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NFT: Who's the best New York team free agent signing ever?

dannysection 313 : 10/19/2021 11:32 am
Not trade for and sign, full fledged free agent.

I must be forgetting many, but Artemi Panarin is the first to come to mind. Money very well spent, he's the real deal and so likeable.

Full disclosure, I am a Mets fan (yes, pray for me), so I don't think through the lenses of a Yankee fan, and they've signed so many free agents over the years, I can't keep track.

The only good ones I can think of for the Giants are Kareem McKenzie and Antonio Pierce?

Others from any New York team?
Without thinking about it, the first name  
Bill in UT : 10/19/2021 11:34 am : link
that popped into my head was Reggie Jackson
Reggie Jackson  
LTIsTheGreatest : 10/19/2021 11:37 am : link
no question
Curtis Martin  
jc in c-ville : 10/19/2021 11:45 am : link
was solid for the Jets for many years.
Plax was a very good NYG FA signing.  
Section331 : 10/19/2021 11:49 am : link
For all of the crap he gets, Carlos Beltran was a great FA signing for NYM, and KD in Brooklyn.
Hard to argue with Reggie.  
Mad Mike : 10/19/2021 11:49 am : link
Very high level play, post-season heroics.
Plax  
cactus : 10/19/2021 11:52 am : link
ico
this might be recency bias but I think it's gotta  
Enzo : 10/19/2021 11:54 am : link
be Kevin Durant. He'll end up as one of the top 10 players in the history of the league and is still playing at an all-nba level. I don't think you can find a player in his respective sport at a similar level who came to NY via free agency.

Honorable mention to Mike Mussina, Reggie, Plaxico, Beltran, Dave Winfield, Panarin, Curtis Martin, Kevin Mawae, and a bunch of others I'm definitely overlooking.
......  
Route 9 : 10/19/2021 11:54 am : link
Herman Moore
......  
Route 9 : 10/19/2021 11:58 am : link
Adam Graves, Plaxico, Mike Mussina
CC, EL Duque  
Really : 10/19/2021 12:03 pm : link
Kevin Durant
RE: CC, EL Duque  
Enzo : 10/19/2021 12:08 pm : link
In comment 15421233 Really said:
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Kevin Durant

El Duque is a good one. I'll add Tanaka.

And Kuroda gets overlooked as a very good signing who gave them 3 good years.
where's  
Pork Chop : 10/19/2021 12:09 pm : link
dre at?
RE: Plax was a very good NYG FA signing.  
steve in ky : 10/19/2021 12:10 pm : link
In comment 15421192 Section331 said:
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For all of the crap he gets, Carlos Beltran was a great FA signing for NYM, and KD in Brooklyn.


The jury is probably still out on KD
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/19/2021 12:10 pm : link
Amare for like 2 months.
Plax and Reggie both were keys to championships  
steve in ky : 10/19/2021 12:11 pm : link
but Reggie Jackson has to be the best
Maybe a technicality  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2021 12:12 pm : link
but Victor Cruz should make any list of best NY free agent signings.
RE: RE: Plax was a very good NYG FA signing.  
Section331 : 10/19/2021 12:19 pm : link
In comment 15421252 steve in ky said:
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The jury is probably still out on KD


That's fair, with the "if he can stay healthy" qualifier.
RE: ...  
mfsd : 10/19/2021 12:19 pm : link
In comment 15421253 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Amare for like 2 months.


Haha and what a 2 months they were. MVP chants nightly

I vote for Reggie too. Graves is a also good call
RE: Plax and Reggie both were keys to championships  
Section331 : 10/19/2021 12:22 pm : link
In comment 15421260 steve in ky said:
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but Reggie Jackson has to be the best


I'm a Mets fan, but yeah, I'd have to agree that Reggie is the best of the bunch.
Kareem McKenzie  
truebluelarry : 10/19/2021 12:23 pm : link
was a great one for the Giants.
He blocked for multiple 1,000 rushers and started in two Super Bowl victories.
RE: RE: Plax was a very good NYG FA signing.  
TyreeHelmet : 10/19/2021 12:28 pm : link
In comment 15421252 steve in ky said:
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For all of the crap he gets, Carlos Beltran was a great FA signing for NYM, and KD in Brooklyn.



