after such a rough outing last week against the Rams. While his bottom line stats don't jump out at you, he performed at a very high level, especially with so many starters out of the line-up.
Perhaps most impressive was his 3rd Quarter TD drive, starting with the ball first and 10 at the Giants 25. It started with a stretch run to the left with Booker which turned out to be a fake with Jones doing a reverse pivot to his right. One problem -- he only had Kyle Rudolph trying to seal Bryan Burns, which failed. But Jones eluded Burns, faking him out, continued running to his right and then threw a 15-yard strike to Darius Slayton right at the sideline for a first down.
And then on third and 13 at the 42-yard line, Jones took a low snap, has to step up into the pocket, and then drifts to his right finding Booker for a 15-yard gain and another first down.
And then, of course, the end around pass that Daniel Jones hauled in with one hand (good for 16 yards and another first down) -- and best of all, he holds onto the ball after former Giant Sean Chandler puts a huge hit on him.
There was also Jones bobbing and weaving for 6 yards and then he executes a beautiful pitch option to Devonte Booker that froze Haason Reddick and went for 11 yards and another first down. And then the coup de grace on third and 3 at the Panthers 5-yard line -- a TD pass to Dante Pettis!
Daniel Jones looked totally in control for the entire drive. Very proud to see him perform this way! And kudos to Devontae Booker as well!
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are more than a few folks here who need to look up what Carolina's defensive ranking was entering this game. They have one of the better defenses in the NFL.
They were good in PPG. But that is skewed by the first three wins. In these last four losses, they've given up 116 points, or 29PPG.
And we still only could manage 12 until their offense put us in position to score on 19 yard, 32 and 19 yard drives.
Jones was almost single-handedly responsible for all of our offense output today while playing with Cullin Johnson, Pettis, Booker, Ross and that Offensive Line. Why are you guys so obsessed with knocking everything the guy does? Just enjoy the win or if possible enjoy the lack of all the
negativity. There are still 10 games to go and I hate to break this to all of you but winning 6 or 7(or even more) of them while the young guys show development would be a great thing. Going 1-16 would not.
We hear your last sentence every year, how’s that worked out?
Everyone seems to be ignoring that this game was 5-3 for almost 75% of it. The “explosion” was scoring on three very short fields and only getting a touchdown on one of them. Sorry that’s not impressive.
Neither of my last sentences has happened. Finishing 1-16(Bad) or closing the year strong with a record around or over .500(good) so I don't know how it's worked out. look, be miserable that they won, that's on you!
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Nothing special. I was more impressed by Garrett's play calling and getting Jones out on the edge with some nice mis-directions.
But it was a good team win overall, especially for Graham and his D.
Agreed he did nothing special. But he hung out and delivered plays when he had to and didn't try to play hero ball, unlike last week.
When his top WRs are near PS guys, no run game and his OL is bad? Not much more anyone can ask for.
"He did nothing special" .... nothing special? I would call that 1 handed catch by a QB (and then hold on to the ball after a pretty good hit) - pretty special.
You said nothing special .... that was something special (imo).
If Jackson had received that pass, bw in dc - and Go teprs for that matter - would SPOOGE himself in complementing Jackson. but since it's not, he will just gloss over it....
It was a good play from Jones.
Who cares, though?
Tell us more about how the Giants lost the game in the first quarter in a game they lost by 24 points.
Your agenda is so fucking tired....
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Most of the DJ critics don’t know squat regarding what is required to evaluate a qb or they have gone on record wanting DJ to fail in order to not look stupid for mocking the draft pick.
Someone said, “he didn’t do anything special” obviously has an agenda. Like you noticed, just about all, one or two exceptions, were perfectly thrown passes….especially the slant patterns, leading the guys nicely so they could get YAC. And he was having to throw a lot on the run, and most were right on target. Oh, but that’s nothing special.
And of course he caught a pass one handed and held on after a major hit…..oh but that’s nothing special. And how many yards rushing did he get and what was his average? Oh, but that was nothing special.
It’s people like that have done me a great favor by keeping me away from sites like this allowing me to spend more time being constructive with my time.
Jones's QBR was 43. For the uniformed, that is nothing special.
LOL, Of COURSE you rely on that. What was Jackson's QBR today? Mahomes?
Jackson had a higher QB despite getting blown out. Didn’t make the case you thought, huh?
You fucking moron - who won their game today?
You fell right into my trap. But of course I expect nothing less from you...
The Ravens are 5-2 and lost to a team who is also 5-2. What is exactly your point?
The fact that numnbuts relies on stats that support his boy, but ignores the stats that support jones....
