I gotta hand it to Cashman. He has a knack for talking for about 10 minutes without actually answering a question when asked. The one thing he was brutally honest about was when asked about shortstop. Said it is something that needs to be addressed this winter. That Gleyber Torres is better off at 2nd base(which has been obvious all season). When asked about Sanchez, he only said "We'll see. I'm proud of how far he has come defensively" Is he nuts? What games was he watching? If Sanchez is brought back for another season I think I'll puke!!!!
This.
Considering all the injuries we saw last year, I'm fine with a 5 man infield if we bring in Seager/Correa and also keep Voit or another 1b. (I love Rizzo but don't think we will afford him or want to commit money to him given his age.)
It's too bad Frazier is messed up, because we maybe could have used a combo of Frazier/Judge as the backup CF to the inevitable Hicks injury. Can we trust Wade to play CF during the Hicks injuries?
Considering all the injuries we saw last year, I'm fine with a 5 man infield if we bring in Seager/Correa and also keep Voit or another 1b. (I love Rizzo but don't think we will afford him or want to commit money to him given his age.)
It's too bad Frazier is messed up, because we maybe could have used a combo of Frazier/Judge as the backup CF to the inevitable Hicks injury. Can we trust Wade to play CF during the Hicks injuries?
Id love to jettison Hicks. Easily one of my least liked players on this team.
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doesn't get back to 2019/2020 levels that contract is going to be bad.
Considering all the injuries we saw last year, I'm fine with a 5 man infield if we bring in Seager/Correa and also keep Voit or another 1b. (I love Rizzo but don't think we will afford him or want to commit money to him given his age.)
It's too bad Frazier is messed up, because we maybe could have used a combo of Frazier/Judge as the backup CF to the inevitable Hicks injury. Can we trust Wade to play CF during the Hicks injuries?
Id love to jettison Hicks. Easily one of my least liked players on this team.
In the words of Junior Soprano, I wanna fuck Angie Dickinson, let's see who gets lucky first. I think we have to live with the assumption that Hicks is on this roster.
Considering all the injuries we saw last year, I'm fine with a 5 man infield if we bring in Seager/Correa and also keep Voit or another 1b. (I love Rizzo but don't think we will afford him or want to commit money to him given his age.)
It's too bad Frazier is messed up, because we maybe could have used a combo of Frazier/Judge as the backup CF to the inevitable Hicks injury. Can we trust Wade to play CF during the Hicks injuries?
I'm still convinced Frazier needs another shot. He had a brutal year but that bat is too good to give up on. If he is healthy or not is another question though...
I don't have a problem with a .700 flat OPS Urshela getting 400-500 ABs, but I also don't have a problem if it's only 200-300 ABs and late inning defensive work.
First order of business, find the shortstop if that's the goal. That pushes DJLM to 1B.
Next, if you see a Rizzo or another 1B that makes a lot of sense (at the right price...I'm not a fan of Rizzo at $15M for several years...), don't be stopped by DJLM. Slide him to 3B.
If Gio gets pushed to the bench, that's high quality depth.
Not to mention, we know as well as anyone that injuries happen. Not having to play an Andrew Velasquez for a 20-30 game stretch is a big win.
Additionally, the evidence seems clear as day to me that Giancarlo Stanton is a different ballplayer when he's playing the outfield with regularity. They should plan to be playing him in the outfield at LEAST 4-5 days per week.
With the DH slot not occupied by a full-timer, the pieces get a lot easier to move around on the day to day, balancing the plate appearances, and getting guys a good mix of work and rest.
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doesn't get back to 2019/2020 levels that contract is going to be bad.
Considering all the injuries we saw last year, I'm fine with a 5 man infield if we bring in Seager/Correa and also keep Voit or another 1b. (I love Rizzo but don't think we will afford him or want to commit money to him given his age.)
It's too bad Frazier is messed up, because we maybe could have used a combo of Frazier/Judge as the backup CF to the inevitable Hicks injury. Can we trust Wade to play CF during the Hicks injuries?
Id love to jettison Hicks. Easily one of my least liked players on this team.
In the words of Junior Soprano, I wanna fuck Angie Dickinson, let's see who gets lucky first. I think we have to live with the assumption that Hicks is on this roster.
You would have to eat money to move the injury-proned Hicks.
No one is going to signup for 4/40 at this point, unless they were to find a sucker (doubtful).
Considering all the injuries we saw last year, I'm fine with a 5 man infield if we bring in Seager/Correa and also keep Voit or another 1b. (I love Rizzo but don't think we will afford him or want to commit money to him given his age.)
It's too bad Frazier is messed up, because we maybe could have used a combo of Frazier/Judge as the backup CF to the inevitable Hicks injury. Can we trust Wade to play CF during the Hicks injuries?
