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Really great to see Daniel Jones' performance today

M.S. : 10/24/2021 7:36 pm

after such a rough outing last week against the Rams. While his bottom line stats don't jump out at you, he performed at a very high level, especially with so many starters out of the line-up.

Perhaps most impressive was his 3rd Quarter TD drive, starting with the ball first and 10 at the Giants 25. It started with a stretch run to the left with Booker which turned out to be a fake with Jones doing a reverse pivot to his right. One problem -- he only had Kyle Rudolph trying to seal Bryan Burns, which failed. But Jones eluded Burns, faking him out, continued running to his right and then threw a 15-yard strike to Darius Slayton right at the sideline for a first down.

And then on third and 13 at the 42-yard line, Jones took a low snap, has to step up into the pocket, and then drifts to his right finding Booker for a 15-yard gain and another first down.

And then, of course, the end around pass that Daniel Jones hauled in with one hand (good for 16 yards and another first down) -- and best of all, he holds onto the ball after former Giant Sean Chandler puts a huge hit on him.

There was also Jones bobbing and weaving for 6 yards and then he executes a beautiful pitch option to Devonte Booker that froze Haason Reddick and went for 11 yards and another first down. And then the coup de grace on third and 3 at the Panthers 5-yard line -- a TD pass to Dante Pettis!

Daniel Jones looked totally in control for the entire drive. Very proud to see him perform this way! And kudos to Devontae Booker as well!
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agree  
speedywheels : 10/24/2021 7:40 pm : link
It wasn't a dominant performance, but good enough to win. Especially given the weapons he was missing. better than several other QB's today,
Daniel willed  
joeinpa : 10/24/2021 7:45 pm : link
This team to victory l, overcoming pathetic O lone play in the process

Love rooting for this kid. Great athlete, fierce competitor, skilled passer.

His critics don’t like when we are happy with him, as you can tell by some of the posts.

But it feels good to celebrate a win and even they can’t dampen it today.
When he laid out for the catch today  
j_rud : 10/24/2021 7:47 pm : link
all I could think was how much I really want him to be The Guy. Jury still out but I do hope he turns it up and strings some wins together.
Jones played fine...  
bw in dc : 10/24/2021 7:52 pm : link
Nothing special. I was more impressed by Garrett's play calling and getting Jones out on the edge with some nice mis-directions.

But it was a good team win overall, especially for Graham and his D.
RE: Jones played fine...  
AcidTest : 10/24/2021 7:53 pm : link
In comment 15427904 bw in dc said:
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Nothing special. I was more impressed by Garrett's play calling and getting Jones out on the edge with some nice mis-directions.

But it was a good team win overall, especially for Graham and his D.


Agreed.
Garrett also deserves some credit..  
Sean : 10/24/2021 7:54 pm : link
He called a strong game today.
RE: Jones played fine...  
Blueblue : 10/24/2021 7:57 pm : link
In comment 15427904 bw in dc said:
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Nothing special. I was more impressed by Garrett's play calling and getting Jones out on the edge with some nice mis-directions.

But it was a good team win overall, especially for Graham and his D.


He made several big plays and an awesome one handed grab. Considering he did it with a mostly JV team he Def played better than just fine.

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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/24/2021 7:58 pm : link
DJ was a plus this afternoon. I still don't think he's someone we're going to win a Super Bowl with. He's not a Herbert, but he's not a Darnold either. He's an average QB who needs the right weapons/good OL. Will he ever get that here? I doubt it.

He seems like a good kid so I'm hoping for the best.
Jones isn’t getting enough credit for how he played.  
Bleedblue10 : 10/24/2021 8:00 pm : link
By my count he threw one bad pass all day. His line was atrocious and he was throwing to guys that wouldn’t normally be on our 53. Idk what else some people expect. If he plays poorly go ahead shit on him but at least give him credit where credit is due
Bar is low huh  
ajr2456 : 10/24/2021 8:09 pm : link
He was ok. Nothing great
RE: Jones played fine...  
Toth029 : 10/24/2021 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15427904 bw in dc said:
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Nothing special. I was more impressed by Garrett's play calling and getting Jones out on the edge with some nice mis-directions.

