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A Note on How Belichick Treats his Assistants

mittenedman : 10/19/2021 8:48 am
This is a snippet from WEEI from 2/7/18, after McDaniels had scum-baggingly reneged on taking the Colts job:

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The excellent ESPN documentary dubbed The Two Bills includes a moment in which Patriots coach Bill Belichick credits his former mentor, Bill Parcells, with teaching Belichick aspects of the head-coaching job that previously hadn’t been relevant to Belichick’s role as an assistant coach. Belichick apparently will be doing the same for Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels.

Mike Reiss of ESPN, via WEEI.com, reports that Belichick has promised to open the knowledge vault for McDaniels.

“Bill Belichick said to him, ‘I want you to be by my side. I am going to open my world to you,'” Reiss said. “‘Show you how I view roster building, how I look at financials and the salary cap.’ To McDaniels, who is 41 years old, the chance to be with Belichick, arguably the greatest coach of all-time, 65 years old, to have that opportunity was viewed as to be extremely valuable to him.”

The fact that Belichick hadn’t shared that information with McDaniels suggests that maybe he wasn’t ready to be a head coach again. (Nine years ago, he definitely wasn’t ready to be the head coach of the Broncos.) After McDaniels gets a master class from the Patriot Way sensei, McDaniels will be ready.


Sheds some light to why his assistants flop outside the nest. Judge worked for Saban and Belichick. Did they ever give him a peek under the Kimono? Would explain how Judge seems utterly clueless on how to handle adversity. He never had to.
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Judge never handled adversity?  
UConn4523 : 10/19/2021 8:59 am : link
Such weird proclamations about the guy just because things aren't going well.

What about non-Belichick assistants, are they mostly good HC's? If so i must have slept through it. Being a HC is supremely difficult, there's only a handful of good ones. And most guys get their first crack on absolutely dreadful teams.
Wasn't Judge recommended to Mara by Bill?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/19/2021 9:05 am : link
I seem to remember that's how this happened. Mara went to Foxboro to talk to Bill, and was introduced to Judge.
Belichick  
JB_in_DC : 10/19/2021 9:09 am : link
had been giving Judge head coaching lessons for a few years - including the team-building side of things. This was reported when he got the job.

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When Joe Judge was promoted to Patriots special-teams coordinator in 2015, he gained access to an exclusive club that put him on the fast track to becoming the Giants’ head coach.

Every offseason, Patriots coach Bill Belichick conducted tutorials with his coordinators on all aspects of running an NFL team. So in 2015, Judge got a seat alongside offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and then-defensive coordinator Matt Patricia to learn lessons from arguably the greatest coach in NFL history.

“We would just talk about different aspects of building a program, whether it was comparing different organizations or how different teams set up their rosters or how different teams manage their budgets,” Judge told The Athletic. “Five years of doing that with him was really tremendous.”



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This seems like a reach  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/19/2021 9:09 am : link
If you are on staff and you are a sharp guy you should be able to observe everything needed and put the pieces together and apply if given the opportunity as HC.
Quite a fail of a thread premise  
Mad Mike : 10/19/2021 9:12 am : link
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I haven't read the article  
UConn4523 : 10/19/2021 9:13 am : link
but does it go into what McDaniels is paid in Foxboro compared to what he'd get coaching the Lions or Jags?

Everyone really likes "coaching tree" talk and pulls all sorts of theories from in when sometimes the obvious is the correct answer. McDaniels makes a fortune as an OC and is almost guaranteed to go to a worse scenario for what, marginally better pay at best?
McDaniels signed a 4 year $8m contract  
UConn4523 : 10/19/2021 9:15 am : link
to coach the Broncos, he makes upwards of $4m per year as OC of the Patriots. He likely needs an offer well over $5m per year to leave NE. He might even have a handshake deal to be HC after BB leaves too.
The problem with Belichick assistants......none have Tom.Brady  
George from PA : 10/19/2021 9:21 am : link
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Judge NEVER was a HC at anything…  
bw in dc : 10/19/2021 9:22 am : link
before becoming the HC of the NYG.

