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NFT: Pitchfork's top 200 albums of the last 25 years

DanMetroMan : 10/28/2021 12:43 pm
I know these lists always prompt a decent amount of discussion
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RE: RE: Pitchfork def has a skewed perception  
santacruzom : 10/28/2021 8:16 pm : link
In comment 15432781 Mellowmood92 said:
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Man they love Sufjan.. #12. I personally love the album, but how can you rank an album so high that the large majority of people never listened to or even know this guy exists as a musician?


The artist whose albums I'd vote to remove not only from the list but from the Earth is Joanna Newsom. Just can't stand that affectation of hers.
 
christian : 10/28/2021 10:21 pm : link
If you start that clock at 1994, you can easily pickup another 20 great albums.

I’ll argue to my grave 1994 is the best year of recorded music in history.

Weezer - Blue Album
Morrissey - Vauxhall and I
NIN - Downward Spiral
Nas- Illmatic
BIG - Ready to Die
Jeff Buckley - Grace
Beastie Boys - Ill Communication
Portishead - Dummy
Hole - Live Through This
REM - Monster
Massive Attack - Protection
Everything But the Girl - Amplified Hearts
24 Hour Revenge Therapy Jawbreaker
Blur - Parklife
Built to Spill - There’s Nothing Wrong With Love
Tom Petty - Wildflowers
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Nirvana- Unplugged
Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
Lyle Lovett - I Love Everybody
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Producer : 10/28/2021 10:33 pm : link
In comment 15433146 christian said:
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If you start that clock at 1994, you can easily pickup another 20 great albums.

I’ll argue to my grave 1994 is the best year of recorded music in history.

Weezer - Blue Album
Morrissey - Vauxhall and I
NIN - Downward Spiral
Nas- Illmatic
BIG - Ready to Die
Jeff Buckley - Grace
Beastie Boys - Ill Communication
Portishead - Dummy
Hole - Live Through This
REM - Monster
Massive Attack - Protection
Everything But the Girl - Amplified Hearts
24 Hour Revenge Therapy Jawbreaker
Blur - Parklife
Built to Spill - There’s Nothing Wrong With Love
Tom Petty - Wildflowers
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Nirvana- Unplugged
Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
Lyle Lovett - I Love Everybody


1971 is so much better
christian...  
bw in dc : 10/28/2021 10:35 pm : link
I'll see your 1994, and raise you 1991...

Pearl Jam "Ten"
U2 "Achtung Baby"
Rem "Out of Time"
Nirvana "Never Mind"
Chilly Peppers "Blood Sugar Sex Magik"
Lenny Kravitz "Mama Said"
Metallica "Black Album"
Seal "Seal"
Matthew Sweet "Girlfriend" (god, I loved this record...)
Sting "Soul Cages"
Marc Cohn "Marc Cohn"

BTW, I have all of these... ;)
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St. Jimmy : 10/28/2021 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15433146 christian said:
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If you start that clock at 1994, you can easily pickup another 20 great albums.

I’ll argue to my grave 1994 is the best year of recorded music in history.

Weezer - Blue Album
Morrissey - Vauxhall and I
NIN - Downward Spiral
Nas- Illmatic
BIG - Ready to Die
Jeff Buckley - Grace
Beastie Boys - Ill Communication
Portishead - Dummy
Hole - Live Through This
REM - Monster
Massive Attack - Protection
Everything But the Girl - Amplified Hearts
24 Hour Revenge Therapy Jawbreaker
Blur - Parklife
Built to Spill - There’s Nothing Wrong With Love
Tom Petty - Wildflowers
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Nirvana- Unplugged
Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
Lyle Lovett - I Love Everybody
Offspring- Smash and Green Day - Dookie too. That led to everyone finding NOFX - Punk in Drublic.
RE: christian...  
Producer : 10/28/2021 10:40 pm : link
In comment 15433191 bw in dc said:
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I'll see your 1994, and raise you 1991...

