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CBS Sports: First Round Mock Draft (10/18/2021)

M.S. : 10/18/2021 1:44 pm

By Ryan Wilson

Only 192 days to the 2022 NFL Draft, and it can't come soon enough. The Giants have been hooked, fried and eaten, and the only thing left is for the scavengers to pick over the bones.

The good news -- this Mock Draft has the Giants selecting #5 (their own pick) and #10 (Chicago's). The latter seems just about right. But there's no way in hell the Giants are picking #5 (unless their strength of schedule works against them.) This team has the look of one that will have the #1 overall pick and no lower than 2.

At #5 the Giants take Derek Stingley Jr. (CB LSU). Given he underwent a foot "procedure" and has missed several games, he seems like a perfect fit for these injury-riddled Giants. As for the argument that the Giants have already devoted a ton of draft and free agent resources to their secondary... oh, well. Embrace the suck.

At #10 the Giants select Kenyon Green (OL Texas A& M). I like the player at a position of tremendous need. I just hope we get him into a locker room that's been swept clean of as many current players as possible.

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Reading These Posts  
Bernie : 10/18/2021 3:55 pm : link
is an in your face reminder of how bad Gettleman has been at talent evaluation and acquisition. Sadly, the state of the franchise is such that whatever they do or whomever they choose will be wrong.
RE: RE: Passing on Corral twice...  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 3:59 pm : link
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C'mon man! Did you see Corral against Bama (and this isn't even an elite Bama D)? He looked like a HS QB. There isn't a QB in this draft worth a top 20 pick. This team is going nowhere for 2-3 years...let DJ play us into another top 5-10 pick next year, then take a QB (if the 2023 draft has any?)


Losing Mingo before the game didn't help Corral. Mingo is a very good WR.

Regardless, Corral didn't play great - true. But he didn't play badly either. Ole Miss struggled with those early 4th down misses and couldn't get anything going.

Sometimes you just don't play well.
Corral and Lane Kiffin being buddies  
JonC : 10/18/2021 4:00 pm : link
is a red flag for me, the latter is a historic, epic douche.
Ryan Wilson is out of his mind  
giantstock : 10/18/2021 4:05 pm : link
In rounds 1 and 2 you need pass rushing, further help in the front 7, and any help in the OL.

No thanks to the QB. This team sucks too much to waste on a QB this early.
RE: So, Terps,  
Go Terps : 10/18/2021 4:07 pm : link
In comment 15419962 Angel Eyes said:
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how much faith do you have in Carter, Ximines, and Ojulari to make things happen on defense and get Corral the ball?


I'd draft Corral because I like the player. It sounds to me like you want to draft positions.

And THAT is how we ended up overdrafting Jones.
RE: bw  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 4:08 pm : link
In comment 15420054 JonC said:
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My top 3 at the moment are Thib, Hutch, and Anderson in terms of top 10 edge options. Got to believe we can get one of them if we're picking top 5. Didn't notice your guy during the red river classis, but I've got the TCU game on DVR.


I can buy Anderson. That front seven for Georgia is lethal. That DL with Wyatt/Davis/Walker open up a lot of opportunities for the LBs to create pressure.

Bonitto can really run and can turn the corner. Has something like 17 sacks so far through two full seasons, and this season.


I don't see it with Corral  
PwndPapi : 10/18/2021 4:23 pm : link
To me, he is a Drew Brees-type prospect (at the time he was drafted). Undersized, not a big arm. Not super athletic.

As for some of the scouting knocks (I am not a scout), they size decision making, staring down receivers, prone to turnovers, and inability to move through progressions. Who does that sound like?

I know Willis and Corral are the flavors of the week. Simply because they're empty pallates. We have no idea that they're better now or will be better than what we have now. No given.

I would rather hold on to Jones for another cost controlled season, continue to add pieces around him and see where we stand next season. This isn't 2000. QB busts on their first contract aren't breaking your cap. I see no reason to jettison Jones just to take another stab in the draft at another QB prospect. If there were a sure-fire lock, I might feel differently.