The jury is probably still out on KD


To be able to acquire a top 3 current NBA player and easily top 15 all time player via free agency is simply incredible. Jury is in on that one.
A lot to choose from  
ShockNRoll : 10/19/2021 12:30 pm : link
Keep in mind I was born in '84, so there is a lot of recency in my answers:

Burress, Pierce, McKenzie, Collins, O'Hara, Rolle for the Giants. Panarin, Nylander, Graves for the Rangers. Sabathia, Teixeira, Mussina, Lemahieu for the Yankees. There are probably others I can't think of off the top of my head...

As far as picking the single best? I'm not sure I can do that. It's too early to say Panarin, my vote would be either Sabathia or Graves given the sustained success they had with the team.
RE: RE: Plax and Reggie both were keys to championships  
steve in ky : 10/19/2021 12:33 pm : link
In comment 15421283 Section331 said:
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but Reggie Jackson has to be the best



I'm a Mets fan, but yeah, I'd have to agree that Reggie is the best of the bunch.


I'm a Mets fans as well, but Reggie is the clear winner IMO
Yep Reggie #1  
Stu11 : 10/19/2021 12:46 pm : link
And Plax #2
Reggie delivered 2 rings and 3 WS trips in 5 seasons here. Watching a YouTube video of all of Eli's career TD passes it was unbelievable how many of them were to Plax and he was only here a little over 3 and a half seasons. Both players were brought here to deliver championships and both didn't disappoint (well until Plax literally shot himself)
Reggie....  
rnargi : 10/19/2021 1:08 pm : link
......
Carlos Beltran...  
moze1021 : 10/19/2021 1:11 pm : link
is first that came to my mind as a Mets fan...

Plax for Giants makes sense..

For Knicks: Allan Houston is first that popped into my mind and haven't seen him mentioned here yet..

Not a big hockey follower  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/19/2021 1:32 pm : link
But Mark Messier seems like he was a big deal to the Rangers who had not won a cup in decades. He had the "guarantee".
Mussina came to me immediately  
robbieballs2003 : 10/19/2021 1:38 pm : link
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RE: Not a big hockey follower  
Mad Mike : 10/19/2021 1:41 pm : link
In comment 15421503 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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But Mark Messier seems like he was a big deal to the Rangers who had not won a cup in decades. He had the "guarantee".

Not a free agent.
Thanks Mad Mike  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/19/2021 1:49 pm : link
I guess I showed I was not a big hockey follower!
RE: Thanks Mad Mike  
Mad Mike : 10/19/2021 2:18 pm : link
In comment 15421536 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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I guess I showed I was not a big hockey follower!

Certainly way up there among all-time best acquisitions though.
Hell no on mr. almost Mike Mussina  
arniefez : 10/19/2021 2:21 pm : link
You could make a case for Catfish. You could make a case for Goose. But I agree it took me 2 seconds without much debate that it's Reggie.
Mike Piazza was a trade or FA?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/19/2021 2:26 pm : link
for the Giants it's McKenzie.
RE: Mike Piazza was a trade or FA?  
JB_in_DC : 10/19/2021 2:28 pm : link
In comment 15421599 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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for the Giants it's McKenzie.


Piazza came via trade from with Marlins.
Don't know if he is the best, but the most underrated  
moespree : 10/19/2021 2:31 pm : link
Is Kareem McKenzie. To me he is an all time NY Giants offensive lineman. Dependable, disciplined, part of championship teams and never had to worry.
I mentioned him above  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2021 2:39 pm : link
and when you factor in $$$ I don't see how anyone is significantly better than Victor Cruz.

Almost all the other names were paid highly and Cruz was as impactful on a championship as any of them (or close).
RE: Hell no on mr. almost Mike Mussina  
Section331 : 10/19/2021 2:42 pm : link
In comment 15421590 arniefez said:
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You could make a case for Catfish. You could make a case for Goose. But I agree it took me 2 seconds without much debate that it's Reggie.