True 'dat on DJ. Never would have given him a 6 year deal!
I would not have given him more than 4 years, they did it
for the AAV, but it's still 6 years. He better come back strong, had an awful year with RISP, and especially with a
runner on 3B and less than 2 out, just brutal there!
have had a change of heart. He continues to be injury prone every year.
Correa has stayed healthy the last two years, and is better defensively.
With Scherzer's age, you are looking at most likely a
3 year deal at most.
He struck out at a 25% clip and walked less than 5%.
This season, he was part of the problem insofar as the offensive side of the equation is concerned.
If we were to simply take the approach of relying on some combination of Gleyber and DJLM and Gio bouncing back to what may have been career peaks not to be seen again....we'd really be asking for it.
He's got almost no range and seems to have difficulty tracking fly balls now. Before he got hurt this time fly balls were falling all around him while he was jogging toward them both in front of him and over his head. He can't throw anymore and he's a terrible hitter LH and barely average RH who would take on even 5 million a year for 4 years?
Why don't we ship them Cashman and Boone so they can have the same fun Yankee fans have been having?
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personally I hate it, don't really understand the appeal. Its why I've enjoyed this team despite all the struggles during their luxury tax era.
Ask the Dodgers. I am sure they are having no fun at all making 6 NLCS's in the last 9 seasons and 3 WS in the last 4 seasons and knocking off the team with the best record in baseball in the NLDS this season.
Why don't we ship them Cashman and Boone so they can have the same fun Yankee fans have been having?
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personally I hate it, don't really understand the appeal. Its why I've enjoyed this team despite all the struggles during their luxury tax era.
Ask the Dodgers. I am sure they are having no fun at all making 6 NLCS's in the last 9 seasons and 3 WS in the last 4 seasons and knocking off the team with the best record in baseball in the NLDS this season.
Why don't we ship them Cashman and Boone so they can have the same fun Yankee fans have been having?
And despite spending even more money than the Yankees all they have to show for it in the last 30 years is one asterisked World Series. I'll take the Yankees. I'll also take Cashman. Cashman didn't flush $35 million down the toilet for a sexual degenerate.
No but he kept on German and Aroldis, so it's not like Cashman is a moral pillar for only having players that treat women right.
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personally I hate it, don't really understand the appeal. Its why I've enjoyed this team despite all the struggles during their luxury tax era.
Ask the Dodgers. I am sure they are having no fun at all making 6 NLCS's in the last 9 seasons and 3 WS in the last 4 seasons and knocking off the team with the best record in baseball in the NLDS this season.
Why don't we ship them Cashman and Boone so they can have the same fun Yankee fans have been having?
And despite spending even more money than the Yankees all they have to show for it in the last 30 years is one asterisked World Series. I'll take the Yankees. I'll also take Cashman. Cashman didn't flush $35 million down the toilet for a sexual degenerate.
No but he kept on German and Aroldis, so it's not like Cashman is a moral pillar for only having players that treat women right.
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personally I hate it, don't really understand the appeal. Its why I've enjoyed this team despite all the struggles during their luxury tax era.
Ask the Dodgers. I am sure they are having no fun at all making 6 NLCS's in the last 9 seasons and 3 WS in the last 4 seasons and knocking off the team with the best record in baseball in the NLDS this season.
Why don't we ship them Cashman and Boone so they can have the same fun Yankee fans have been having?
And despite spending even more money than the Yankees all they have to show for it in the last 30 years is one asterisked World Series. I'll take the Yankees. I'll also take Cashman. Cashman didn't flush $35 million down the toilet for a sexual degenerate.
No but he kept on German and Aroldis, so it's not like Cashman is a moral pillar for only having players that treat women right.
You're comparing what Chapman are German did to Trevor Bauer ? Are you an idiot ?
I'm not substantively responding to this. I'm just going to assume you read what I wrote quickly and didn't think twice about your response.
what are your preferences?
I'd use that budget on defensive and/or contact players. A new starting catcher, a new starting CF, maybe corner IF trades involving Torres and/or Gio for LH bats, maybe more pitching. I would also make sure that Andjuar, Frazier, Voit and Sanchez and any other non essential terrible fielding non contact hitters are not at spring training. The make up of this team needs to change dramatically. The GM said so but talk is cheap.
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personally I hate it, don't really understand the appeal. Its why I've enjoyed this team despite all the struggles during their luxury tax era.
Ask the Dodgers. I am sure they are having no fun at all making 6 NLCS's in the last 9 seasons and 3 WS in the last 4 seasons and knocking off the team with the best record in baseball in the NLDS this season.
Why don't we ship them Cashman and Boone so they can have the same fun Yankee fans have been having?
