they got embarrased yesterday and almost lost their QB, have been struggling and are gonna want to come out Monday night on national TV in front of their home fans and aare really gonna look to make a statement that they are not one year wonders. Giants better be prepared!
People keep saying "if Mahomes plays". He cleared the concussion protocol immediately yesterday, would have come back in had the Chiefs not been down 27-3 in the 4th quarter, and did his postgame media session.
He's going to play.
It's a big spot for NYG to make a statement. But, the horses required aren't likely to show up out of thin air mid-season.
Bring on the Chiefs!
LOL...Disappearing act??
What Dupe are you again?
No fucking cookies for you.
I have had 10 years of getting excited after a win.
I start thinking about next week.
We can win one game right?
Any given Sunday right?
This is the spot where the Giants always disappoint me.
We usually get smacked around for the next two games.
See Saints game 2021, in the case your short term memories are addled.
So fucking forgive me if I throw a little water on this.
Beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead and we are 3-5.
Understand that the critics will not be satisfied yet.
It will not be moving the goal posts. It will be acknowledgement of reality. Beat the Raiders the following week and at 4-5 I will get a little encouraged.
If we beat the Chiefs and lose to the Raiders we will be 3-6 and all of our wins will be form outside the division.
Do you see where this season is likely headed?
Chill out.
2) IF (big IF) we win, does it go down as another win against a losing team or beating a good team? I think most would overvalue a win like this. I hope we have that problem!
3) On one hand, the Chiefs have lost to good teams. On the other hand, they have looked mediocre to worse in most games. Are they just not a good team any longer?
2) IF (big IF) we win, does it go down as another win against a losing team or beating a good team? I think most would overvalue a win like this. I hope we have that problem!
3) On one hand, the Chiefs have lost to good teams. On the other hand, they have looked mediocre to worse in most games. Are they just not a good team any longer?
1. Agree. A good effort in this game would be a step forward (kind of like the Tampa game last year).
2. If they beat Mahomes and win 2 games in a row as underdog it's a big step. I'd consider it equivalent to beating Seattle on the road last year (who was struggling at the time). This week they beat Sam D'arnold at home. Not a big deal that's a game they should win. Stacking that with a victory over Mahomes on the road would be a true accomplishment and put a lot on the Raider game ahead of bye week.
3. As long as Mahomes is playing and Reid is coaching they are a quality opponent, especially on the road. They are more beat up than usual right now but so are most teams the giants included. In week 6 they pounded Washington in Washington and in week 4 they pounded Philly in Philly.
3) On one hand, the Chiefs have lost to good teams. On the other hand, they have looked mediocre to worse in most games. Are they just not a good team any longer?
What gets lost with the Chiefs, too, is the dreaded SB hangover for the losing team. Happens quite a bit. That is a bitter pill to swallow (outside of New England, of course...)...
All world QB struggles with bad OL.
Difficult to hide a bad defense
They can’t protect Mahomes and their D is terrible. I think Jones can carve them up on the RPO
All that said, the Giants have zero answer for Kelce. He will have a crazy day
Then play a close game with Tampa giving us a moral victory.
Then get slaughtered by the Eagles.
Well I guess that prediction isn't looking so good right now. Yes the Giants line is not good, either. (well awful)
Anyway - If Golladay, Toney, Shepard and Barkley could play, then I would give the Giants a chance. The Giants defense was not playing up to expectations until yesterday. Which Giants defense shows up next Monday?
Well I guess that prediction isn't looking so good right now. Yes the Giants line is not good, either. (well awful)
What's wrong with their OL? Before yesterday, they were averaging 30ppg and leading in many new key metrics - EPA, DOVA, win expectancy, etc.
Well I guess that prediction isn't looking so good right now. Yes the Giants line is not good, either. (well awful)
Hi Section. I wrote that OP about the Kansas City Chiefs putting an entire new OL together in one offseason. Seemed like a tall task knowing that our guys haven't been able to do it with a decade behind them, but their GM seemed like he took an active, sensible approach.
Maybe go take a look and see what the Chiefs are still producing in terms of yards (3rd) and points (8th) with this entirely new OL. They also have one of the lowest pressure %s allowed in the league and are still putting up decent rushing yards with a backup RB.
Their playmakers are turning the ball over too much and their defense isn't stopping anyone. Both causing too many problems. But their rebuilt OL seems to be doing very well, so your views suggesting otherwise must be based on something else.