I was going to mention Catfish. He opened the floodgates for FA, and had a solid career with the Yankees.
Reggie  
Producer : 10/19/2021 2:42 pm : link
no doubt
RE: I mentioned him above  
Section331 : 10/19/2021 2:43 pm : link
In comment 15421621 pjcas18 said:
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and when you factor in $$$ I don't see how anyone is significantly better than Victor Cruz.

Almost all the other names were paid highly and Cruz was as impactful on a championship as any of them (or close).


You're right, it's hard to top VC, but I think most aren't considering UDFA's. Not sure why.
Quality signings that led to good teams...  
whozzat : 10/19/2021 2:54 pm : link

Ron Stone
Michael Barrow
Jeff Feagles

Scott Brosius
Matsui

Andrew Miller had a tasty (and inexpensive) cup of coffee with the yanks

Anthony Mason
RE: Kareem McKenzie  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2021 3:06 pm : link
In comment 15421289 truebluelarry said:
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was a great one for the Giants.
He blocked for multiple 1,000 rushers and started in two Super Bowl victories.


Kareem is actually who came to mind first for me as well. Reggie and Plax are up there for sure. Was Messier a free agent signing?

How about the original himself: Catfish Hunter.
Not the best, but not mentioned: Jimmy Key  
mikeinbloomfield : 10/19/2021 3:13 pm : link
Reggie's probably number 1, but I never liked him all that much after he said that crap about my hero, Thurman Munson. A indifferent fielder, at best.

Didn't see Kerry Collins yet. Hot and cold, but after the clown car of QBs we had in the 90s some semblance of competence at the position was eye opening. And was just sitting around waiting for a call.

RE: Not the best, but not mentioned: Jimmy Key  
ShockNRoll : 10/19/2021 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15421660 mikeinbloomfield said:
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Reggie's probably number 1, but I never liked him all that much after he said that crap about my hero, Thurman Munson. A indifferent fielder, at best.

Didn't see Kerry Collins yet. Hot and cold, but after the clown car of QBs we had in the 90s some semblance of competence at the position was eye opening. And was just sitting around waiting for a call.


I said Collins earlier. He had some very good years here, and if you can sign a QB as a free agent and he can take you to a Super Bowl (even if his Super Bowl performance is one of the worst in NFL history), that's enough to warrant mentioning on this list. I actually own 2 Kerry Collins jerseys!
RE: Kareem McKenzie  
section125 : 10/19/2021 3:36 pm : link
In comment 15421289 truebluelarry said:
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was a great one for the Giants.
He blocked for multiple 1,000 rushers and started in two Super Bowl victories.


1st name that came to my mind was Kareem.

Have to put Reggie Jackson up there, too.

So there - two Reggies.
it's every sport right?  
BillKo : 10/19/2021 3:43 pm : link
I immediately thought of Reginald Martinez Jackson.

RE: RE: I mentioned him above  
moze1021 : 10/19/2021 3:44 pm : link
In comment 15421629 Section331 said:
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and when you factor in $$$ I don't see how anyone is significantly better than Victor Cruz.

Almost all the other names were paid highly and Cruz was as impactful on a championship as any of them (or close).



You're right, it's hard to top VC, but I think most aren't considering UDFA's. Not sure why.


Well... if you are going to include UDFAs... then maybe you have to say the Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle are the best, right?


I think most in this thread are thinking of signing a Free Agent who has already started a professional career and is changing teams...

RE: RE: Kareem McKenzie  
Section331 : 10/19/2021 3:45 pm : link
In comment 15421690 section125 said:
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was a great one for the Giants.
He blocked for multiple 1,000 rushers and started in two Super Bowl victories.



1st name that came to my mind was Kareem.

Have to put Reggie Jackson up there, too.

So there - two Reggies.