And despite spending even more money than the Yankees all they have to show for it in the last 30 years is one asterisked World Series. I'll take the Yankees. I'll also take Cashman. Cashman didn't flush $35 million down the toilet for a sexual degenerate.
No but he kept on German and Aroldis, so it's not like Cashman is a moral pillar for only having players that treat women right.
You're comparing what Chapman are German did to Trevor Bauer ? Are you an idiot ?
I'm not substantively responding to this. I'm just going to assume you read what I wrote quickly and didn't think twice about your response.
I make no apologies for my comments. What Aroldis Chapman and Domingo German did was repugnant and unacceptable. Both were penalized, German quite severely. Hopefully they have dealt with their anger management issues and can move on with their baseball careers and their lives without further incident.
What they did, however is not in even in the same league as Bauer. Trevor Bauer is a monster who derives sexual pleasure out of beating women half to death. When he beat up that poor woman twice ( and by some accounts other women ) it wasn't a quick act of passion or anger, it was a deliberate prolonged display of sexual violence. He probably should be locked up and he will certainly never play another inning of professional baseball.
If you can't tell the difference between German/Chapman and Bauer, then there is something seriously wrong with your moral compass
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personally I hate it, don't really understand the appeal. Its why I've enjoyed this team despite all the struggles during their luxury tax era.
Ask the Dodgers. I am sure they are having no fun at all making 6 NLCS's in the last 9 seasons and 3 WS in the last 4 seasons and knocking off the team with the best record in baseball in the NLDS this season.
Why don't we ship them Cashman and Boone so they can have the same fun Yankee fans have been having?
And despite spending even more money than the Yankees all they have to show for it in the last 30 years is one asterisked World Series. I'll take the Yankees. I'll also take Cashman. Cashman didn't flush $35 million down the toilet for a sexual degenerate.
No but he kept on German and Aroldis, so it's not like Cashman is a moral pillar for only having players that treat women right.
You're comparing what Chapman are German did to Trevor Bauer ? Are you an idiot ?
I'm not substantively responding to this. I'm just going to assume you read what I wrote quickly and didn't think twice about your response.
I make no apologies for my comments. What Aroldis Chapman and Domingo German did was repugnant and unacceptable. Both were penalized, German quite severely. Hopefully they have dealt with their anger management issues and can move on with their baseball careers and their lives without further incident.
What they did, however is not in even in the same league as Bauer. Trevor Bauer is a monster who derives sexual pleasure out of beating women half to death. When he beat up that poor woman twice ( and by some accounts other women ) it wasn't a quick act of passion or anger, it was a deliberate prolonged display of sexual violence. He probably should be locked up and he will certainly never play another inning of professional baseball.
If you can't tell the difference between German/Chapman and Bauer, then there is something seriously wrong with your moral compass
I never said there is not a difference between German/Chapman and Bauer. You also seem a bit dismissive of what German and Chapman did, but I'll leave that up to you and your own moral compass.
have had a change of heart. He continues to be injury prone every year.
Correa has stayed healthy the last two years, and is better defensively.
With Scherzer's age, you are looking at most likely a
3 year deal at most.
I agree on Correa. He's the best SS on the market. Forget Scherzer. He made it clear before the trade deadline he wants no part of NY. I expect him to resign with the Dodgers.
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personally I hate it, don't really understand the appeal. Its why I've enjoyed this team despite all the struggles during their luxury tax era.
Ask the Dodgers. I am sure they are having no fun at all making 6 NLCS's in the last 9 seasons and 3 WS in the last 4 seasons and knocking off the team with the best record in baseball in the NLDS this season.
Why don't we ship them Cashman and Boone so they can have the same fun Yankee fans have been having?
I don't need to ask the Dodgers, I'm asking myself and other Yankee fans who rooted for them when they were buying championships.
Its not about whether winning is fun, its about how you are winning. I thought that was obvious but I guess that flew right over your head.
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personally I hate it, don't really understand the appeal. Its why I've enjoyed this team despite all the struggles during their luxury tax era.
Ask the Dodgers. I am sure they are having no fun at all making 6 NLCS's in the last 9 seasons and 3 WS in the last 4 seasons and knocking off the team with the best record in baseball in the NLDS this season.
Why don't we ship them Cashman and Boone so they can have the same fun Yankee fans have been having?
I don't need to ask the Dodgers, I'm asking myself and other Yankee fans who rooted for them when they were buying championships.
Its not about whether winning is fun, its about how you are winning. I thought that was obvious but I guess that flew right over your head.
You have repeated this time and time again. You chose to be a Yankees fan. Probably not the best choice for a guy that obviously prefers the route of the Minnesota Twins. The Yankees will always spend more than most teams. And they did whenever you chose your fandom. And as we can all attest to, there is no such thing as “buying a championship”. It’s simply not that easy. And you can blow off what the Dodgers have done all you want. They are the best run franchise in baseball and also happen to spend more money than anyone in baseball. They always get a pass for that spending for some reason but that’s a different topic.