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are more than a few folks here who need to look up what Carolina's defensive ranking was entering this game. They have one of the better defenses in the NFL.
They were good in PPG. But that is skewed by the first three wins. In these last four losses, they've given up 116 points, or 29PPG.
And we still only could manage 12 until their offense put us in position to score on 19 yard, 32 and 19 yard drives.
Jones was almost single-handedly responsible for all of our offense output today while playing with Cullin Johnson, Pettis, Booker, Ross and that Offensive Line. Why are you guys so obsessed with knocking everything the guy does? Just enjoy the win or if possible enjoy the lack of all the
negativity. There are still 10 games to go and I hate to break this to all of you but winning 6 or 7(or even more) of them while the young guys show development would be a great thing. Going 1-16 would not.
We hear your last sentence every year, how’s that worked out?
Everyone seems to be ignoring that this game was 5-3 for almost 75% of it. The “explosion” was scoring on three very short fields and only getting a touchdown on one of them. Sorry that’s not impressive.
Neither of my last sentences has happened. Finishing 1-16(Bad) or closing the year strong with a record around or over .500(good) so I don't know how it's worked out. look, be miserable that they won, that's on you!
You missed the concert that statement like your have happened every year. And here we are bad again.
He seems like a good kid so I'm hoping for the best.
I don’t know how someone can say that after today. Not that I’m saying he’s the guy, but you’re gonna say this today? He had the worst offensive personnel in the game out there today and somehow scored 20plus in a winning effort. Jones was so far and away the best offensive player on the field today, both teams, but today you’re convinced he’s not a great player?
I still don’t know for sure about jones. I kill jones too but games like today give me pause.
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Most of the DJ critics don’t know squat regarding what is required to evaluate a qb or they have gone on record wanting DJ to fail in order to not look stupid for mocking the draft pick.
Someone said, “he didn’t do anything special” obviously has an agenda. Like you noticed, just about all, one or two exceptions, were perfectly thrown passes….especially the slant patterns, leading the guys nicely so they could get YAC. And he was having to throw a lot on the run, and most were right on target. Oh, but that’s nothing special.
And of course he caught a pass one handed and held on after a major hit…..oh but that’s nothing special. And how many yards rushing did he get and what was his average? Oh, but that was nothing special.
It’s people like that have done me a great favor by keeping me away from sites like this allowing me to spend more time being constructive with my time.
Jones's QBR was 43. For the uniformed, that is nothing special.
LOL, Of COURSE you rely on that. What was Jackson's QBR today? Mahomes?
Jackson had a higher QB despite getting blown out. Didn’t make the case you thought, huh?
You fucking moron - who won their game today?
You fell right into my trap. But of course I expect nothing less from you...
The Ravens are 5-2 and lost to a team who is also 5-2. What is exactly your point?
The fact that numnbuts relies on stats that support his boy, but ignores the stats that support jones....
What? Lamar Jackson is a better QB, has double the TDS this year despite missing his LT and all his RBS for the whole year. How is one decent but not great game from Jackson a referendum on Jones being good today?
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Most of the DJ critics don’t know squat regarding what is required to evaluate a qb or they have gone on record wanting DJ to fail in order to not look stupid for mocking the draft pick.
Someone said, “he didn’t do anything special” obviously has an agenda. Like you noticed, just about all, one or two exceptions, were perfectly thrown passes….especially the slant patterns, leading the guys nicely so they could get YAC. And he was having to throw a lot on the run, and most were right on target. Oh, but that’s nothing special.
And of course he caught a pass one handed and held on after a major hit…..oh but that’s nothing special. And how many yards rushing did he get and what was his average? Oh, but that was nothing special.
It’s people like that have done me a great favor by keeping me away from sites like this allowing me to spend more time being constructive with my time.
Jones's QBR was 43. For the uniformed, that is nothing special.
LOL, Of COURSE you rely on that. What was Jackson's QBR today? Mahomes?
Jackson had a higher QB despite getting blown out. Didn’t make the case you thought, huh?
You fucking moron - who won their game today?
You fell right into my trap. But of course I expect nothing less from you...
The Ravens are 5-2 and lost to a team who is also 5-2. What is exactly your point?
The fact that numnbuts relies on stats that support his boy, but ignores the stats that support jones....
What? Lamar Jackson is a better QB, has double the TDS this year despite missing his LT and all his RBS for the whole year. How is one decent but not great game from Jackson a referendum on Jones being good today?
Because asshole tried to downplay Jones today, "well, his QBR is only 43"....
Your missing the point, which is not surprising. Only asshole brings up Jones QBR rating for a game he won.