So I don’t care how much exposure he got to Belichick, which I certainly don’t underestimate, it’s just not the same as when the lights are on and you actually have to manage the team and game. That’s an enormous challenge that isn’t for everyone.

Personally, I just think that takes time to determine if someone has those goods or not. And that may not manifest itself until another stop or two…
One thing this show  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/19/2021 9:23 am : link
did talk about was how BB became the DC. Bill was actually brought to the Giants by Ernie Adams. Perkins hired Adams.

Parcells was the DC before being elevated to HC. I think BB was Special Teams. Bill made him a defensive coach and LT was not happy. He said something like, "He looked like a computer guy". Parcells told LT he will be okay and in fact he was using schemes that BB had given him.

One of the best things Perkins did was leave a great group of assistants for Bill to work and quite a few came from the Patriots.

I think Judge maybe does not have the best staff and for the most part seems to go with comfort hiring's. The ability to put together a elite staff is paramount. It does not always mean selecting big names. Sometimes its evaluating potential of lesser knowns.
There Is No Doubt  
Bernie : 10/19/2021 9:34 am : link
that there is some learning on the job that is occurring with JJ. However, when you are working with talent that would appear to be below average and the constant flow of injuries (especially to players that are supposed to be the foundation of the team) not sure how fair of an evaluation one can make on a coaches performance.

In the end JJ may be another in the long list of BB disciples that fail, but right now I think the biggest issue is personnel and miscalculation on where to spend big.
Sorry, but that sounds like a dick move  
Section331 : 10/19/2021 10:50 am : link
by Belichick, offering his "wisdom" only after McDaniel had accepted a HC job. I guess it worked, and McDaniel will have to decide how much his decision has hurt his future chances at a HC job, but I don't see how this paints BB in a good light.
Walsh was the ultimate HC teacher  
NINEster : 10/19/2021 11:58 am : link
and Parcells is probably #2.

Everyone else is far down the list.

BB is either selfish or unable to create a template of dominance.

I fully expect McDaniels to flame out in his next HC gig  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2021 12:28 pm : link
just like all the other Belichick guys. I thought Flores and Judge were going to change the narrative a bit off their decent first years, but not so much.
I think BB is a very intelligent man  
moespree : 10/19/2021 12:39 pm : link
Who is able to figure things out and adjust on the fly, but does so based on his own thinking and internal intuition. This is what made him a legendary DC and HC.

But, that's also a quality that's not really a teachable thing because that's all based on his own internal thinking and internal intuition. How do you teach your internal thoughts to someone else? You can't.
RE: Sorry, but that sounds like a dick move  
steve in ky : 10/19/2021 12:43 pm : link
In comment 15421087 Section331 said:
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by Belichick, offering his "wisdom" only after McDaniel had accepted a HC job. I guess it worked, and McDaniel will have to decide how much his decision has hurt his future chances at a HC job, but I don't see how this paints BB in a good light.


He probably wanted to hold something back until he himself was in the twilight of his career.
RE: Wasn't Judge recommended to Mara by Bill?  
Red Right Hand : 10/19/2021 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15420847 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I seem to remember that's how this happened. Mara went to Foxboro to talk to Bill, and was introduced to Judge.
No, he wasn't. Mara scouted Judge himself, and it's been covered repeatedly. The ONLY thing we ,know for sure BB said about judge to mara was when JHohn asked is he any good, and Bill replied " better than anyone you have over there. The rest is a fiction you made up. Mara scouted judge himself. and followed him for a couple of years before he even asked BB about him, and Bellichik was not particularly forthcoming.

Mara hiring Judge was not based on a recommendation, was based on his own observations and initiative. Was off his bat, not belichiks, or gettleman, or accorsi, or anyone else.
And mara asked about him  
Red Right Hand : 10/19/2021 4:17 pm : link
before he was introduced. Mara scoped him when they went to look at McDaniels,(or whoever it was they were gonna hire when they picked shurmur) and kept him in mind.
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