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We need an identity

adamg : 10/27/2021 3:49 pm
And that identity should be defense.

Bring back the big blue of old please. Pass fucking rushers.

That's it.
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PakistanPete : 10/27/2021 4:05 pm : link
And naked cheerleaders.

We never had them, but it would do wonders for boomer morale!
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TLong : 10/27/2021 4:28 pm : link
In comment 15431777 PakistanPete said:
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And naked cheerleaders.

We never had them, but it would do wonders for boomer morale!


Not entirely naked. Leave a little enticement out there.
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Bill in UT : 10/27/2021 4:49 pm : link
In comment 15431777 PakistanPete said:
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And naked cheerleaders.

We never had them, but it would do wonders for boomer morale!


I hope you're not talking about upping the morale of naked cheerleaders who are boomers Echh
I’d like  
Joe Beckwith : 10/27/2021 5:00 pm : link
solid tacklers and punishing hitters who hold other teams to minimal gains but mostly losses on plays.
Also an OL that general pops holes and also gives the QB a solid 2.75-3.25 seconds to throw, but I’ll take a real OC that can work a scheme with whatever talent given.
i want at least player on D that will knock the other team's  
markky : 10/27/2021 5:55 pm : link
skill position players, including the QB, into next week.
Linebackers...  
BamaBlue : 10/27/2021 6:02 pm : link
bring back linebacker excellence. New York used to be Linebacker Town.
This is their identity....  
Jimmy Googs : 10/27/2021 6:13 pm : link


The greatness of the Giant defense began in the early 50’s with an  
plato : 10/27/2021 7:07 pm : link
article in Sports illustrated with the cover on “Sarah, Wanda, and Mike. Three linebackers and a rough tough front 4, and a solid secondary with a HOF safety.

Of course pass rushing was threatening but really added to that image with Lawrence Taylor the greatest Giant player, if not the greatest NFL player of all time, publicized for his lethal attacks on qb’s but forgotten is his greatness against the run.

So yes we need a great ‘d’, it is a Giant tradition, but not just “pass rushers”
We need an identity  
BobOnLI : 10/27/2021 7:47 pm : link
To board an airplane. "Identity" is among the worst cliches in football. Only "momentum" is worse. "Tempo" is close.
RE: We need an identity  
Angel Eyes : 10/27/2021 7:48 pm : link
In comment 15431999 BobOnLI said:
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To board an airplane. "Identity" is among the worst cliches in football. Only "momentum" is worse. "Tempo" is close.

What would you use instead?
Skilled players  
BobOnLI : 10/27/2021 7:54 pm : link
And good coaching.
Should be Barkley  
Rolyrock : 10/27/2021 9:30 pm : link
But we don't have an O line.
We need better players, and we need them to stay healthy.  
Big Blue Blogger : 10/28/2021 7:23 am : link
As for building an identity around defense and the front seven, there's already a team in the NFC East that has been trying to do that, and they are just as bad as the Giants.
Our quarterback has thrown 5 touchdown passes in 7 games.  
Gruber : 10/28/2021 8:54 am : link
If he'd thrown 10, which would still be behind the league's better passers, we'd probably be 5-2 right now, and not 2-5, regardless of the defense.
Sure, we need to improve defensively, but we need to improve far more on the offense.
Sorry but D is not the way to win in the modern NFL  
cosmicj : 10/28/2021 8:58 am : link
For reasons such as free agency, the cap and rules applying to the secondary.
Our identity is injured every week.  
Jalapeno : 10/28/2021 9:05 am : link
If our offense was healthy it would be interesting to see their identity.
@ 5:20  
Debaser : 10/28/2021 10:44 am : link
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We Don't really have an Identity  
Batenhorst7 : 10/29/2021 4:46 am : link
we have some players who have made it to the highlight reels

Daniel Jones- He is better than half the QBs now starting and has tremendous upside when he has a solid Oline and his weapons back

Toney. As exciting a player as we have ever had. Enormous talent

Barkley. A flawed RB who has no presence between the tackles- but terrific in the open field...we have to figure out how to use him. He has no stomach for the hard knocks between the tackles. He might be best used as 3rd down specialist if he can learn to block better. He kind of reminds me of Reggie Bush

In short observing the Giants as an opponent I would say we are a dangerous opponent, which often self destructs but could beat any other team on a given day.

Personally, I hope we have reached an inflection point and can now get on a run or mini run at the least. Judge needs to relieve Garrett of his play calling duties though. His conservative play calling is killing us.

Plastering the Chiefs Monday Night would go a long way to establishing an identity
Go Giants!!

Giants 34 Chiefs 7
need to be great at something  
djm : 10/29/2021 3:57 pm : link
the Titans have been a 9-10-11 win team and a postseason threat because they lead the league in rushing or close to it. QB is ok. Defense was good, now is shite or average, but they still win games because they can lean on greatness, the running game.

Ravens--same
Niners had the D and OL--now taking on water
Seattle had Wilson now they suck because GEno Smith
Packers - Rodgers and the passing game
Dallas has the offense

NYG has?

We should have moved heaven and earth to turn this D from ok or even pretty good into an elite unit OR turned something on offense from bad or pretty good to elite. They spread the wealth like they always do, and what we have is pretty or pretty bad across the board. And that won't do.
this offseason  
djm : 10/29/2021 3:59 pm : link
i'd focus every resource we have on the unit that is closest to being elite. BE it the passing game, running game, D, whatever....either save the whales or draft 2 linebackers/edges...

I give up
I'm guessing we is the Giants?  
arniefez : 10/29/2021 4:23 pm : link
I think the Giants have one of the most consistent identities of any team in the NFL. I think you mean the Giants need a new one.
RE: need to be great at something  
Angel Eyes : 10/29/2021 5:45 pm : link
In comment 15433949 djm said:
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the Titans have been a 9-10-11 win team and a postseason threat because they lead the league in rushing or close to it. QB is ok. Defense was good, now is shite or average, but they still win games because they can lean on greatness, the running game.

Ravens--same
Niners had the D and OL--now taking on water
Seattle had Wilson now they suck because GEno Smith
Packers - Rodgers and the passing game
Dallas has the offense

NYG has?

We should have moved heaven and earth to turn this D from ok or even pretty good into an elite unit OR turned something on offense from bad or pretty good to elite. They spread the wealth like they always do, and what we have is pretty or pretty bad across the board. And that won't do.

Ah well, I made plans building around the D and OL like the 49ers.
What identity should we have ?  
Ron from Ninerland : 10/29/2021 6:01 pm : link
How about "Winner of championships"

Too ambitious ? How about "Perennial playoff contender"

Still too much to ask ? I'll settle for "Winner of more games than losses "

What identity to we have ? "Obtainer of top 10 draft picks"
have to admit  
bigbluehoya : 10/29/2021 6:13 pm : link
the thread title made me think of Ron White...

"They call me....Tater Salad"

sorry to miller
RE: have to admit  
adamg : 10/29/2021 8:21 pm : link
In comment 15434036 bigbluehoya said:
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the thread title made me think of Ron White...

"They call me....Tater Salad"

sorry to miller


No worries. Football threads are shit nowadays anyway.
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