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CBS Sports: First Round Mock Draft (10/18/2021)

M.S. : 10/18/2021 1:44 pm

By Ryan Wilson

Only 192 days to the 2022 NFL Draft, and it can't come soon enough. The Giants have been hooked, fried and eaten, and the only thing left is for the scavengers to pick over the bones.

The good news -- this Mock Draft has the Giants selecting #5 (their own pick) and #10 (Chicago's). The latter seems just about right. But there's no way in hell the Giants are picking #5 (unless their strength of schedule works against them.) This team has the look of one that will have the #1 overall pick and no lower than 2.

At #5 the Giants take Derek Stingley Jr. (CB LSU). Given he underwent a foot "procedure" and has missed several games, he seems like a perfect fit for these injury-riddled Giants. As for the argument that the Giants have already devoted a ton of draft and free agent resources to their secondary... oh, well. Embrace the suck.

At #10 the Giants select Kenyon Green (OL Texas A& M). I like the player at a position of tremendous need. I just hope we get him into a locker room that's been swept clean of as many current players as possible.

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He's 6'2"  
SirLoinOfBeef : 10/18/2021 2:48 pm : link
How is that undersized?

Dak Prescott is the same height. Corral can put some weight on.
What a shitty looking draft  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/18/2021 2:52 pm : link
Talent is not there yet
RE: He's 6'2  
GNewGiants : 10/18/2021 2:53 pm : link
In comment 15419907 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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How is that undersized?

Dak Prescott is the same height. Corral can put some weight on.


Heights are some times exaggerated
RE: RE: Passing on Corral twice...  
jeff57 : 10/18/2021 2:55 pm : link
In comment 15419819 GNewGiants said:
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Forcing a pick on QB is how we got Jones in the first place.

I like Corral, but he is undersized and there are holes in his game.


Agree.
I don’t have a complete mock yet. But…  
trueblueinpw : 10/18/2021 2:57 pm : link
I think the Jets finish the season with the first overall and Giants second overall.

Jets trade their first to either Philly or WFT who then select the QB1 that our new GM Kevin Abrams had been telegraphing. KA is completely prepared though and instead drafts a young right wing prospect from Medicine Hat.
RE: From what I've been hearing, Green isn't even having a good  
Angel Eyes : 10/18/2021 3:00 pm : link
In comment 15419816 barens said:
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season. So of course, nearly everyone has him going to the Giants.

Heard a bit about Green; analysts say he's been playing out of position as a guard having to play tackle.
RE: GoTerps  
Go Terps : 10/18/2021 3:03 pm : link
In comment 15419876 TommytheElephant said:
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Who do you prefer ? Corral or Willis?


I've seen a bit more of Corral than Willis. At this point I'd say Corral but I definitely want to see more of both before definitively favoring one or the other.

At this point I just think it's important to abandon the thought that picking a quarterback is forcing the pick.
RE: RE: ....  
BrettNYG10 : 10/18/2021 3:08 pm : link
In comment 15419882 KDavies said:
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I don't remember Burrow or Murray as highly ranked QBs going into their draft years (maybe I'm wrong on this). It's too early to say it's a bad QB year.



Burrow wasn't as heralded. He exploded his last year in college. Murray was highly regarded, but was just behind Mayfield.


Thanks.
The Jaguars and Jets are still probably worse  
BestFeature : 10/18/2021 3:09 pm : link
So I don't see this top 2 pick thing being reality. If we were healthy those two teams would be a lot worse, which doesn't say much.
Every prospect has holes in their game  
ajr2456 : 10/18/2021 3:10 pm : link
Corral is good. Taking him in the first wouldn’t be a force
Also, this guy sounds like a trolling fan  
BestFeature : 10/18/2021 3:11 pm : link
The guy was injured so he'll be a good fit because the Giants are injury riddled, "embrace the suck". Any idiot can write anything nowadays. What an unprofessional loser.
RE: The Jaguars and Jets are still probably worse  
KDavies : 10/18/2021 3:12 pm : link
In comment 15419953 BestFeature said:
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So I don't see this top 2 pick thing being reality. If we were healthy those two teams would be a lot worse, which doesn't say much.


