In hindsight, coach really got caught in the fire storm that has been many years of terrible football and franchise building.
Facts are, he was the best coach the Giants have had in nearly 7 years. For one, he's the only coach to take his team to the playoffs after Coughlin.
Second, he had multiple players overachieving on his watch. OBJ? Never the same after Mcadoo. Landon Collins, never the same.
Sure his, team had some defensive pieces, but he worked very well with Eli as well. Speeding up his delivery, gaining a more efficient approach given the lack of o line. Would have been interesting to see what he did with Jones.
Oh, and side bar, he was the guy in the room who wanted Mahomes badly. Funny how the grass always seems greener until you actually get a close look at the "other grass." Facts are, right now, Joe Judge is all talk and no action. He stinks.
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they had a terrible offensive roster.
wtf were they supposed to do on offense? they won football games.
why do we try to pretend they did not?
Or a terrible design system where they ran one formation 91% of the time. What was so different about the offense in 2015 than 2016 were you claimed they had a good offense? Only difference was they got rid of Randle and got back Cruz.
ummmm they wanted to win... so they invested in the defense, and tried to win close games... instead of mismanage the clock and play sh$t defense and lose them?
they had a terrible offensive roster.
wtf were they supposed to do on offense? they won football games.
why do we try to pretend they did not?
They had one of the most explosive players in the league. It was virtually the same roster that scored 420 points the prior year. He rode a defense playing out of its mind, and I will acknowledge that he did show prowess at clock management and time outs. But he was the de facto OC, and his O was awful. That wasn't his plan, be serious.
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they had a terrible offensive roster.
wtf were they supposed to do on offense? they won football games.
why do we try to pretend they did not?
Or a terrible design system where they ran one formation 91% of the time. What was so different about the offense in 2015 than 2016 were you claimed they had a good offense? Only difference was they got rid of Randle and got back Cruz.
ummmm they wanted to win... so they invested in the defense, and tried to win close games... instead of mismanage the clock and play sh$t defense and lose them?
So youre saying McAdoo intentionally did worse in 2016 oin offense so the defense could bail them out?
He was given a top 2 defense which means more chances to gain yards and score points and they failed. You want to give credit to McAdoo for the defense being unreal. Go for it. But theres a reason why he is unemployed in the coaching ranks. He was terrible at his job. When he was HC - the offense got WORSE since he took full control of it. ANd if you think Coughlin played no role in the offense as HC, then you dont know Coughlins effect.
Its absolutely hysterical we are sitting here giving credit for McAdoo putting out a shit product as head coach. He was charge of the offense and it was an epic failure.
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they had a terrible offensive roster.
wtf were they supposed to do on offense? they won football games.
why do we try to pretend they did not?
They had one of the most explosive players in the league. It was virtually the same roster that scored 420 points the prior year. He rode a defense playing out of its mind, and I will acknowledge that he did show prowess at clock management and time outs. But he was the de facto OC, and his O was awful. That wasn't his plan, be serious.
Perfectly stated. Saying that our offense was built to win games even though it ranked as a top 5 worst unit in the league is just silly and probably closer to being a "fanboy".
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they had a terrible offensive roster.
wtf were they supposed to do on offense? they won football games.
why do we try to pretend they did not?
Or a terrible design system where they ran one formation 91% of the time. What was so different about the offense in 2015 than 2016 were you claimed they had a good offense? Only difference was they got rid of Randle and got back Cruz.
ummmm they wanted to win... so they invested in the defense, and tried to win close games... instead of mismanage the clock and play sh$t defense and lose them?
So youre saying McAdoo intentionally did worse in 2016 oin offense so the defense could bail them out?
He was given a top 2 defense which means more chances to gain yards and score points and they failed. You want to give credit to McAdoo for the defense being unreal. Go for it. But theres a reason why he is unemployed in the coaching ranks. He was terrible at his job. When he was HC - the offense got WORSE since he took full control of it. ANd if you think Coughlin played no role in the offense as HC, then you dont know Coughlins effect.
Its absolutely hysterical we are sitting here giving credit for McAdoo putting out a shit product as head coach. He was charge of the offense and it was an epic failure.
I know, I must be in the twilight zone. It's not bad enough the team sucks, we have clowns talking up this terrible coach.
Giants fans get scolded here for reminiscing about the TC/Eli days when Super Bowls were being won.