Once again, is MO is clear - try to discredit Jones, even on a day he was an integral part of the win.
His - and Terps - agenda is so fucking tiresome...
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The Ravens didn’t get blown out because of Lamar. You’re not making any point containing to bring up Lamar. When Jones performs week in and week out like him, you can start comparing their QBR to help Jones’ case.
Your missing the point, which is not surprising. Only asshole brings up Jones QBR rating for a game he won.
Once again, is MO is clear - try to discredit Jones, even on a day he was an integral part of the win.
His - and Terps - agenda is so fucking tiresome...
His QBR is relevant. The fact it was 12-3 until they were given short fields is relevant. The fact if the defense didn’t play good we’re talking about how Jones didn’t do much while they were blown out instead of being hyped over a slightly below average performance. The only one missing anything is you.
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Most of the DJ critics don’t know squat regarding what is required to evaluate a qb or they have gone on record wanting DJ to fail in order to not look stupid for mocking the draft pick.
Someone said, “he didn’t do anything special” obviously has an agenda. Like you noticed, just about all, one or two exceptions, were perfectly thrown passes….especially the slant patterns, leading the guys nicely so they could get YAC. And he was having to throw a lot on the run, and most were right on target. Oh, but that’s nothing special.
And of course he caught a pass one handed and held on after a major hit…..oh but that’s nothing special. And how many yards rushing did he get and what was his average? Oh, but that was nothing special.
It’s people like that have done me a great favor by keeping me away from sites like this allowing me to spend more time being constructive with my time.
Jones's QBR was 43. For the uniformed, that is nothing special.
LOL, Of COURSE you rely on that. What was Jackson's QBR today? Mahomes?
Jackson had a higher QB despite getting blown out. Didn’t make the case you thought, huh?
You fucking moron - who won their game today?
You fell right into my trap. But of course I expect nothing less from you...
The Ravens are 5-2 and lost to a team who is also 5-2. What is exactly your point?
The fact that numnbuts relies on stats that support his boy, but ignores the stats that support jones....
What? Lamar Jackson is a better QB, has double the TDS this year despite missing his LT and all his RBS for the whole year. How is one decent but not great game from Jackson a referendum on Jones being good today?
You wanted the pissing match. As usual no one is allowed to even hint pt any praise for jones. Now you’re gonna go bananas because the exalted lamar jackson name was even uttered, like saying candy man in the mirror three times. No one is saying jones is jackson but now you’re gonna go ape shit. Just fucking save it. Jones played well today but you and the hit brigade need to mince every word here and save BBI from itself.
Jones played well today. It’s not that fucking hard to say.
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Most of the DJ critics don’t know squat regarding what is required to evaluate a qb or they have gone on record wanting DJ to fail in order to not look stupid for mocking the draft pick.
Someone said, “he didn’t do anything special” obviously has an agenda. Like you noticed, just about all, one or two exceptions, were perfectly thrown passes….especially the slant patterns, leading the guys nicely so they could get YAC. And he was having to throw a lot on the run, and most were right on target. Oh, but that’s nothing special.
And of course he caught a pass one handed and held on after a major hit…..oh but that’s nothing special. And how many yards rushing did he get and what was his average? Oh, but that was nothing special.
It’s people like that have done me a great favor by keeping me away from sites like this allowing me to spend more time being constructive with my time.
Jones's QBR was 43. For the uniformed, that is nothing special.
LOL, Of COURSE you rely on that. What was Jackson's QBR today? Mahomes?
Jackson had a higher QB despite getting blown out. Didn’t make the case you thought, huh?
You fucking moron - who won their game today?
You fell right into my trap. But of course I expect nothing less from you...
The Ravens are 5-2 and lost to a team who is also 5-2. What is exactly your point?
The fact that numnbuts relies on stats that support his boy, but ignores the stats that support jones....
What? Lamar Jackson is a better QB, has double the TDS this year despite missing his LT and all his RBS for the whole year. How is one decent but not great game from Jackson a referendum on Jones being good today?
You wanted the pissing match. As usual no one is allowed to even hint pt any praise for jones. Now you’re gonna go bananas because the exalted lamar jackson name was even uttered, like saying candy man in the mirror three times. No one is saying jones is jackson but now you’re gonna go ape shit. Just fucking save it. Jones played well today but you and the hit brigade need to mince every word here and save BBI from itself.
Jones played well today. It’s not that fucking hard to say.
Who is going ape shit? I didn’t bring up Jackson initially. Has anyone said Jones played bad? The overwhelming sentiment from “the hit brigade” is that he was fine but not didn’t play this great game and put the team on his backs like your ilk is saying.
