JPP & Justin Pugh

In comment 15421226 christian said:

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In comment 15421211 djm said: Quote: The Giants would rather turn their backs on a good player than even think about risking bad PR. We all know it. And it isn't working. You're dead wrong. The Giants extended OBJ when everyone in Manhattan knew he enjoyed nose candy, openly talked shit about ownership, and Shurmur had to fly to LA and ask him pretty please to tone it down.

LT liked his nose candy too. How did that work out? If an organization can't manage a guy like OBJ then that organization is doomed to failure.

In fact, I believe he has been consistently hurt so far in his Cards career and we are only 6 weeks into this season, so we will see.

JPP was a guy who sometimes gave effort and disappeared for long stretches and in big games. He always had talent - the issue is he didn’t always appear to be interested in performing at a high level.

OBJ needed to go and there is no debate that they made a great trade in his case.

Jenkins lost me when he quit on the team a game after his suspension during MacAdoo’s second season. I was surprised he was still on the team the next year. He is a loser, plain and simple.

when it comes to JPP.. because unlike others, he has real good and bad giants history.. But 2 way DE don't play 90% of the plays.. and JPP was forced to do that a lot.. which caused aches and pains which in turn makes it seem like he doesn't care or doesn't give effort..

The solution to that isn't to trade the player its to use him properly.. get proper talent around him.. because let me tell you the truth.. 2 way DEs aren't easy to replace.. live with his antics and fix other, bigger problems.. don't let emotions and locker room antics get in the way.. Bucs don't let it get in their way.. Chiefs, Pitt when Brown and Bell were there, Browns and many others..

All I ask is that we make the decision based on talent and not emotions or locker room garbage.. because its pretty much useless.. and can be easily fixed with bringing in talent..

In comment 15420908 Chris684 said:

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JPP is a personal favorite of mine and his fireworks accident played a significant role in the downfall of this franchise over the last 5+ years but let’s not act like it wasn’t time for both parties to move on.

How was it time for both parties to move on? What the hell does that even mean?

"How was it time for both parties to move on? What the hell does that even mean ". .

I don't think this is rhetorical. I believe the poor soul..
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