But it was a good team win overall, especially for Graham and his D.


Agreed he did nothing special. But he hung out and delivered plays when he had to and didn't try to play hero ball, unlike last week.

When his top WRs are near PS guys, no run game and his OL is bad? Not much more anyone can ask for.
RE: Jones isn’t getting enough credit for how he played.  
Hammer : 10/24/2021 8:16 pm : link
In comment 15427923 Bleedblue10 said:
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By my count he threw one bad pass all day. His line was atrocious and he was throwing to guys that wouldn’t normally be on our 53. Idk what else some people expect. If he plays poorly go ahead shit on him but at least give him credit where credit is due


^^This^^

I have no idea what people expect out of Jones.

He's playing well, is obviously prepared week in and week ou,t has a very desirable skill set and it tough as nails.

Like my buddy once said, some people wouldn't be happy in heaven.
All I expected was no turnovers  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/24/2021 8:17 pm : link
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RE: Bar is low huh  
bluewave : 10/24/2021 8:18 pm : link
In comment 15427933 ajr2456 said:
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He was ok. Nothing great


Hate to burst your bubble but he's going to be our QB next year and we won't be drafting a QB....
RE: RE: Bar is low huh  
ajr2456 : 10/24/2021 8:19 pm : link
In comment 15427949 bluewave said:
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He was ok. Nothing great



Hate to burst your bubble but he's going to be our QB next year and we won't be drafting a QB....


Maybe but that’s because of the class more than it is about Jones. Hyping up his game today as something good is strange.
Very solid with team he had today  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/24/2021 8:20 pm : link
No turnovers. 9 QB’s have won the Super Bowl the last 20 years. The question is how much of a team does he need around him and what cost is he worth imo. I think we see the NFL adjusting to not giving 2nd contacts as easily and we will see a stronger secondary market emerge.

Reality is there are not many elite QB’s. If you can clearly upgrade you do so. I lean towards building a better team and having cost controlled QB unless truly special.

Great effort today by !



Jones put the team on his back today  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/24/2021 8:20 pm : link
come on he really did too
The defense gets killed on here  
ajr2456 : 10/24/2021 8:23 pm : link
And rightfully so, but they’re the reason the giants won today.
I love the qualifiers that Daniel Jones needs guys around him  
Chris684 : 10/24/2021 8:24 pm : link
As if there are these mythical QBs across the league dragging a bunch of stiffs to the playoffs.
RE: The defense gets killed on here  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/24/2021 8:25 pm : link
In comment 15427955 ajr2456 said:
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And rightfully so, but they’re the reason the giants won today.


No doubt. They finally stopped the run and won on first down a good amount after the first drive.
RE: Jones isn’t getting enough credit for how he played.  
Debaser : 10/24/2021 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15427923 Bleedblue10 said:
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By my count he threw one bad pass all day. His line was atrocious and he was throwing to guys that wouldn’t normally be on our 53. Idk what else some people expect. If he plays poorly go ahead shit on him but at least give him credit where credit is due


I’m expecting a “wow” play. I’m expecting someone who can show that he can win games. I’m still waiting for what jones can do. I’m still waiting for that’s eli to placico throw to win in ot agaist the eagles. . . Still waiting for that tyree play and not the one from the SB. So far all I see is average play game manger throwing 10 yards slants and running

If he was drafted in the second round and we got a stud pass rusher or lineman at #6 — I’d say okay
RE: RE: Jones isn’t getting enough credit for how he played.  
BillKo : 10/24/2021 8:32 pm : link
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By my count he threw one bad pass all day. His line was atrocious and he was throwing to guys that wouldn’t normally be on our 53. Idk what else some people expect. If he plays poorly go ahead shit on him but at least give him credit where credit is due



I’m expecting a “wow” play. I’m expecting someone who can show that he can win games. I’m still waiting for what jones can do. I’m still waiting for that’s eli to placico throw to win in ot agaist the eagles. . . Still waiting for that tyree play and not the one from the SB. So far all I see is average play game manger throwing 10 yards slants and running

If he was drafted in the second round and we got a stud pass rusher or lineman at #6 — I’d say okay


Why not pretend he was taken in the 2nd round then lol

I guess my point is after 2.5 years if you happiness has to still be based on where he was picked - something is amiss.

