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Multiple teams interested in our Pro Bowler Evan Engram

Pete from Woodstock : 10/27/2021 10:16 am
Reports Jeremy Fowler of ESPN
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This is one of those articles  
Giants73 : 10/27/2021 10:50 am : link
With nothing to back that there is any interest in any team trading for Engram. Just one DB citing another DB’s opinion. Then next year when Engram is gone, these same DBs will come back and bitch that the giants should have taking the offers that were there for Engram. Just a bunch of horsesh!t until they put legitimate offers in the article. This could be them asking a guy would you take engram for a lunchbox.
RE: I  
Dr. D : 10/27/2021 10:51 am : link
In comment 15431273 AcidTest said:
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don't see the Giants trading Engram until after the Chiefs game at the earliest, and even then, I'd be surprised if they traded him for a fifth round pick. Engram is apparently liked a lot more by the FO than BBI. I would trade him but wouldn't be surprised if they resign him next year, which I'm sure will make everyone here extremely happy.

There's no F*ing way we should re-sign him.
I Saw an Article That Suggests  
Aloha Alan : 10/27/2021 10:57 am : link
that the Las Vegas Raiders trade for him. Says they should offer a third round pick. Do it!!!

Pack his bags...................
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Nah we're gonna make a run after our injured players return.  
bceagle05 : 10/27/2021 10:58 am : link
Just ask John Mara.
Vegas is loaded with receivers and a pro bowl TE in Waller  
gtt350 : 10/27/2021 11:08 am : link
I don't see a trade
RE: I'd trade him to Buffalo  
Jesse B : 10/27/2021 11:08 am : link
In comment 15431234 FranknWeezer said:
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for (another Ole Miss Rebel) TE Dawson Knox and a 6th rounder.


Knox might be as good, probably better, than Engram and already has chemistry with Allen. Why would Buffalo make that trade?
RE: _________  
Danny Kanell : 10/27/2021 11:09 am : link
In comment 15431247 I am Ninja said:
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end this chapter.


Plus a million.
Evan Engram and a day 3 pick for Chandler Jones, any chance in hell?  
90.Cal : 10/27/2021 11:13 am : link
Gettleman might try anything to save his job at this point. Any OL available via trade?
It is amazing how little impact Engram has in both the gameplan  
chick310 : 10/27/2021 11:17 am : link
and the real game. The entire starting receiving corp injured and he still can't find his way to being value-added on the field. Just ridiculous.

If can do somewhat better than a 7th round pick with negotiations, then not trading him would be idiotic. Would actually like to get another player instead if that is an option from any of the interested teams. A young RB, LB or G/OC buried somewhere on a depth would be a nice get.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/27/2021 11:20 am : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Evan Engram was noticeably absent from Giants' stretch lines. With trade deadline looming next week, his status will be worth monitoring, and with plenty of speculation.

No official word yet as to why Engram is not out on the field.
This would be addition by subtraction  
Rudy5757 : 10/27/2021 11:27 am : link
Maybe I missed it but I dont think there has been a game where I thought EE won it for us but I can certainly see some games where he pretty much lost it for us. He's just not a good football player, talent is there it just doesnt happen on the field for some reason.

I hope we can get something for him, just tired of thinking he is going to have a good season to be disappointed. the Giants have never been able to get a receiving only TE to perform.
RE: This would be addition by subtraction  
Dr. D : 10/27/2021 11:33 am : link
In comment 15431328 Rudy5757 said:
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the Giants have never been able to get a receiving only TE to perform.


They seriously should stop trying.
Well, what are we waiting for?  
Daniel in MI : 10/27/2021 11:33 am : link
He's a great locker room guy  
noro9 : 10/27/2021 11:43 am : link
But the games are played on the field
RE: Trade him and  
Carson53 : 10/27/2021 11:45 am : link
In comment 15431231 section125 said:
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get some picks. I like him, but he is poison here.
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I am not sure they would get multiple picks, but I have been
saying for two years now, move on from Engram.
Now is the time, no reason to bring him back next year.
Maybe he figures it out some place else, don't hold your breath on that...
Sunday was one of Engrams better games  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/27/2021 11:47 am : link
He had a nice block and caught some short passes with no turnovers. But anyone could still see he ran terrible routes(into defenders and out of bounds). Maybe some of this falls on coaching, but he just doesn't have football instincts on the field. A 4th would be fair value.
RE: RE: I'd trade him to Buffalo  
Carson53 : 10/27/2021 11:49 am : link
In comment 15431304 Jesse B said:
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In comment 15431234 FranknWeezer said:


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for (another Ole Miss Rebel) TE Dawson Knox and a 6th rounder.