Bottom line is, you should have chosen to be a Twins fan. Or another cheap ass floundering team that likes to take the revenue sharing and put it in the owners pocket. No “buying championships” there.
This is also the first thread the entire season I’ve even talked about this so “time and time again” is such an exaggeration. It’s pales in comparison to all the bitching on every yankee game day thread from game 1 to 163. And I asked a harmless question anyway, really not a big deal.
This is also the first thread the entire season I’ve even talked about this so “time and time again” is such an exaggeration. It’s pales in comparison to all the bitching on every yankee game day thread from game 1 to 163. And I asked a harmless question anyway, really not a big deal.
Who cares how much the Yankees spend? For all the shit baseball gets about no salary cap, they have had like 10 different teams win in the past 12 years?
For all the money the Yankees spend, they have one WS win in the past 20 years. They haven't really bought anything. You can argue that maybe they shouldn't spend big.
But I'd rather see the team spend to try and win than act like he Mets under the Wilpons.
That 2017 team was fun because they blew away expectations, but I won't revere them over a 2022 team that has a payroll of $300 million and finally wins a WS. Winning is hard, appreciate it when it happens no matter the circumstances.
You can buy a spot in the playoffs almost every year if you're 1st or 2nd in payroll almost every year for 16 years. Brian Cashman is proof of that.
It makes me laugh when his "peers" in MLB and friends in the media fawn over the amazing job he's been doing with all that money for all those years. I'm sure they're all very grateful he's still in charge trying to figure out how to copy the smart teams before it's too late, since he hasn't caught up yet.
I just don't understand your POV about buying championships (plural) because they have 1 championship since 2009. Do you consider 96-2000 bought?
I guess you can consider 2009 bought since they had the highest payroll and they signed CC, Burnett, and Tex. They still had a pretty decent homegrown core: Posada, Jeter, Cano, Melky, Gardner, Pettitte. That was back when Joba and Hughes were promising as well.
But that strategy has literally worked once in 20 years. Generally speaking, the teams that spend money win, most of the WS winners in the past decade have been top 10 in payroll.
I tip my cap to the Rays for being ultra competitive while self-imposing a spending cap for no reason. But they still haven't won anything for that. You can make the argument that if they spent some money, they would have a better shot at winning.
Same with Gio. Gio had knee issues he played through as best he could and then had the hammy.
No more signing of oft injured players - leave Seager out of it. I like Correa better - if the Yanks can handle having one of the "cheaters". Or, Maybe the Blue Jay Siemen.
What about just saying screw it and bringing Peraza straight up from the minors with Velazquez as a backup?
To me, wins and championships feel cheapened when you have the top payroll, or 3 NBA all stars on the same team. It just isn't very compelling for me. The 2009 Yankees spend something like $50m more than the next closest team. Hooray!
But its really not that big a deal, nothing to get up in arms over. I'm not shitting on anyone who think the opposite of me, its just something I don't find to be as fun or interesting.
To me, wins and championships feel cheapened when you have the top payroll, or 3 NBA all stars on the same team. It just isn't very compelling for me. The 2009 Yankees spend something like $50m more than the next closest team. Hooray!
But its really not that big a deal, nothing to get up in arms over. I'm not shitting on anyone who think the opposite of me, its just something I don't find to be as fun or interesting.
That's fair, I was just trying to understand the viewpoint a little more. I think most opposing fans that hate the Yankees wish their owner spent more money trying to win. The red Sox certainly shut up with their evil empire crap after their spending skyrocketed. If Steve Cohen spends a shit ton of money this off-season, Mets fans will stop complaining about the Yankees spending habits.
MLB is weird, every team makes a ton of money, yet half the league doesn't spend because 'they are broke' which leaves only a handful of teams actively trying to improve their team through free agency.
Well, if you remember when DJL was signed,Cashman said he was going to be a Jack of All Trades,playing numerous positions throughout the season.Now,obviously,that never came to pass & the most prudent thing would probably be to move Gleyber in a trade. However,his trade value is not very high right now,so he'd only be part of a package. I've seen the Olson for Gleyber,Voit &??? rumors,I'm sure on the Yankees end they'd make it,not sure the A's would.Again,anything that happens this off season is predicated on Hal opening up his wallet & the jury is still out on that!
It really blows Andujar got injured and derailed. He may be a butcher compared to Urshela, but penciling him for 25HR and 50 doubles a year would've been huge.
Imagine if Tucker and Alvarez also bombed for the Astros, we just had terrible luck with Andujar, Frazier, and maybe Torres. Sanchez, well, he's on another level of suck and his problem isn't injury-related.