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While I won’t doubt the technical accuracy of the notion that Watson has only waived his no-trade clause for the Dolphins, it’s still possible that he’ll waive it for the Panthers, if the deal with the Dolphins doesn’t fully materialize. Moreover, the Panthers are indeed pursuing Watson. They want him to waive the no-trade clause for Carolina. They want to acquire his services from the Texans. But, for reasons that likely will become apparent if/when a deal is done, they are second in line behind the Dolphins. |
On another note, I'm kind of surprised the Eagles aren't sniffing around this steaming pile of dog crap (the whole situation, not the player). They could use a QB, they've rescued the 'untouchable' in the past and they have the capital to be in play.
Just don't let it be the Eagles!
He threw for 4800 yards, 33 td and only 7 picks and another 450 yards and 3 td rushing- on a team that went 4-12. He is definitely in that group you listed.
I don't think it is nearly the risk you guys think.
Who is pushing all of the Watson rumors - Watson's team or the Texans? It seems like all possible suitors are happy to wait out the legal situation even if it increases the cost because of how toxic it is.
There certainly is a lot of risk, but you lose me on not sure how great he'll be based on his last year in HOU. He had nothing short of an MVP-quality year.
My only question is, if you don't have assurances from the NFL that they won't suspend him now (meaning prior to a conclusion to his legal issues) then why do the trade now? He would essentially go from not playing for the Texans to not being able to play for (Phins or Panthers)..
On another note, I'm kind of surprised the Eagles aren't sniffing around this steaming pile of dog crap (the whole situation, not the player). They could use a QB, they've rescued the 'untouchable' in the past and they have the capital to be in play.
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On another note, I'm kind of surprised the Eagles aren't sniffing around this steaming pile of dog crap (the whole situation, not the player). They could use a QB, they've rescued the 'untouchable' in the past and they have the capital to be in play.
It has been reported (no idea if true or not) that the Eagles were doing tons of research and contacted Houston, but Watson would not waive his no-trade clause for them.
You don't cheer for your QB anyway.
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for a scumbag
You don't cheer for your QB anyway.
Haha
No cares about the civil suits. These will get settled at some point, possibly several years down the road.
As for the criminal complaints, what are we talking about? "He paid me to rub his inner thigh and then he ejaculated and I was humiliated." I don't know, what do you charge him with under those circumstances? He's a rich defendant who will make a stand up fight of it unless he gets a favorable deal, so where are you going with that if you are a prosecutor?
That only leaves the woke social media warriors, and Goodell who does nothing but point where the wind blows, doesn't seem to be acting very concerned.
No cares about the civil suits. These will get settled at some point, possibly several years down the road.
As for the criminal complaints, what are we talking about? "He paid me to rub his inner thigh and then he ejaculated and I was humiliated." I don't know, what do you charge him with under those circumstances? He's a rich defendant who will make a stand up fight of it unless he gets a favorable deal, so where are you going with that if you are a prosecutor?
That only leaves the woke social media warriors, and Goodell who does nothing but point where the wind blows, doesn't seem to be acting very concerned.
It's not the right time, though, because Houston is not offering a discount. They still want two or three #1s.
Tom Brady won MVP in 2017 with almost identical stats, but 500 fewer yards and one less TD, so yes, Watson's 2020 was MVP-quality.
And his value never being lower is a bit misleading because the ask is still apparently sky high. So what's higher than sky high? If he winds up being traded for a 1st and change than sure, I guess his price got lowered, but its been three 1sts this whole time (apparently) and then some.
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the guys I listed all had better seasons last year so i think my assessment was fair. He's around the top 5, probably just outside of it as long as Brady and Rodgers are still playing at the level they are. Add in the risk and its just not enough upside.
Tom Brady won MVP in 2017 with almost identical stats, but 500 fewer yards and one less TD, so yes, Watson's 2020 was MVP-quality.
I still don't agree, just check the splits.
Watson in 2020 had 20 of his 33 TD's in the 2nd half, 13 in the 4th quarter. Much more volume than Jalen Hurts but effectively the same premise - he got a lot of crappy late game TD's when the game was over.
Brady 2017 had 21 1st half TD's compared to Watson's 13 last season.
Context is everything. Watson got a fuckton of garbage time production last year.
No cares about the civil suits. These will get settled at some point, possibly several years down the road.
As for the criminal complaints, what are we talking about? "He paid me to rub his inner thigh and then he ejaculated and I was humiliated." I don't know, what do you charge him with under those circumstances? He's a rich defendant who will make a stand up fight of it unless he gets a favorable deal, so where are you going with that if you are a prosecutor?
That only leaves the woke social media warriors, and Goodell who does nothing but point where the wind blows, doesn't seem to be acting very concerned.
The NFL very much cares about the civil suits, and Houston police are investigating 10 complaints from women about sexual assault. He will have good lawyers, but if found guilty he's going to serve time. Massive risk, not to mention the PR hit you are going to take with a convicted sexual predator as your QB.
I still don't agree, just check the splits.
Watson in 2020 had 20 of his 33 TD's in the 2nd half, 13 in the 4th quarter. Much more volume than Jalen Hurts but effectively the same premise - he got a lot of crappy late game TD's when the game was over.
Brady 2017 had 21 1st half TD's compared to Watson's 13 last season.
Context is everything. Watson got a fuckton of garbage time production last year.
Despite their record, HOU pt diff was only -5, they weren't blown out of a lot of games. Only 3 games were more than one score, and Watson had 2 TD's in those games (1 was early to make the score 10-7). So that means he threw one garbage TD all year. And remember, Watson did this AFTER trading Hopkins.
Is there a double standard here?
35-13 with a minute and a half left in the game against GB - TD to Fuller.
I haven't checked very game but there's simply no way its just 1. In any case, my point remains, there's atleast 5 QB's that are better than him right now that don't have legal trouble. Sticking by that statement.
Is there a double standard here?
There was visual proof of what Bauer did + text messages. Its like seeing Ray Rice uppercut his wife vs. not seeing AP beat his kid. Obviously completely different scenarios but there's something tangible for the public to see with Bauer, there isn't with Watson.
I also think Bauer crossed a line in a big way.
Are there guys that don’t like getting their dicks touched by masseuses? Serious question.
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and to be honest, the reward just isn't high enough. This ordeal is going to hang over him for a while still so you are looking at maybe 2022 to start getting a return on investment. Based on his last year in Houston, I question how great he can really be anyway. I don't consider him on the level of Rodgers/Brady/Mahomes/Murray so where he goes really matters.
What's the "massive" risk? It's a civil suit, and the plaintiffs have no interest in seeing his source of income and wealth dry up. And no doubt interested teams have already been in contact with Roger "Finger in the wind" Goodell concerning a possible suspension and got the answer they wanted.
He threw for 4800 yards, 33 td and only 7 picks and another 450 yards and 3 td rushing- on a team that went 4-12. He is definitely in that group you listed.
I don't think it is nearly the risk you guys think.
It goes to show you that stats are for losers. If he had 33 td's and only 7 ints how important were those td's he got?
Another example are Minchew's stats with JAX. They are quite impressive with a team which went 1-15. How about Kapernick in his last year with SF.