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Basic Truths... Run the Ball, Stop the Run, Rush the Passer

GiantsRage2007 : 10/18/2021 11:30 am
"There are basic truths— you have to run the ball, you have to stop the run, you have to rush the passer. If you are seriously deficient in any one of those three areas, it makes it tough. It's going to be tough sledding."

-Dave Gettleman



Well, I guess this is the tough sledding part huh?

Man, we don't do any of these. And haven't in years.
He’s wrong on that too  
Saos1n : 10/18/2021 11:33 am : link
He needs to go
All talk  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/18/2021 11:34 am : link
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RE: He’s wrong on that too  
family progtitioner : 10/18/2021 11:39 am : link
In comment 15419415 Saos1n said:
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He needs to go


I agree with 2 of the 3. The other led to the SB pick, a completely blown #2 in the whole draft pick
2 truths in the NFL today  
mphbullet36 : 10/18/2021 11:40 am : link
Be able to pass the ball and be able to get after the QB.

Building a team to run the ball is stupid and being able to stop the run is pretty useless as well.

You can't even play physical in the secondary so spending a ton of money on a secondary is becoming useless as well (we did that).

QB/OL/DL (especially edge) is how you build your team and invest draft capital/$$$...everything else can be found.
He is correct  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/18/2021 11:47 am : link
and four years in the Giants are not able to do that. That is what he should be evaluated on.

Look at your better teams in the league and those that go on to the playoffs and win championships. Those that can't get exposed at some point with rare exceptions.
You have to  
Saos1n : 10/18/2021 11:48 am : link
1. Protect your QB
2. Pressure the opposing QB
3. Stretch the field
Regardless of the philosophy,  
Joe Beckwith : 10/18/2021 12:03 pm : link
you’ve got to obtain players that make it work. And coach em up.
In that regard, it’s been:
Fail.
Fail.
Fail.
Respectively.

Basic Truths...  
Jimmy Googs : 10/18/2021 12:06 pm : link
1. Hire guys that know how to evaluate talent
2. Develop a cohesive plan to build out a winning roster
3. If don't win, then repeat 1 & 2 above until you win


welcome to 1985  
Enzo : 10/18/2021 12:10 pm : link
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christian : 10/18/2021 12:15 pm : link
I don’t particularly believe in that philosophy — but if one does — at least go and try to do that.
I still believe that is mostly true today  
rasbutant : 10/18/2021 4:05 pm : link
but obviously it doesn't stop there.

1. QB play
2. OLine - Run the ball and protect QB, it's a passing league, but what separates good teams from bad is the ability to run the ball when it is needed. Pick up that 3rd or 4th and short, to run the clock out at the end of the game, also running the ball opens up the passing game.
3. Set edge and pressure the passer
4. CB's that can cover
5. MLB that is sideline to sideline ability
I'm not saying he's wrong or right  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/18/2021 4:05 pm : link
(but I'll agree with rushing the passer part and success in the red zone is all about rushing the ball imo)

But, if you preach this when you are hired and are totally failing on all 3, then ???
RE: RE: He’s wrong on that too  
Bill in UT : 10/18/2021 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15419430 family progtitioner said:
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In comment 15419415 Saos1n said:


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He needs to go



I agree with 2 of the 3. The other led to the SB pick, a completely blown #2 in the whole draft pick


I don't agree that the 3rd one had to lead to SB. It should lead to building an OL that is good enough that you can plug in any decent RB and he'll do well.
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