I don't like Boone, but Cashman/Hal are the real problem that needs to be solved. Looks like we get another year of hoping for the wildcard with a flawed roster that's under the luxury tax threshold! Woohoo!
Great, this is our response after the Sox pounded the Stros 2 games
our problems are mainly due to the non-contact hitting lineup and a $300m+ SP who may need to redefine himself without spidertac. Such a stupid contract.
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This one was inevitable once Boone wasn't let go immediately after the season. The Yankees need to revamp their lineup - add a contact hitting CF and shortstop, move Gary Sanchez to the NL, and fish or cut bait with Frazier, Andujar and Hicks. I would like to see Rizzo stay but that will mean moving Voit. In terms of pitching, give the young arms a shot and cut ties with the oft-injured. Looking at the current postseason, I'm just so impressed with the hated Red Sox - they just put the bat on the ball and rout teams the Yankees have problems beating. Their big players come up big in important spots.
and I’m sure a lot of his decisions are based on analytics pushed on him by the front office. If they get better, it’s going to be because Hal opened the bank account a little more and cashman made some good moves. I don’t think Boone swings the needle much either way but at least the players seem to like him.
who doesn’t care and a GM who feels zero pressure to keep his job based on the team’s performance… you know, the way 99.999% of general managers in professional sports do.
I do. I think he knows exactly the position he's in and hates being thought of as a joke. He's set for life, threatening to fire him isn't going to do anything - at his level its about legacy and I'm guessing he wants to right that ship.
In professional sports, when one does a bad job, they
don’t have the job anymore. That’s real pressure. Brian Cashman doesn’t face that. That’s how you can do something like keep Aaron Boone despite the absence of any evidence that the guy has improved the team during his tenure. We’re reduced to, “At least the players like him.” They don’t like him enough to run the bases with effort or intelligence. The list of players who’ve regressed or stagnated is longer than the list of those who’ve improved.
Hal blamed the players for their underperformance during a midseason press conference. Well, who’s picking the players?
well if you are fired then there isn't pressure anymore
be mad at Cashman all you want but claiming he doesn't face pressure is ridiculous.
I am not sure what kind of pressure you are talking about. Internal or External? External pressure he does feel somewhat (although before this year he had a really friendly media), but there almost no indication that he feels internal pressure from the Steinbrenners. Indeed, it almost seems like Cashman is not a subordinate but basically a proxy for them. Some GMS' have that, like Roseman in Philadelphia, the boss thinks so much of them that all the external pressure is undeniable, but there is not that internal pressure.
I do. I think he knows exactly the position he's in and hates being thought of as a joke. He's set for life, threatening to fire him isn't going to do anything - at his level its about legacy and I'm guessing he wants to right that ship.
Sounds like an owner in East Rutherford I know. Still doesn't inspire confidence.
I can't actually point to anything tangible but I find it hard to believe the guy just doesn't give a shit because "he can't get fired". I think he feels immense pressure to win and his plan isn't working. I'd be curious to know who decided to pay Cole and what the actual dynamic is with decision making on monster contracts.
I can't actually point to anything tangible but I find it hard to believe the guy just doesn't give a shit because "he can't get fired". I think he feels immense pressure to win and his plan isn't working. I'd be curious to know who decided to pay Cole and what the actual dynamic is with decision making on monster contracts.
I actually know someone who knows Cashman fairly well and the impression I get about Cashman is that he is supremely confident person who is an odd guy and kinds of marches to his own beat, but that still does not mean he does not feel the external pressure to win and the self-legacy pressure. I think Yankee fans would like it if he felt pressure from within the organization, but the Steinbrenners own the team and we don't
Cashman has won some small trades and people think he’s some
The last time his team won the WS he outspent the next team by nearly 70M.
Sure, Boone or a laptop, or a sedated monkey, can manage a baseball team but why would you bring him back after witnessing how Cora has transformed the Sox this year? This team, however flawed, which is not Boone’s fault, nonetheless played a lazy, mistake-filled brand of baseball with zero sense of urgency.
This year better be a wake-up call. They traded Ottavino to the Sox for crying out loud, that’s how arrogant Cashman was. Although I don’t like it, this better means Hal is opening the checkbook.
The last time the Yankees won a WS (or even just made it to the WS), they won/got there because they spent a TON of money on FA's like CC, Teixera, and AJ Burnett.
The extreme focus on analytics by Cashman has netted the Yankees exactly zero World Series wins and zero World Series appearances.
Analytics are important. But it seems like there are organizations out there that use and apply these analytics much better than Cashman and his crew.
If they spend some money and address second ace, shortstop, catcher, and CF. Maybe there's hope.
