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Tom Brady Comment on Eli & Peyton's Show Last Night

Bob in Vt : 10/26/2021 10:25 am
Concerning offensive play calls near the goal line.

He mentioned something about how much it opens up play calling if you can run the ball there and how difficult it becomes if the other team knows you can't run the ball.

Anyone else catch that ... or get a better quote ? I found that comment interesting as we cannot run the ball when it matters.

Tom also mentioned how he loves crossing routes when the defense is playing zone in the end zone.
Just Because I Love to Brag  
M.S. : 10/26/2021 10:28 am : link

and call attention to myself (:-)

Ira
M.S. : 10/25/2021 6:54 am : link : reply

Something that doesn't get a whole lotta attention: a weak offensive line that cannot run block results in red zone futility.
The only goal line play that works for us  
cjac : 10/26/2021 10:31 am : link
is freak athlete Saquon Barkley leaping over everyone

there is no push whatsoever when we're inside the 5

Asking  
Andrew in Austin : 10/26/2021 10:41 am : link
because I genuinely don't know.

How often do we run Penny at the goal line? Seems like he genuinely results in nice short yardage gains when he touches the ball.

I know our OL sucks, but how much do our RBs add to the equation here in short yardage?
RE: The only goal line play that works for us  
M.S. : 10/26/2021 10:52 am : link
In comment 15429799 cjac said:
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is freak athlete Saquon Barkley leaping over everyone

there is no push whatsoever when we're inside the 5

Look, up in the sky!
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Saquon Barkley!
What the Giants do wrong  
section125 : 10/26/2021 11:01 am : link
is the "heavy" formation which tells the defense they are running. They can put 8 of 9 in the box.

If they spread it out - say two WRs and two in the slot, the DBs need to respect the pass. Or even two TEs and two split out. TEs could be blocking or they could be running a route.

Giants do not have a powerful line to blow people out of there.
Pretty sure he was kidding on the crossing routes  
Debaser : 10/26/2021 11:06 am : link
I can imagine those working better with man coverage than a bunch of d backs just waiting for where the ball is going
Well M.S. I love to brag as well :)  
BillT : 10/26/2021 11:09 am : link
The Giants red zone issues will continue
BillT : 10/25/2021 11:28 am : link : reply
We hear it from the commentators every week. To score in the red zone you have to be able to run in the red zone. We can't so we won't.
RE: Well M.S. I love to brag as well :)  
M.S. : 10/26/2021 11:18 am : link
In comment 15429852 BillT said:
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The Giants red zone issues will continue
BillT : 10/25/2021 11:28 am : link : reply
We hear it from the commentators every week. To score in the red zone you have to be able to run in the red zone. We can't so we won't.

Ha! Maybe we should make an offer to John Mara / Steve Tisch and rebuild our team the right way. Have you got $2-3 Billion dollars laying around?
So Brandon Jacobs in 2011  
Debaser : 10/26/2021 11:19 am : link
Was ranked 30th in the league in rushing. Somehow the Kong’s managed to score some points and do other things that year too.
Yea you also need a QBs  
Debaser : 10/26/2021 11:20 am : link
Who don’t suck
RE: Pretty sure he was kidding on the crossing routes  
Dan in the Springs : 10/26/2021 11:27 am : link
In comment 15429845 Debaser said:
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I can imagine those working better with man coverage than a bunch of d backs just waiting for where the ball is going


Yes - he was definitely kidding. You could see the smile on the faces of all 3 QB's.

Crossing routes in a shallow zone clearly not a winner.
RE: Yea you also need a QBs  
BestFeature : 10/26/2021 11:31 am : link
In comment 15429872 Debaser said:
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Who don’t suck


You are the absolute worst, this thread has nothing to do with Jones. Seriously, you're a complete POS as a poster. You may be Mother Theresa as a person but are a terrible poster.
RE: RE: Well M.S. I love to brag as well :)  
BillT : 10/26/2021 11:43 am : link
In comment 15429868 M.S. said:
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In comment 15429852 BillT said:


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The Giants red zone issues will continue
BillT : 10/25/2021 11:28 am : link : reply
We hear it from the commentators every week. To score in the red zone you have to be able to run in the red zone. We can't so we won't.


Ha! Maybe we should make an offer to John Mara / Steve Tisch and rebuild our team the right way. Have you got $2-3 Billion dollars laying around?

I do but unfortunately I’ve got it all tied up in a great opportunity I got in Florida swampland.
Ok whatever’s Brady RB is fernette who they  
Debaser : 10/26/2021 11:44 am : link
FOund on a scrapbook heap
There was also mention of NOT  
EricJ : 10/26/2021 11:45 am : link
going to the bunch formation at the goal line and that teams should put a couple of WRs on the field in those situations.
RE: RE: Yea you also need a QBs  
section125 : 10/26/2021 11:46 am : link
In comment 15429895 BestFeature said:
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In comment 15429872 Debaser said:


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Who don’t suck



You are the absolute worst, this thread has nothing to do with Jones. Seriously, you're a complete POS as a poster. You may be Mother Theresa as a person but are a terrible poster.


