after such a rough outing last week against the Rams. While his bottom line stats don't jump out at you, he performed at a very high level, especially with so many starters out of the line-up.
Perhaps most impressive was his 3rd Quarter TD drive, starting with the ball first and 10 at the Giants 25. It started with a stretch run to the left with Booker which turned out to be a fake with Jones doing a reverse pivot to his right. One problem -- he only had Kyle Rudolph trying to seal Bryan Burns, which failed. But Jones eluded Burns, faking him out, continued running to his right and then threw a 15-yard strike to Darius Slayton right at the sideline for a first down.
And then on third and 13 at the 42-yard line, Jones took a low snap, has to step up into the pocket, and then drifts to his right finding Booker for a 15-yard gain and another first down.
And then, of course, the end around pass that Daniel Jones hauled in with one hand (good for 16 yards and another first down) -- and best of all, he holds onto the ball after former Giant Sean Chandler puts a huge hit on him.
There was also Jones bobbing and weaving for 6 yards and then he executes a beautiful pitch option to Devonte Booker that froze Haason Reddick and went for 11 yards and another first down. And then the coup de grace on third and 3 at the Panthers 5-yard line -- a TD pass to Dante Pettis!
Daniel Jones looked totally in control for the entire drive. Very proud to see him perform this way! And kudos to Devontae Booker as well!
Some of you are just miserable and glad I didn't have to hear from the blow hard Producer.
Just your starting QB and nobody else, we are on the same
Page. If you can’t admit that it’s hard to do that, there’s no discussion here.
I don't want to hear it. They went into Dallas at 1-4, and they were going to get their dicks kicked in in that one whether or not any injuries hit.
Go win games.
I haven't moved the goalposts. I said 10 wins before the season started. Go do it. 10 games left. If you want me to believe the season isn't over I've got to see it, because this team ate threw its benefit of the doubt years ago.
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Defense had the 6th best defense (points allowed) entering the game.
Jones played with bottom level guys on the line, at receiver and no game until deep in the 4th quarter. NO BIG DEAL, GUYS.
If it makes you sleep better at night, think this was good.
Lol what a mongloid
Jones missing 3 starting linemen(and most of their back ups) , 3 starting receivers, and starting running back. “I don’t want to hear about injuries”
Let’s take any QB. Remove the starting center, LG, LT. The top 3 receivers, and top RB and see if they can win let alone perform at all against a good D like the panthers.
There has not been one game this year the O has even been close to full strength.
Jones missing 3 starting linemen(and most of their back ups) , 3 starting receivers, and starting running back. “I don’t want to hear about injuries”
Let’s take any QB. Remove the starting center, LG, LT. The top 3 receivers, and top RB and see if they can win let alone perform at all against a good D like the panthers.
There has not been one game this year the O has even been close to full strength.
Confirmation bias is why.
For example - the first loss of the year was a disaster. No excuses about that. The Washington loss - I basically put that game on Joe Judge. Say what you want about that, people can disagree with it. But it’s on him. He went conservative at two crucial parts of the game and it completely and utterly backfired, and we lost. The Atlanta loss - again - completely conservative gameplan against a team we should have beaten and we didn’t.
Now with this injury bullshit - if they go 8-9 or 9-8 are you still gonna say the team is awful? Are you still gonna say the team is terrible if they lose to the Chiefs next week without their entire starting OL and skill players? Still gonna say they suck if they lose at Tampa?
I get that we want to make the playoffs. Everyone does. And yeah - DG will not be here if they don’t.
But you can’t just continue to say “no excuses” when literally the entire offense is hurt right now. They have to play the hand their dealt. No team is gonna be good if the majority of their offense isn’t playing.
We beat the Saints on the road and the offense was cooking a bit. Then the injury wheels come off at Dallas and there’s not much you can do except keep playing, which they did today.