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The Ravens didn’t get blown out because of Lamar. You’re not making any point containing to bring up Lamar. When Jones performs week in and week out like him, you can start comparing their QBR to help Jones’ case.
Your missing the point, which is not surprising. Only asshole brings up Jones QBR rating for a game he won.
Once again, is MO is clear - try to discredit Jones, even on a day he was an integral part of the win.
His - and Terps - agenda is so fucking tiresome...
His QBR is relevant. The fact it was 12-3 until they were given short fields is relevant. The fact if the defense didn’t play good we’re talking about how Jones didn’t do much while they were blown out instead of being hyped over a slightly below average performance. The only one missing anything is you.
Holy fucking shit! HIs QBR is not relevant - he won the game! His precious QBR would have been better if not for the three huge drops. Or the first TD counted that came off the board.
But again, who fucking cares? They won! The only people who bring up his QBR in a game that he won are fucking douchebags who have an anti-Jones agenda...
At the end of the day it doesn't matter. He's going to be re-signed to a long term deal in the near future!
Jones played well today. It’s not that fucking hard to say.
Yes it is. At least for two douchebags on this thread...
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The Ravens didn’t get blown out because of Lamar. You’re not making any point containing to bring up Lamar. When Jones performs week in and week out like him, you can start comparing their QBR to help Jones’ case.
Your missing the point, which is not surprising. Only asshole brings up Jones QBR rating for a game he won.
Once again, is MO is clear - try to discredit Jones, even on a day he was an integral part of the win.
His - and Terps - agenda is so fucking tiresome...
His QBR is relevant. The fact it was 12-3 until they were given short fields is relevant. The fact if the defense didn’t play good we’re talking about how Jones didn’t do much while they were blown out instead of being hyped over a slightly below average performance. The only one missing anything is you.
Holy fucking shit! HIs QBR is not relevant - he won the game! His precious QBR would have been better if not for the three huge drops. Or the first TD counted that came off the board.
But again, who fucking cares? They won! The only people who bring up his QBR in a game that he won are fucking douchebags who have an anti-Jones agenda...
Because beating Carolina in a game like this doesn’t mean much to the smart football fans on here. Take your Giants bias out of it for a moment. QBR factors in those drops, that’s been explained to you already.
His QBR is relevant because you don’t win many games where your QB has a 43 QBR.
We’re now giving him credit for a TD that wasn’t a TD? Jesus man.
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Jones played well today. It’s not that fucking hard to say.
Yes it is. At least for two douchebags on this thread...
He played fine.
But who cares?
Again, we are without the majority of our starting OL, and our top 5 offensive playmakers.
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Jones played well today. It’s not that fucking hard to say.
Yes it is. At least for two douchebags on this thread...
See the difference between us and your ilk like FMIC is we don’t have to resort to name calling.
Then - we go out and take care of business today with arguably the worst injuries to an offense in the entire NFL, and yet….posters still want to bitch.
Again, we are without the majority of our starting OL, and our top 5 offensive playmakers.
They averaged barely over a first down a possession, where did they move the ball well? Outside of the first TD drive they didn’t have have a drive over 40 yards before that.
You can enjoy the win, but you don’t have to fabricate stuff.
The season has long been over. There’s no run coming from this team.
I mean that’s literally the definition of being a fair weather fan. And not a true fan of the Giants.
Go root for another team, in all honesty. It’s embarrassing.
Don’t have to root hard. They’ll come pretty easily.
For the Giants, yes actually; it usually has been over after 7 games this past decade. It is again this year. They'll win 5 or 6 games and the same saps will say the arrow is pointing up because they put together some meaningless wins.
That's fine for fans who don't do much thinking. The problem is the owner can count himself in that group as well.
If they turn it around and win 10 games and go to the playoffs, then I'll admit I didn't know what the hell I was talking about. But until that actually happens I'm just going to keep assuming the team sucks.
I'm not going to get excited over going 5-12 or even 7-10 instead of 3-14. The Giants themselves prove every year that momentum is not carried over year to year with each pathetic start.
I don't give a shit that they won today. Nearly all of these players are going to be elsewhere in four years. I doubt a player on this roster is part of the next Giants playoff win.
This season is already over. It's big picture time now. And I am rooting for losses because our owner was stupid enough to hire Gettleman and he's stupid enough to bring him back next year because of piddly shit like today's win.
I got them by paying several thousands of dollars for the seat license. I do love the Giants. what you say doesn’t change that, asswipe.
I’ve had my fandom, been called a failure in my career, and probably been called more names than I can think of for daring to be critical of this team over the last decade. That’s more toxic to this board than people having the opinion that Jones was ok but not spectacular today.