Knox might be as good, probably better, than Engram and already has chemistry with Allen. Why would Buffalo make that trade?
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They wouldn't in my view.
A coach killer who can't stay healthy  
japanhead : 10/27/2021 11:50 am : link
and has a marginal impact when on the field, often a negative. No idea why he wasn't traded years ago. The TE position has been declining since Boss hung em up, and when NYG finally spends a high pick on TE they get Evan Engram. I honestly preferred Larry Donnell.
RE: Sunday was one of Engrams better games  
Beer Man : 10/27/2021 11:52 am : link
In comment 15431358 Thunderstruck27 said:
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He had a nice block and caught some short passes with no turnovers. But anyone could still see he ran terrible routes(into defenders and out of bounds). Maybe some of this falls on coaching, but he just doesn't have football instincts on the field. A 4th would be fair value.
A 4th would be great for the Giants, but not many teams are going to give that for a 1/2 season rental.
When was the last time Giants drafted  
M.S. : 10/27/2021 11:55 am : link

a 2-way TE difference-maker?

Jeremy Shockey in 2002?
RE: I'd trade him to Buffalo  
Justlurking : 10/27/2021 11:56 am : link
In comment 15431234 FranknWeezer said:
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for (another Ole Miss Rebel) TE Dawson Knox and a 6th rounder.


LOL i hope you’re trolling. Knox is 10000000 times better than Engram. Buffalo would laugh at the suggestion.
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Beer Man : 10/27/2021 12:01 pm : link
In comment 15431321 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Evan Engram was noticeably absent from Giants' stretch lines. With trade deadline looming next week, his status will be worth monitoring, and with plenty of speculation.

No official word yet as to why Engram is not out on the field.
Didn't Engram get dinged up a little in the Carolina game?
RE: Well, what are we waiting for?  
djm : 10/27/2021 12:03 pm : link
In comment 15431341 Daniel in MI said:
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lol!
Hopefully...  
bw in dc : 10/27/2021 12:05 pm : link
Engram is one of many to get traded November 2nd.

Engram is clearly a talented player, but he could definitely use a reset somewhere else.

trading him for less than his compensatory value is a mistake  
markky : 10/27/2021 12:10 pm : link
since it would be one less "lost FA" in the formula calculating our potential compensation. if trading him is for a pick equal to the projected compensation pick then it's best to keep him.
EE's not going to be here next year,  
Section331 : 10/27/2021 12:12 pm : link
so they should get what they can for him. A 5th at this point of the season would be fine, anything more, fantastic.
RE: trading him for less than his compensatory value is a mistake  
Section331 : 10/27/2021 12:13 pm : link
In comment 15431399 markky said:
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since it would be one less "lost FA" in the formula calculating our potential compensation. if trading him is for a pick equal to the projected compensation pick then it's best to keep him.


It also depends on who else is going, and what their compensatory value is. Peppers? Hernandez? There are a limited amount of picks you can get, even if you sign no FA's.
RE: trading him for less than his compensatory value is a mistake  
Beer Man : 10/27/2021 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15431399 markky said:
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since it would be one less "lost FA" in the formula calculating our potential compensation. if trading him is for a pick equal to the projected compensation pick then it's best to keep him.
But that assumes the Giants don't sign any FAs.
eh  
Banks : 10/27/2021 12:15 pm : link
at this point we are selling low. Honestly, he hasn't been the god awful turnover machine this year (i think he caused 1) and had a couple of nice grabs. The problem this year is he is doesn't seem to be making much of an impact. I don't think I care if we trade or him not. If it's a 3rd (which we aren't getting), I'd be happy, but meh to anything beyond that
I'd like a 4th Round Pick for him, but  
NBGblue : 10/27/2021 12:19 pm : link
I could live with a 5th round pick in the top half of the round. A trade to the Colts, Seahawks, 49ers or LV might work. I could see their seasons going south.

Don't want to give EE away for "a pretzel and a bag of popcorn", but he's just not working out here.
His  
AcidTest : 10/27/2021 12:34 pm : link
trade value is lessened by the fact that he's in the last year of his contract. So any team trading for him could potentially have him for less than a full season, especially since he would need time to develop chemistry with his new QB and learn their offensive system. I assume only a real playoff contender would therefore even consider trading for him, unless a team was at least reasonably sure they could resign him after this season.
RE: Not buying this  
Gman11 : 10/27/2021 12:38 pm : link
In comment 15431235 Tuckrule said:
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The best you can hope for is a 5th and that seems far fetched


I would take a fifth of scotch for him. Uh huh.
At this point  
JonC : 10/27/2021 12:42 pm : link
the repeated mental errors, tipped passes, and fumbles are more frequent than his positive plays. He seems to lack a feel for the game, loses focus, and then he starts to press and the hands and the brain all start to lock up.
RE: RE: Not buying this  
Blue21 : 10/27/2021 12:47 pm : link
In comment 15431448 Gman11 said:
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In comment 15431235 Tuckrule said:


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The best you can hope for is a 5th and that seems far fetched



I would take a fifth of scotch for him. Uh huh.