In some ways this may be a tank/sell off year. Chappy and Britton could be sold at the deadline for prospects. Same for Gary. If they do that and retool the farm while adding a big name shortstop and starter, I'd be satisfied. It would suck to lose a year of DJ and Judge, but we're not in a great spot. However, we are in a position to be sellers and still have a playoff berth.
Another reason to think the Yankees will not win another WS
Except it says that Boone possesses the baseball acumen to continue to guide them forward. What does that even mean? In the years he has been here, if he does possess it, he hasn't exactly shown it. They've been a failure his entire tenure here.
Firing a few of his coaches seemed to signal they would take that half measure. A three year contract with a fourth year option, now that is pretty shocking and a vote of confidence that really hasn't been earned.
Except it says that Boone possesses the baseball acumen to continue to guide them forward. What does that even mean? In the years he has been here, if he does possess it, he hasn't exactly shown it. They've been a failure his entire tenure here.
Back to back 100 win seasons says otherwise, and that happened despite all the injuries and constant rotating door of starting pitching that Aaron Boone has no control over. I get it, no titles, but if winning 100 games is a failure than I'll take it every season.
Except it says that Boone possesses the baseball acumen to continue to guide them forward. What does that even mean? In the years he has been here, if he does possess it, he hasn't exactly shown it. They've been a failure his entire tenure here.
Back to back 100 win seasons says otherwise, and that happened despite all the injuries and constant rotating door of starting pitching that Aaron Boone has no control over. I get it, no titles, but if winning 100 games is a failure than I'll take it every season.
Not only no titles, but they've been going backwards these past few years as far as going deep into the playoffs. They get eliminated a round sooner every year over these past 3 or so years. They're literally going backwards under Boone.
And I get Cashman plays a huge part, too. Bringing them both back is a massive mistake.
Levine, Fishman, Cashman, Boone, Mendoza, some of the other coaches and several of the major league players need to go.
Instead they'll make the hitting coaches the fall guys, will not move the real player problems, and will finish fourth in the AL East next season despite the highest payroll in the league.
This sucks.
We better be signing Freeman, Seager and Scherzer.
If 3X the payroll isn’t enough to beat the Rays, how about 4X? That’s the Cashman way. Let’s block all the IF prospects we have, jerk them around ao they develop vertigo like Frazier, just so Seager can play 70 games a year.
Hal may be as clueless as John Mara. Meanwhile Boston has a Tampa guy at the helm…
look how long it took the Dodgers. They constantly spent money and made trades to take on huge contracts only to blow it every year. So many things need to break right.
he's a glorified baby sitter, Cashman's puppet, the guy Hal and Cashman have to do pre and post game press conferences before and after every game. He was left to twist in the wind for two weeks to take the heat for another top 5 payroll winning nothing. Finally getting announced back during a day when the two teams that have pushed the Yankees stools in the past few years are playing for their next championships.
The Yankees have won the AL East twice in the past 10 years with at least a top 5 payroll every year. That's quite an accomplishment and Brian Cashman is very proud of it. Today he went in front of his fawning media who treat him like they're interviewing Gandhi or Mandela and told the unwashed masses that this year was his toughest and he doesn't know what happened in 2021 and hasn't figured out if it's a one off or "systemic"
He has figured out that he has no SS, no starting catcher and a problem in CF but until daddy Hal gives him his allowance this winter that's all he can say. Then he launched in a passionate defense of Gary Sanchez and his big heart and how hard he tries and how much he's improved defensively. IMO Gary Sanchez sucks the life of the team and the fan base year after year. IMO the minute he's off the 40 man the Yankees have improved. Call me naive but aren't you supposed to try hard as part of the job? In MLB do you get a medal for trying? Or is doing the right thing and always giving max effort supposed to be how you go about your business as standard practice like I was taught when I was a kid. Trade for a defense first everyday catcher. Contrary to the Cashman media apologists it's not a difficult spot to fill.
This isn't the relatively level NFL playing field. This is uncapped MLB. The Cashman Yankees have proven that no matter how poorly you run your organization that if you spend at the top of the industry you can still make the playoffs while your main rival wins championships, blows it up and starts over and beats you again. It's nothing to be proud of. The Rays can be proud of making the playoffs. They do it against all odds. It's almost impossible for the Yankees not to make the playoffs with their payroll BIG F**KING DEAL.
Don't get me wrong if it was up to me the Yankees would spend 400 million a year on players. Take a look at what MLB teams spend as a percentage of revenue on payroll the past 20 years and you'll see why Boone is right when he says a lot of teams have closed the talent gap on the Yankees. Look at what the Yankees used to spend and what they spend now. Hal has let MLB catch up to the Yankees and pocketed the money he saving as profits.