Lions may be worst of all. 0-6, and probably won't win a game in that division. Dolphins and Texans are real bad as well. Really a 6 team race.
So, Terps,  
Angel Eyes : 10/18/2021 3:14 pm : link
how much faith do you have in Carter, Ximines, and Ojulari to make things happen on defense and get Corral the ball?
Another investment in corner...  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 3:27 pm : link
Great. When was the last time Stingley was actually really good? Three years go? Stay away.

Lots of good OLs, LBs and a few good QBs to consider this year...
Why  
Toth029 : 10/18/2021 3:32 pm : link
Invest the #10 overall on Corral when they can just sign Marcus Mariota. :-)

OL and pass rush the way I'd go. Two h use massive problems in this current situation.
Ugh  
JonC : 10/18/2021 3:33 pm : link
the top 2 edge prospects gone in the top 4, that's my fear.

They should be able to get a top OL prospect.

I know Terps love Corral, but I'm not seeing it with him yet.
RE: Ugh  
KDavies : 10/18/2021 3:37 pm : link
In comment 15420004 JonC said:
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the top 2 edge prospects gone in the top 4, that's my fear.

They should be able to get a top OL prospect.

I know Terps love Corral, but I'm not seeing it with him yet.


I find it hard to take a mock seriously that has no QB taken until 11. Chances are if the Lions/Texans are picking in the top 3, there will be at least 1 QB taken.
RE: RE: God damn it  
k2tampa : 10/18/2021 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15419846 GNewGiants said:
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Picking Corral isn't forcing a pick. People keep saying that. He's a top Heisman candidate on the #12 team in the country in the SEC.

This particular mock has WFT picking him at #11. "Forcing the pick" makes it sound like picking him at #10 is absurd.

Jones was a forced pick because he wasn't a first round talent, but was picked at #6 anyway because the idiots in the front office thought he'd be Eli Manning. THAT is forcing a pick.

Corral is currently one of the best players in college football. No comparison to the Jones situation whatsoever.



I dont want to argue with you because like I said I do like the player, but by your standards.... Time Tebow should have been the number 1 pick since he was one of the best college players on and a heisman winner on the number 1 team in the nation.

I get the attraction, I do. And I am ready to move on from Jones as well. But Id like to see what he measures in at and his 40 time. We have to nail the next QB. If he measures at 6'0 and 190 and runs a 4.85 - that could be really problamtic. Plus he will be 23 in a few months - he should be dominating college football. He is old by their standards.


Not just Tebow. Danny Wuerffel was a Heisman winner on an SEC team that won the National Championship in 1996. Gino Torretta won the Heisman while playing QB for the Hurricanes National Championship team. All fantastic NFL QBs. Mariota won the Heisman, Manziel won the Heisman. Winston won the Heisman. Bradford won the Heisman. Smith, Leinart, White, Weinke. Ward, Detmer, Ware. Being a Heisman winner, much less top candidate, is hardly indicative of being a standout pro QB.
RE: Ugh  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15420004 JonC said:
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the top 2 edge prospects gone in the top 4, that's my fear.

They should be able to get a top OL prospect.

I know Terps love Corral, but I'm not seeing it with him yet.


You're buying the Hutchinson hype?

The most underrated pass rusher in this draft is Nick Bonnitto of Oklahoma. He's going to be terrific and I suspect he'll start to quietly climb up draft boards...
RE: I don’t have a complete mock yet. But…  
k2tampa : 10/18/2021 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15419932 trueblueinpw said:
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I think the Jets finish the season with the first overall and Giants second overall.

Jets trade their first to either Philly or WFT who then select the QB1 that our new GM Kevin Abrams had been telegraphing. KA is completely prepared though and instead drafts a young right wing prospect from Medicine Hat.