RE: RE: So, Terps,  
Angel Eyes : 10/18/2021 4:31 pm : link
In comment 15420087 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15419962 Angel Eyes said:


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how much faith do you have in Carter, Ximines, and Ojulari to make things happen on defense and get Corral the ball?



I'd draft Corral because I like the player. It sounds to me like you want to draft positions.

And THAT is how we ended up overdrafting Jones.

He'd be wasted behind our offensive line. And our edges aren't getting any better.

Plus, you wanted to be rid of Jones back last draft and now I'm overdrafting?

Pot. Kettle. Black.
RE: I don't see it with Corral  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 4:32 pm : link
In comment 15420110 PwndPapi said:
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I know Willis and Corral are the flavors of the week. Simply because they're empty pallates. We have no idea that they're better now or will be better than what we have now. No given.



This is not a conversation if Jones was just a better player. And after two and a half years, he's just not reliable from game to game.

So to act like some high bar has to be met before we can move off Jones is pretty laughable.
RE: RE: RE: So, Terps,  
Go Terps : 10/18/2021 4:37 pm : link
In comment 15420118 Angel Eyes said:
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In comment 15419962 Angel Eyes said:


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how much faith do you have in Carter, Ximines, and Ojulari to make things happen on defense and get Corral the ball?



I'd draft Corral because I like the player. It sounds to me like you want to draft positions.

And THAT is how we ended up overdrafting Jones.


He'd be wasted behind our offensive line. And our edges aren't getting any better.

Plus, you wanted to be rid of Jones back last draft and now I'm overdrafting?

Pot. Kettle. Black.


What are you talking about?

I think Corral is one of the ten best players in the draft. Drafting him at 5 or 10 isn't overdrafting.

I'm not targeting him solely because he's a quarterback and we need a quarterback. It's just fortunate it lines up.

But it lined up for us in 2018 and 2020 too when we need a quarterback and we were too stupid to pull the trigger.

My expectation is we stick with Jones.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So, Terps,  
Angel Eyes : 10/18/2021 4:40 pm : link
In comment 15420129 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15420087 Go Terps said:


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how much faith do you have in Carter, Ximines, and Ojulari to make things happen on defense and get Corral the ball?



I'd draft Corral because I like the player. It sounds to me like you want to draft positions.

And THAT is how we ended up overdrafting Jones.


He'd be wasted behind our offensive line. And our edges aren't getting any better.

Plus, you wanted to be rid of Jones back last draft and now I'm overdrafting?

Pot. Kettle. Black.



What are you talking about?

I think Corral is one of the ten best players in the draft. Drafting him at 5 or 10 isn't overdrafting.

I'm not targeting him solely because he's a quarterback and we need a quarterback. It's just fortunate it lines up.

I'd say the same for the edge rushers. It's a need and it lines up.
RE: RE: We need edge man  
Joe Beckwith : 10/18/2021 7:53 pm : link
In comment 15419797 Angel Eyes said:
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Don't care who is back there, we have to have pressure coming off the edge. Is it to high for Aiden?


In this scenario, Aidan was picked third by the Texans.


We can replace the Texans, and could be in the fight for Thibodeaux or Neal.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So, Terps,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/18/2021 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15420129 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15420087 Go Terps said:


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In comment 15419962 Angel Eyes said:


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how much faith do you have in Carter, Ximines, and Ojulari to make things happen on defense and get Corral the ball?



I'd draft Corral because I like the player. It sounds to me like you want to draft positions.

And THAT is how we ended up overdrafting Jones.


He'd be wasted behind our offensive line. And our edges aren't getting any better.

Plus, you wanted to be rid of Jones back last draft and now I'm overdrafting?

Pot. Kettle. Black.



What are you talking about?

I think Corral is one of the ten best players in the draft. Drafting him at 5 or 10 isn't overdrafting.

