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Watson to Dolphins Deal in Place

UConn4523 : 10/26/2021 7:56 pm
pending legal review, whatever that means.
Barry Jackson Tweet - ( New Window )
So,  
Gman11 : 10/26/2021 7:57 pm : link
what do they do with Tua?
Doesn’t sound like Watson will be immediately  
UConn4523 : 10/26/2021 7:57 pm : link
available but either way they just sit on Tua until someone makes them a good offer.
Absurd  
BigBlueShock : 10/26/2021 7:59 pm : link
Just so I have this right, they want answers from Goodell on what type of suspension he may be facing, even though Goodell couldn’t possibly answer that at this point? Alrighty then!
How can anybody give clarity on the legal situation  
Producer : 10/26/2021 8:02 pm : link
Goodell doesn't control the judicial system, nor does he know what other shoes will drop. This trade isn't happening until after the season at the earliest.
HAHAHA.  
AcidTest : 10/26/2021 8:04 pm : link
Ridiculous. Nobody knows when his legal problems will be resolved. Nor could they. The deal is contingent on something that is a total unknown.
It doesn’t make any sense  
UConn4523 : 10/26/2021 8:04 pm : link
completely understand why the nfl wants nothing to do with it but no idea what Miami thinks can be done about it in less than a week.
Based on that tweet...  
bw in dc : 10/26/2021 8:06 pm : link
I can't see how that deal gets done with those parameters required.
huuuuuuhhh??  
BigBlueJ : 10/26/2021 8:11 pm : link
oookkk
Have no idea what Miami is thinking here  
BSIMatt : 10/26/2021 8:38 pm : link
Tank for Tua mentality was a better look.
It makes sense if the question is- if we trade for him  
jvm52106 : 10/26/2021 8:43 pm : link
are we allowed to play him or will he be suspended? Right now the NFL is letting Houston just sit him- inactive- week after week. The question is what if he were to suit up, would the NFL allow him to play
RE: It makes sense if the question is- if we trade for him  
FStubbs : 10/26/2021 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15430884 jvm52106 said:
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are we allowed to play him or will he be suspended? Right now the NFL is letting Houston just sit him- inactive- week after week. The question is what if he were to suit up, would the NFL allow him to play


There's no way. The NFL would suspend him indefinitely immediately.

Miami once seemed like a team with a plan but it looks like they don't.
On one hand  
Breeze_94 : 10/26/2021 9:40 pm : link
it would be nice to see Watson come in and win a few games so Philly doesn't end up with a top 10 pick.

But, I also remembered the Giants have Miamis pick in the 3rd round so maybe not too many wins...
RE: So,  
FStubbs : 10/26/2021 9:42 pm : link
In comment 15430796 Gman11 said:
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what do they do with Tua?


I thought the rumor was Tua was going to Washington. Miami probably actually needs that pick because Houston no doubt wants a 2022 first rounder as part of the deal and Miami doesn't have one.
RE: On one hand  
Jay on the Island : 10/26/2021 9:47 pm : link
In comment 15430953 Breeze_94 said:
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it would be nice to see Watson come in and win a few games so Philly doesn't end up with a top 10 pick.

But, I also remembered the Giants have Miamis pick in the 3rd round so maybe not too many wins...

It’s the 3rd round, I would much rather have the pick be in the late teens even if that means the giants pick is later. It would be very bad if that pick ends up being a top 10 even top 5 pick.
RE: So,  
bwitz : 10/26/2021 10:30 pm : link
In comment 15430796 Gman11 said:
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what do they do with Tua?


What’s it matter Tua ya?

Yup.
That tweet sort of misrepresents the actual Chronicle article  
Mad Mike : 10/26/2021 11:35 pm : link
Regarding "clarity" on Watson's status, the article simply states:
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Like other teams that have shown interest in Watson, the Dolphins preferred his legal issues be resolved before getting serious about the negotiations, and, hopefully, finalizing a trade.
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Obviously, Ross would want to know from Goodell if a suspension would be forthcoming after the trade.

It doesn't say anything about wanting his legal issues resolved. The article seems to simply be saying, as jvm suggested, the Dolphins want to know if they acquire him, and want to play him right away, would he be suspended or put on the exempt list blocking that. (It makes sense that they might also want to know, if, based on what the league knows now, Goodell has a sense of what suspension might be coming in time. But nothing in the article suggests they need a resolution, or even clarity, on that to move forward).
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I guess Miami  
Joe Beckwith : 10/26/2021 11:40 pm : link
is willing to take the PR heat from rights groups for alleged, at this point, sexual assault charges of over 20 women? And apparently so is the NFL, that Congress is asking for re the release of 650,000 e-mail of the WFT front office alleged or admitted sexism, et. al.?

Dumb x Stupid = Idiocy.
RE: I guess Miami  
DonQuixote : 10/27/2021 1:02 am : link
In comment 15431036 Joe Beckwith said:
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is willing to take the PR heat from rights groups for alleged, at this point, sexual assault charges of over 20 women? And apparently so is the NFL, that Congress is asking for re the release of 650,000 e-mail of the WFT front office alleged or admitted sexism, et. al.?

Dumb x Stupid = Idiocy.

^this
I agree it is a very fine line But  
jvm52106 : 10/27/2021 6:26 am : link
can the NFL just leave him in limbo while nothing is happening on the legal front? Watson should either be allowed to play or be suspended. This defacto suspension via being inactive is beyond stupid. The Texans are essentially doing the NFL's dirty work for them.
Pending legal review  
Dnew15 : 10/27/2021 7:08 am : link
made me laugh...

