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larryflower37 : 10/22/2021 1:47 pm
Noel and Taj out again expecting more small ball tonight.
This could definitely be a trap game for the Knicks Orlando with a feisty young roster and we get our first look at Jalen Suggs and Franz Wagner.

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Lakers imploding  
larryflower37 : 10/22/2021 11:33 pm : link
AD going after Dwight during a timeout.
RE: Lakers imploding  
dpinzow : 10/22/2021 11:41 pm : link
In comment 15425510 larryflower37 said:
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AD going after Dwight during a timeout.


Dwight will probably be looking for another team tomorrow
RE: This team is very deep  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/22/2021 11:44 pm : link
In comment 15425488 Mark from Jersey said:
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at the moment. The question is do you keep the depth or do you trade for a star? Will be a very interesting season to say the least.

That’s not even a question. If you can get a true superstar, you get him.
Woj: Nets have listened to trade offers for Kyrie  
dpinzow : 10/22/2021 11:45 pm : link
actually reported before the first game of the ESPN doubleheader this evening
Kyrie for Simmons  
GNewGiants : 10/22/2021 11:46 pm : link
Lol
RE: Kyrie for Simmons  
dpinzow : 10/22/2021 11:48 pm : link
In comment 15425518 GNewGiants said:
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Lol


Believe it or not, there aren't any Kyrie for Ben Simmons talks ongoing
Lakers just getting humiliated by the Suns  
dpinzow : 10/22/2021 11:52 pm : link
at Staples
RE: RE: Kyrie for Simmons  
ajr2456 : 10/23/2021 12:01 am : link
In comment 15425520 dpinzow said:
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Lol



Believe it or not, there aren't any Kyrie for Ben Simmons talks ongoing


Because I think Ben is also unvaccinated
This team is very good guys  
ajr2456 : 10/23/2021 12:01 am : link
Going to be a fun year.
Is father time catching up to LeBron  
xman : 10/23/2021 12:14 am : link
2 rebounds?
crazy stat they mentioned on the Laker game earlier  
Leg of Theismann : 10/23/2021 12:50 am : link
Since the 2014-15 season, no one has held their opponent to a lower shooting % than KD. KD is #1 and AD is #2. And obviously since that's a percentage stat it's not like players who came into the league after 2014 are at a disadvantage or something. That's just crazy to me-- for all people talk about KD not being a great defensive player, he's extremely underrated in that area. Amazing stat considering he's been most certainly the best offensive player in the league since that time as well (not going by stats on that latter one just general logic).
Not surprising with the Lakers  
nygiants16 : 10/23/2021 7:39 am : link
you got 3 "stars" who dont fit together whatsoever, you have an old bench that cant hold up their end of the bargain
RE: This team is very good guys  
Del Shofner : 10/23/2021 8:24 am : link
In comment 15425524 ajr2456 said:
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Going to be a fun year.


I'm enjoying the no-superstars-14 players deep approach. All alone in 1st place in the division (OK, 2-0, lol)! I like that J. Sims is contributing already with Noel and Taj out. I think all three rookies will make it in the NBA.
Got to see the game last night  
Rick in Dallas : 10/23/2021 9:01 am : link
Obi Toppin has made significant improvements in his game. He looks so much more confident on the court and can play along side Randle.He now needs to work on his FT's.
For me IQ takes some crazy shots that are forced. He needs to settle down and let the game come to him. He is a scorer though. I love the Walker/Rose PG combo. They just need to stay healthy.Fournier is a great addition to the starting 5.
MSG is going to be rocking this year.
The Knicks are 3rd in the NBA in ppg.  
robbieballs2003 : 10/23/2021 9:10 am : link
Yes, most teams only played 1 game and we played 2, one of which was double overtime. And, yes, this will change. The point is this team had a goal in mind this offseason and that was to improve the offense. So far so good.
I want to add two quick notes.  
robbieballs2003 : 10/23/2021 9:12 am : link
1. If Randle goes back to long stretches of iso ball then someone needs to smack him upside the head. The ball movement last night was phenomenal. They need to continue with that as more players are able to get in rhythm.

2. The chemistry that Randle and Fournier have already is awesome. They play off each other so well.
RE: Not surprising with the Lakers  
TyreeHelmet : 10/23/2021 9:28 am : link
In comment 15425544 nygiants16 said:
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you got 3 "stars" who dont fit together whatsoever, you have an old bench that cant hold up their end of the bargain


The roster really just doesn't fit. Besides Pelinka having Lebron choose to sign there and Davis force his way there, has he made one good move?