Either you like him after 2.5 years or don't, 1st rounder or second rounder.
There are some people here that have some personal animosity towards  
BestFeature : 10/24/2021 8:32 pm : link
him. He hasn't yet proven to be a great QB but he has proven as a guy that has heart and does everything to win. That's enough for me not root against him and take cheap shots against him like some fucks on this site.
He played very  
Les in TO : 10/24/2021 8:32 pm : link
Well. Leveraged his athleticism to put the team in manageable situations and his catch was a thing of beauty.
RE: RE: RE: Jones isn’t getting enough credit for how he played.  
ajr2456 : 10/24/2021 8:33 pm : link
In comment 15427971 BillKo said:
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By my count he threw one bad pass all day. His line was atrocious and he was throwing to guys that wouldn’t normally be on our 53. Idk what else some people expect. If he plays poorly go ahead shit on him but at least give him credit where credit is due



I’m expecting a “wow” play. I’m expecting someone who can show that he can win games. I’m still waiting for what jones can do. I’m still waiting for that’s eli to placico throw to win in ot agaist the eagles. . . Still waiting for that tyree play and not the one from the SB. So far all I see is average play game manger throwing 10 yards slants and running

If he was drafted in the second round and we got a stud pass rusher or lineman at #6 — I’d say okay



Why not pretend he was taken in the 2nd round then lol

I guess my point is after 2.5 years if you happiness has to still be based on where he was picked - something is amiss.

Either you like him after 2.5 years or don't, 1st rounder or second rounder.


Because his 5th year option is based on where he was picked?
Carolina's a top ten pass defense  
BlackLight : 10/24/2021 8:35 pm : link
8th best in opposing completion percentage, 11th best in opposing passer rating, 2nd best in passing yards.

When you control for playing without most of his top weapons, and behind a shaky OL, Jones's play today is pretty impressive, even without the eye-catching stats.
RE: Carolina's a top ten pass defense  
ajr2456 : 10/24/2021 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15427980 BlackLight said:
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8th best in opposing completion percentage, 11th best in opposing passer rating, 2nd best in passing yards.

When you control for playing without most of his top weapons, and behind a shaky OL, Jones's play today is pretty impressive, even without the eye-catching stats.


If you ignore the first 2.5 quarters sure
RE: Jones played fine...  
speedywheels : 10/24/2021 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15427904 bw in dc said:
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Nothing special. I was more impressed by Garrett's play calling and getting Jones out on the edge with some nice mis-directions.

But it was a good team win overall, especially for Graham and his D.


LOL - Garret's play calling was ATROCIOUS. the goal line calls in the first quarter was pathetic. and the call to pass to Jones to put him in harms way? Awful.
0f  
Toth029 : 10/24/2021 8:40 pm : link
Course Jones loses his top three wide receivers, his top RB, and his best OL who happens to be his blindside, and it's "oh it's no big deal".

The Panthers didn't have a top offense. I expected a low scoring game. But they do have a solid defense starting with Chinn, Burns, and Reddick. And Jones was the main catalyst to the offense scoring 23 points with PS level guys around him.
RE: 0f  
BestFeature : 10/24/2021 8:43 pm : link
In comment 15427985 Toth029 said:
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Course Jones loses his top three wide receivers, his top RB, and his best OL who happens to be his blindside, and it's "oh it's no big deal".