Me too and I don't drink scotch.
Sources say  
Giants73 : 10/27/2021 1:20 pm : link
Giants are mulling offer for Brady and Jenson for 7th rounder
RE: RE: I'd trade him to Buffalo  
Bill in UT : 10/27/2021 1:25 pm : link
In comment 15431304 Jesse B said:
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In comment 15431234 FranknWeezer said:


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for (another Ole Miss Rebel) TE Dawson Knox and a 6th rounder.


Why would Buffalo make that trade?


Because Engram is a matchup nightmare, or haven't you heard?
Other than the TV commentators, and possibly  
Bill in UT : 10/27/2021 1:33 pm : link
Judge, if you can believe what he says publicly, does anyone really think that Engram is a player?
I still believe in you Engram  
rasbutant : 10/27/2021 1:34 pm : link
But I understand not wanting to play for this fanbase.

Good luck with the new club, you deserve a fresh start, go get some legit pro bowl appearances.
Has there ever before been a Pro Bowler who an entire fanbase…  
Crispino : 10/27/2021 1:41 pm : link
would be so happy to see leave as Engram?
RE: Hopefully...  
Route 9 : 10/27/2021 3:47 pm : link
In comment 15431394 bw in dc said:
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Engram is one of many to get traded November 2nd.

Engram is clearly a talented player, but he could definitely use a reset somewhere else.


What are his talents exactly?

He's been here for 4 years and .... I got nothing. OK. He had that one long TD vs Tampa Bay.
Hate to tell you guys this  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/27/2021 3:55 pm : link
but they are not trading Engram. They are still going to make a run at this season.
......  
Route 9 : 10/27/2021 4:21 pm : link
Buffalo is doing just fine without Engram. They don't need him to cost them any wins in crucial games.
I would trade him for  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/27/2021 4:46 pm : link
A case of beer.
BBI will be amazing when Engram catches the TD  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/27/2021 4:50 pm : link
that gets the Giants into the wildcard game this year. And everyone on this thread will be like "I told you he just needed the right play call!"
RE: His  
Pepe LePugh : 10/27/2021 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15431439 AcidTest said:
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trade value is lessened by the fact that he's in the last year of his contract. So any team trading for him could potentially have him for less than a full season, especially since he would need time to develop chemistry with his new QB and learn their offensive system. I assume only a real playoff contender would therefore even consider trading for him, unless a team was at least reasonably sure they could resign him after this season.

Not necessarily. If team A trades a late pick for him, but EE signs with team B during FA period next year, team A could theoretically get a comp pick higher than the pick they traded.
Engram  
stretch234 : 10/27/2021 5:28 pm : link
His issues are almost always when he stops and turns around waiting for the ball. Yet out OC continues to use him in these 3 yard curl routes. He is at his best and hard to deal with when running across the field

this team still uses him as if he is an in-line TE - baffling

At this point since they are not going to resign him, trade him and move on.

Be interesting to see what a good OC can do with him. Reality is there are very few TE in this league who avg 4 receptions per game
RE: I would trade him for  
Route 9 : 10/27/2021 5:32 pm : link
In comment 15431840 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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A case of beer.


That must be one shitty type of beer. Probably from CJ's brewery, I'm going to guess?
So let's say they pull the trigger and trade Engram  
eclipz928 : 10/27/2021 8:21 pm : link
.... then who's left to play TE for the Giants?

I'm fine with the Giants doing what they gotta do to tank this season, but there isn't another start-able TE currently on this roster.
Find at this point we are selling low comical  
Giants73 : 10/27/2021 8:25 pm : link
We have said that every year, but he finds a way to be even lower the next year
Assuming salary isn't included in any trade...  
Milton : 10/28/2021 9:53 am : link
It would also create roughly $3M in additional cap room to roll into next year.

I think a lot will depend on what happens Monday night. A win and the Giants are more likely to see themselves as still in play for a playoff spot and less likely to trade Engram or anyone. A loss and we could see them as active sellers in the trade market.
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