I'm not targeting him solely because he's a quarterback and we need a quarterback. It's just fortunate it lines up.

But it lined up for us in 2018 and 2020 too when we need a quarterback and we were too stupid to pull the trigger.

My expectation is we stick with Jones.


I haven't seen enough of Corral to form an opinion on him. I'm not opposed to drafting a QB because I don't think Jones is the long term answer.
RE: ....  
barens : 10/18/2021 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15419873 BrettNYG10 said:
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I don't remember Burrow or Murray as highly ranked QBs going into their draft years (maybe I'm wrong on this). It's too early to say it's a bad QB year.


Going into, no, but halfway thru the season, yes.
Corral highlights v Bama this season  
cosmicj : 10/18/2021 8:24 pm : link
Not a great game but check out the throw at 0:44 left in the 1st quarter. There’s also a great throw off balance in the final drive into the Tide red zone.
And  
cosmicj : 10/18/2021 8:25 pm : link
With the link
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Here are the highlights from  
cosmicj : 10/18/2021 8:40 pm : link
Mississippi v Bama in 2020. Corral looks like a better prospect than Mac Jones.
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cosmicj...  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 8:47 pm : link
Check some video of Kenny Pickett of Pitt.

Nice looking throwing motion, good zip, good movement, gritty.


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RE: cosmicj...  
Angel Eyes : 10/18/2021 8:53 pm : link
In comment 15420481 bw in dc said:
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Check some video of Kenny Pickett of Pitt.

Nice looking throwing motion, good zip, good movement, gritty.
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Funnily enough, I have considered him for a pick in the third or fourth round.
Pickett  
cosmicj : 10/18/2021 8:55 pm : link
interesting. Towards the end of the video, there’s a terrific pass he makes under pressure v NC State. Just brilliant off schedule throw. Big arm, looks physically like an NFL player, but slow release. Definitely a prospect.

He’s from Monmouth County. Wonder if he grew up a Giants fan.
RE: Pickett  
bw in dc : 10/18/2021 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15420507 cosmicj said:
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interesting. Towards the end of the video, there’s a terrific pass he makes under pressure v NC State. Just brilliant off schedule throw. Big arm, looks physically like an NFL player, but slow release. Definitely a prospect.

He’s from Monmouth County. Wonder if he grew up a Giants fan.


Oh, no. I'm out then... ;)

Seriously, I like a lot here. Pickett looks like a football player who plays QB. Good thing is Pitt has a nice remaining schedule - Clemson, UVA, UNC, Cuse. So he'll get some more TV time to showcase against quality ACC schools.
We have to solidify  
EricJ : 10/18/2021 10:14 pm : link
The line of scrimmage. Selecting other positions at this point will yield very little change
….  
ryanmkeane : 10/18/2021 11:01 pm : link
Stingley would be such a good pick. Blue chip talent.
We have 9 picks  
M.S. : 10/19/2021 5:41 am : link

I would select as follows:

1. Offensive Line
2. Defensive Line
3. Offensive Line
4. Defensive Line
5. Offensive Line
6. Defensive Line
7. Offensive Line
8. Defensive Line
9. Offensive Line

See any pattern here?
bw...glad I turned you on to Kenny Pickett  
Rick in Dallas : 10/19/2021 6:53 am : link
I really think he jumps up draft boards as we get close to next year's draft. Pitt's remaining schedule is not easy and will be a good barometer on Pickett's game.
He has had a history of fumbles in the past but seems to have cleaned that up this year.
He could end up a top 100 prospect in this coming draft.
I hope we  
MyNameIsMyName : 10/19/2021 7:06 am : link
Can get Hutchinson, he’s looking great this year. Though I think he’s playing himself into the top 5
If draft goes like this  
Giants73 : 10/19/2021 7:40 am : link
I’m taking Harris at 5 and Kingsley with the giants second pick. Kingsley length is insane, plus a great first step. Harris just plays nasty, much needed on this Defense
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