The Panthers didn't have a top offense. I expected a low scoring game. But they do have a solid defense starting with Chinn, Burns, and Reddick. And Jones was the main catalyst to the offense scoring 23 points with PS level guys around him.


Hurts has a terrible game against the Bucs but gets like 2 garbage time TDs and he's a good QB. Jones makes no mistakes and is a game manager with no offense and he sucks. I fucking hate BBI posters.
RE: RE: Jones played fine...  
BillKo : 10/24/2021 8:44 pm : link
In comment 15427983 speedywheels said:
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Nothing special. I was more impressed by Garrett's play calling and getting Jones out on the edge with some nice mis-directions.

But it was a good team win overall, especially for Graham and his D.



LOL - Garret's play calling was ATROCIOUS. the goal line calls in the first quarter was pathetic. and the call to pass to Jones to put him in harms way? Awful.


Yeah, those calls were awful, but so was execution.

I didn't mind the flea flicker to Jones but what was up with the called runs UP THE MIDDLE with DJ???? There was at least two of those.

Sure the moving pocket was nice but it was almost a necessity versus the CAR defense.

RE: RE: Jones played fine...  
Dankbeerman : 10/24/2021 8:45 pm : link
In comment 15427983 speedywheels said:
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Nothing special. I was more impressed by Garrett's play calling and getting Jones out on the edge with some nice mis-directions.

But it was a good team win overall, especially for Graham and his D.



LOL - Garret's play calling was ATROCIOUS. the goal line calls in the first quarter was pathetic. and the call to pass to Jones to put him in harms way? Awful.
I agree. if Garet still has a job next year he needs to being in a redzone cordinator to take over the calls.
Panthers  
Toth029 : 10/24/2021 8:47 pm : link
Defense had the 6th best defense (points allowed) entering the game.

Jones played with bottom level guys on the line, at receiver and no game until deep in the 4th quarter. NO BIG DEAL, GUYS.
RE: Jones isn’t getting enough credit for how he played.  
5BowlsSoon : 10/24/2021 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15427923 Bleedblue10 said:
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By my count he threw one bad pass all day. His line was atrocious and he was throwing to guys that wouldn’t normally be on our 53. Idk what else some people expect. If he plays poorly go ahead shit on him but at least give him credit where credit is due


+1

Most of the DJ critics don’t know squat regarding what is required to evaluate a qb or they have gone on record wanting DJ to fail in order to not look stupid for mocking the draft pick.

Someone said, “he didn’t do anything special” obviously has an agenda. Like you noticed, just about all, one or two exceptions, were perfectly thrown passes….especially the slant patterns, leading the guys nicely so they could get YAC. And he was having to throw a lot on the run, and most were right on target. Oh, but that’s nothing special.

And of course he caught a pass one handed and held on after a major hit…..oh but that’s nothing special. And how many yards rushing did he get and what was his average? Oh, but that was nothing special.

It’s people like that have done me a great favor by keeping me away from sites like this and spend more time constructively.
RE: Panthers  
ajr2456 : 10/24/2021 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15427992 Toth029 said:
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Defense had the 6th best defense (points allowed) entering the game.

Jones played with bottom level guys on the line, at receiver and no game until deep in the 4th quarter. NO BIG DEAL, GUYS.


If it makes you sleep better at night, think this was good.
RE: Jones isn’t getting enough credit for how he played.  
5BowlsSoon : 10/24/2021 8:50 pm : link
In comment 15427923 Bleedblue10 said:
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By my count he threw one bad pass all day. His line was atrocious and he was throwing to guys that wouldn’t normally be on our 53. Idk what else some people expect. If he plays poorly go ahead shit on him but at least give him credit where credit is due


+1

Most of the DJ critics don’t know squat regarding what is required to evaluate a qb or they have gone on record wanting DJ to fail in order to not look stupid for mocking the draft pick.