You might be onto something, we should only sign guys named Reggie!
RE: RE: Not the best, but not mentioned: Jimmy Key  
Section331 : 10/19/2021 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15421680 ShockNRoll said:
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I said Collins earlier. He had some very good years here, and if you can sign a QB as a free agent and he can take you to a Super Bowl (even if his Super Bowl performance is one of the worst in NFL history), that's enough to warrant mentioning on this list. I actually own 2 Kerry Collins jerseys!


Yeah, KC is ddefinitely on the list. For all of his flaws, he solidified the QB position for a few years. And we'll always have his 41-0!
Pele signed with the N Y Cosmos in 1975 and lead them to a NASL  
Ira : 10/19/2021 3:48 pm : link
championship in 1977.
other undrafted free agent types:  
Enzo : 10/19/2021 3:48 pm : link
Dan Girardi, Mats Zuccarello, John Starks, Anthony Mason, Alfonso Soriano, Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera.
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pjcas18 : 10/19/2021 3:53 pm : link
In comment 15421714 moze1021 said:
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and when you factor in $$$ I don't see how anyone is significantly better than Victor Cruz.

Almost all the other names were paid highly and Cruz was as impactful on a championship as any of them (or close).



You're right, it's hard to top VC, but I think most aren't considering UDFA's. Not sure why.



Well... if you are going to include UDFAs... then maybe you have to say the Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle are the best, right?


I think most in this thread are thinking of signing a Free Agent who has already started a professional career and is changing teams...


Mantle and Mays signed as free agents when everyone was signed as a free agent, IOW before there was an amateur draft.

Cruz is not similar to them. Don't want to include UDFA, that's fine, but equating him to Mantle and Mays is a stretch.

Reggie is a great choice  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 10/19/2021 4:03 pm : link
Goose Gossage was another great one from that era for the Yanks. He might be the 2nd best reliever ever.

I know his last years weren’t great but CC was my favorite FA signing of this era imo. He was a true workhorse in his prime and was one of the keys to winning in ‘09 during his first year here.
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moze1021 : 10/19/2021 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15421735 pjcas18 said:
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and when you factor in $$$ I don't see how anyone is significantly better than Victor Cruz.

Almost all the other names were paid highly and Cruz was as impactful on a championship as any of them (or close).



You're right, it's hard to top VC, but I think most aren't considering UDFA's. Not sure why.



Well... if you are going to include UDFAs... then maybe you have to say the Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle are the best, right?


I think most in this thread are thinking of signing a Free Agent who has already started a professional career and is changing teams...




Mantle and Mays signed as free agents when everyone was signed as a free agent, IOW before there was an amateur draft.

Cruz is not similar to them. Don't want to include UDFA, that's fine, but equating him to Mantle and Mays is a stretch.


OK... then Mariano Rivera...

;)

So the rule for the thread is... a guy who was eligible for a draft at some point and then ultimately signed as a free agent... that would make Victor Cruz apply and not Mo, Mantle, Mays...

Haha
I meant players with time in the league coming from another team....  
dannysection 313 : 10/19/2021 4:25 pm : link
Just to clarify...

Can't believe I forgot Plax...

2008..ugggg
If Kevin Durant is in the discussion  
JohnF : 10/19/2021 6:01 pm : link
why not Wayne Gretsky (NY Rangers FA 1996-1999). No, he didn't win a championship in NY, but Wayne was one of the greatest hockey players ever!
RE: If Kevin Durant is in the discussion  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/19/2021 7:05 pm : link
In comment 15421983 JohnF said:
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why not Wayne Gretsky (NY Rangers FA 1996-1999). No, he didn't win a championship in NY, but Wayne was one of the greatest hockey players ever!

Because Gretzky was well past his prime. Still a good player and had dazzling moments. But not one of the top handful in the league anymore. Which Durant is.
Pedro was actually a huge Mets signing despite being past prime...  
moze1021 : 10/19/2021 8:17 pm : link
..legitimized the team...

If not for Duaner's accident and Pedro hurting his hip in '06, we'd be celebrating the 15th anniversary of a Mets 'ship..
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