Cashman rolled out all his best material today you tell he loves the sound of his own voice, basically the greatest hits except big hairy monsters. I didn't hear that one, checks all the boxes and the rest were played during this set. He even put some comedy into the act with some new material. He thinks the Yankees need to make more contact and be more athletic (who could have figured that out - it's why he makes the big bucks) so he addressed that at the trade deadline with Rizzo (more contact - who has 0.0 chance of being a 2022 Yankee) and Gallo (more athletic who strikes out 1 out of 3 PAs and will be a Yankee next year) and told us Luke Voit will be ready for spring training. Oh Joy. More Luke Voit.
No one had the guts or forethought to ask him about why his analytics department would add Gallo to a line up that already strikes out way way too much or why he batted cleanup in the WC game. It's as if Cashman and his laptops evaluate players inside the cone of silence with no regard for how they fit with the rest of the roster.
Back to why I don't care if Boone came back or if he didn't. IMO It changes nothing The Yankees mgr. doesn't build/choose the 40 man roster, he doesn't run player development, he doesn't have much if any input on FAs/trades and none on draft picks or UDFAs, he doesn't decide who gets called up or sent down during the season, he doesn't set the lineup, he doesn't decide who plays where on the field. He just doesn't make any difference at all. Over 162 games whatever pitching change or pinch hitting or pinch running mistakes he makes even out with dumb luck. IMO the Yankees mgr. is meaningless and worthless.
I'm looking forward to another year of watching all the $1000 empty seats behind home plate in that concrete moat Randy Levine built and announced attendance of double the people in the building. Hal, his family and his flunkies do not understand how unlikeable the Yankees have become. Everyone used to hate the Yankees except their own fans. Now half of them hate the Yankees too. They deserve it, there can't be amore tone deaf organization in sports.
And before any of you try to compare the Yankees to any other NYC sports team save it. None of that applies. The Yankees have so many financial advantages they should be crushing MLB.
That's the problem with bringing him back no matter the managers role these days. And signing him to a THREE year contract with an option...what the fuck?
THERE IS NO MANAGERIAL SOLUTION. NONE. Dead or alive. Casey Stengel, Earl Weaver, Billy Martin, Leo Durocher, Sparky Anderson, Jim Leyland, etc. Name anyone you want to name in history of baseball and IT DOESN'T MATTER. The manager has no authority on anything that matters to W/Ls with the Yankees in 2022.
Maybe if you dig up Connie Mack and he owns the team instead of Hal he'd have some authority aside from that? Nada. Zippo. Zilch.
The Yankees biggest star is Brain Cashman, just ask him.
Everyone else is expendable and open for business. He said that today.
Unfortunately we're stuck with Cashman because it would literally take not making the playoffs for multiple years for Hal to let him go but to your point, with their payroll that's highly unlikely to happen.
THERE IS NO MANAGERIAL SOLUTION. NONE. Dead or alive. Casey Stengel, Earl Weaver, Billy Martin, Leo Durocher, Sparky Anderson, Jim Leyland, etc. Name anyone you want to name in history of baseball and IT DOESN'T MATTER. The manager has no authority on anything that matters to W/Ls with the Yankees in 2022.
Maybe if you dig up Connie Mack and he owns the team instead of Hal he'd have some authority aside from that? Nada. Zippo. Zilch.
The Yankees biggest star is Brain Cashman, just ask him.
Everyone else is expendable and open for business. He said that today.
I'm not in denial about anything. I want both gone. I realize Cashman is the much bigger fish in this equation. That doesn't mean I wouldn't want both guys gone, though.
I certainly don't think Boone adds any value at all to the Yankees. He's soft and they're soft. I think it would be fun if the Yankees hired a manager who told Hal right before the season started I'm dropping the "grooming policy" if you want to fire me for that go ahead but if my guys want to all grow Letterman beards they can have at it.
I do think there's something negative in the Yankee culture with the conformity issues and pressurized clubhouse that has nothing to do with the "tough" fan base or media and everything to with the political animals Hal employs. It would be great to see someone take that on. Clearly Boone is not that guy.
I certainly don't think Boone adds any value at all to the Yankees. He's soft and they're soft. I think it would be fun if the Yankees hired a manager who told Hal right before the season started I'm dropping the "grooming policy" if you want to fire me for that go ahead but if my guys want to all grow Letterman beards they can have at it.
I do think there's something negative in the Yankee culture with the conformity issues and pressurized clubhouse that has nothing to do with the "tough" fan base or media and everything to with the political animals Hal employs. It would be great to see someone take that on. Clearly Boone is not that guy.