Here's the problem...you think you're a great fan because you support the team when they suck, when they win meaningless games, and when you get excited over wins against 3-4 teams (2 of those wins were against the Jets and Texans). The point of every NFL season is to crown a Super Bowl Champion...not crown a "most improved" or "best team to finish strong after a 1-5 start"...but..but...but..every game matters. No it doesn't. Teams don't get up to play a 1-5 team, they get up to play the team who's been in the SB the last 2 years. KC gets everyone's best effort...the Giants rarely do. Wanna know why the Chiefs are struggling...because they're a measuring stick...the Giants don't scare anybody. Wanna know why the Giants win games they shouldn't...teams look past them because they inspire no real interest.
You have a loser mentality...you accept mediocrity (or worse in this case), without any rational thought about how it could get better. You root for wins that perpetuate the insanity..it's the same mindset of the folks who run this shitshow.
The goal of EVERY team, EVERY year should be to make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl...not finish 8-9...but...but...but...if we just improve and win, we'll be better next year. History tells us that's bullshit...but...but...but...injuries!...but...but...but...the offense was clicking in New Orleans?!?!? Just ignore the 0-3 (with no injuries) start and the first half of the Saints game. According to your logic, the season started in the 2nd half in New Orleans. The great Daniel Jones woke up and now he's a franchise QB...and the Giants are great again, you just wait and see! Without the injuries this team is still getting it's ass kicked by the Rams and Cowgirls. There are winners and losers...the Giants are losers, no matter how hard you root for them.
Every Giant fan (other than a few) know it's not just the team...its the organizational culture. If the culture doesn't change, the team won't either. 6 wins this year most likely sets the organization back another 4-5 years with Abrams being promoted...but...but...but...at least we won 6 games, right?
You can't see the forest for the trees. Hell, you can't even see past your nose! Keep rooting for losing seasons. Keep rooting for wins that will keep the status quo. It's what losers do....
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Here’s the thing man - there’s a big difference between just saying “anything other than 10-7 is unacceptable” and then being a realistic fan and reacting to what is occurring during the season.
For example - the first loss of the year was a disaster. No excuses about that. The Washington loss - I basically put that game on Joe Judge. Say what you want about that, people can disagree with it. But it’s on him. He went conservative at two crucial parts of the game and it completely and utterly backfired, and we lost. The Atlanta loss - again - completely conservative gameplan against a team we should have beaten and we didn’t.
Now with this injury bullshit - if they go 8-9 or 9-8 are you still gonna say the team is awful? Are you still gonna say the team is terrible if they lose to the Chiefs next week without their entire starting OL and skill players? Still gonna say they suck if they lose at Tampa?
I get that we want to make the playoffs. Everyone does. And yeah - DG will not be here if they don’t.
But you can’t just continue to say “no excuses” when literally the entire offense is hurt right now. They have to play the hand their dealt. No team is gonna be good if the majority of their offense isn’t playing.
We beat the Saints on the road and the offense was cooking a bit. Then the injury wheels come off at Dallas and there’s not much you can do except keep playing, which they did today.
Here's the problem...you think you're a great fan because you support the team when they suck, when they win meaningless games, and when you get excited over wins against 3-4 teams (2 of those wins were against the Jets and Texans). The point of every NFL season is to crown a Super Bowl Champion...not crown a "most improved" or "best team to finish strong after a 1-5 start"...but..but...but..every game matters. No it doesn't. Teams don't get up to play a 1-5 team, they get up to play the team who's been in the SB the last 2 years. KC gets everyone's best effort...the Giants rarely do. Wanna know why the Chiefs are struggling...because they're a measuring stick...the Giants don't scare anybody. Wanna know why the Giants win games they shouldn't...teams look past them because they inspire no real interest.
You have a loser mentality...you accept mediocrity (or worse in this case), without any rational thought about how it could get better. You root for wins that perpetuate the insanity..it's the same mindset of the folks who run this shitshow.