They won title so he gets credit but some of his moves have made zero sense. How does he let Caruso walk for nothing? That roster is just so old. I just can't see the Westbrook move working out, especially given the other options. They could have just kept Caruso, KCP and traded for Hield instead. That is a much better fit and outcome.
RE: RE: And Doc Rivers  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/23/2021 9:37 am : link
In comment 15425472 nygiants16 said:
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not challenging two obvious plays that would’ve gone his way.



he is awful


Doc has coached what, 3 or 4 teams that have blown 3-1 series leads?
RE: RE: Not surprising with the Lakers  
ajr2456 : 10/23/2021 10:00 am : link
In comment 15425589 TyreeHelmet said:
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you got 3 "stars" who dont fit together whatsoever, you have an old bench that cant hold up their end of the bargain



The roster really just doesn't fit. Besides Pelinka having Lebron choose to sign there and Davis force his way there, has he made one good move?

They won title so he gets credit but some of his moves have made zero sense. How does he let Caruso walk for nothing? That roster is just so old. I just can't see the Westbrook move working out, especially given the other options. They could have just kept Caruso, KCP and traded for Hield instead. That is a much better fit and outcome.


Rich Paul isn’t a good team builder
Some just refuse to enjoy the moment  
djm : 10/23/2021 10:55 am : link
We’re already worried about trading for a star? Relax people. We’re 2-0. Obi will find minutes here. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here.
Not that I think the star trade discussion is stupid  
djm : 10/23/2021 11:02 am : link
But we’re in a good place right now. We don’t have to do anything until some star springs free. I’m not even sure I’d liquify things for a guy like lilliard. For an even swap of Walker or rose sure but Portland ain’t doing that. We’d have to deal all the youth and chips yet we have two good PGs here already. Lliard is an upgrade and younger but we’re not getting much better swapping rose/Walker for lillaird despite trading every chip we have.

For now I’m fine watching this team win 54 games.
I dont think it will be Lillard or Beal  
nygiants16 : 10/23/2021 11:23 am : link
I think it will be Mitchell, probably not this season, maybe not even next offseason, but i think he will be the next star to ask out
I don’t want a star sorry  
Carl in CT : 10/23/2021 11:51 am : link
That’s 30 years old. I’d rather keep going as we are flexible in another year. No need to rush until the right player is available.
McBride doesn't seem to have a good handle, PG's have to look  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/23/2021 12:09 pm : link
like they were born with the ball in their hands. I don't need him to be Kyrie, but he needs to work on it.

Thibs likes Burks, I just wish Grimes can have more playing time. He mirrors very well on defense, despite not being a top athlete, you can see why Thibs wanted to draft him.

I thought Robinson was gone for 2 months when he fell to the floor. Thank god he's okay. He makes a huge difference for us and he's not even in shape yet.
RE: Not that I think the star trade discussion is stupid  
ajr2456 : 10/23/2021 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15425629 djm said:
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But we’re in a good place right now. We don’t have to do anything until some star springs free. I’m not even sure I’d liquify things for a guy like lilliard. For an even swap of Walker or rose sure but Portland ain’t doing that. We’d have to deal all the youth and chips yet we have two good PGs here already. Lliard is an upgrade and younger but we’re not getting much better swapping rose/Walker for lillaird despite trading every chip we have.

For now I’m fine watching this team win 54 games.


Yea this team is going to be very good and a tough out in the playoffs. A star is coming at some point, they’re confident of it but also aren’t going to trade for one just to trade for one. The process is working.
I’m keeping my SGA dream alive.  
bceagle05 : 10/23/2021 12:21 pm : link
OKC dropped its first two games by 21 and 33 points, respectively. Their starters around SGA are Luguentz Dort, Josh Giddey, Darius Bazley and Isaiah Roby, for God’s sake. Presti will build a good team eventually, but that’s three years away at minimum. Send that young man to the Big Apple.
RE: I dont think it will be Lillard or Beal  
larryflower37 : 10/23/2021 1:11 pm : link
In comment 15425637 nygiants16 said:
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I think it will be Mitchell, probably not this season, maybe not even next offseason, but i think he will be the next star to ask out


Damn I would love Mitchell, my second favorite non-knick after Dame
Bring him home.
RE: RE: Not surprising with the Lakers  
BigBlueShock : 10/23/2021 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15425589 TyreeHelmet said:
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you got 3 "stars" who dont fit together whatsoever, you have an old bench that cant hold up their end of the bargain



The roster really just doesn't fit. Besides Pelinka having Lebron choose to sign there and Davis force his way there, has he made one good move?