Frankly I like the grooming policy. I just do. I do not think it has anything to do with the Yanks winning or losing. It does not prevent players from signing. And it certainly does not prevent them from playing good baseball.
If you think a manager protesting the grooming policy will make the Yankees a better team, I think you just blew what you said above. People come to the Yankees, because they pay well and that is all that matters. A few players still think playing for the Yankees is special.
I want to enjoy watching the Yankees play. I didn't enjoy watching them in 2021 and the brand of baseball they have been building the team to play isn't fun. That seems to be on Cashman so Boone coming back isn't nearly as frustrating as Cashman's lifetime job security.
he's a glorified baby sitter, Cashman's puppet, the guy Hal and Cashman have to do pre and post game press conferences before and after every game. He was left to twist in the wind for two weeks to take the heat for another top 5 payroll winning nothing. Finally getting announced back during a day when the two teams that have pushed the Yankees stools in the past few years are playing for their next championships.
The Yankees have won the AL East twice in the past 10 years with at least a top 5 payroll every year. That's quite an accomplishment and Brian Cashman is very proud of it. Today he went in front of his fawning media who treat him like they're interviewing Gandhi or Mandela and told the unwashed masses that this year was his toughest and he doesn't know what happened in 2021 and hasn't figured out if it's a one off or "systemic"
He has figured out that he has no SS, no starting catcher and a problem in CF but until daddy Hal gives him his allowance this winter that's all he can say. Then he launched in a passionate defense of Gary Sanchez and his big heart and how hard he tries and how much he's improved defensively. IMO Gary Sanchez sucks the life of the team and the fan base year after year. IMO the minute he's off the 40 man the Yankees have improved. Call me naive but aren't you supposed to try hard as part of the job? In MLB do you get a medal for trying? Or is doing the right thing and always giving max effort supposed to be how you go about your business as standard practice like I was taught when I was a kid. Trade for a defense first everyday catcher. Contrary to the Cashman media apologists it's not a difficult spot to fill.
This isn't the relatively level NFL playing field. This is uncapped MLB. The Cashman Yankees have proven that no matter how poorly you run your organization that if you spend at the top of the industry you can still make the playoffs while your main rival wins championships, blows it up and starts over and beats you again. It's nothing to be proud of. The Rays can be proud of making the playoffs. They do it against all odds. It's almost impossible for the Yankees not to make the playoffs with their payroll BIG F**KING DEAL.
Don't get me wrong if it was up to me the Yankees would spend 400 million a year on players. Take a look at what MLB teams spend as a percentage of revenue on payroll the past 20 years and you'll see why Boone is right when he says a lot of teams have closed the talent gap on the Yankees. Look at what the Yankees used to spend and what they spend now. Hal has let MLB catch up to the Yankees and pocketed the money he saving as profits.
Cashman rolled out all his best material today you tell he loves the sound of his own voice, basically the greatest hits except big hairy monsters. I didn't hear that one, checks all the boxes and the rest were played during this set. He even put some comedy into the act with some new material. He thinks the Yankees need to make more contact and be more athletic (who could have figured that out - it's why he makes the big bucks) so he addressed that at the trade deadline with Rizzo (more contact - who has 0.0 chance of being a 2022 Yankee) and Gallo (more athletic who strikes out 1 out of 3 PAs and will be a Yankee next year) and told us Luke Voit will be ready for spring training. Oh Joy. More Luke Voit.
No one had the guts or forethought to ask him about why his analytics department would add Gallo to a line up that already strikes out way way too much or why he batted cleanup in the WC game. It's as if Cashman and his laptops evaluate players inside the cone of silence with no regard for how they fit with the rest of the roster.
Back to why I don't care if Boone came back or if he didn't. IMO It changes nothing The Yankees mgr. doesn't build/choose the 40 man roster, he doesn't run player development, he doesn't have much if any input on FAs/trades and none on draft picks or UDFAs, he doesn't decide who gets called up or sent down during the season, he doesn't set the lineup, he doesn't decide who plays where on the field. He just doesn't make any difference at all. Over 162 games whatever pitching change or pinch hitting or pinch running mistakes he makes even out with dumb luck. IMO the Yankees mgr. is meaningless and worthless.
I'm looking forward to another year of watching all the $1000 empty seats behind home plate in that concrete moat Randy Levine built and announced attendance of double the people in the building. Hal, his family and his flunkies do not understand how unlikeable the Yankees have become. Everyone used to hate the Yankees except their own fans. Now half of them hate the Yankees too. They deserve it, there can't be amore tone deaf organization in sports.