Someone said, “he didn’t do anything special” obviously has an agenda. Like you noticed, just about all, one or two exceptions, were perfectly thrown passes….especially the slant patterns, leading the guys nicely so they could get YAC. And he was having to throw a lot on the run, and most were right on target. Oh, but that’s nothing special.

And of course he caught a pass one handed and held on after a major hit…..oh but that’s nothing special. And how many yards rushing did he get and what was his average? Oh, but that was nothing special.

It’s people like that have done me a great favor by keeping me away from sites like this allowing me to spend more time being constructive with my time.
RE: RE: Panthers  
Toth029 : 10/24/2021 8:52 pm : link
In comment 15427997 ajr2456 said:
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Defense had the 6th best defense (points allowed) entering the game.

Jones played with bottom level guys on the line, at receiver and no game until deep in the 4th quarter. NO BIG DEAL, GUYS.



If it makes you sleep better at night, think this was good.


If you leave the game and look at Jones in a negative light still, maybe you should stop joining the discussion, because you're not adding anything of value. This post here by you proves my point. Maybe educate yourself on the roster, or go back to Reddit.
RE: RE: Jones played fine...  
bw in dc : 10/24/2021 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15427934 Toth029 said:
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Agreed he did nothing special. But he hung out and delivered plays when he had to and didn't try to play hero ball, unlike last week.

When his top WRs are near PS guys, no run game and his OL is bad? Not much more anyone can ask for.


Look, Jones managed the game pretty well. His QBR was 43. Certainly not glowing, but in the average range.

Once it became clear our D was in complete control of Darnold, which was established early, Jones needed to stay clean with the ball and trust the calls. Which he seemed to do.

Our staff completely outcoached Rhule, Brady and Snow.
Agreed.  
Justlurking : 10/24/2021 8:55 pm : link
It a shame Gettleman has failed so miserably at surrounding him with talent.
RE: RE: RE: Panthers  
ajr2456 : 10/24/2021 8:57 pm : link
In comment 15428002 Toth029 said:
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Defense had the 6th best defense (points allowed) entering the game.

Jones played with bottom level guys on the line, at receiver and no game until deep in the 4th quarter. NO BIG DEAL, GUYS.



If it makes you sleep better at night, think this was good.



If you leave the game and look at Jones in a negative light still, maybe you should stop joining the discussion, because you're not adding anything of value. This post here by you proves my point. Maybe educate yourself on the roster, or go back to Reddit.


The game was 12-3 until the Panthers started handing the Giants 4 straight short fields. They had 18 first downs on 13 drives which is pathetically embarrassing.

Sorry you’re blinded by a win but 200 yards and a game that was pathetic for 75% of the day isn’t some indictment that Jones was good.
RE: RE: Jones played fine...  
short lease : 10/24/2021 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15427934 Toth029 said:
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Nothing special. I was more impressed by Garrett's play calling and getting Jones out on the edge with some nice mis-directions.

But it was a good team win overall, especially for Graham and his D.



Agreed he did nothing special. But he hung out and delivered plays when he had to and didn't try to play hero ball, unlike last week.

When his top WRs are near PS guys, no run game and his OL is bad? Not much more anyone can ask for.



"He did nothing special" .... nothing special? I would call that 1 handed catch by a QB (and then hold on to the ball after a pretty good hit) - pretty special.

You said nothing special .... that was something special (imo).
Jones had many family and friends up from Charlotte today  
George from PA : 10/24/2021 9:02 pm : link
Good day all around
Ajr  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/24/2021 9:04 pm : link
Manage expectations. Our OL is prett blah. Solder is toast and they have to leave guys in to help in pass pro on top of having three too guys out.

All things considered it was a good day. Enjoy and focus less on the stat line and what was accomplished with what was available today.
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BigBlueShock : 10/24/2021 9:07 pm : link
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Defense had the 6th best defense (points allowed) entering the game.

Jones played with bottom level guys on the line, at receiver and no game until deep in the 4th quarter. NO BIG DEAL, GUYS.