Apparently it is ok to wish for the Ben McAdoo era again!
McAdoo does not have another job coaching in the NFL, so the league was not impressed with the job he did. What he did only looks impressive to Giants fans because the bar has been set so ridiculously low.
we have too many fanboys sad because he benched eli (unclear why this makes people angry trying to evaluate the team was the RIGHT thing to do in 2017). these people would rather pretend 2016 didnt happen.
have said this for years... 2016 happened, it was acutally a great season to watch, close hard fought games, a great defense, explosive plays on offense, and good coaching.
anyhow... who the fk cares its 2021 and we still suck because we decided to fix the 2017 eli situation by putting more pieces around an old shell of eli to make that last run!!!! great job guys!!!!
The problem is and was Mara. Who isn't going anywhere.
And McAdoo sucked. His teams didn't overachieve. Spags took them to that playoff game.
I don't think Geno was the downgrade that most fans want to suggest.
Show me what was worse about Geno's performance in that game vs. any single game of Eli's that season.
McAdoo's point was clear, and proven to anyone with a brain: Eli is finished, and even a journeyman like Geno Smith can equal his production.
And he was right.
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He was a terrible coach to the exact same extent that you're an intelligent poster.
He got caught in the crossfire of Britt-level whiners who wet their pants when Eli benched himself. We'll just leave it at that.
Is that why 4 years later, the best he can do is offensive consultant? One would think that some enterprising team would hire this offensive wunderkind.
Tom Coughlin is one of the greatest coaches in this franchise's history. Who has hired him as a coach since he was fired?
I guess we should consider that TC was a bum?
Obviously that's not accurate, but it's effectively the case you're trying to make.
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you notice all the teams beating a path to Ben's door.
He was a terrible hire and a terrible coach. He floated for one year off Eli Manning, a huge free agent spend and the remnants on the team of TC's discipline and work ethic. McCarthy took him apart like a dollar watch in the playoffs and the wheels totally came off the following season.
F Ben McAdoodo
F DannyDimes.
Beat it, troll.
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He was a terrible coach to the exact same extent that you're an intelligent poster.
He got caught in the crossfire of Britt-level whiners who wet their pants when Eli benched himself. We'll just leave it at that.
Is that why 4 years later, the best he can do is offensive consultant? One would think that some enterprising team would hire this offensive wunderkind.
Tom Coughlin is one of the greatest coaches in this franchise's history. Who has hired him as a coach since he was fired?
I guess we should consider that TC was a bum?
Obviously that's not accurate, but it's effectively the case you're trying to make.
he was 70. And he was hired, but as President of Football Operations, which was foolish, since TC the GM basically cost TC the coach his job in JAX.
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you notice all the teams beating a path to Ben's door.
He was a terrible hire and a terrible coach. He floated for one year off Eli Manning, a huge free agent spend and the remnants on the team of TC's discipline and work ethic. McCarthy took him apart like a dollar watch in the playoffs and the wheels totally came off the following season.
He was a terrible coach to the exact same extent that you're an intelligent poster.
He got caught in the crossfire of Britt-level whiners who wet their pants when Eli benched himself. We'll just leave it at that.
Yea, that was definitely what got him fired! Not his total train wreck of a second year as head coach.
One of the wet pants posters chiming in, fun!
It's amazing to me how fucking stupid you are given how smart you try to come off.
Hey, keep pounding the Ben McAdoo drum if you want. He's available to coach anyone's team tomorrow if they want!
It's remarkable that you can even type posts with your Eli action figure in your mouth, dripping on your keyboard.
The idea that you think you possess even a shred of credibility is cute.
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He was a terrible coach to the exact same extent that you're an intelligent poster.
He got caught in the crossfire of Britt-level whiners who wet their pants when Eli benched himself. We'll just leave it at that.
Is that why 4 years later, the best he can do is offensive consultant? One would think that some enterprising team would hire this offensive wunderkind.
Tom Coughlin is one of the greatest coaches in this franchise's history. Who has hired him as a coach since he was fired?
I guess we should consider that TC was a bum?
Obviously that's not accurate, but it's effectively the case you're trying to make.
he was 70. And he was hired, but as President of Football Operations, which was foolish, since TC the GM basically cost TC the coach his job in JAX.