The goal of EVERY team, EVERY year should be to make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl...not finish 8-9...but...but...but...if we just improve and win, we'll be better next year. History tells us that's bullshit...but...but...but...injuries!...but...but...but...the offense was clicking in New Orleans?!?!? Just ignore the 0-3 (with no injuries) start and the first half of the Saints game. According to your logic, the season started in the 2nd half in New Orleans. The great Daniel Jones woke up and now he's a franchise QB...and the Giants are great again, you just wait and see! Without the injuries this team is still getting it's ass kicked by the Rams and Cowgirls. There are winners and losers...the Giants are losers, no matter how hard you root for them.
Every Giant fan (other than a few) know it's not just the team...its the organizational culture. If the culture doesn't change, the team won't either. 6 wins this year most likely sets the organization back another 4-5 years with Abrams being promoted...but...but...but...at least we won 6 games, right?
You can't see the forest for the trees. Hell, you can't even see past your nose! Keep rooting for losing seasons. Keep rooting for wins that will keep the status quo. It's what losers do....
Losers stay up until 3am on a work night trashing their team after a huge win.
Just like the fans hyping up a decent performance by Jones as an elite performance.
The bar, for some people, is on the floor.
Just like the fans hyping up a decent performance by Jones as an elite performance.
The bar, for some people, is on the floor.
25-3 with 3 starters left on offense is a huge win. And as bad as 2-5 sounds the teams leading the wild card race have 3 wins. And one of those teams is the Saints, who the Giants own the tie-breaker with.
It was a huge win
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Defense had the 6th best defense (points allowed) entering the game.
Jones played with bottom level guys on the line, at receiver and no game until deep in the 4th quarter. NO BIG DEAL, GUYS.
If it makes you sleep better at night, think this was good.
If you leave the game and look at Jones in a negative light still, maybe you should stop joining the discussion, because you're not adding anything of value. This post here by you proves my point. Maybe educate yourself on the roster, or go back to Reddit.
The game was 12-3 until the Panthers started handing the Giants 4 straight short fields. They had 18 first downs on 13 drives which is pathetically embarrassing.
Sorry you’re blinded by a win but 200 yards and a game that was pathetic for 75% of the day isn’t some indictment that Jones was good.
How many yards were lost by "illegal man down field" penalties? Drops (e.g Sills)? When you only look at the box's one statistics you lose all perspective on the game.
Jones and the defense dragged this team to a win today.
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Defense had the 6th best defense (points allowed) entering the game.
Jones played with bottom level guys on the line, at receiver and no game until deep in the 4th quarter. NO BIG DEAL, GUYS.
If it makes you sleep better at night, think this was good.
If you leave the game and look at Jones in a negative light still, maybe you should stop joining the discussion, because you're not adding anything of value. This post here by you proves my point. Maybe educate yourself on the roster, or go back to Reddit.
The game was 12-3 until the Panthers started handing the Giants 4 straight short fields. They had 18 first downs on 13 drives which is pathetically embarrassing.
Sorry you’re blinded by a win but 200 yards and a game that was pathetic for 75% of the day isn’t some indictment that Jones was good.
How many yards were lost by "illegal man down field" penalties? Drops (e.g Sills)? When you only look at the box's one statistics you lose all perspective on the game.
Jones and the defense dragged this team to a win today.
The bar is low when you’re counting lost yards to penalties.
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Here’s the thing man - there’s a big difference between just saying “anything other than 10-7 is unacceptable” and then being a realistic fan and reacting to what is occurring during the season.
For example - the first loss of the year was a disaster. No excuses about that. The Washington loss - I basically put that game on Joe Judge. Say what you want about that, people can disagree with it. But it’s on him. He went conservative at two crucial parts of the game and it completely and utterly backfired, and we lost. The Atlanta loss - again - completely conservative gameplan against a team we should have beaten and we didn’t.
Now with this injury bullshit - if they go 8-9 or 9-8 are you still gonna say the team is awful? Are you still gonna say the team is terrible if they lose to the Chiefs next week without their entire starting OL and skill players? Still gonna say they suck if they lose at Tampa?
