Well done to the HC getting the team to play today very short handed. Nice work from Garrett and Jones making some plays.
Some players played well on D that are important this year and
to the future. Let's get the next one!
In comment 15427330 Eric from BBI said:
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All things considered, I have to watch the tape, but I think Matt Peart answered the challenge at left tackle today. [/quote
Had a few very questionable plays early on. But I say since the midway of the 2nd quarter, absolutely. Solder should be on the bench when Thomas returns.
All things considered, a nice win. Would have loved to have seen that DJ to Slayton bomb had the OL blocked correctly. DJ with a solid game considering the circumstances.
The best gameplan top to bottom of the year on both offense and defense.
Giants have six sacks and monster games from Azeez Ojulari (2.5 sacks, 4 QB hits, 3 tackles for loss) and Leonard Williams (1.5 sacks, 3 QB hits and tied for team-high 6 tackles).
I believe somebody started a thread a week or two ago saying they were incredibly jealous of the Panthers organization, how they’ve rebuilt, how they have Matt Rhule, and how great they were drafting.
i remember 4 weeks ago when a select group was sucking rhule and tepper dick saying, i wish we were the panthers. they are alot better and ahead of us. well those panthers you want to be just got dumped on without our top 4 weapons and 3 starting OL including our best 2.
nice to see giants put a full game together. jones played well
I believe somebody started a thread a week or two ago saying they were incredibly jealous of the Panthers organization, how they’ve rebuilt, how they have Matt Rhule, and how great they were drafting.
yes, they were slobbing the rhule and tepper knob. saying wish we were them, they are better than us, they are ahead of us, tepper is forward thiking, etc
I believe somebody started a thread a week or two ago saying they were incredibly jealous of the Panthers organization, how they’ve rebuilt, how they have Matt Rhule, and how great they were drafting.
Rhule better be careful. Tepper is known to be demanding and impatient. They need to find a QB quickly. The svengali mental mind tricks only work for so long. Rhule strikes me as a college HC.
RE: Unpopular Opinion: Jones plays better when Shepard is out
... He relies on Shepard too much because they have the most history.
But Shepard is not a game breaker, and with with him out Jones is getting the ball to guys with speed and/or elusiveness.
Not sure you have a good read on shepard's skillset. Elusiveness and route running is what he does best. He's more consistently open than other WRs on the roster.
Played a nice game! Hopefully he continues to mature into a fearsome Edge for us. We’re still missing that guy on the other side, but it appeared like the defense wanted to win one today!
I believe somebody started a thread a week or two ago saying they were incredibly jealous of the Panthers organization, how they’ve rebuilt, how they have Matt Rhule, and how great they were drafting.
I started that thread and my point was the alignment of the franchise. Judge & Rhule have the same career record thus far, and I’m still a believer in Judge. And to be fair, I didn’t use the word “incredibly” 😂
and i also thought this was Garrett best game as OC because he actually adapted to what was on the field and called more QB designs, more rollouts and didn't just let Jones stand back there and take a beating
Good to see a "comfortable" win today. Carolina's offense looked like garbage today! Loved what the rook (51) did today, along with the big boys in the middle!
RE: Encouraging game for Peart, Ojulari, and Mckinney
and i also thought this was Garrett best game as OC because he actually adapted to what was on the field and called more QB designs, more rollouts and didn't just let Jones stand back there and take a beating
I agree on Garrett. He protected the line with design and seemed to also find a weakness on the crossing patterns and kept going to it.
and i also thought this was Garrett best game as OC because he actually adapted to what was on the field and called more QB designs, more rollouts and didn't just let Jones stand back there and take a beating
I agree on Garrett. He protected the line with design and seemed to also find a weakness on the crossing patterns and kept going to it.
he also FINALLY called a rub/pick combo inside 10 and it went for 6. he schemed someone open. BOUT TIME!
I'd pretty much given up hope that Peart is a keeper. Was I wrong
... He relies on Shepard too much because they have the most history.
But Shepard is not a game breaker, and with with him out Jones is getting the ball to guys with speed and/or elusiveness.
Not sure you have a good read on shepard's skillset. Elusiveness and route running is what he does best. He's more consistently open than other WRs on the roster.
I think there is some truth that when Shepard is out there , Jones locks on to him too much . When Shepard is out which is a lot Jones seems to spread the ball around a lot more
Yes, LFG! Im never rooting for it, but if Mahomes can't play next week we have a shot and we'd always have a shot vs the Raiders causd they're inconsistent.
Obviously not 12-5 but hopefully 4-5 before the bye week?
Since I know you're a beer guy, what are u having today?
RE: Encouraging game for Peart, Ojulari, and Mckinney
and i also thought this was Garrett best game as OC because he actually adapted to what was on the field and called more QB designs, more rollouts and didn't just let Jones stand back there and take a beating
Dont say that here. The clowns in the gamethread were upset with exposing jones
beat a really bad team, but you can only play who is on the schedule.
Aside from an early play where he was beaten and his down field penalty, Peart played well. The rest of the OL did not, especially Solder, Price, and Hernandez. Burns was killing us all day long, frequently because we still can't pick up a simple stunt. Those three also whiffed frequently on inside swim moves by the Carolina DL.
