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NFT: 10/26 - Sixers @ Knicks

Heisenberg : 10/26/2021 11:58 am
Embiid and Drummond are Questionable. I'm guessing they play.

Nerlens is Out

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Immanuel Quickley stared at the court. In front of him stood his new teammates, his new coaches. Excitement welled up inside him. It was his first practice as an NBA player—as a New York Knick.

Quickley had dreamed of being here ever since he was a fifth-grader playing rec ball, back when his mother and coach, Nitrease, told him to take it easy on the other kids. “I’m going to need you to not take the ball from them,” she told him one game during a timeout. Quickley returned to the court and snatched the ball from the player he was guarding.

He was just as persistent that fall afternoon in 2020, as his first Knicks practice began. The coaches quickly divided up players for teams. But when they got to Quickley, they handed him a green-colored jersey, which signified that he would be relegated to the third—and potentially even fourth—practice squad. Green? Really?

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I mean is there anyone in here who didn't think  
Stu11 : 10/26/2021 9:27 pm : link
We were gonna sweat this one out? Lol
Props to Mitch for his D so far tonight  
adamg : 10/26/2021 9:30 pm : link
Embiid has been a non factor
That technical is why Drummond is a losing player  
GNewGiants : 10/26/2021 9:30 pm : link
Your team 8 making a run. You have the momentum and yo7 cry about a bang bang call.

Just stupid.
RE: RE: Put Rj on the fucking bench please  
nygiants16 : 10/26/2021 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15430931 Leg of Theismann said:
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That was so frustrating how careless he was with the basketball on that one play in transition toward the end of the 3rd quarter. Like you almost lose it once, Rose saves it and gives it back to you, and you’re immediately reckless with the ball again and lose it. Secure the fucking basketball, you can’t score if you turn it over


I hate stupid basketball, and it seems like he constantly plays stupid basketball, i dont care if you miss, but stop dribbling aimlessly, you are going nowhere..
RE: That technical is why Drummond is a losing player  
nygiants16 : 10/26/2021 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15430936 GNewGiants said:
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Your team 8 making a run. You have the momentum and yo7 cry about a bang bang call.

Just stupid.


such a stupid player
Nice little spurt there  
nygiants16 : 10/26/2021 9:31 pm : link
now finish it
The surest bet in Knicks basketball  
Stu11 : 10/26/2021 9:33 pm : link
Is that I don't care how many great energy plays Obi makes in a row if he fucks up on D Thibs will call an instant TO. There's noone in earth Thibs loves to scream at more for 2 minutes than Obi ha ha
Fournier!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/26/2021 9:37 pm : link
& 1.
What a roll  
widmerseyebrow : 10/26/2021 9:37 pm : link
.
Fournier has been awesome defensively  
nygiants16 : 10/26/2021 9:37 pm : link
..
Should wrap it up  
GNewGiants : 10/26/2021 9:39 pm : link
Good win Knicks fans.
3-1.  
bceagle05 : 10/26/2021 9:46 pm : link
That loss still pisses me off, but a good start nonetheless. Thursday will be fun.
Fournier completely locked down Curry  
nygiants16 : 10/26/2021 9:46 pm : link
..
Knicks really held Embiid in check tonight  
dpinzow : 10/26/2021 9:46 pm : link
only 14 points, 6 rebounds. Mitch and Taj did quite a job on him
7 assists to 1 TO tonight for Randle  
adamg : 10/26/2021 9:47 pm : link
Started out slow but didn't make many mistakes
Knicks Bulls  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/26/2021 9:49 pm : link
Thursday. Big game. I feel in my teens again! Haha.
Finally beat the Sixers  
dpinzow : 10/26/2021 9:49 pm : link
They took the Magic for granted a couple of nights ago which was a mistake. But they definitely showed up tonight and really locked down Embiid
RE: 7 assists to 1 TO tonight for Randle  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/26/2021 9:49 pm : link
In comment 15430960 adamg said:
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Started out slow but didn't make many mistakes


Lovely that he has other guys to lean on now.
If Allie LaForce wants to interview me  
GNewGiants : 10/26/2021 9:50 pm : link
I don’t know what I would do.
RE: If Allie LaForce wants to interview me  
Stu11 : 10/26/2021 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15430968 GNewGiants said:
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I don’t know what I would do.