I get that we want to make the playoffs. Everyone does. And yeah - DG will not be here if they don’t.
But you can’t just continue to say “no excuses” when literally the entire offense is hurt right now. They have to play the hand their dealt. No team is gonna be good if the majority of their offense isn’t playing.
We beat the Saints on the road and the offense was cooking a bit. Then the injury wheels come off at Dallas and there’s not much you can do except keep playing, which they did today.
Here's the problem...you think you're a great fan because you support the team when they suck, when they win meaningless games, and when you get excited over wins against 3-4 teams (2 of those wins were against the Jets and Texans). The point of every NFL season is to crown a Super Bowl Champion...not crown a "most improved" or "best team to finish strong after a 1-5 start"...but..but...but..every game matters. No it doesn't. Teams don't get up to play a 1-5 team, they get up to play the team who's been in the SB the last 2 years. KC gets everyone's best effort...the Giants rarely do. Wanna know why the Chiefs are struggling...because they're a measuring stick...the Giants don't scare anybody. Wanna know why the Giants win games they shouldn't...teams look past them because they inspire no real interest.
You have a loser mentality...you accept mediocrity (or worse in this case), without any rational thought about how it could get better. You root for wins that perpetuate the insanity..it's the same mindset of the folks who run this shitshow.
The goal of EVERY team, EVERY year should be to make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl...not finish 8-9...but...but...but...if we just improve and win, we'll be better next year. History tells us that's bullshit...but...but...but...injuries!...but...but...but...the offense was clicking in New Orleans?!?!? Just ignore the 0-3 (with no injuries) start and the first half of the Saints game. According to your logic, the season started in the 2nd half in New Orleans. The great Daniel Jones woke up and now he's a franchise QB...and the Giants are great again, you just wait and see! Without the injuries this team is still getting it's ass kicked by the Rams and Cowgirls. There are winners and losers...the Giants are losers, no matter how hard you root for them.
Every Giant fan (other than a few) know it's not just the team...its the organizational culture. If the culture doesn't change, the team won't either. 6 wins this year most likely sets the organization back another 4-5 years with Abrams being promoted...but...but...but...at least we won 6 games, right?
You can't see the forest for the trees. Hell, you can't even see past your nose! Keep rooting for losing seasons. Keep rooting for wins that will keep the status quo. It's what losers do....
Losers stay up until 3am on a work night trashing their team after a huge win.
So pathetic that is all you got from that.
Again what’s the point of being a 6 win team? Or are you realistically thinking this team i is winning 10 in a row and makes the playoffs???
Some of us can see the forest for the trees.
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who cares? The fans of the Giants care. Does the season end after 7 games? Jesus man.
For the Giants, yes actually; it usually has been over after 7 games this past decade. It is again this year. They'll win 5 or 6 games and the same saps will say the arrow is pointing up because they put together some meaningless wins.
That's fine for fans who don't do much thinking. The problem is the owner can count himself in that group as well.
If they turn it around and win 10 games and go to the playoffs, then I'll admit I didn't know what the hell I was talking about. But until that actually happens I'm just going to keep assuming the team sucks.
I'm not going to get excited over going 5-12 or even 7-10 instead of 3-14. The Giants themselves prove every year that momentum is not carried over year to year with each pathetic start.
I don't give a shit that they won today. Nearly all of these players are going to be elsewhere in four years. I doubt a player on this roster is part of the next Giants playoff win.
This season is already over. It's big picture time now. And I am rooting for losses because our owner was stupid enough to hire Gettleman and he's stupid enough to bring him back next year because of piddly shit like today's win.
I mean all of a sudden Ojuiari is a stud after 3 weeks people bitching about him cause he didn’t get a pressure, Jones willed his team to victory (against a defense who gave up 600 yards to Minny last week and missing their best defender), Jusge had this team ready to play after they quit on him last week, etc….