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who cares? The fans of the Giants care. Does the season end after 7 games? Jesus man.
For the Giants, yes actually; it usually has been over after 7 games this past decade. It is again this year. They'll win 5 or 6 games and the same saps will say the arrow is pointing up because they put together some meaningless wins.
That's fine for fans who don't do much thinking. The problem is the owner can count himself in that group as well.
If they turn it around and win 10 games and go to the playoffs, then I'll admit I didn't know what the hell I was talking about. But until that actually happens I'm just going to keep assuming the team sucks.
I'm not going to get excited over going 5-12 or even 7-10 instead of 3-14. The Giants themselves prove every year that momentum is not carried over year to year with each pathetic start.
I don't give a shit that they won today. Nearly all of these players are going to be elsewhere in four years. I doubt a player on this roster is part of the next Giants playoff win.
This season is already over. It's big picture time now. And I am rooting for losses because our owner was stupid enough to hire Gettleman and he's stupid enough to bring him back next year because of piddly shit like today's win.
No, the season isn’t over. They have 10 games left. Some winnable, some probable losses. But we played well enough to beat a decent team today without our entire starting offense.
Forgive us as Giants fans if we’d like to see how our team does and fights through adversity for these next 6-7 games.
Jones played a good game. He managed the game well and gave them a chance to win. Saying he somehow carried the team is insulting to a defense that allowed 3 points.
The Jones trolls (pro and con) really seem to have stopped watching the Giants so they can just attribute everything positive or negative to him alone.
4 years??? Sorry - I’m not looking at 2025 right now and seeing what the Giants roster will look like. Who gives a shit. We are trying to win games now. Period.
I’ve had my fandom, been called a failure in my career, and probably been called more names than I can think of for daring to be critical of this team over the last decade. That’s more toxic to this board than people having the opinion that Jones was ok but not spectacular today.
There was a thread during the preseason asking what was acceptable to not blow up the front office and the roster. I gave a reasonable answer: 10-7 and a playoff appearance. No excuses. No bullshit.
Here we are at 2-5. If the Giants finish 8-2 and make the playoffs I swear to you I will shut up and not be critical about Gettleman, Jones, Barkley, or anyone else on this team. That will impress me. Honestly.
Anything short of that and they can fuck off.
I said if Jones doesn’t show us good to very good QB play then he likely isn’t the answer.
Forgive me but I thought there were 10 games left on the year.
I said if Jones doesn’t show us good to very good QB play then he likely isn’t the answer.
Forgive me but I thought there were 10 games left on the year.
The fact you think it’s still and “if” makes you an eternal optimist. Not a hard concept to grasp.
All about their shitty narrative.
This nonsense about who is and who isn’t a fan is childish idiocy. Nobody is coming to this board consistently who isn’t a Giant fan.
But there are a lot of people out of their depth talking football that like to revert to this nonsense instead.
For example - the first loss of the year was a disaster. No excuses about that. The Washington loss - I basically put that game on Joe Judge. Say what you want about that, people can disagree with it. But it’s on him. He went conservative at two crucial parts of the game and it completely and utterly backfired, and we lost. The Atlanta loss - again - completely conservative gameplan against a team we should have beaten and we didn’t.
Now with this injury bullshit - if they go 8-9 or 9-8 are you still gonna say the team is awful? Are you still gonna say the team is terrible if they lose to the Chiefs next week without their entire starting OL and skill players? Still gonna say they suck if they lose at Tampa?
I get that we want to make the playoffs. Everyone does. And yeah - DG will not be here if they don’t.
But you can’t just continue to say “no excuses” when literally the entire offense is hurt right now. They have to play the hand their dealt. No team is gonna be good if the majority of their offense isn’t playing.
We beat the Saints on the road and the offense was cooking a bit. Then the injury wheels come off at Dallas and there’s not much you can do except keep playing, which they did today.
Because asshole tried to downplay Jones today, "well, his QBR is only 43"....
I'm not trying to downplay Jones's play. But I'm not overrating it either like some of you are. So I brought up QBR - and YPA and AY/A - to show that Jones had a decent effort as measured by some pretty good metrics.
If you want to think today's game was Jones's Mt Everest moment, and he's now on the verge of becoming elite, than I can only suggest you start watching other current elite QBs around the league to get a better understanding of what elite play actually looks like.
It's not an enormous ask. 10-7 isn't even that good a record. It's not like I'm saying go win the NFC. Go win 10 games.
Enough with the excuses and moral victories. Enough.
Just your starting QB and nobody else, we are on the same
Page. If you can’t admit that it’s hard to do that, there’s no discussion here.