And before any of you try to compare the Yankees to any other NYC sports team save it. None of that applies. The Yankees have so many financial advantages they should be crushing MLB.
*mic drop*
Arnie is killing it nowadays, on both the Giants and the Yanks.
One team has been an abject failure and other squandering its resources. Yet we still have people staunchly defending the status quo, now the two teams have revealed themselves, one once again forfeiting the season in October, and the other hoping for someone else to beat its hated rival, those loudmouths are nowhere to be found.
We know at least Arnie cares, these others just worry more about being right. I really don’t know what they get from putting strangers down on a message board.
RE: Arnie is killing it nowadays, on both the Giants and the Yanks.
One team has been an abject failure and other squandering its resources. Yet we still have people staunchly defending the status quo, now the two teams have revealed themselves, one once again forfeiting the season in October, and the other hoping for someone else to beat its hated rival, those loudmouths are nowhere to be found.
We know at least Arnie cares, these others just worry more about being right. I really don’t know what they get from putting strangers down on a message board.
Jim what the heck are you talking about? You just emptied a 10 gauge shotgun of nonsense at everyone. Forget the Giants, they are a different species. Stick to the Yankees. And yeah people on the Giants side only wish to be right and we know who they are. But most Yankees fans have been right. We can see what the problems are. Arniefez catalogued them and they are not different from what everyone has been saying.
Hardly anyone I know wants Boone here and most think while Cashman has done an ok job he has not done a great job and is reason #1 for the Yanks not moving forward. Boone is a good guy and is liked in the clubhouse. But he is not a good manager.
Here's the difference between you and me. I said all of that on opening day. I don't need a crowd to agree with me to voice my opinion.
I'm long retired but my work history involved holding people accountable for good and bad work. In NY sports between the Yankees and Giants accountability is missing. On and off the field.
I've tried to find the Yankees thread after opening day in the archives. Does anyone know how to post it?
One game yada yada yada
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It's not one game it's more like the 223rd game of the 2019 season.
I scanned the thread yesterday and saw a few people mention how unexcited they were for the season to start. I wonder why.
There were 30 outs yesterday 13 of them were K's, they got 6 hits and were 0-9 with RISP. The only runs they scored were the 1 HR they hit.
It's not one game, this is who this team as assembled will always be.
It's interesting how much of a pass Cashman gets from a lot of the fan base and all of the media. Signing Severino and Hicks for over a 100 million dollars way before he had to and letting Didi leave with no replacement would be a fireable offense on it's own for most GM's.
That post was immediately sh*t all over by the usual suspects. I had already seen enough. No SS, no contact = no playoff wins.
“I know the results might not be there,” Cashman said of Sanchez, “but I’m proud of him. He’s a guy with a lot of heart, care and effort. If something happens, it blows up.”
“I know the results might not be there,” Cashman said of Sanchez, “but I’m proud of him. He’s a guy with a lot of heart, care and effort. If something happens, it blows up.”
Keep in mind that the Yankees will be shopping Sanchez most likely this offseason and he can't come out and say the truth that Sanchez is a losing player that will never "get it" and doesn't give max effort all the time.
Boone.
Boone.
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How many rings has Boston won to our 1 since Cashman took over in 1998?
true.
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Just loser shit.
Hal blamed the players for their underperformance during a midseason press conference. Well, who’s picking the players?
I am not sure what kind of pressure you are talking about. Internal or External? External pressure he does feel somewhat (although before this year he had a really friendly media), but there almost no indication that he feels internal pressure from the Steinbrenners. Indeed, it almost seems like Cashman is not a subordinate but basically a proxy for them. Some GMS' have that, like Roseman in Philadelphia, the boss thinks so much of them that all the external pressure is undeniable, but there is not that internal pressure.
Sounds like an owner in East Rutherford I know. Still doesn't inspire confidence.
my bad for not reading entire thread.
I actually know someone who knows Cashman fairly well and the impression I get about Cashman is that he is supremely confident person who is an odd guy and kinds of marches to his own beat, but that still does not mean he does not feel the external pressure to win and the self-legacy pressure. I think Yankee fans would like it if he felt pressure from within the organization, but the Steinbrenners own the team and we don't
The last time his team won the WS he outspent the next team by nearly 70M.
Sure, Boone or a laptop, or a sedated monkey, can manage a baseball team but why would you bring him back after witnessing how Cora has transformed the Sox this year? This team, however flawed, which is not Boone’s fault, nonetheless played a lazy, mistake-filled brand of baseball with zero sense of urgency.