Nobody here wants the Giants to lose, we just don’t want the incompetence to continue on. Losses, especially embarrassing ones will promote change. Anyone who is saying for sure DG is gone after this year doesn’t realize how loyal Mara is to him.
-His 1-2-3 receivers (!!!! Just based on this alone, any win is a miracle).
-his 1 running back
-his franchise left tackle (and starting center if we’re splitting hairs).
The light clicked on in the Saints game and then every single player got hurt. He’s in a lose lose situation with some of the haters-what more could he have done today with the supporting cast being what it is????
The light clicked on in the Saints game and then every single player got hurt. He’s in a lose lose situation with some of the haters-what more could he have done today with the supporting cast being what it is????
This is rewriting history to fit your narrative. The offense was brutal before everyone got hurt in the Dallas game. For 53 minutes it was in New Orleans. Just like it was against Atlanta and Denver. So in 4 and a half games with everyone healthy we’ve had a game and six minutes of good offense.
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The light clicked on in the Saints game and then every single player got hurt. He’s in a lose lose situation with some of the haters-what more could he have done today with the supporting cast being what it is????
This is rewriting history to fit your narrative. The offense was brutal before everyone got hurt in the Dallas game. For 53 minutes it was in New Orleans. Just like it was against Atlanta and Denver. So in 4 and a half games with everyone healthy we’ve had a game and six minutes of good offense.
Right because Golladay played all off-season and so did Toney. Give it a rest.
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The light clicked on in the Saints game and then every single player got hurt. He’s in a lose lose situation with some of the haters-what more could he have done today with the supporting cast being what it is????
This is rewriting history to fit your narrative. The offense was brutal before everyone got hurt in the Dallas game. For 53 minutes it was in New Orleans. Just like it was against Atlanta and Denver. So in 4 and a half games with everyone healthy we’ve had a game and six minutes of good offense.
Right because Golladay played all off-season and so did Toney. Give it a rest.
The offseason has to do what anything? They still weren’t synced up in the first half of game 5? Is that really the excuse you’re going with?
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Manage expectations. Our OL is prett blah. Solder is toast and they have to leave guys in to help in pass pro on top of having three too guys out.
All things considered it was a good day. Enjoy and focus less on the stat line and what was accomplished with what was available today.
But it wasn’t a good day, you guys are being blinded by your fandom.
If the defense wasn’t good today the Giants get blown out.
This may rank in the top ten stupidest posts of all time on BBI:
"If the defense wasn't good today the Giants get blown out."
Absolute brilliance there.
You claim to have superior football intelligence a post or two later...if this is proof of your football acumen then you need to try checkers.
In any game if the defense is bad, that team loses. Ask the Chiefs and Jets(or any other team at any level).
We learned nothing.
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Manage expectations. Our OL is prett blah. Solder is toast and they have to leave guys in to help in pass pro on top of having three too guys out.
All things considered it was a good day. Enjoy and focus less on the stat line and what was accomplished with what was available today.
But it wasn’t a good day, you guys are being blinded by your fandom.
If the defense wasn’t good today the Giants get blown out.
This may rank in the top ten stupidest posts of all time on BBI:
"If the defense wasn't good today the Giants get blown out."
Absolute brilliance there.
You claim to have superior football intelligence a post or two later...if this is proof of your football acumen then you need to try checkers.
In any game if the defense is bad, that team loses. Ask the Chiefs and Jets(or any other team at any level).
Because the offense was brutal the entire day and the defense handed them the short fields at the end for the “explosion”. We’re talking about people hyping this up as some validating offensive performance when it wasn’t. The defense has been the excuse a lot this year for costing us games but seems to not get the credit for keeping the Giants in the game yesterday when they mustered a whole 5 points through 3 and a half quarters, 2 of which was scored by the defense.
Fascinating you can attack someone’s intelligence and then make the post that you did.
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The light clicked on in the Saints game and then every single player got hurt. He’s in a lose lose situation with some of the haters-what more could he have done today with the supporting cast being what it is????