She's like Rebecca Harlow's hot sister
RE: RE: 7 assists to 1 TO tonight for Randle  
dpinzow : 10/26/2021 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15430966 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Started out slow but didn't make many mistakes



Lovely that he has other guys to lean on now.


We saw what Kemba can do when he's having a good night. Knicks are actually a very tough team to beat when Kemba plays well because you know Rose will also play well so that's the point guard taken care of
RE: Knicks Bulls  
nygiants16 : 10/26/2021 9:55 pm : link
In comment 15430963 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Thursday. Big game. I feel in my teens again! Haha.


Will be bjg to get a win on their homecourt, will be an interesting matchup, who guards randle for them
RE: I mean is there anyone in here who didn't think  
Leg of Theismann : 10/26/2021 9:57 pm : link
In comment 15430933 Stu11 said:
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We were gonna sweat this one out? Lol


I was waiting all game long for that run by the Sixers to make it close. I basically had it in my head if we could just be up by 25 going into the 4th we’d be okay lol. When we were only up like 19 I was sweating it out the whole 4th
RE: RE: Knicks Bulls  
GNewGiants : 10/26/2021 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15430973 nygiants16 said:
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Thursday. Big game. I feel in my teens again! Haha.



Will be bjg to get a win on their homecourt, will be an interesting matchup, who guards randle for them


Williams
RE: RE: RE: Knicks Bulls  
nygiants16 : 10/26/2021 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15430977 GNewGiants said:
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Thursday. Big game. I feel in my teens again! Haha.



Will be bjg to get a win on their homecourt, will be an interesting matchup, who guards randle for them



Williams


isnt he out?
I thought he was hurt??  
nygiants16 : 10/26/2021 9:59 pm : link
guess not
The key to that Knicks-Bulls game is guard play  
dpinzow : 10/26/2021 10:05 pm : link
Can the Knicks guards keep up with Lavine and Lonzo. If they can, they're in good shape. If they can't it could be a long night
RE: The key to that Knicks-Bulls game is guard play  
GNewGiants : 10/26/2021 10:07 pm : link
In comment 15430981 dpinzow said:
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Can the Knicks guards keep up with Lavine and Lonzo. If they can, they're in good shape. If they can't it could be a long night


Knicks bench can have their way against Chicago’s. The bulls basically rely on their 4 best players to do everything offensively. Grinding them down is the key.
Just curious, but has Kemba and Rose been on the floor at the same  
Anakim : 10/26/2021 10:11 pm : link
time at all so far this season?
RE: RE: The key to that Knicks-Bulls game is guard play  
dpinzow : 10/26/2021 10:13 pm : link
In comment 15430983 GNewGiants said:
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Can the Knicks guards keep up with Lavine and Lonzo. If they can, they're in good shape. If they can't it could be a long night



Knicks bench can have their way against Chicago’s. The bulls basically rely on their 4 best players to do everything offensively. Grinding them down is the key.


The Knicks are starting to remind me a little bit of Utah last year in terms of shooting the threes, the defense and the depth
RE: RE: RE: The key to that Knicks-Bulls game is guard play  
bceagle05 : 10/26/2021 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15430987 dpinzow said:
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The Knicks are starting to remind me a little bit of Utah last year in terms of shooting the threes, the defense and the depth

Excellent comparison, and I’d like to think Walt Perrin (assistant GM formerly of Utah) has something to do with that.
Bulls havnt played a good team yet  
nygiants16 : 10/26/2021 10:44 pm : link
In a wide open game and uo big its easier to play together, when the game gets close and its half court how do they play?

How does Derozan and Ball do off the ball with Lavine creating..

Will be an interesting early season matchup
Big kudos to Randle  
Stu11 : 10/26/2021 11:00 pm : link
He realized his shot wasn't on and instead of forcing it he was dishing and getting everyone involved. There was one possession in the 4th were Kemba got it to him figuring he'd go iso, and Randle refused and slammed the ball back to Kemba and he got it to Fournier for that wild runner that turned into a 3 point play. Great to see Kemba light it up finally. Hopefully this one settles him down and gets him going. Obi also gave them great minutes, Quick too. Those 3 really spearheaded the run the gave them the lead for good. Also Mitch was terrific. Solid D on Embiid, and when things got a tad bit interesting he got some big offensive rebounds to keep them at bay.
RE: Bulls havnt played a good team yet  
Leg of Theismann : 10/26/2021 11:34 pm : link
In comment 15431003 nygiants16 said:
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In a wide open game and uo big its easier to play together, when the game gets close and its half court how do they play?