That's a completely fair point. But he was initially trying to pursue HC opportunities and found no takers. Jacksonville saw a marketing opportunity and chased it, but obviously that didn't go especially well either.
Speaking of which, maybe TC had some input into Reese's personnel decisions and that was reflected in TC's own personnel decisions with Jax?
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you notice all the teams beating a path to Ben's door.
He was a terrible hire and a terrible coach. He floated for one year off Eli Manning, a huge free agent spend and the remnants on the team of TC's discipline and work ethic. McCarthy took him apart like a dollar watch in the playoffs and the wheels totally came off the following season.
He was a terrible coach to the exact same extent that you're an intelligent poster.
He got caught in the crossfire of Britt-level whiners who wet their pants when Eli benched himself. We'll just leave it at that.
Yea, that was definitely what got him fired! Not his total train wreck of a second year as head coach.
One of the wet pants posters chiming in, fun!
It's amazing to me how fucking stupid you are given how smart you try to come off.
Hey, keep pounding the Ben McAdoo drum if you want. He's available to coach anyone's team tomorrow if they want!
It's remarkable that you can even type posts with your Eli action figure in your mouth, dripping on your keyboard.
The idea that you think you possess even a shred of credibility is cute.
Credibility with who? You? Lol.
You're criticizing my fandom of Eli Manning while you prop up Ben McAdoo and I lack credibility? Ok then!
I'll take the 2 Super Bowls. You can have the 1 playoff season with ultimate drubbing at the hands of Green Bay and overall 2 seasons of losing combined.
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Geno Smith was an upgrade showed he didnt have the true eye on QB play.
I don't think Geno was the downgrade that most fans want to suggest.
Show me what was worse about Geno's performance in that game vs. any single game of Eli's that season.
McAdoo's point was clear, and proven to anyone with a brain: Eli is finished, and even a journeyman like Geno Smith can equal his production.
And he was right.
See I will strongly disagree the notion that Geno was the best option to start. It was Webb because we needed to see what we had in him. Smith is/was what he always is - a below average guy who was turnover prone. He had two fumbles - one inside the Raiders 5. He was never going to be the next guy on the list.
Webb at least was a rookie and could have gotten some game action. There wasnt a thing Geno did or didnt do that put him above or below Eli as far as performance wise.
But did anyone truly believe that Geno Smith was going to upstart the offense and become a better team?
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He was a terrible coach to the exact same extent that you're an intelligent poster.
He got caught in the crossfire of Britt-level whiners who wet their pants when Eli benched himself. We'll just leave it at that.
Is that why 4 years later, the best he can do is offensive consultant? One would think that some enterprising team would hire this offensive wunderkind.
Tom Coughlin is one of the greatest coaches in this franchise's history. Who has hired him as a coach since he was fired?
I guess we should consider that TC was a bum?
Obviously that's not accurate, but it's effectively the case you're trying to make.
he was 70. And he was hired, but as President of Football Operations, which was foolish, since TC the GM basically cost TC the coach his job in JAX.
That's a completely fair point. But he was initially trying to pursue HC opportunities and found no takers. Jacksonville saw a marketing opportunity and chased it, but obviously that didn't go especially well either.
Speaking of which, maybe TC had some input into Reese's personnel decisions and that was reflected in TC's own personnel decisions with Jax?
to the first part, who wants a 70 yr old HC to start a rebuild? Not me. I wasn't surprised he didn't get a HC job.
to the second, I don't know. Under GY, the roles were clearly defined. I don't know if that was wearing down under Reese/Coughlin.
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He was a terrible coach to the exact same extent that you're an intelligent poster.
He got caught in the crossfire of Britt-level whiners who wet their pants when Eli benched himself. We'll just leave it at that.
Is that why 4 years later, the best he can do is offensive consultant? One would think that some enterprising team would hire this offensive wunderkind.
Tom Coughlin is one of the greatest coaches in this franchise's history. Who has hired him as a coach since he was fired?
I guess we should consider that TC was a bum?
Obviously that's not accurate, but it's effectively the case you're trying to make.
You can't be serious. Tom was 70 years old, and in case you don't recall, was hired as Pres of Ops for Jacksonville.
Speaking of which, maybe TC had some input into Reese's personnel decisions and that was reflected in TC's own personnel decisions with Jax?
I totally agree with this. Many of the same posters who gave TC credit for better talent acquisition after he was hired still blamed Reese when the level of talent dropped off. Either he had a say in the room or he didn't.