This is rewriting history to fit your narrative. The offense was brutal before everyone got hurt in the Dallas game. For 53 minutes it was in New Orleans. Just like it was against Atlanta and Denver. So in 4 and a half games with everyone healthy we’ve had a game and six minutes of good offense.
Right because Golladay played all off-season and so did Toney. Give it a rest.
The offseason has to do what anything? They still weren’t synced up in the first half of game 5? Is that really the excuse you’re going with?
Yes. Which is horrible in every sense. But ask yourself-what chance did we have of continuing what happened in New Orleans? Realistically you can’t say anything but “no chance.” Not one of the key players in that attack is healthy! Not one. Doesn’t mean Jones is Tom Brady but you can honestly look at it and say that. We didn’t even involve Golladay in the attack down the field basically until the Saints game.
1.DJ played a good game and for Debaser he did have a "Wow" moment with his one handed catch.
2.Defense played a good game against one of the worst QB's in the NFL who was benched in the 4th quarter.Darnold is a very bad QB.
3.Ojulari,Williams and McKinney also had very good games.Does this mean the defense has turned a corner...I doubt it.
4.For all the Sills backers their is a reason why he has always been on the PS.
As Giants fans we all know we have a talent issues on the roster on both sides of the ball due to bad drafts and FA signings. I don't think any Giant fan on BBI denies that fact. We have isuues with the owners, pro personnel dept., GM, coaches that need to be addressed this offseason. Nothing changes in that respect. You win games controlling the LOS on both sides of the ball and that is NOT this Giant roster.
But as Giants fans can we not for a couple of freaking hours enjoy a win though rare when it happens!!GEEZ!!!
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The light clicked on in the Saints game and then every single player got hurt. He’s in a lose lose situation with some of the haters-what more could he have done today with the supporting cast being what it is????
This is rewriting history to fit your narrative. The offense was brutal before everyone got hurt in the Dallas game. For 53 minutes it was in New Orleans. Just like it was against Atlanta and Denver. So in 4 and a half games with everyone healthy we’ve had a game and six minutes of good offense.
Right because Golladay played all off-season and so did Toney. Give it a rest.
The offseason has to do what anything? They still weren’t synced up in the first half of game 5? Is that really the excuse you’re going with?
Yes. Which is horrible in every sense. But ask yourself-what chance did we have of continuing what happened in New Orleans? Realistically you can’t say anything but “no chance.” Not one of the key players in that attack is healthy! Not one. Doesn’t mean Jones is Tom Brady but you can honestly look at it and say that. We didn’t even involve Golladay in the attack down the field basically until the Saints game.
This level of excuse making is embarrassing. John Ross didn’t step on the field until literally the Saints game and had the biggest down field play of the game. Spare me the offense still needed to gel halfway through game 5 excuse.
1.DJ played a good game and for Debaser he did have a "Wow" moment with his one handed catch.
2.Defense played a good game against one of the worst QB's in the NFL who was benched in the 4th quarter.Darnold is a very bad QB.
3.Ojulari,Williams and McKinney also had very good games.Does this mean the defense has turned a corner...I doubt it.
4.For all the Sills backers their is a reason why he has always been on the PS.
As Giants fans we all know we have a talent issues on the roster on both sides of the ball due to bad drafts and FA signings. I don't think any Giant fan on BBI denies that fact. We have isuues with the owners, pro personnel dept., GM, coaches that need to be addressed this offseason. Nothing changes in that respect. You win games controlling the LOS on both sides of the ball and that is NOT this Giant roster.
But as Giants fans can we not for a couple of freaking hours enjoy a win though rare when it happens!!GEEZ!!!
The Jones’ phenomenon is incredible. For whatever reason his detractors become obsessed with talking those who enjoyed the win and loved how Daniel played out of our feel good day.