Don't denigrate Mother Theresa. She definitely knew more about football than DBer.
I was going to write “Daniel Jones Sucks!”  
map7711 : 10/26/2021 12:00 pm : link
As a joke.

But a poster did it actually being serious

Yikes there are some really really awful posters on here.
We definitely need to show different looks out of the backfield in the  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/26/2021 12:06 pm : link
redzone. I know Coughlin and Gillbride used to love lining up everyone on the goal and power it in for a yard or 2...but this team just doesn't have the talent up front for that. We are going to score by making the defense guess wrong. Unfortunately, Garrett only seems capable of fooling his own players most of the time.
RE: What the Giants do wrong  
Debaser : 10/26/2021 2:55 pm : link
In comment 15429834 section125 said:
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is the "heavy" formation which tells the defense they are running. They can put 8 of 9 in the box.

If they spread it out - say two WRs and two in the slot, the DBs need to respect the pass. Or even two TEs and two split out. TEs could be blocking or they could be running a route.

Giants do not have a powerful line to blow people out of there.


Yea that also a conversation that 3 HOFers were having. But by all means -- lets see that more. Let's see it will amount to what will become a respectable TD stat count or a few embarrassing pick 6s.

I suspect it might be a little of both. I am sure on the Cowboys Garrett woul dh ave loved running it there but at the same time he must be like man " I don't have Dak or Romo here"
RE: RE: What the Giants do wrong  
Skully88 : 10/26/2021 9:56 pm : link
In comment 15430311 Debaser said:
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In comment 15429834 section125 said:


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is the "heavy" formation which tells the defense they are running. They can put 8 of 9 in the box.

If they spread it out - say two WRs and two in the slot, the DBs need to respect the pass. Or even two TEs and two split out. TEs could be blocking or they could be running a route.

Giants do not have a powerful line to blow people out of there.



Yea that also a conversation that 3 HOFers were having. But by all means -- lets see that more. Let's see it will amount to what will become a respectable TD stat count or a few embarrassing pick 6s.

I suspect it might be a little of both. I am sure on the Cowboys Garrett woul dh ave loved running it there but at the same time he must be like man " I don't have Dak or Romo here"


Actually DoucheBagger, what he is saying is “I wish I had Tyron Smith, Zach Martin and Zeke Elliot here….” It works both ways tool…; If we wanted the same shit from you over and over and over we’d squeeze your simple head. Let it go for awhile and see where this goes…. Enough with the same garbage.

Good night.
RE: RE: RE: What the Giants do wrong  
Debaser : 10/27/2021 7:37 am : link
In comment 15430974 Skully88 said:
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In comment 15430311 Debaser said:


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In comment 15429834 section125 said:


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is the "heavy" formation which tells the defense they are running. They can put 8 of 9 in the box.

If they spread it out - say two WRs and two in the slot, the DBs need to respect the pass. Or even two TEs and two split out. TEs could be blocking or they could be running a route.

Giants do not have a powerful line to blow people out of there.



Yea that also a conversation that 3 HOFers were having. But by all means -- lets see that more. Let's see it will amount to what will become a respectable TD stat count or a few embarrassing pick 6s.

I suspect it might be a little of both. I am sure on the Cowboys Garrett woul dh ave loved running it there but at the same time he must be like man " I don't have Dak or Romo here"



Actually DoucheBagger, what he is saying is “I wish I had Tyron Smith, Zach Martin and Zeke Elliot here….” It works both ways tool…; If we wanted the same shit from you over and over and over we’d squeeze your simple head. Let it go for awhile and see where this goes…. Enough with the same garbage.

Good night.


Oh Zeke Elliot. THat makes no sense. But in your Jones town simple brain it does. That is why he runs it with big formations anyway right with no Zeke?

I can imagine DOs licking their chops at the Giants passing in a spread offense with Daniel Jones. We've seen it. He locks into a receiver , completely oblivious to surrounding defensive ends who just know the ball out of his hands. I saw it at the Atlanta game.

We're really going to have to face some cold and hard truths that Jones is probably not making that 3 year leap which mean he is basically just a good Duke athlete who runs fast not an NFL QB.

By the way this season started before last week you know. He had Golladay , Barkley . He has shown he doesn't know how to use them.
*spread in the red zone  
Debaser : 10/27/2021 7:39 am : link
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That segment was  
Pete in MD : 10/27/2021 8:40 am : link
great, except Eli was having technical difficulties bc of the monsoon in NJ at the time. I think he would have added more but couldn't hear them right away and was trying to watch the game on a phone.

But there were all these QB inside jokes. It was like being let into the private club for a few minutes.
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