And hasn’t been employed in the NFL as any kind of coach since.
Tells you all you need to know right there. Yet, people will hold onto the, “But he wanted Mahomes!” narrative like he’s some sort of misjudged savant. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Ben McAdoo fucking sucked. Period. End of story.
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He was hard headed and tone deaf
And hasn’t been employed in the NFL as any kind of coach since.
Tells you all you need to know right there. Yet, people will hold onto the, “But he wanted Mahomes!” narrative like he’s some sort of misjudged savant. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Ben McAdoo fucking sucked. Period. End of story.
McAdoo's legacy is smeared because of Giants fans who got their tampons in a twist when Eli benched himself and blamed it on Ben while John Mara was at the owners' meeting.
He was imperfect in so many ways, but he's still the best coach we've had since Coughlin's prime, and he was better than Coughlin's descent years.
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He was hard headed and tone deaf
And hasn’t been employed in the NFL as any kind of coach since.
Tells you all you need to know right there. Yet, people will hold onto the, “But he wanted Mahomes!” narrative like he’s some sort of misjudged savant. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Ben McAdoo fucking sucked. Period. End of story.
Coughlin hasn't been hired as a coach since he "retired" either. Nor was Gilbride. Spags had one more good run, and - shocker - his defense sucks again, because he sucks - it takes a really bad DC to oversee the majority of the worst defenses the NFL has ever seen, and somehow Spags has accomplished that.
McAdoo was not the problem. He may have been symptomatic, but he wasn't causal. He was a better coach than we've had in close to a decade.
You're still here?
He may not have been the right hire, but had the front office listened to McAdoo, and cut ties with Eli sooner, we might be in a much different and better situation at QB.
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He was hard headed and tone deaf
And hasn’t been employed in the NFL as any kind of coach since.
Tells you all you need to know right there. Yet, people will hold onto the, “But he wanted Mahomes!” narrative like he’s some sort of misjudged savant. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Ben McAdoo fucking sucked. Period. End of story.
McAdoo's legacy is smeared because of Giants fans who got their tampons in a twist when Eli benched himself and blamed it on Ben while John Mara was at the owners' meeting.
He was imperfect in so many ways, but he's still the best coach we've had since Coughlin's prime, and he was better than Coughlin's descent years.
Wait, what?
His legacy, which without the Eli benching, amounts to what exactly? A one-year playoff wonder (got their asses handed to them by the way) with a stacked defense after a spending spree, followed by an encore on par with the sinking of the Titanic?
That's some legacy!
McAdoo isn't a shit stain on Coughlin's underwear. Shurmur was a shitty coach too but at least Shurmur wasn't a dickhead with a new haircut who thought he was hot shit.
Ben McAdoo. Lol. I definitely didn't think I'd be reading stuff like this on here today.
Is this directed at me?
If so, you are tangled up and making dubious assumptions...
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He was hard headed and tone deaf
And hasn’t been employed in the NFL as any kind of coach since.
Tells you all you need to know right there. Yet, people will hold onto the, “But he wanted Mahomes!” narrative like he’s some sort of misjudged savant. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Ben McAdoo fucking sucked. Period. End of story.
McAdoo's legacy is smeared because of Giants fans who got their tampons in a twist when Eli benched himself and blamed it on Ben while John Mara was at the owners' meeting.
He was imperfect in so many ways, but he's still the best coach we've had since Coughlin's prime, and he was better than Coughlin's descent years.
Wait, what?
His legacy, which without the Eli benching, amounts to what exactly? A one-year playoff wonder (got their asses handed to them by the way) with a stacked defense after a spending spree, followed by an encore on par with the sinking of the Titanic?
That's some legacy!
McAdoo isn't a shit stain on Coughlin's underwear. Shurmur was a shitty coach too but at least Shurmur wasn't a dickhead with a new haircut who thought he was hot shit.
Ben McAdoo. Lol. I definitely didn't think I'd be reading stuff like this on here today.
See above about tampons in a twist.
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He was hard headed and tone deaf
And hasn’t been employed in the NFL as any kind of coach since.
Tells you all you need to know right there. Yet, people will hold onto the, “But he wanted Mahomes!” narrative like he’s some sort of misjudged savant. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Ben McAdoo fucking sucked. Period. End of story.