They won title so he gets credit but some of his moves have made zero sense. How does he let Caruso walk for nothing? That roster is just so old. I just can't see the Westbrook move working out, especially given the other options. They could have just kept Caruso, KCP and traded for Hield instead. That is a much better fit and outcome.

Pellinka gets zero credit from me. He didn’t do anything. LeBron and AD went there because it’s LA. The Laker name, weather and lifestyle brought them, not Pelinka. How many stars could Pelinka persuad to come if he was running the Timbervolves? Or Pistons? He’s got the easiest job on the planet and he’s still finding ways to screw it up.

RE: McBride doesn't seem to have a good handle, PG's have to look  
djm : 10/23/2021 1:33 pm : link
In comment 15425653 Jim in Hoboken said:
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like they were born with the ball in their hands. I don't need him to be Kyrie, but he needs to work on it.

Thibs likes Burks, I just wish Grimes can have more playing time. He mirrors very well on defense, despite not being a top athlete, you can see why Thibs wanted to draft him.

I thought Robinson was gone for 2 months when he fell to the floor. Thank god he's okay. He makes a huge difference for us and he's not even in shape yet.


Same here I was already processing Mitch about 6 weeks. So was Clyde.
Took my son to game  
Dr. D : 10/23/2021 1:36 pm : link
First Knicks or NBA game he's ever been to (would've taken him sooner if Knicks hadn't sucked most of his life). What a great game! We got there at about 5:30. Everyone was super nice, even though we were wearing enemy colors.

I kinda felt bad for the magic fans. What a horrible home opener for them and it seemed about half the crowd was Knicks fans.
RE: RE: This team is very deep  
Dr. D : 10/23/2021 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15425504 larryflower37 said:
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at the moment. The question is do you keep the depth or do you trade for a star? Will be a very interesting season to say the least.



Keep the team just the way it is.
Let's see what this team can be before we break it up.

I agree. We don’t even know what some of these young guys, like Obi can ultimately become.
Knicks are fun to watch  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/23/2021 1:44 pm : link
and thank god for them, got nothing else in sports
RE: Took my son to game  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/23/2021 1:51 pm : link
In comment 15425697 Dr. D said:
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First Knicks or NBA game he's ever been to (would've taken him sooner if Knicks hadn't sucked most of his life). What a great game! We got there at about 5:30. Everyone was super nice, even though we were wearing enemy colors.

I kinda felt bad for the magic fans. What a horrible home opener for them and it seemed about half the crowd was Knicks fans.


The Magic have fans? Haha.
RE: I’m keeping my SGA dream alive.  
larryflower37 : 10/23/2021 2:21 pm : link
In comment 15425660 bceagle05 said:
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OKC dropped its first two games by 21 and 33 points, respectively. Their starters around SGA are Luguentz Dort, Josh Giddey, Darius Bazley and Isaiah Roby, for God’s sake. Presti will build a good team eventually, but that’s three years away at minimum. Send that young man to the Big Apple.


He just signed his extension in August he knew what OKC looked like.
OKC doesn't need anymore picks and have committed to grow around him.
RE: I dont think it will be Lillard or Beal  
dpinzow : 10/23/2021 2:23 pm : link
In comment 15425637 nygiants16 said:
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I think it will be Mitchell, probably not this season, maybe not even next offseason, but i think he will be the next star to ask out


I think it could be Mitchell as soon as next season, because there have been times Mitchell hasn't been happy there, and being the man in NYC has to appeal to him, as a New Yorker
As for Beal  
dpinzow : 10/23/2021 2:24 pm : link
It can't be him if he remains unvaccinated against COVID. He wouldn't be able to play home games due to NYC's vax mandate. It would be a Kyrie situation
Booker makes more sense to me than Mitchell does.  
Strahan91 : 10/23/2021 2:42 pm : link
Only has two years left on his deal after this year and lowballing Ayton + whatever story is about to drop on Sarver is going to make things messy there. His contract (and KAT's) also track with where Rose structured each contract to expire. All 3 are former Rose clients but Booker and KAT are both Kentucky guys as well.
RE: RE: I’m keeping my SGA dream alive.  
bceagle05 : 10/23/2021 2:49 pm : link
In comment 15425730 larryflower37 said:
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He just signed his extension in August he knew what OKC looked like. OKC doesn't need anymore picks and have committed to grow around him.