Isn't his whole life currently pending legal review...forget about football????
or maybe  
HomerJones45 : 10/27/2021 7:30 am : link
the so-called "cancel culture" is starting to lose its sting

or

the plaintiffs have concluded that having him play and generating millions in salary is better for them than having him suspended and earning nothing

or

these are allegations and nothing has been proven, and the union would fight an attempt to suspend a highly paid player over allegations
RE: I agree it is a very fine line But  
UConn4523 : 10/27/2021 7:39 am : link
In comment 15431065 jvm52106 said:
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can the NFL just leave him in limbo while nothing is happening on the legal front? Watson should either be allowed to play or be suspended. This defacto suspension via being inactive is beyond stupid. The Texans are essentially doing the NFL's dirty work for them.


It sounds like he can play for the Texans but either he doesn’t want to or they don’t want him to (likely both). The trade is their problem (player and team).
Don/t like it!!!  
Grizz99 : 10/27/2021 7:58 am : link
I think the NFL constantly usurps itself; it is an entertainment business and not a vehicle for implementing social change or consciousness.
250 million to combat "systemic Racism".
Refusal to give the sovereign state of Texas the superbowl unless transgender bathrooms are included in public places.
Whether i agree with these policies or not, is it an entertainment businesses job to promulgate controversial social policies?
Should a corporation be commissioning (and spending millions) to independently investigate a potential criminal act or is that usurping the role of the justice Dept.?
In my very tentative judgment, the NFL is badly exceeding itself. Let the investigation remain with the criminal depts and the judgments from the Justice system. Until and if they convict, he should be free to earn a living. And I'd extend it: The NFL has no right to take away that basic right (to earn a living falling under the constitutional "right to the pursuit of happiness").
I think we're seeing something awful and dangerous happening and we're cloaking the loss of basic freedoms under the banner and moment of "social improvement"; and maybe entering the world of the Red Queen...." off with his head, sentence first, judgment (guilt or innocence) later...



RE: Don/t like it!!!  
Producer : 10/27/2021 8:08 am : link
In comment 15431105 Grizz99 said:
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I think the NFL constantly usurps itself; it is an entertainment business and not a vehicle for implementing social change or consciousness.
250 million to combat "systemic Racism".
Refusal to give the sovereign state of Texas the superbowl unless transgender bathrooms are included in public places.
Whether i agree with these policies or not, is it an entertainment businesses job to promulgate controversial social policies?
Should a corporation be commissioning (and spending millions) to independently investigate a potential criminal act or is that usurping the role of the justice Dept.?
In my very tentative judgment, the NFL is badly exceeding itself. Let the investigation remain with the criminal depts and the judgments from the Justice system. Until and if they convict, he should be free to earn a living. And I'd extend it: The NFL has no right to take away that basic right (to earn a living falling under the constitutional "right to the pursuit of happiness").
I think we're seeing something awful and dangerous happening and we're cloaking the loss of basic freedoms under the banner and moment of "social improvement"; and maybe entering the world of the Red Queen...." off with his head, sentence first, judgment (guilt or innocence) later...




Since no Super Bowl venue has trans bathrooms I can only assume you are misrepresenting the issue with Texas, and you probably know it.
NO  
Grizz99 : 10/27/2021 8:16 am : link
if I have the details wrong it is still the case (as I understand it) that the NFL used the superbowl and the subsidiary, revenue it generates as a wedge to foster social change on tansexual issue.
i will research and if wrong offer an apology.
The headlines read...NFL THREATENS TeXAS OVER TRANGENDER BILL  
Grizz99 : 10/27/2021 8:28 am : link
The National Football League — the subject of many controversies, particularly under the leadership of Commissioner Roger Goodell — has now needlessly injected itself into the transgender bathroom debate. The NFL has threatened to punish Texas if it forges ahead with a bill prohibiting transgender individuals from using bathrooms based on their “gender identity.”

Texas Senate Bill 6 would require transgender individuals to use bathrooms in public schools, in government buildings, and on public university campuses according to their biological sex, regardless of whether they identify with a different gender. The bill would also stop cities from passing ordinances that would allow transgender individuals to choose which bathroom to use.

Republican State Senator Lois Kolkhorst filed SB6 earlier this year, citing some of the state’s “divisive ordinances” having to do with transgender bathroom regulations, including a Houston ordinance that would have made it illegal to “discriminate” against someone based on 15 different “protected characteristics,” though that ordinance was nixed by voters.

“I filed this legislation not to start a controversy but to end one,” Kolkhorst explained.

But according to the NFL, it’s game on. NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy has threatened to bar the state of Texas from hosting future Super Bowls if the bill is passed into law.

“The NFL embraces inclusiveness. We want all fans to feel welcomed at our events and NFL policies prohibit discrimination based on age, gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, or any other improper standard,” McCarthy said. “If a proposal that is discriminatory or inconsistent with our values were to become law there, that would certainly be a factor considered when thinking about awarding future events,” he added, speaking of the new legislation.

I repeat: The NFL is an entertainment industry, i don't think - whether i agree or disagreee with the specific policies - that they should be an advocate for controversial social change. Moreover, i don't think they should be judging a player's innocence or guilt and that should remain the job of the criminal and justice dept. Watson is innocent until proven guilty in A COURT OF LAW and by a jury of his peers...and anything else is a transgression of his constitutional rights.

"Sentence first, verdict later" is the exact quote of the Red Queen.



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