McAdoo's legacy is smeared because of Giants fans who got their tampons in a twist when Eli benched himself and blamed it on Ben while John Mara was at the owners' meeting.
He was imperfect in so many ways, but he's still the best coach we've had since Coughlin's prime, and he was better than Coughlin's descent years.
Wait, what?
His legacy, which without the Eli benching, amounts to what exactly? A one-year playoff wonder (got their asses handed to them by the way) with a stacked defense after a spending spree, followed by an encore on par with the sinking of the Titanic?
That's some legacy!
McAdoo isn't a shit stain on Coughlin's underwear. Shurmur was a shitty coach too but at least Shurmur wasn't a dickhead with a new haircut who thought he was hot shit.
Ben McAdoo. Lol. I definitely didn't think I'd be reading stuff like this on here today.
See above about tampons in a twist.
Right, because there's no point left for you to make because you're a fool.
Call me a cheerleader all you want. At least it's in reference to people who actually matter for this franchise.
You are on a thread propping up Ben McAdoo lol. Who is the idiot here?
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He was hard headed and tone deaf
And hasn’t been employed in the NFL as any kind of coach since.
Tells you all you need to know right there. Yet, people will hold onto the, “But he wanted Mahomes!” narrative like he’s some sort of misjudged savant. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Ben McAdoo fucking sucked. Period. End of story.
McAdoo's legacy is smeared because of Giants fans who got their tampons in a twist when Eli benched himself and blamed it on Ben while John Mara was at the owners' meeting.
He was imperfect in so many ways, but he's still the best coach we've had since Coughlin's prime, and he was better than Coughlin's descent years.
Wait, what?
His legacy, which without the Eli benching, amounts to what exactly? A one-year playoff wonder (got their asses handed to them by the way) with a stacked defense after a spending spree, followed by an encore on par with the sinking of the Titanic?
That's some legacy!
McAdoo isn't a shit stain on Coughlin's underwear. Shurmur was a shitty coach too but at least Shurmur wasn't a dickhead with a new haircut who thought he was hot shit.
Ben McAdoo. Lol. I definitely didn't think I'd be reading stuff like this on here today.
Have no NFL teams reached the playoffs after a FA spend? Have those coaches somehow been burdened by that spend?
Let me help you answer, because I don't trust your intelligence to sort this out: several NFL teams have benefited over the years from a free agency spree like the Giants had in 2016, and the coach and front office deserve credit for that.
Sometimes, teams go on a spending spree and still turn out to be shitty. And the coach and front office deserve blame for that.
Do you want to perform the comparison in spend between 2016 and 2021, or should I?
It's probably going to fall onto me to do it, because I don't get the sense that you can handle the math.
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He was hard headed and tone deaf
And hasn’t been employed in the NFL as any kind of coach since.
Tells you all you need to know right there. Yet, people will hold onto the, “But he wanted Mahomes!” narrative like he’s some sort of misjudged savant. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Ben McAdoo fucking sucked. Period. End of story.
McAdoo's legacy is smeared because of Giants fans who got their tampons in a twist when Eli benched himself and blamed it on Ben while John Mara was at the owners' meeting.
He was imperfect in so many ways, but he's still the best coach we've had since Coughlin's prime, and he was better than Coughlin's descent years.
Wait, what?
His legacy, which without the Eli benching, amounts to what exactly? A one-year playoff wonder (got their asses handed to them by the way) with a stacked defense after a spending spree, followed by an encore on par with the sinking of the Titanic?
That's some legacy!
McAdoo isn't a shit stain on Coughlin's underwear. Shurmur was a shitty coach too but at least Shurmur wasn't a dickhead with a new haircut who thought he was hot shit.
Ben McAdoo. Lol. I definitely didn't think I'd be reading stuff like this on here today.
Have no NFL teams reached the playoffs after a FA spend? Have those coaches somehow been burdened by that spend?
Let me help you answer, because I don't trust your intelligence to sort this out: several NFL teams have benefited over the years from a free agency spree like the Giants had in 2016, and the coach and front office deserve credit for that.
Sometimes, teams go on a spending spree and still turn out to be shitty. And the coach and front office deserve blame for that.
Do you want to perform the comparison in spend between 2016 and 2021, or should I?
It's probably going to fall onto me to do it, because I don't get the sense that you can handle the math.