Yeah, I know it’s illogical on the surface and certainly won’t happen this year, but guys like to lock in their money and figure the rest out later. And Presti wheels and deals like a day trader. And the Kentucky connections…

Down the road it really wouldn’t shock me.
I'd actually like to see if RJ or Obi can develop into the star  
dpinzow : 10/23/2021 2:53 pm : link
unless it's Dame asking for a trade midseason. I wouldn't deal for Beal or KAT or anyone else that could come free midseason
So as the person who started all the trade for a star talk  
dpinzow : 10/23/2021 2:57 pm : link
on this thread, I was only referring to a scenario where Dame asked out of Portland, because he's the only guy who I think is worth it who could be available before the season is over. Otherwise, I say roll with what we have, see if RJ or Obi become a star (or even IQ if Kemba or Rose get a long term injury) and then see what happens in the offseason
I agree, I wanna watch this group play this year.  
bceagle05 : 10/23/2021 2:59 pm : link
We’re still in the honeymoon phase here so I’ll enjoy it.
RE: Booker makes more sense to me than Mitchell does.  
dpinzow : 10/23/2021 3:00 pm : link
In comment 15425746 Strahan91 said:
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Only has two years left on his deal after this year and lowballing Ayton + whatever story is about to drop on Sarver is going to make things messy there. His contract (and KAT's) also track with where Rose structured each contract to expire. All 3 are former Rose clients but Booker and KAT are both Kentucky guys as well.


As good as Devin Booker is, he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy interested in playing in NYC. Donovan Mitchell is from Westchester
Booker is interesting in a year or two  
larryflower37 : 10/23/2021 3:23 pm : link
PHX is built for now.
Cp3 is long in the tooth and plays a tough position for longevity.
I think Dame stays in Portland for at least this year that team will win 45 games and be in the playoff hunt.
AD might be the guy asking out if that team continues to be dysfunctional
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/23/2021 3:40 pm : link
I'd grab Booker in a NY minute if it was on the table. I much prefer him to Mitchell.
RE: RE: I’m keeping my SGA dream alive.  
ajr2456 : 10/23/2021 5:19 pm : link
In comment 15425730 larryflower37 said:
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OKC dropped its first two games by 21 and 33 points, respectively. Their starters around SGA are Luguentz Dort, Josh Giddey, Darius Bazley and Isaiah Roby, for God’s sake. Presti will build a good team eventually, but that’s three years away at minimum. Send that young man to the Big Apple.



He just signed his extension in August he knew what OKC looked like.
OKC doesn't need anymore picks and have committed to grow around him.


OKC is going to trade SGA, the whole league knows it. He signed the extension because he could get more money and didn’t have to risk playing on a one year QO.

The star coming to the Knicks will in all likelyhood be SGA or Mitchell according to the Knicks front office’s plan.
Mavs look like shit again  
GNewGiants : 10/23/2021 7:55 pm : link
Kidd - awful hire.

Can’t believe you surround Luka with Finney Smith and Dwight Powell. And over pay Tim Hardaway.
RE: Mavs look like shit again  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/23/2021 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15425994 GNewGiants said:
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Kidd - awful hire.

Can’t believe you surround Luka with Finney Smith and Dwight Powell. And over pay Tim Hardaway.


Kidd was a disaster in Milwaukee. He leaves & the Bucks become a 60 win team. Haha.
Scott Perry is awesome  
adamg : 10/23/2021 8:41 pm : link
Porzingis baby. Suck a nut pussy.
RE: Booker is interesting in a year or two  
bubba0825 : 10/23/2021 9:09 pm : link
In comment 15425789 larryflower37 said:
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PHX is built for now.
Cp3 is long in the tooth and plays a tough position for longevity.
I think Dame stays in Portland for at least this year that team will win 45 games and be in the playoff hunt.
AD might be the guy asking out if that team continues to be dysfunctional


Luka doncic is the guy I want to be unhappy, where the Knicks are now I wouldn’t bother with a lot of these guys
Before Mitch gets injured would it be a bad idea  
xman : 10/23/2021 11:42 pm : link
to deal him with some other bodies and picks for Anthony no defense Townsend?
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