Their disdain for Jones the player allows every bad play to define who he is, and downplays a game like yesterday, where the eye test made it obvious how He carried this offense, by siting statistics that often don’t tell the story ,
I don’t know how his career will play out, I rooting hard that he s the guy, but I swear some of the posters here are really hoping for his failure
Seems as if they would rather be proven correct than have him succeed.
Nobody on here is saying Jones was terrible yesterday.
He turns the ball over too much
He bird dogs recievers
He can't nagaviate the pocket
He can't thorw on the run
He can't elevate the talent around him
ETC.
It never ends ... so many people want to drool over every other QB out there ... there is one Goat Brady ... Many QBs with lots of tallent never won anything Marino, Rivers etc. ... Mahomes couldn't when his line went to crap ... As great as Eli was in the Superbowls he won because of his team ... Everyone on that team made big plays not just him ... it is a team sport
It's a shame a player has to get shit on after a win just so someone on the Internet can defend thier opinion
Nobody on here is saying Jones was terrible yesterday.
I stopped caring about this stuff a while ago, but if this really how you felt you'd say it once and the thread would be an afterthought. Instead, you are the most active poster on this thread, and want desperately to have the last say with every poster you disagree with.
Don't pull back now, you are in too deep.
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How upset people get when people say “Jones was ok and not great”.
Nobody on here is saying Jones was terrible yesterday.
I stopped caring about this stuff a while ago, but if this really how you felt you'd say it once and the thread would be an afterthought. Instead, you are the most active poster on this thread, and want desperately to have the last say with every poster you disagree with.
Don't pull back now, you are in too deep.
So I should let people attack my fandom, call me names for not being wow’d by today’s performance and just leave the thread?
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How upset people get when people say “Jones was ok and not great”.
Nobody on here is saying Jones was terrible yesterday.
I stopped caring about this stuff a while ago, but if this really how you felt you'd say it once and the thread would be an afterthought. Instead, you are the most active poster on this thread, and want desperately to have the last say with every poster you disagree with.
Don't pull back now, you are in too deep.
So I should let people attack my fandom, call me names for not being wow’d by today’s performance and just leave the thread?
No your fandom should be attacked for wanting us to lose. There is a difference between rooting for a loss (as Terps and others have posted) and rooting for a win but not being disappointed if we lose.
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How upset people get when people say “Jones was ok and not great”.
Nobody on here is saying Jones was terrible yesterday.
I stopped caring about this stuff a while ago, but if this really how you felt you'd say it once and the thread would be an afterthought. Instead, you are the most active poster on this thread, and want desperately to have the last say with every poster you disagree with.
Don't pull back now, you are in too deep.
So I should let people attack my fandom, call me names for not being wow’d by today’s performance and just leave the thread?
No your fandom should be attacked for wanting us to lose. There is a difference between rooting for a loss (as Terps and others have posted) and rooting for a win but not being disappointed if we lose.
Sorry if it hurts your feelings I’d rather they end up 3-14 instead of 4-13.
There was a thread during the preseason asking what was acceptable to not blow up the front office and the roster. I gave a reasonable answer: 10-7 and a playoff appearance. No excuses. No bullshit.
Here we are at 2-5. If the Giants finish 8-2 and make the playoffs I swear to you I will shut up and not be critical about Gettleman, Jones, Barkley, or anyone else on this team. That will impress me. Honestly.
Anything short of that and they can fuck off.
You are just being a self-righteous jerk. If you can't see that, all I can say is that I am glad I don't have to listen to you in real life.
For example - the first loss of the year was a disaster. No excuses about that. The Washington loss - I basically put that game on Joe Judge. Say what you want about that, people can disagree with it. But it’s on him. He went conservative at two crucial parts of the game and it completely and utterly backfired, and we lost. The Atlanta loss - again - completely conservative gameplan against a team we should have beaten and we didn’t.
Now with this injury bullshit - if they go 8-9 or 9-8 are you still gonna say the team is awful? Are you still gonna say the team is terrible if they lose to the Chiefs next week without their entire starting OL and skill players? Still gonna say they suck if they lose at Tampa?