This year better be a wake-up call. They traded Ottavino to the Sox for crying out loud, that’s how arrogant Cashman was. Although I don’t like it, this better means Hal is opening the checkbook.
The extreme focus on analytics by Cashman has netted the Yankees exactly zero World Series wins and zero World Series appearances.
Analytics are important. But it seems like there are organizations out there that use and apply these analytics much better than Cashman and his crew.
Need to see what they do this offseason.
If they spend some money and address second ace, shortstop, catcher, and CF. Maybe there's hope.
In some ways this may be a tank/sell off year. Chappy and Britton could be sold at the deadline for prospects. Same for Gary. If they do that and retool the farm while adding a big name shortstop and starter, I'd be satisfied. It would suck to lose a year of DJ and Judge, but we're not in a great spot. However, we are in a position to be sellers and still have a playoff berth.
Except it says that Boone possesses the baseball acumen to continue to guide them forward. What does that even mean? In the years he has been here, if he does possess it, he hasn't exactly shown it. They've been a failure his entire tenure here.
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Except it says that Boone possesses the baseball acumen to continue to guide them forward. What does that even mean? In the years he has been here, if he does possess it, he hasn't exactly shown it. They've been a failure his entire tenure here.
Back to back 100 win seasons says otherwise, and that happened despite all the injuries and constant rotating door of starting pitching that Aaron Boone has no control over. I get it, no titles, but if winning 100 games is a failure than I'll take it every season.
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Except it says that Boone possesses the baseball acumen to continue to guide them forward. What does that even mean? In the years he has been here, if he does possess it, he hasn't exactly shown it. They've been a failure his entire tenure here.
Back to back 100 win seasons says otherwise, and that happened despite all the injuries and constant rotating door of starting pitching that Aaron Boone has no control over. I get it, no titles, but if winning 100 games is a failure than I'll take it every season.
Not only no titles, but they've been going backwards these past few years as far as going deep into the playoffs. They get eliminated a round sooner every year over these past 3 or so years. They're literally going backwards under Boone.
And I get Cashman plays a huge part, too. Bringing them both back is a massive mistake.
Levine, Fishman, Cashman, Boone, Mendoza, some of the other coaches and several of the major league players need to go.
Instead they'll make the hitting coaches the fall guys, will not move the real player problems, and will finish fourth in the AL East next season despite the highest payroll in the league.
This sucks.
Hal may be as clueless as John Mara. Meanwhile Boston has a Tampa guy at the helm…
The Yankees have won the AL East twice in the past 10 years with at least a top 5 payroll every year. That's quite an accomplishment and Brian Cashman is very proud of it. Today he went in front of his fawning media who treat him like they're interviewing Gandhi or Mandela and told the unwashed masses that this year was his toughest and he doesn't know what happened in 2021 and hasn't figured out if it's a one off or "systemic"
He has figured out that he has no SS, no starting catcher and a problem in CF but until daddy Hal gives him his allowance this winter that's all he can say. Then he launched in a passionate defense of Gary Sanchez and his big heart and how hard he tries and how much he's improved defensively. IMO Gary Sanchez sucks the life of the team and the fan base year after year. IMO the minute he's off the 40 man the Yankees have improved. Call me naive but aren't you supposed to try hard as part of the job? In MLB do you get a medal for trying? Or is doing the right thing and always giving max effort supposed to be how you go about your business as standard practice like I was taught when I was a kid. Trade for a defense first everyday catcher. Contrary to the Cashman media apologists it's not a difficult spot to fill.
This isn't the relatively level NFL playing field. This is uncapped MLB. The Cashman Yankees have proven that no matter how poorly you run your organization that if you spend at the top of the industry you can still make the playoffs while your main rival wins championships, blows it up and starts over and beats you again. It's nothing to be proud of. The Rays can be proud of making the playoffs. They do it against all odds. It's almost impossible for the Yankees not to make the playoffs with their payroll BIG F**KING DEAL.
Don't get me wrong if it was up to me the Yankees would spend 400 million a year on players. Take a look at what MLB teams spend as a percentage of revenue on payroll the past 20 years and you'll see why Boone is right when he says a lot of teams have closed the talent gap on the Yankees. Look at what the Yankees used to spend and what they spend now. Hal has let MLB catch up to the Yankees and pocketed the money he saving as profits.
Cashman rolled out all his best material today you tell he loves the sound of his own voice, basically the greatest hits except big hairy monsters. I didn't hear that one, checks all the boxes and the rest were played during this set. He even put some comedy into the act with some new material. He thinks the Yankees need to make more contact and be more athletic (who could have figured that out - it's why he makes the big bucks) so he addressed that at the trade deadline with Rizzo (more contact - who has 0.0 chance of being a 2022 Yankee) and Gallo (more athletic who strikes out 1 out of 3 PAs and will be a Yankee next year) and told us Luke Voit will be ready for spring training. Oh Joy. More Luke Voit.