You apparently haven't been paying attention to the Lions. They easily could go 0-17. Look at their schedule. Atlanta, on the road no less, on Dec. 26 is their only real hope, unless Thanksgiving magic happens against the Bears. Lucky for the Giants, some of the teams with 1 win play each other.
RE: Why  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 3:50 pm : link
In comment 15420002 Toth029 said:
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Invest the #10 overall on Corral when they can just sign Marcus Mariota. :-)

OL and pass rush the way I'd go. Two h use massive problems in this current situation.


There is legit concern about Corral's body type. He's just not that big of a guy. But he has a plus arm, can make throws on the run and he's a tough, tough runner.

There will be some flags on his background check with some high school issues that may turn teams off. From all I have heard and read, he's matured since then and made the right move getting out of USC commitment (California kid) and going to Ole Miss.
RE: Passing on Corral twice...  
GMen72 : 10/18/2021 3:51 pm : link
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C'mon man! Did you see Corral against Bama (and this isn't even an elite Bama D)? He looked like a HS QB. There isn't a QB in this draft worth a top 20 pick. This team is going nowhere for 2-3 years...let DJ play us into another top 5-10 pick next year, then take a QB (if the 2023 draft has any?)
bw  
JonC : 10/18/2021 3:52 pm : link
My top 3 at the moment are Thib, Hutch, and Anderson in terms of top 10 edge options. Got to believe we can get one of them if we're picking top 5. Didn't notice your guy during the red river classis, but I've got the TCU game on DVR.
Reading These Posts  
Bernie : 10/18/2021 3:55 pm : link
is an in your face reminder of how bad Gettleman has been at talent evaluation and acquisition. Sadly, the state of the franchise is such that whatever they do or whomever they choose will be wrong.
RE: RE: Passing on Corral twice...  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 3:59 pm : link
In comment 15420050 GMen72 said:
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C'mon man! Did you see Corral against Bama (and this isn't even an elite Bama D)? He looked like a HS QB. There isn't a QB in this draft worth a top 20 pick. This team is going nowhere for 2-3 years...let DJ play us into another top 5-10 pick next year, then take a QB (if the 2023 draft has any?)


Losing Mingo before the game didn't help Corral. Mingo is a very good WR.

Regardless, Corral didn't play great - true. But he didn't play badly either. Ole Miss struggled with those early 4th down misses and couldn't get anything going.

Sometimes you just don't play well.
Corral and Lane Kiffin being buddies  
JonC : 10/18/2021 4:00 pm : link
is a red flag for me, the latter is a historic, epic douche.
Ryan Wilson is out of his mind  
giantstock : 10/18/2021 4:05 pm : link
In rounds 1 and 2 you need pass rushing, further help in the front 7, and any help in the OL.

No thanks to the QB. This team sucks too much to waste on a QB this early.
RE: So, Terps,  
Go Terps : 10/18/2021 4:07 pm : link
In comment 15419962 Angel Eyes said:
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how much faith do you have in Carter, Ximines, and Ojulari to make things happen on defense and get Corral the ball?


I'd draft Corral because I like the player. It sounds to me like you want to draft positions.

And THAT is how we ended up overdrafting Jones.
RE: bw  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 4:08 pm : link
In comment 15420054 JonC said:
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My top 3 at the moment are Thib, Hutch, and Anderson in terms of top 10 edge options. Got to believe we can get one of them if we're picking top 5. Didn't notice your guy during the red river classis, but I've got the TCU game on DVR.


I can buy Anderson. That front seven for Georgia is lethal. That DL with Wyatt/Davis/Walker open up a lot of opportunities for the LBs to create pressure.

Bonitto can really run and can turn the corner. Has something like 17 sacks so far through two full seasons, and this season.


I don't see it with Corral  
PwndPapi : 10/18/2021 4:23 pm : link
To me, he is a Drew Brees-type prospect (at the time he was drafted). Undersized, not a big arm. Not super athletic.

As for some of the scouting knocks (I am not a scout), they size decision making, staring down receivers, prone to turnovers, and inability to move through progressions. Who does that sound like?