Pearl Jam "Ten"
U2 "Achtung Baby"
Rem "Out of Time"
Nirvana "Never Mind"
Chilly Peppers "Blood Sugar Sex Magik"
Lenny Kravitz "Mama Said"
Metallica "Black Album"
Seal "Seal"
Matthew Sweet "Girlfriend" (god, I loved this record...)
Sting "Soul Cages"
Marc Cohn "Marc Cohn"

BTW, I have all of these... ;)


I agree 91 is better than 94, and you left out:

Loveless, My Bloody vanetine
Badmotorfinger, Soundgarden
Trompe Le Monde, The Pixies
Out of Time, REM
Screamadelica, Primal Scream
Use Your Illusion 1&2, GNR
Spiderland, Slint
Gish, The Smashing Pumpkins
The Low End Theory, Tribe Called Quest
Bandwagonesque, Teenage Fanclub
Green Mind, Dinosaur Jr

But 71 is better than both years.
I have Out of Time...  
bw in dc : 10/28/2021 10:42 pm : link
Big REM fan...wouldn't leave that out... ;)
RE: I have Out of Time...  
Producer : 10/28/2021 10:44 pm : link
In comment 15433208 bw in dc said:
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Big REM fan...wouldn't leave that out... ;)


Among the many times I saw them was Radio City for Fables of the Reconstruction, and an Olympic bicycle venue, the Velodrome, in Montreal for Document.
 
christian : 10/28/2021 11:01 pm : link
There are a number of albums I enjoy from ‘71 — but probably more that I respect than like.

I wasn’t alive in 1971, so the time and place, also don’t have any relevance to me.
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Producer : 10/28/2021 11:05 pm : link
In comment 15433234 christian said:
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There are a number of albums I enjoy from ‘71 — but probably more that I respect than like.

I wasn’t alive in 1971, so the time and place, also don’t have any relevance to me.


I hearya.. I was alive but very young. I didn't appreciate those albums until 8 years later. But any year with Zep 4, Who's Next, and Sticky Fingers is incredible. Arguably the best albums by each of those bands. And I forgot to mention Floyd's Meddle came out that year.

I was going to a lot of concerts in that 91 to 94 period. I saw a lot of those acts and listened to a lot of that music.
Can't leave the Grateful Dead's Skull  
Lurts : 10/28/2021 11:25 pm : link
and Roses off the 71 list, arguably their best album.

And, no disrespect to Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street has been named the best R&R--no less the Stones--album by some critics.
RE: Can't leave the Grateful Dead's Skull  
Producer : 10/28/2021 11:30 pm : link
In comment 15433270 Lurts said:
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and Roses off the 71 list, arguably their best album.

And, no disrespect to Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street has been named the best R&R--no less the Stones--album by some critics.


Yes Skull and Roses is a big one too. I don't know about their best. But really good.

I said arguably about the best. I love Exile. Adore it. It might be my favorite. But any of those big four - Beggars, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile, could be reasonably called their best. Sticky Fingers is an amazing album. It rocks hard, a little trippy, all great songs, moody and fantastic guitar playing from Taylor.
RE: Am I reading this correctly?  
Bear vs Shark : 10/28/2021 11:38 pm : link
In comment 15432636 montanagiant said:
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Radiohead and Kendrick Lamar have combined five out of the top ten albums over the last 25 years with Radiohead having three of the top four?

Give me a fucking break, did they only count suburban hipsters' votes?
Uh, this is pitchfork, so the answer to your question is unironically yes
 
christian : 10/28/2021 11:43 pm : link
I think the top end of a lot years is better — I think the breadth of 1994 is what tops it off for me.

Two of my favorite records of all time are Grace and Vauxhall and I, so that certainly factors for me.

I can’t stand Zeppelin, and am not a huge fan of The Who. I know that’s sensibility offending. As I’ve gotten older I’ve grown to love the Stones, but I didn’t grow up on them.

