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Charlotte Observer article when Gettleman was fired

ajr2456 : 10/18/2021 1:31 pm
Foretold everything

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Observer learned that Gettleman’s brusque management style – which had made him unpopular with some Carolina players from his earliest days as GM – had begun to wear thin throughout the organization.

Some staffers also didn’t like how Gettleman reshaped the roster following the 2015 Super Bowl season, leaving yawning gaps in the secondary and along the offensive line that were exposed during a 6-10 campaign last year.


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Derrick Fox, agent for former Panthers wide receiver Steve Smith, said he believes the 25 years Gettleman spent as a scout – the last 14 with the Giants – did little to improve his interpersonal skills required to be a successful GM. And I think his lack of interaction with agents in the Giants organization wasn’t well-suited for taking on the general manager role


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Gettleman’s future is unclear. At 66, it’s unlikely he’ll get another GM job in the NFL, but he would be well qualified for a scouting or consultant role.


Gettleman - ( New Window )
Yet of course we hired him.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/18/2021 1:32 pm : link
Thanks EA!
This quote:  
jvm52106 : 10/18/2021 1:35 pm : link
Gettleman’s future is unclear. At 66, it’s unlikely he’ll get another GM job in the NFL, but he would be well qualified for a scouting or consultant role.

Led the Giants to go hold that thought, he is coming with us!

This is the one decision that killed all others. DG is out of touch and completely stuck in a time that no longer exists in the NFL.
This is old news  
BigBlueJ : 10/18/2021 1:38 pm : link
That is why so many folks here and in the media was skeptical of this whole hire. That is why his first few press conferences were so confrontational, like he was going to prove everyone wrong. We cannot over come bad ownership, we are in serious trouble based on Mara's leadership decisions.
Not only did the Giants hire him,  
Metnut : 10/18/2021 1:42 pm : link
but they refused to interview any other serious candidates and rushed into hiring him as soon as possible. Unreal.
RE: This quote:  
Justlurking : 10/18/2021 1:45 pm : link
In comment 15419746 jvm52106 said:
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Gettleman’s future is unclear. At 66, it’s unlikely he’ll get another GM job in the NFL, but he would be well qualified for a scouting or consultant role.

Led the Giants to go hold that thought, he is coming with us!

This is the one decision that killed all others. DG is out of touch and completely stuck in a time that no longer exists in the NFL.


The bigger issue is that the entire franchise is stuck there as well. DG must go but the entire organization needs a tear down.
RE: Not only did the Giants hire him,  
BigBlueJ : 10/18/2021 1:45 pm : link
In comment 15419756 Metnut said:
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but they refused to interview any other serious candidates and rushed into hiring him as soon as possible. Unreal.


Yup supposedly Ernie was consulted to scour the earth. And with the fake out they went with the crony hire.
RE: Yet of course we hired him.  
Jints in Carolina : 10/18/2021 1:47 pm : link
In comment 15419739 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Thanks EA!


It was an exhausting search!
I think Dave would be fine handling scouting duties.  
MOOPS : 10/18/2021 2:00 pm : link
I think  
Big Al : 10/18/2021 2:08 pm : link
at 70, retirement would be fine. I would guess he does not need to work to make ends meet.
This information was widely available when they hired him  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/18/2021 2:11 pm : link
and all anybody wanted to say was "he got to a super bowl in 2015".

No one wanted to hear why, or what players he was responsible for, or why he was fired.

At least one person flat out waved off any criticism and placed it all on the Carolina owner.
DG has been given more than enough time to develop a winner  
Giants61 : 10/18/2021 2:17 pm : link
with the Giants. He should be let go now. the problem is John Mara does not have the courage nor the wisdom to do the right things that will produce a winner
RE: Not only did the Giants hire him,  
rsjem1979 : 10/18/2021 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15419756 Metnut said:
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but they refused to interview any other serious candidates and rushed into hiring him as soon as possible. Unreal.