I know Willis and Corral are the flavors of the week. Simply because they're empty pallates. We have no idea that they're better now or will be better than what we have now. No given.

I would rather hold on to Jones for another cost controlled season, continue to add pieces around him and see where we stand next season. This isn't 2000. QB busts on their first contract aren't breaking your cap. I see no reason to jettison Jones just to take another stab in the draft at another QB prospect. If there were a sure-fire lock, I might feel differently.

RE: RE: So, Terps,  
Angel Eyes : 10/18/2021 4:31 pm : link
In comment 15420087 Go Terps said:
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how much faith do you have in Carter, Ximines, and Ojulari to make things happen on defense and get Corral the ball?



I'd draft Corral because I like the player. It sounds to me like you want to draft positions.

And THAT is how we ended up overdrafting Jones.

He'd be wasted behind our offensive line. And our edges aren't getting any better.

Plus, you wanted to be rid of Jones back last draft and now I'm overdrafting?

Pot. Kettle. Black.
RE: I don't see it with Corral  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 4:32 pm : link
In comment 15420110 PwndPapi said:
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I know Willis and Corral are the flavors of the week. Simply because they're empty pallates. We have no idea that they're better now or will be better than what we have now. No given.



This is not a conversation if Jones was just a better player. And after two and a half years, he's just not reliable from game to game.

So to act like some high bar has to be met before we can move off Jones is pretty laughable.
RE: RE: RE: So, Terps,  
Go Terps : 10/18/2021 4:37 pm : link
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how much faith do you have in Carter, Ximines, and Ojulari to make things happen on defense and get Corral the ball?



I'd draft Corral because I like the player. It sounds to me like you want to draft positions.

And THAT is how we ended up overdrafting Jones.


He'd be wasted behind our offensive line. And our edges aren't getting any better.

Plus, you wanted to be rid of Jones back last draft and now I'm overdrafting?

Pot. Kettle. Black.


What are you talking about?

I think Corral is one of the ten best players in the draft. Drafting him at 5 or 10 isn't overdrafting.

I'm not targeting him solely because he's a quarterback and we need a quarterback. It's just fortunate it lines up.

But it lined up for us in 2018 and 2020 too when we need a quarterback and we were too stupid to pull the trigger.

My expectation is we stick with Jones.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So, Terps,  
Angel Eyes : 10/18/2021 4:40 pm : link
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how much faith do you have in Carter, Ximines, and Ojulari to make things happen on defense and get Corral the ball?



I'd draft Corral because I like the player. It sounds to me like you want to draft positions.

And THAT is how we ended up overdrafting Jones.


He'd be wasted behind our offensive line. And our edges aren't getting any better.

Plus, you wanted to be rid of Jones back last draft and now I'm overdrafting?

Pot. Kettle. Black.



What are you talking about?

I think Corral is one of the ten best players in the draft. Drafting him at 5 or 10 isn't overdrafting.

I'm not targeting him solely because he's a quarterback and we need a quarterback. It's just fortunate it lines up.

I'd say the same for the edge rushers. It's a need and it lines up.
RE: RE: We need edge man  
Joe Beckwith : 10/18/2021 7:53 pm : link
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Don't care who is back there, we have to have pressure coming off the edge. Is it to high for Aiden?


In this scenario, Aidan was picked third by the Texans.


We can replace the Texans, and could be in the fight for Thibodeaux or Neal.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So, Terps,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/18/2021 7:55 pm : link
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how much faith do you have in Carter, Ximines, and Ojulari to make things happen on defense and get Corral the ball?



I'd draft Corral because I like the player. It sounds to me like you want to draft positions.

And THAT is how we ended up overdrafting Jones.


He'd be wasted behind our offensive line. And our edges aren't getting any better.

Plus, you wanted to be rid of Jones back last draft and now I'm overdrafting?

Pot. Kettle. Black.



What are you talking about?