Of the records that came out in ‘71 — my favorite are Hunky Dory, Every Picture Tells a Story, and LA Woman. Those are definitely records that I connect with and listen to end-to-end regularly.
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Producer : 10/28/2021 11:49 pm : link
In comment 15433315 christian said:
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I think the top end of a lot years is better — I think the breadth of 1994 is what tops it off for me.

Two of my favorite records of all time are Grace and Vauxhall and I, so that certainly factors for me.

I can’t stand Zeppelin, and am not a huge fan of The Who. I know that’s sensibility offending. As I’ve gotten older I’ve grown to love the Stones, but I didn’t grow up on them.

Of the records that came out in ‘71 — my favorite are Hunky Dory, Every Picture Tells a Story, and LA Woman. Those are definitely records that I connect with and listen to end-to-end regularly.


I can't believe I left out those two albums. I love LA Woman and like Every Picture very much. What about Zeppelin do you dislike? Just curious. Why do they rub you the wrong way?
Probably the biggest difference between the Giants and those  
St. Jimmy : 10/28/2021 11:54 pm : link
teams was going for it on fourth down. Lots of big plays on fourth and 3 or 5 around midfield. Giants probably punt there.
RE: Probably the biggest difference between the Giants and those  
St. Jimmy : 10/28/2021 11:55 pm : link
In comment 15433334 St. Jimmy said:
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teams was going for it on fourth down. Lots of big plays on fourth and 3 or 5 around midfield. Giants probably punt there.
Opps. Wrong thread.
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christian : 10/29/2021 12:11 am : link
In comment 15433327 Producer said:
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I can't believe I left out those two albums. I love LA Woman and like Every Picture very much. What about Zeppelin do you dislike? Just curious. Why do they rub you the wrong way?


I’ve asked myself this countless times. I can’t stand Zeppelin era Plant, but absolutely love his solo work.

I don’t get it really, I understand and respect the influence they had on rock and metal to come, I love flamboyant front men, I really enjoy that era of music.
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Producer : 10/29/2021 12:22 am : link
In comment 15433346 christian said:
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In comment 15433327 Producer said:


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I can't believe I left out those two albums. I love LA Woman and like Every Picture very much. What about Zeppelin do you dislike? Just curious. Why do they rub you the wrong way?



I’ve asked myself this countless times. I can’t stand Zeppelin era Plant, but absolutely love his solo work.

I don’t get it really, I understand and respect the influence they had on rock and metal to come, I love flamboyant front men, I really enjoy that era of music.


I have friends who don't like him, and I think, like you, they mean that era. He is screeching and moaning. I think it's a bit much for a lot of people, and probably it's mainly 1 & 2 they are responding to. I have a friend who hates them but he loves Communication Breakdown and Immigrant Song, which are a bit more straightforward with no moaning interludes, short and sweet.

 
christian : 10/29/2021 12:50 am : link
I think that’s probably spot on. I think All My Love is damn near perfect song, and at least the album cut doesn’t go in any weird directions.
The is a readers choice list…  
trueblueinpw : 10/29/2021 4:53 am : link
This isn’t Pitchfork’s best albums of the past 25 years. The title of the article gives that away:

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The 200 Best Albums of the Last 25 Years, According to Pitchfork Readers


So, yeah, that’s why 4 Radiohead albums in the top 10. Which is still completely ridiculous. But Pitchfork is too far off the beaten path to have 4 albums by anyone other than Kendrick Lamar or Lil Wayne in the top ten. Even Sufjan Stevens would only have 3 albums in the Pitchfork writers top ten of the past 25 years. In fact, yeah, Pitchfork writers top ten would be some combination of those three and an organic bees wax reissue of Miseducation of Lauryn Hill.
RE: I consider myself to be a pretty big Radiohead fan  
GiantsLaw : 10/29/2021 8:27 am : link
In comment 15432976 santacruzom said:
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...Kid A may not belong at the top of any "best albums" list. Now In Rainbows... that's a Radiohead album.

My thoughts exactly, I've tried several times and Kid A just doesn't interest me at all. In Rainbows is gold baby
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