The poor OL play is why we never went downfield. Jones was under pressure all day. It's also why Garrett had him rolling out on a lot of plays. I thought Jones played well considering he was missing Golladay, Toney, Shepard, and Barkley, and given that his OL didn't play well.
Booker is blah. No explosion and dropped a pass. We should have resigned Gallman. He would have been a lot cheaper.
Drops by Slayton and Sills IIRC.
Monster games from Lawrence, Williams, and especially Ojulari. Johnson also played well, as did Jackson and Bradberry.
Gano had a great game as well.
Solid win, but the major weakness of this team as we have discussed is the OL.
RE: I'd pretty much given up hope that Peart is a keeper. Was I wrong
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All things considered, I have to watch the tape, but I think Matt Peart answered the challenge at left tackle today.
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All things considered, I have to watch the tape, but I think Matt Peart answered the challenge at left tackle today.
Encouraging, if true.
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Also think Adoree' Jackson played his best game as a Giant, and it started with his sticking his face into a tackle early in the game.
Some players played well on D that are important this year and
to the future. Let's get the next one!
History says they won’t
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All things considered, I have to watch the tape, but I think Matt Peart answered the challenge at left tackle today. [/quote
Had a few very questionable plays early on. But I say since the midway of the 2nd quarter, absolutely. Solder should be on the bench when Thomas returns.
The best gameplan top to bottom of the year on both offense and defense.
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Giants have six sacks and monster games from Azeez Ojulari (2.5 sacks, 4 QB hits, 3 tackles for loss) and Leonard Williams (1.5 sacks, 3 QB hits and tied for team-high 6 tackles).
They only show up when it convenients them.
But Shepard is not a game breaker, and with with him out Jones is getting the ball to guys with speed and/or elusiveness.
nice to see giants put a full game together. jones played well
yes, they were slobbing the rhule and tepper knob. saying wish we were them, they are better than us, they are ahead of us, tepper is forward thiking, etc
As soon Andrew Thomas is back - I would make Solder inactive. I'd give Cunningham a roster spot over him as tackle #3
Rhule better be careful. Tepper is known to be demanding and impatient. They need to find a QB quickly. The svengali mental mind tricks only work for so long. Rhule strikes me as a college HC.
But Shepard is not a game breaker, and with with him out Jones is getting the ball to guys with speed and/or elusiveness.
Not sure you have a good read on shepard's skillset. Elusiveness and route running is what he does best. He's more consistently open than other WRs on the roster.
Played a nice game! Hopefully he continues to mature into a fearsome Edge for us. We’re still missing that guy on the other side, but it appeared like the defense wanted to win one today!
Raiders have played like a playoff team so far in 2021
Tampa Bay, enough said.
It's a nice win but I still expect the Giants to be at best 3-6 after 9 games
I started that thread and my point was the alignment of the franchise. Judge & Rhule have the same career record thus far, and I’m still a believer in Judge. And to be fair, I didn’t use the word “incredibly” 😂
He looked great today.
I agree on Garrett. He protected the line with design and seemed to also find a weakness on the crossing patterns and kept going to it.
We beat a team that we are supposed to beat and we did it without most of our offensive weapons.
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and i also thought this was Garrett best game as OC because he actually adapted to what was on the field and called more QB designs, more rollouts and didn't just let Jones stand back there and take a beating
I agree on Garrett. He protected the line with design and seemed to also find a weakness on the crossing patterns and kept going to it.
he also FINALLY called a rub/pick combo inside 10 and it went for 6. he schemed someone open. BOUT TIME!
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... He relies on Shepard too much because they have the most history.
But Shepard is not a game breaker, and with with him out Jones is getting the ball to guys with speed and/or elusiveness.
Not sure you have a good read on shepard's skillset. Elusiveness and route running is what he does best. He's more consistently open than other WRs on the roster.
I think there is some truth that when Shepard is out there , Jones locks on to him too much . When Shepard is out which is a lot Jones seems to spread the ball around a lot more
Hi SFG, how are u?
Yes, LFG! Im never rooting for it, but if Mahomes can't play next week we have a shot and we'd always have a shot vs the Raiders causd they're inconsistent.
Obviously not 12-5 but hopefully 4-5 before the bye week?
Since I know you're a beer guy, what are u having today?
Dont say that here. The clowns in the gamethread were upset with exposing jones
Aside from an early play where he was beaten and his down field penalty, Peart played well. The rest of the OL did not, especially Solder, Price, and Hernandez. Burns was killing us all day long, frequently because we still can't pick up a simple stunt. Those three also whiffed frequently on inside swim moves by the Carolina DL.
The poor OL play is why we never went downfield. Jones was under pressure all day. It's also why Garrett had him rolling out on a lot of plays. I thought Jones played well considering he was missing Golladay, Toney, Shepard, and Barkley, and given that his OL didn't play well.
Booker is blah. No explosion and dropped a pass. We should have resigned Gallman. He would have been a lot cheaper.
Drops by Slayton and Sills IIRC.
Monster games from Lawrence, Williams, and especially Ojulari. Johnson also played well, as did Jackson and Bradberry.
Gano had a great game as well.
Solid win, but the major weakness of this team as we have discussed is the OL.
Who knows but it’s silly to give up on player so quickly.. he was a raw prospect with lots of talent.. some take time to progress into good players