I think Corral is one of the ten best players in the draft. Drafting him at 5 or 10 isn't overdrafting.

I'm not targeting him solely because he's a quarterback and we need a quarterback. It's just fortunate it lines up.

But it lined up for us in 2018 and 2020 too when we need a quarterback and we were too stupid to pull the trigger.

My expectation is we stick with Jones.


I haven't seen enough of Corral to form an opinion on him. I'm not opposed to drafting a QB because I don't think Jones is the long term answer.
RE: ....  
barens : 10/18/2021 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15419873 BrettNYG10 said:
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I don't remember Burrow or Murray as highly ranked QBs going into their draft years (maybe I'm wrong on this). It's too early to say it's a bad QB year.


Going into, no, but halfway thru the season, yes.
Corral highlights v Bama this season  
cosmicj : 10/18/2021 8:24 pm : link
Not a great game but check out the throw at 0:44 left in the 1st quarter. There’s also a great throw off balance in the final drive into the Tide red zone.
And  
cosmicj : 10/18/2021 8:25 pm : link
With the link
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Here are the highlights from  
cosmicj : 10/18/2021 8:40 pm : link
Mississippi v Bama in 2020. Corral looks like a better prospect than Mac Jones.
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cosmicj...  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 8:47 pm : link
Check some video of Kenny Pickett of Pitt.

Nice looking throwing motion, good zip, good movement, gritty.


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RE: cosmicj...  
Angel Eyes : 10/18/2021 8:53 pm : link
In comment 15420481 bw in dc said:
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Check some video of Kenny Pickett of Pitt.

Nice looking throwing motion, good zip, good movement, gritty.
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Funnily enough, I have considered him for a pick in the third or fourth round.
Pickett  
cosmicj : 10/18/2021 8:55 pm : link
interesting. Towards the end of the video, there’s a terrific pass he makes under pressure v NC State. Just brilliant off schedule throw. Big arm, looks physically like an NFL player, but slow release. Definitely a prospect.

He’s from Monmouth County. Wonder if he grew up a Giants fan.
RE: Pickett  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15420507 cosmicj said:
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interesting. Towards the end of the video, there’s a terrific pass he makes under pressure v NC State. Just brilliant off schedule throw. Big arm, looks physically like an NFL player, but slow release. Definitely a prospect.

He’s from Monmouth County. Wonder if he grew up a Giants fan.


Oh, no. I'm out then... ;)

Seriously, I like a lot here. Pickett looks like a football player who plays QB. Good thing is Pitt has a nice remaining schedule - Clemson, UVA, UNC, Cuse. So he'll get some more TV time to showcase against quality ACC schools.
We have to solidify  
EricJ : 10/18/2021 10:14 pm : link
The line of scrimmage. Selecting other positions at this point will yield very little change
….  
ryanmkeane : 10/18/2021 11:01 pm : link
Stingley would be such a good pick. Blue chip talent.
We have 9 picks  
M.S. : 10/19/2021 5:41 am : link

I would select as follows:

1. Offensive Line
2. Defensive Line
3. Offensive Line
4. Defensive Line
5. Offensive Line
6. Defensive Line
7. Offensive Line
8. Defensive Line
9. Offensive Line

See any pattern here?
bw...glad I turned you on to Kenny Pickett  
Rick in Dallas : 10/19/2021 6:53 am : link
I really think he jumps up draft boards as we get close to next year's draft. Pitt's remaining schedule is not easy and will be a good barometer on Pickett's game.
He has had a history of fumbles in the past but seems to have cleaned that up this year.
He could end up a top 100 prospect in this coming draft.
I hope we  
MyNameIsMyName : 10/19/2021 7:06 am : link
Can get Hutchinson, he’s looking great this year. Though I think he’s playing himself into the top 5
If draft goes like this  
Giants73 : 10/19/2021 7:40 am : link
I’m taking Harris at 5 and Kingsley with the giants second pick. Kingsley length is insane, plus a great first step. Harris just plays nasty, much needed on this Defense
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