No one had the guts or forethought to ask him about why his analytics department would add Gallo to a line up that already strikes out way way too much or why he batted cleanup in the WC game. It's as if Cashman and his laptops evaluate players inside the cone of silence with no regard for how they fit with the rest of the roster.
Back to why I don't care if Boone came back or if he didn't. IMO It changes nothing The Yankees mgr. doesn't build/choose the 40 man roster, he doesn't run player development, he doesn't have much if any input on FAs/trades and none on draft picks or UDFAs, he doesn't decide who gets called up or sent down during the season, he doesn't set the lineup, he doesn't decide who plays where on the field. He just doesn't make any difference at all. Over 162 games whatever pitching change or pinch hitting or pinch running mistakes he makes even out with dumb luck. IMO the Yankees mgr. is meaningless and worthless.
I'm looking forward to another year of watching all the $1000 empty seats behind home plate in that concrete moat Randy Levine built and announced attendance of double the people in the building. Hal, his family and his flunkies do not understand how unlikeable the Yankees have become. Everyone used to hate the Yankees except their own fans. Now half of them hate the Yankees too. They deserve it, there can't be amore tone deaf organization in sports.
And before any of you try to compare the Yankees to any other NYC sports team save it. None of that applies. The Yankees have so many financial advantages they should be crushing MLB.
I would have thought 1 , or 2 years at the most.
Yanks are following the NY Giants ‘model’.
Maybe if you dig up Connie Mack and he owns the team instead of Hal he'd have some authority aside from that? Nada. Zippo. Zilch.
The Yankees biggest star is Brain Cashman, just ask him.
Everyone else is expendable and open for business. He said that today.
Maybe if you dig up Connie Mack and he owns the team instead of Hal he'd have some authority aside from that? Nada. Zippo. Zilch.
The Yankees biggest star is Brain Cashman, just ask him.
Everyone else is expendable and open for business. He said that today.
I'm not in denial about anything. I want both gone. I realize Cashman is the much bigger fish in this equation. That doesn't mean I wouldn't want both guys gone, though.
I do think there's something negative in the Yankee culture with the conformity issues and pressurized clubhouse that has nothing to do with the "tough" fan base or media and everything to with the political animals Hal employs. It would be great to see someone take that on. Clearly Boone is not that guy.
I do think there's something negative in the Yankee culture with the conformity issues and pressurized clubhouse that has nothing to do with the "tough" fan base or media and everything to with the political animals Hal employs. It would be great to see someone take that on. Clearly Boone is not that guy.
Frankly I like the grooming policy. I just do. I do not think it has anything to do with the Yanks winning or losing. It does not prevent players from signing. And it certainly does not prevent them from playing good baseball.
If you think a manager protesting the grooming policy will make the Yankees a better team, I think you just blew what you said above. People come to the Yankees, because they pay well and that is all that matters. A few players still think playing for the Yankees is special.
The Yankees have won the AL East twice in the past 10 years with at least a top 5 payroll every year. That's quite an accomplishment and Brian Cashman is very proud of it. Today he went in front of his fawning media who treat him like they're interviewing Gandhi or Mandela and told the unwashed masses that this year was his toughest and he doesn't know what happened in 2021 and hasn't figured out if it's a one off or "systemic"
He has figured out that he has no SS, no starting catcher and a problem in CF but until daddy Hal gives him his allowance this winter that's all he can say. Then he launched in a passionate defense of Gary Sanchez and his big heart and how hard he tries and how much he's improved defensively. IMO Gary Sanchez sucks the life of the team and the fan base year after year. IMO the minute he's off the 40 man the Yankees have improved. Call me naive but aren't you supposed to try hard as part of the job? In MLB do you get a medal for trying? Or is doing the right thing and always giving max effort supposed to be how you go about your business as standard practice like I was taught when I was a kid. Trade for a defense first everyday catcher. Contrary to the Cashman media apologists it's not a difficult spot to fill.
This isn't the relatively level NFL playing field. This is uncapped MLB. The Cashman Yankees have proven that no matter how poorly you run your organization that if you spend at the top of the industry you can still make the playoffs while your main rival wins championships, blows it up and starts over and beats you again. It's nothing to be proud of. The Rays can be proud of making the playoffs. They do it against all odds. It's almost impossible for the Yankees not to make the playoffs with their payroll BIG F**KING DEAL.