Section - do you care to share what that is with us?
Bring them on
Can't wait
fear being embarrassed by the Giants and pin their hopes
on Mahomes beating us by extending plays outside the pocket
Graham better have a plan for protecting the edge or smothering mahomes in the pocket(more do-able)
KC is a hurting team
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a group of folks on here that told us that the Chiefs totally new offensive line would show "us" how to rebuild an offensive line.
Well I guess that prediction isn't looking so good right now. Yes the Giants line is not good, either. (well awful)
Hi Section. I wrote that OP about the Kansas City Chiefs putting an entire new OL together in one offseason. Seemed like a tall task knowing that our guys haven't been able to do it with a decade behind them, but their GM seemed like he took an active, sensible approach.
Maybe go take a look and see what the Chiefs are still producing in terms of yards (3rd) and points (8th) with this entirely new OL. They also have one of the lowest pressure %s allowed in the league and are still putting up decent rushing yards with a backup RB.
Their playmakers are turning the ball over too much and their defense isn't stopping anyone. Both causing too many problems. But their rebuilt OL seems to be doing very well, so your views suggesting otherwise must be based on something else.
Section - do you care to share what that is with us?
I said we sucked. You said the Chiefs would be great and they would show us how to build a line. How did that work? They are not that good. Is it better than the Giants? Yes. Is the Chiefs new line better than last year. No. The only problem the Chiefs had last year was their starting tackles got hurt at the end of the year. So why blow up the whole line?
The great offensive numbers are because of Mahomes. Just like when the Packers had great offensive numbers yearly while Rodgers was getting sacked more than Eli and the Packers kept winning - it was because of Rodgers.
I really doubt they’re happy being 2-5, and I would think they’d go into every game a bit pissed about their record so far.
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a group of folks on here that told us that the Chiefs totally new offensive line would show "us" how to rebuild an offensive line.
Well I guess that prediction isn't looking so good right now. Yes the Giants line is not good, either. (well awful)
Hi Section. I wrote that OP about the Kansas City Chiefs putting an entire new OL together in one offseason. Seemed like a tall task knowing that our guys haven't been able to do it with a decade behind them, but their GM seemed like he took an active, sensible approach.
Maybe go take a look and see what the Chiefs are still producing in terms of yards (3rd) and points (8th) with this entirely new OL. They also have one of the lowest pressure %s allowed in the league and are still putting up decent rushing yards with a backup RB.
Their playmakers are turning the ball over too much and their defense isn't stopping anyone. Both causing too many problems. But their rebuilt OL seems to be doing very well, so your views suggesting otherwise must be based on something else.
Section - do you care to share what that is with us?
I said we sucked. You said the Chiefs would be great and they would show us how to build a line. How did that work? They are not that good. Is it better than the Giants? Yes. Is the Chiefs new line better than last year. No. The only problem the Chiefs had last year was their starting tackles got hurt at the end of the year. So why blow up the whole line?
The great offensive numbers are because of Mahomes. Just like when the Packers had great offensive numbers yearly while Rodgers was getting sacked more than Eli and the Packers kept winning - it was because of Rodgers.
What? Your post above is simply a mess of bad thoughts and poor positions.
You started this by taking a ridiculous (and erroneous) shot at my OP on how Kansas City was trying to rebuild their OL in one offseason. You seem to want to blame the Chiefs recent struggles on their OL even though it has been pointed out to you above that the new OL is performing just fine and their problems are elsewhwere. And nobody suggested the Chiefs new OL would be great...only that they were more than likely going to be rebuild it a quicker, better and more efficient fashion than the Giants could ever dream of. And they basically did.
And now you want to backtrack and suggest that KC didn't even need a new OL and that Mahomes is the only reason they are good anyway. As if they were wasting their time moving away from older, injured, and expensive players that may not hold up as well in the future. Where are you going with this nonsense?...as it isn't even relevant to your posting here, nor correct by the way.
And why take all these ridiculous positions? Because you simply can't handle in your typical NY Giant homer-fashion that the Chiefs are able to retool a historically high-performing OL in one offseason while the moron NYG Front Office hasn't been able to even stabilize our OL in a decade. And your silly disdain has to include taking a poor pot shot at anybody that recognizes that very fact.
I will attach that OP/Thread so you can refresh yourself on how you seem to have missed the salient points of it, and maybe it will help you retract some of the nonsense you have expressed above.
https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=611844