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Peppers decision

CMicks3110 : 10/26/2021 8:25 pm
Do you re-sign him?
What do you think he'll cost?
Do you think he wants to stay?

I personally love Peppers, as long as we can get him in the right role, and if we add some Edge rushers, as I expect to in the draft, and use him in his hybrid safety/linebacker role, he can be an excellent piece on our defense. Not a star, but an unusual element to mix in with much of what we're trying to do.

If I'm Peppers, I've gotta think I want to re-establish my value, the Giants have been reducing my snaps, but do i really want to risk my next big contract on an unknown organization without a familiar medical team supporting my rehab. That's a risk too.

We'll see I guess.
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Injuring it this late in the season  
Biteymax22 : 10/27/2021 8:46 am : link
He won't be ready to start next year. Unless he finds a team willing to sign him knowing he'll be on PUP he likely isn't going to be on a roster for the start of the season.

Don't be shocked if you hear the "Giants are checking in with his agent" and he's brought back mid season when he's healthy on a cheap deal.
RE: What's the difference between the ACL rupture and ACL tear?  
Biteymax22 : 10/27/2021 8:49 am : link
In comment 15430924 Breeze_94 said:
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I'd assume rupture is worse? Any difference on timeline?

I've seen others say he won't be back until midseason but I'm not sure that is correct (at least for a tear). Guys can come back from an ACL in 9-10 months (granted not 100% back often times). Saquon had his surgery on October 30th last year and was back to full contact by September 1st

Bud Dupree tore his ACL on 12/3 and was ready for week 1 IIRC.


Rupture just means its a full tear. I don't think you can count on a Bud Dupree type recovery as it was faster than typical.
The problem with Peppers has always been the same problem  
RCPhoenix : 10/27/2021 8:55 am : link
He's a great athlete who doesn't fit into a specific position on defense. Not fast enough for a safety, not the right body type for a LB. That means he can flash on some plays b/c of his athletic ability but can be a liability at other times.

He's probably played his last game as a Giant.
RE: What's the difference between the ACL rupture and ACL tear?  
upnyg : 10/27/2021 8:55 am : link
In comment 15430924 Breeze_94 said:
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I'd assume rupture is worse? Any difference on timeline?

I've seen others say he won't be back until midseason but I'm not sure that is correct (at least for a tear). Guys can come back from an ACL in 9-10 months (granted not 100% back often times). Saquon had his surgery on October 30th last year and was back to full contact by September 1st

Bud Dupree tore his ACL on 12/3 and was ready for week 1 IIRC.

I had an ACL rupture 10+ years ago. They way it was described to me was the ACL was completely blown out, not a tear...basically gone.

I had a cadaver ACL inserted. I may have it wrong, but that's what I know. I'm an old guy, not a athelete anymore, but rehabbed for 9 months. I Was about 90% there. Never really got back to 100%, but again...old guy, over 10 years ago.
What SS is covering Kupp  
Giants73 : 10/27/2021 8:58 am : link
Does a decent job in coverage for the most part. Brings energy and rarely misses tackles. If anything this will get him back on the cheap, but who knows what he will be next year. Collins still looks slow after returning from his injury, but he isn’t as good as an athlete.
peppers is good for the team  
Platos : 10/27/2021 9:21 am : link
this might be a discount for us.
Let him go  
Harvest Blend : 10/27/2021 9:37 am : link
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If anything it should make for an easier decision in an upcoming offseason full of difficult ones.
He's a good sub package LBer type  
Sneakers O'toole : 10/27/2021 11:31 am : link
But he's probably going to be e cost prohibitive for that type of role. I'd like to find a way to keep him, assuming he recovers well, but don't think it's in the cards.
Really sad for Peppers  
JB_in_DC : 10/27/2021 12:01 pm : link
always love his energy, and wish they would have used him more as a blitzer.

One thing I thought though is that this sucks for this season, but also for the future because it limits the contract he will get, and thus our potential comp pick. I realize this is maybe a morbid thought given the injury - hope Peppers heals up good.
I'd love him back on a one year deal  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/27/2021 5:01 pm : link
but with the dollars committed to Ryan and with Mckinney and Love in the fold, I don't see it.
Tough spot for Peppers  
JonC : 10/27/2021 5:08 pm : link
He's only 26, but how much of '22 will he miss. As Mook said, it's often a poor gamble to hand a player with his cv a contract and expect him to change stripes very much. He's a good box strong safety, but gets fooled often and can't locate the ball quick enough, and is not a good cover safety.

I'd run with McKinney in his place, draft another S, Ryan is back at least another season. They should be able to find another SS who can produce similar results on the field and not cost $10M+ per. I'd consider bringing him back on a prove it deal, but my expectations would be to look for an upgrade at the same time.

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