There isn't another franchise in the NFL that would have even interviewed Gettleman to be their GM, while the Giants didn't even bother with a serious search before hiring him.
Accorsi giveth  
JonC : 10/18/2021 2:31 pm : link
and he surely taketh away.
Ooof, if this line isn't depressing as hell:  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/18/2021 2:33 pm : link
Gettleman’s future is unclear. At 66, it’s unlikely he’ll get another GM job in the NFL, but he would be well qualified for a scouting or consultant role.
RE: This information was widely available when they hired him  
Greg from LI : 10/18/2021 2:36 pm : link
In comment 15419834 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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and all anybody wanted to say was "he got to a super bowl in 2015".

No one wanted to hear why, or what players he was responsible for, or why he was fired.

At least one person flat out waved off any criticism and placed it all on the Carolina owner.


And his supporters would get very angry when it was pointed out that virtually all of Carolina's top players from that 2015 SB team were acquired by Marty Hurney and inherited by Gettleman. They really didn't want to let go of stating "He built a Super Bowl team in Carolina!"
Yup  
Les in TO : 10/18/2021 2:40 pm : link
Just like Mike Holmgren was very public about Shurmur’s shortcomings which Mara either ignored or rationalized. Some people are best placed in supporting roles like scout or coordinator. You need a different skill set to be a GM or Head Coach.
RE: RE: Not only did the Giants hire him,  
crick n NC : 10/18/2021 2:45 pm : link
In comment 15419868 rsjem1979 said:
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In comment 15419756 Metnut said:


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but they refused to interview any other serious candidates and rushed into hiring him as soon as possible. Unreal.



There isn't another franchise in the NFL that would have even interviewed Gettleman to be their GM, while the Giants didn't even bother with a serious search before hiring him.


Rsjem. My apologies for earlier man.
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What's weird is he had a rep for cutting washed up old vets to save $  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/18/2021 2:49 pm : link
... and then he comes here and consistently signs a bunch of washed up old vets.
I said from the start that he seemed smart  
NoGainDayne : 10/18/2021 2:50 pm : link
but his attitude was highly concerning especially as it related to our ability to innovate.

People acted like this was crazy...
RE: What's weird is he had a rep for cutting washed up old vets to save $  
JonC : 10/18/2021 2:52 pm : link
In comment 15419909 sb from NYT Forum said:
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... and then he comes here and consistently signs a bunch of washed up old vets.


It's called job saving mode, for many people.
RE: RE: This information was widely available when they hired him  
FStubbs : 10/18/2021 3:30 pm : link
In comment 15419878 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 15419834 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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and all anybody wanted to say was "he got to a super bowl in 2015".

No one wanted to hear why, or what players he was responsible for, or why he was fired.

At least one person flat out waved off any criticism and placed it all on the Carolina owner.



And his supporters would get very angry when it was pointed out that virtually all of Carolina's top players from that 2015 SB team were acquired by Marty Hurney and inherited by Gettleman. They really didn't want to let go of stating "He built a Super Bowl team in Carolina!"


But yet they're quick to say EA built Reese's Superbowl teams.
RE: Yup  
Greg from LI : 10/18/2021 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15419887 Les in TO said:
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Just like Mike Holmgren was very public about Shurmur’s shortcomings which Mara either ignored or rationalized. Some people are best placed in supporting roles like scout or coordinator. You need a different skill set to be a GM or Head Coach.


Hell, Jerry Reese did tremendous work when he was director of personnel. As a GM....not so much.
I really knew nothing about DG when he was hired...  
GMen72 : 10/18/2021 3:56 pm : link
but his first press conference was the silliest thing I've ever seen. When any man in sports (and life) needs to tell everyone how great they are...even they know they suck! DG is as insecure as a man as they come...and he sucks as a GM. Perfect combo!
RE: What's weird is he had a rep for cutting washed up old vets to save $  
Section331 : 10/18/2021 4:00 pm : link
In comment 15419909 sb from NYT Forum said:
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... and then he comes here and consistently signs a bunch of washed up old vets.


I'm glad you brought this up. I hated the hire because it was just another example of doing things the "Giant Way" when that way had failed for 7 years running. The one bright side was I liked that DG set a price on his vets on didn't budge off of it. Then he comes here and overpays everybody.
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