I get that we want to make the playoffs. Everyone does. And yeah - DG will not be here if they don’t.
But you can’t just continue to say “no excuses” when literally the entire offense is hurt right now. They have to play the hand their dealt. No team is gonna be good if the majority of their offense isn’t playing.
We beat the Saints on the road and the offense was cooking a bit. Then the injury wheels come off at Dallas and there’s not much you can do except keep playing, which they did today.
Damn.... a sensible post. WTH?
Also thought Jones did a good job picking up his Tackles that were allowing way too much pressure. He side-stepped more than a few edge rushers to keep plays alive on his own which is a good sign of improving pocket pressure (albeit out of desperation).
The results probably aren't favorable with any extension decision but as a fan I certainly applaud his effort/desire...
Did you even watch the game?
and also nobody cares who you know or what you do, it doesnt make you more knowledgable otnjist makes you sound like a prick.
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Here’s the thing man - there’s a big difference between just saying “anything other than 10-7 is unacceptable” and then being a realistic fan and reacting to what is occurring during the season.
For example - the first loss of the year was a disaster. No excuses about that. The Washington loss - I basically put that game on Joe Judge. Say what you want about that, people can disagree with it. But it’s on him. He went conservative at two crucial parts of the game and it completely and utterly backfired, and we lost. The Atlanta loss - again - completely conservative gameplan against a team we should have beaten and we didn’t.
Now with this injury bullshit - if they go 8-9 or 9-8 are you still gonna say the team is awful? Are you still gonna say the team is terrible if they lose to the Chiefs next week without their entire starting OL and skill players? Still gonna say they suck if they lose at Tampa?
I get that we want to make the playoffs. Everyone does. And yeah - DG will not be here if they don’t.
But you can’t just continue to say “no excuses” when literally the entire offense is hurt right now. They have to play the hand their dealt. No team is gonna be good if the majority of their offense isn’t playing.
We beat the Saints on the road and the offense was cooking a bit. Then the injury wheels come off at Dallas and there’s not much you can do except keep playing, which they did today.
Damn.... a sensible post. WTH?
Agree, posters should always be able to find and use excuses. It keeps the reality people in check...
Did you even watch the game?
and also nobody cares who you know or what you do, it doesnt make you more knowledgable otnjist makes you sound like a prick.
I said four straight short fields not field goals dumbass. If you’re going to call someone names at least learn how to fucking read.
That said, Daniel played well. No TO's was huge, and he led 2 sustained drives that led to 10 pts. And the FG drive was marred by some pretty bizarre playcalling in the red zone. Rolling your QB out when inside the 5, and you have only one receiver running a pattern? That said, when your offense has scored 3 points late in the 3rd quarter, I'd temper the praise just a bit.
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did you watch a different game from us from your awesome seats? 4 straight field goals? thats impressive seeing how Gano only kicked 3 and 1 was in thr 1st half..
Did you even watch the game?
and also nobody cares who you know or what you do, it doesnt make you more knowledgable otnjist makes you sound like a prick.
I said four straight short fields not field goals dumbass. If you’re going to call someone names at least learn how to fucking read.
My mistake read it wrong, doesnt just change the fact no one cares who you know what are you do, no one cares..
but my mistake for reading it wrong
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did you watch a different game from us from your awesome seats? 4 straight field goals? thats impressive seeing how Gano only kicked 3 and 1 was in thr 1st half..
Did you even watch the game?
and also nobody cares who you know or what you do, it doesnt make you more knowledgable otnjist makes you sound like a prick.
I said four straight short fields not field goals dumbass. If you’re going to call someone names at least learn how to fucking read.
My mistake read it wrong, doesnt just change the fact no one cares who you know what are you do, no one cares..
but my mistake for reading it wrong
I don’t give a shit if you or anyone else cares who I know and what I do.
Yeah I don't think I've ever seen 2 in 1 game at any level.
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