Yes, we know. Because you're very smart! You're so smart you're arguing the case for Ben McAdoo.
You're like those guys from the old Guinness commercials. Brilliant!
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He was hard headed and tone deaf
And hasn’t been employed in the NFL as any kind of coach since.
Tells you all you need to know right there. Yet, people will hold onto the, “But he wanted Mahomes!” narrative like he’s some sort of misjudged savant. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Ben McAdoo fucking sucked. Period. End of story.
McAdoo's legacy is smeared because of Giants fans who got their tampons in a twist when Eli benched himself and blamed it on Ben while John Mara was at the owners' meeting.
He was imperfect in so many ways, but he's still the best coach we've had since Coughlin's prime, and he was better than Coughlin's descent years.
Wait, what?
His legacy, which without the Eli benching, amounts to what exactly? A one-year playoff wonder (got their asses handed to them by the way) with a stacked defense after a spending spree, followed by an encore on par with the sinking of the Titanic?
That's some legacy!
McAdoo isn't a shit stain on Coughlin's underwear. Shurmur was a shitty coach too but at least Shurmur wasn't a dickhead with a new haircut who thought he was hot shit.
Ben McAdoo. Lol. I definitely didn't think I'd be reading stuff like this on here today.
Have no NFL teams reached the playoffs after a FA spend? Have those coaches somehow been burdened by that spend?
Let me help you answer, because I don't trust your intelligence to sort this out: several NFL teams have benefited over the years from a free agency spree like the Giants had in 2016, and the coach and front office deserve credit for that.
Sometimes, teams go on a spending spree and still turn out to be shitty. And the coach and front office deserve blame for that.
Do you want to perform the comparison in spend between 2016 and 2021, or should I?
It's probably going to fall onto me to do it, because I don't get the sense that you can handle the math.
Yes, we know. Because you're very smart! You're so smart you're arguing the case for Ben McAdoo.
You're like those guys from the old Guinness commercials. Brilliant!
This is a cute way for you to avoid doing any sort of analysis while you have your Eli action figure positioned in a way that makes in uncomfortable for you to sit.
But let's give it a spin. Do some work. Or STFU.
Well that went pretty well!
I remember we were playing the Packers and prior to the game, they interviewed Rodgers and asked him about McAdoo. Rodgers said " he is a funny guy".
The only positive regarding McAdoo is that he wanted to draft Mahommes.
Meanwhile, Ben is not coaching anywhere in the league right now. Not even as an assistant.
Meanwhile, Ben is not coaching anywhere in the league right now. Not even as an assistant.
He was QB coach for jacksonville last season, and is a "consultant" for Dallas.
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you notice all the teams beating a path to Ben's door.
He was a terrible hire and a terrible coach. He floated for one year off Eli Manning, a huge free agent spend and the remnants on the team of TC's discipline and work ethic. McCarthy took him apart like a dollar watch in the playoffs and the wheels totally came off the following season.
He was a terrible coach to the exact same extent that you're an intelligent poster.
He got caught in the crossfire of Britt-level whiners who wet their pants when Eli benched himself. We'll just leave it at that.
Yea, that was definitely what got him fired! Not his total train wreck of a second year as head coach.
One of the wet pants posters chiming in, fun!
It's amazing to me how fucking stupid you are given how smart you try to come off.
Hey, keep pounding the Ben McAdoo drum if you want. He's available to coach anyone's team tomorrow if they want!
No one pounding the Mcadoo drum. Simply noting that all that matters is W's. That's it. He had more in one rookie year than almost all the years thereafter. Judge is all talk.
Wrong. Mcadoo was the only guy in the room ready and willing to move on from Eli. And it was the right move. Now, starting Geno was a joke. But overall, it was time. We ended up extending the time a few years and missed out on massive QB talents. Massive
newsflash: Just because Reese and McAdoo were bad at the end, doesn't mean you need to tell yourself they were worse than what we have now to placate yourself about the current situation.
Outside of Dak coming back? Lol
That 2016 was loaded with talent and the 2015 offense, with virtually the same personnel, scored 427 pts. The 2016 team scored barely over 300. I shudder to think what that team was capable of if COughlin coached it. The last time Coughln had a team that was remotely talented was 2011-2012. 20 wins. 14-15 teams were comically thin on defense and the offense was basically Eli and Beckham and pray for rain, yet they scored pts. I wonder why.