If it makes you sleep better at night, think this was good.



If you leave the game and look at Jones in a negative light still, maybe you should stop joining the discussion, because you're not adding anything of value. This post here by you proves my point. Maybe educate yourself on the roster, or go back to Reddit.



The game was 12-3 until the Panthers started handing the Giants 4 straight short fields. They had 18 first downs on 13 drives which is pathetically embarrassing.

Sorry you’re blinded by a win but 200 yards and a game that was pathetic for 75% of the day isn’t some indictment that Jones was good.

If you continue to completely ignore that he was playing with one of the worst supporting casts on offense that any QB has had in many years then you should just delete your account because nobody gives a damn what you have to say. The WRs and OL that were trotted out there today was embarrassing.

I’m not Jones’ biggest fan but you need you fucking head examined if you can’t acknowledge what he did out there today. Your grasp of football is a disgrace.
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ajr2456 : 10/24/2021 9:07 pm : link
In comment 15428016 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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Manage expectations. Our OL is prett blah. Solder is toast and they have to leave guys in to help in pass pro on top of having three too guys out.

All things considered it was a good day. Enjoy and focus less on the stat line and what was accomplished with what was available today.


But it wasn’t a good day, you guys are being blinded by your fandom.

If the defense wasn’t good today the Giants get blown out.
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ajr2456 : 10/24/2021 9:09 pm : link
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Defense had the 6th best defense (points allowed) entering the game.

Jones played with bottom level guys on the line, at receiver and no game until deep in the 4th quarter. NO BIG DEAL, GUYS.



If it makes you sleep better at night, think this was good.



If you leave the game and look at Jones in a negative light still, maybe you should stop joining the discussion, because you're not adding anything of value. This post here by you proves my point. Maybe educate yourself on the roster, or go back to Reddit.



The game was 12-3 until the Panthers started handing the Giants 4 straight short fields. They had 18 first downs on 13 drives which is pathetically embarrassing.

Sorry you’re blinded by a win but 200 yards and a game that was pathetic for 75% of the day isn’t some indictment that Jones was good.


If you continue to completely ignore that he was playing with one of the worst supporting casts on offense that any QB has had in many years then you should just delete your account because nobody gives a damn what you have to say. The WRs and OL that were trotted out there today was embarrassing.

I’m not Jones’ biggest fan but you need you fucking head examined if you can’t acknowledge what he did out there today. Your grasp of football is a disgrace.


My football knowledge way out weighs yours. He was decent nothing more.

You can not give a damn what I say because you’re satisfied with this game , but I’ve been right the last 5 years on this board so whose football knowledge is a disgrace?

This game isn’t anything to be excited about when it comes to Jones.
He played well  
GNewGiants : 10/24/2021 9:09 pm : link
Against a bad team.

Much better than last week.
RE: He played well  
BestFeature : 10/24/2021 9:13 pm : link
In comment 15428025 GNewGiants said:
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Against a bad team.

Much better than last week.


Eh, the bad team argument is more relevant to the D. The Panthers are a bad team because of their O, not their D, and Jones was playing with no one on O.
RE: RE: RE: Jones played fine...  
bw in dc : 10/24/2021 9:15 pm : link
In comment 15428011 short lease said:
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"He did nothing special" .... nothing special? I would call that 1 handed catch by a QB (and then hold on to the ball after a pretty good hit) - pretty special.

You said nothing special .... that was something special (imo).


So now we are grading Jones based on his ability to catch the ball? It was a trick play. Let's focus on the traditional plays a QB has to make. Thanks.

RE: RE: He played well  
GNewGiants : 10/24/2021 9:15 pm : link
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Against a bad team.

Much better than last week.



Eh, the bad team argument is more relevant to the D. The Panthers are a bad team because of their O, not their D, and Jones was playing with no one on O.


They didn’t have their best defender and captain. Shaq Thompson. We saw what a loss can do when we lost Martinez.

Plus you’re right - their offense was wretched
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