How does Derozan and Ball do off the ball with Lavine creating..

Will be an interesting early season matchup


I was gonna say everyone is giving the Bulls so much credit already. I think everyone was just ready to give them props because so many picked them to be a contender in the East this year. But look at who they've played... the Cade-less Pistons twice, the Zion-less Pelicans, and they were a missed 3 away from going to OT with the Raptors.

I'm not sold on the Bulls yet, but that's also because I'm one of the ones that wasn't sold on them as offseason champs. My thought is: when has Lonzo ever suddenly turned a team into a contender? And really the same can be said about Derozan, but Lonzo especially hasn't accomplished anything in this league yet despite all the hype about him. So far it's all just been speculation and potential: talking about "if you just get him in the right situation, if you just use him like this or that, if he could just improve x y z part of his game, etc."... He's been in the league for like 5 years now and honestly hasn't done anything. I know I sound like a Lonzo-hater but I'm just saying they hype about him this past offseason was crazy to me. Let's see how this really pans out. Also he talked shit about Nas and Illmatic not being a classic album so technically he should've been disqualified from every possibly being on the Knicks anyway lol.
should say:  
Leg of Theismann : 10/26/2021 11:35 pm : link
Derozan is truly a good player, I'm not knocking him and not conflating him with Lonzo, but just signing names doesn't automatically make you a contender.
Thursday should be a great matchup  
Heisenberg : 10/27/2021 7:42 am : link
Looking forward to the game and seeing this new Bulls team.
This is going to be such a fun season  
Mike in NJ : 10/27/2021 8:06 am : link
This team is very fun to watch. The thing that is most refreshing is that everyone that plays is actually good at basketball, and we aren't trotting out bums like Elfrid Payton any more.

After 4 games, a few things that have stood out to me:

- Mitch Robinson is significantly improved. He is a real presence out there defensively, and has rebounded the ball much better than in the past. I don't even think he is in shape condition wise yet, so we may even see more from him as the year goes on. Yeah he is still limited offensively, but as long as he can stay healthy I think extending him is a no brainer.

- Besides Mitch, I think Obi Toppin is clearly the most improved player on the team. The knock on him out of Dayton was that he was a total zero on defense, but he has actually been respectable on that end of the court. He also bring awesome energy to the second unit, and is almost unstoppable on the break.

- It really feels like Kemba and RJ are still trying to figure out their roles within the first unit. Randle obviously is going to get his, Fournier seems to have already found where to fit in, but Walker and Barrett have been pretty hesitant. It was great to see Walker take over for a bit last night, but in general I have been a little surprised at how passively he has played. As for Barrett, he just seems timid out there, like he is playing to avoid mistakes but then is making them because he is thinking and not reacting. It will be interesting to watch to see how these two settle in over the next few weeks.

- Also, Julius Randle is a beast. Legit star player that will be in the conversation for All-NBA again.
Whats crazy  
nygiants16 : 10/27/2021 8:29 am : link
is that the Knicks havnt had a game yet where everyone on the team has a played well and they have 2 blowouts and scored 138 in the other game..

Last night Randle didnt shoot well at all but of course he rebounded and dished..

Rj didnt play well at all, had a couple of 3s and a couple kf drives but nothing great..

Kemba in the first 3 games didnt really do much at all..