Don't get me wrong if it was up to me the Yankees would spend 400 million a year on players. Take a look at what MLB teams spend as a percentage of revenue on payroll the past 20 years and you'll see why Boone is right when he says a lot of teams have closed the talent gap on the Yankees. Look at what the Yankees used to spend and what they spend now. Hal has let MLB catch up to the Yankees and pocketed the money he saving as profits.
Cashman rolled out all his best material today you tell he loves the sound of his own voice, basically the greatest hits except big hairy monsters. I didn't hear that one, checks all the boxes and the rest were played during this set. He even put some comedy into the act with some new material. He thinks the Yankees need to make more contact and be more athletic (who could have figured that out - it's why he makes the big bucks) so he addressed that at the trade deadline with Rizzo (more contact - who has 0.0 chance of being a 2022 Yankee) and Gallo (more athletic who strikes out 1 out of 3 PAs and will be a Yankee next year) and told us Luke Voit will be ready for spring training. Oh Joy. More Luke Voit.
No one had the guts or forethought to ask him about why his analytics department would add Gallo to a line up that already strikes out way way too much or why he batted cleanup in the WC game. It's as if Cashman and his laptops evaluate players inside the cone of silence with no regard for how they fit with the rest of the roster.
Back to why I don't care if Boone came back or if he didn't. IMO It changes nothing The Yankees mgr. doesn't build/choose the 40 man roster, he doesn't run player development, he doesn't have much if any input on FAs/trades and none on draft picks or UDFAs, he doesn't decide who gets called up or sent down during the season, he doesn't set the lineup, he doesn't decide who plays where on the field. He just doesn't make any difference at all. Over 162 games whatever pitching change or pinch hitting or pinch running mistakes he makes even out with dumb luck. IMO the Yankees mgr. is meaningless and worthless.
I'm looking forward to another year of watching all the $1000 empty seats behind home plate in that concrete moat Randy Levine built and announced attendance of double the people in the building. Hal, his family and his flunkies do not understand how unlikeable the Yankees have become. Everyone used to hate the Yankees except their own fans. Now half of them hate the Yankees too. They deserve it, there can't be amore tone deaf organization in sports.
And before any of you try to compare the Yankees to any other NYC sports team save it. None of that applies. The Yankees have so many financial advantages they should be crushing MLB.
*mic drop*
We know at least Arnie cares, these others just worry more about being right. I really don’t know what they get from putting strangers down on a message board.
We know at least Arnie cares, these others just worry more about being right. I really don’t know what they get from putting strangers down on a message board.
Jim what the heck are you talking about? You just emptied a 10 gauge shotgun of nonsense at everyone. Forget the Giants, they are a different species. Stick to the Yankees. And yeah people on the Giants side only wish to be right and we know who they are. But most Yankees fans have been right. We can see what the problems are. Arniefez catalogued them and they are not different from what everyone has been saying.
Hardly anyone I know wants Boone here and most think while Cashman has done an ok job he has not done a great job and is reason #1 for the Yanks not moving forward. Boone is a good guy and is liked in the clubhouse. But he is not a good manager.
I'm long retired but my work history involved holding people accountable for good and bad work. In NY sports between the Yankees and Giants accountability is missing. On and off the field.
I've tried to find the Yankees thread after opening day in the archives. Does anyone know how to post it?
arniefez : 4/2/2021 9:43 am : link
It's not one game it's more like the 223rd game of the 2019 season.
I scanned the thread yesterday and saw a few people mention how unexcited they were for the season to start. I wonder why.
There were 30 outs yesterday 13 of them were K's, they got 6 hits and were 0-9 with RISP. The only runs they scored were the 1 HR they hit.
It's not one game, this is who this team as assembled will always be.
It's interesting how much of a pass Cashman gets from a lot of the fan base and all of the media. Signing Severino and Hicks for over a 100 million dollars way before he had to and letting Didi leave with no replacement would be a fireable offense on it's own for most GM's.
That post was immediately sh*t all over by the usual suspects. I had already seen enough. No SS, no contact = no playoff wins.
'A lot of heart, care, and effort'...
WTF is this GM watching during the season??
nypost.com/yankees-making-gleyber-torres-gary-sanchez-
From someone like Hal, yes.
Well, his GM has one year left on his deal.
Lets see what happens there, eventually your GM has to win, no?
'A lot of heart, care, and effort'...
WTF is this GM watching during the season??
nypost.com/yankees-making-gleyber-torres-gary-sanchez-
Keep in mind that the Yankees will be shopping Sanchez most likely this offseason and he can't come out and say the truth that Sanchez is a losing player that will never "get it" and doesn't give max effort all the time.