When this team puts it all together they can be a dangerous team, Kemba can do this consistently which is yet to be seen but man this team will be tough to beat..

and what i was most impressed eith last night? they played faster and they still held Philly under 100 and Philly looked gassed, thr Knicks steam rolled them in the 2nd quarter
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/27/2021 8:54 am : link
I caught some of Bulls Raps the other night. Chicago almost coughed up a huge lead, but DeRozan bailed them out. Their defense has been damn good, but they've played some bad teams with some stars out. Thursday begins a really tough stretch for them, including their annual 'Circus trip'.
I hope the Knicks players  
nygiants16 : 10/27/2021 9:34 am : link
saw Barkley say the Bulls are going to win GUARANTEED...I have feeling both teams come out hard trying to prove something
I watched some of the Spurs-Lakers game  
GNewGiants : 10/27/2021 9:37 am : link
Westbrook and Davis had monster games. Not ironic that Lebron didnt play. Westbrook is going to be very ineffective with Lebron. Their styles just dont mesh.
From what I've seen Bulls fans have gotten quite cocky  
Strahan91 : 10/27/2021 9:43 am : link
with their 4-0 start against poor teams all missing their best players. You can only beat who you play and the Knicks did cough one up to a poor Magic team but I'm not sold on this being a really good Bulls team.
solid win last night - early days but first place  
Del Shofner : 10/27/2021 9:50 am : link
in the division looks nice. Tomorrow night in Chicago will be a real test.
Eh...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/27/2021 10:04 am : link
Let Bulls fans be excited. They are relevant for the first time in years.
RE: From what I've seen Bulls fans have gotten quite cocky  
GNewGiants : 10/27/2021 10:09 am : link
In comment 15431195 Strahan91 said:
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with their 4-0 start against poor teams all missing their best players. You can only beat who you play and the Knicks did cough one up to a poor Magic team but I'm not sold on this being a really good Bulls team.


They’re not close to being a contender but I think they can give anyone a series. They’re fun to watch for the fire time since Rose/Butler played.
I have a feeling that the Knicks are really gonna hammer the Bulls  
Greg from LI : 10/27/2021 10:09 am : link
And it will take plastic surgery to remove the smile from my face if that happens
Lavine has torn ligaments in non shooting hand  
nygiants16 : 10/27/2021 10:32 am : link
Thumb, but intends to play through it and just has to manage the pain
From Twitter  
ajr2456 : 10/27/2021 11:47 am : link
per @cleantheglass (which filters out garbage time) the 3-1 Knicks are:

5th in Net Rating (+10.9)
2nd in Offense (116.3)
11th in Defense (105.4)

So, a very good morning to you, fan of a good-to-very-good basketball team.
RE: This is going to be such a fun season  
TyreeHelmet : 10/27/2021 11:52 am : link
In comment 15431107 Mike in NJ said:
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This team is very fun to watch. The thing that is most refreshing is that everyone that plays is actually good at basketball, and we aren't trotting out bums like Elfrid Payton any more.

After 4 games, a few things that have stood out to me:

- Mitch Robinson is significantly improved. He is a real presence out there defensively, and has rebounded the ball much better than in the past. I don't even think he is in shape condition wise yet, so we may even see more from him as the year goes on. Yeah he is still limited offensively, but as long as he can stay healthy I think extending him is a no brainer.

- Besides Mitch, I think Obi Toppin is clearly the most improved player on the team. The knock on him out of Dayton was that he was a total zero on defense, but he has actually been respectable on that end of the court. He also bring awesome energy to the second unit, and is almost unstoppable on the break.

- It really feels like Kemba and RJ are still trying to figure out their roles within the first unit. Randle obviously is going to get his, Fournier seems to have already found where to fit in, but Walker and Barrett have been pretty hesitant. It was great to see Walker take over for a bit last night, but in general I have been a little surprised at how passively he has played. As for Barrett, he just seems timid out there, like he is playing to avoid mistakes but then is making them because he is thinking and not reacting. It will be interesting to watch to see how these two settle in over the next few weeks.

- Also, Julius Randle is a beast. Legit star player that will be in the conversation for All-NBA again.


Really good post and agree with everything. I was hard on Toppin this year but its been great to see him so improved. Hopefully he keeps improving.

Mitch has been outstanding. His added weight has definitely helped and he hasn't lost his bounce. He has been tremendous as a rim protector and rebounder. Next step is showing a little offense but he's been great.

Derrick Rose has been really great for the Knicks. What a trade last year for him and cool to see him revive his career here. He is an elite backup point guard and will definitely be in contention for 6th man of the year.

Love having Thibs here- just a great head coach and puts his team in position to win every night.
Mitch  
DanMetroMan : 10/27/2021 11:52 am : link
is a true difference maker, please stay healthy!
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