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2022 NFL Draft: Top 96

Sy'56 : 11/4/2021 8:13 am
Hi all-

Figured I would send out my top 96 for the 2022 NFL Draft because I know many have shifted their focus in that direction. With multiple college games multiple days per week, some may want to start watching legit prospects with their own eyes

A few things:

-I have not fully screened / scouted anyone yet. This time of year, I have only seen these guys 1 or 2 times. I usually get another 3-5 looks between now and April. I also have official measurements and times on about half of these guys and I have not received the medical checks from most. Simply put, these are very far from final and they are extremely fluid this time of year, especially for someone that does most of the scouting by myself. I don't cross check with anything or anyone until the winter months.

-Please remember, the "55th ranked player" is not very different than the "65th ranked player" or "45th" ranked player. And specific schemes warrant very different stacks when it comes to the specific players. Also, position value is a part of this.

-Lastly, especially this year, I am subjective with which players I believe will declare for the draft and which will not. If you see an underclassman missing, that could be the case. Any questions there, feel free to ask.

-Feel free to generate discussion / ask a few questions and I will get to them eventually today/tonight.

Thanks

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1: Derek Stingley - CB/LSU
2: Kavon Thibodeaux - DE/Oregon
3: Kyle Hamilton - S/Notre Dame
4: Aidan Hutchinson - DE/Michigan
5: Ahmad Gardner - CB/Cincinnati
6: Malik Willis - QB/Liberty
7: Drake London - WR/USC
8: Evan Neal - OT/Alabama
9: Ikem Ekwonu - OT/OG - NC State
10: Nicholas Petit-Frere - OT/Ohio State
11: George Karlaftis - DE/Purdue
12: Garrett Wilson: - WR/Ohio State
13: Sam Howell - QB/North Carolina
14: Chris Olave - WR/Ohio State
15: Sean Rhyan - OT/OG - UCLA
16: Jameson Williams - WR/Alabama
17: Kenny Pickett - QB/Pittsburgh
18: Charles Cross - OT/Mississippi State
19: Trey McBride - TE/Colorado State
20: Nakobe Dean - LB/Georgia
21: Daxton Hill - S/Michigan
22: Roger McCreary - CB/Auburn
23: Kingsley Enagbare - DE/South Carolina
24: Adam Anderson - OLB/Georgia
25: Treylon Burks - WR/Arkansas
26: Jahan Dotson - WR/Penn State
27: Trent McDuffie - CB/Washington
28: John Mechie III - WR/Alabama
29: Desmond Ridder - QB/Louisville
30: Matt Corral - QB/Mississippi
31: Tyler Linderbaum - OC/Iowa
32: Kenyon Green - OG/Texas A& M
33: Jordan Davis - DT/Georgia
34: Drake Jackson - OLB/USc
35: DeMarvin Leal - DT/Texass A& M
36: Abraham Lucas - OT/Washington State
37: Brandon Smith - LB/Penn State
38: David Bell - WR/Purdue
39: Isaiah Spiller - RB/Texas A& M
40: Devin Lloyd - LB/Utah
41:Josh Jobe - CB/Alabama
42: Kellen Diesch - OT/Arizona State
43: Breece Hall - RB/Iowa State
44: Kaii Elam - CB/Florida
45: Christian Harris - LB/Alabama
46: Kenneth Walker - RB/Michigan State
47: Jalen Tolbert - WR/South Alabama
48: Carson Strong - QB/Nevada
49: Trey Dean III - S/Florida
50: Darian Kinnard - OT/Kentucky
51: Jaleel Billingsley - TE/Alabama
52: Jordan Battle - S/Alabama
53: Quay Walker - LB/Georgia
54: Trevor Penning - OT/Northern Iowa
55: Jermaine Johnson - DE/Florida State
56: Zion Johnson - OG/Boston College
57: Devonte Wyatt - DT/Georgia
58: Phidarian Mathis - DT/Alabama
59: Will McDonald - OLB/Iowa State
60: Cam Taylor-Britt - CB-S/Nebraska
61: Alontae Taylor - CB/Tennessee
62: Jaquan Brisker - S/Penn State
63: Brian Robinson - RB/Alabama
64: Kyren Wlliams - RB/Notre Dame
65: Jeremy Ruckert - TE/Ohio State
66: Jalen Wydermeyer - TE/Texas A& M
67: Andrew Booth Jr - CB/Clemson
68: Damonbe Clark - LB/LSU
69: Nick Broeker - OT-OG/Ole Miss
70: Riley Moss - CB-S/Iowa
71: Zamir White - RB/Georgia
72: Wan'Dale Robinson - WR/Kentucky
73: Pierre Strong Jr - RB/South Dakota State
74: Joseph Ngata - WR/Clemson
75: Justyn Ross - WR/Clemson
76: Benhard Raimann - OT/Central Michigan
77: Nik Bonitto - OLB/Oklahoma
78: Perron Winfrey - DT/Oklahoma
79: Arnold Ebeketie - DE/Penn State
80: Cameron Thomas - DE/San Diego State
81: Lewis Cine - S/Georgia
82: Willie Beavers - LB/Cincinnati
83: Brenton Cox Jr - OLB/Florida
84: Myjai Sanders - DE/Cincinnati
85: Tariq Castro-Fields - CB/Penn State
86: Jack Sanborn - LB/Wisconsin
87: Coby Bryant - CB/Cincinnati
88: Alex Lindstron - OC/Boston College
89: Jamaree Salyer - OG-OT/Georgia
90: Cade Otton - TE/Washington
91: Zach Harrison - DE/Ohio State
92: Zachary Carter - DE/Florida
93: Kevin Austin - WR/Notre Dame
94: Jaxson Kirkland - OT-OG/Washington bdxg
95: Tiawan Mullen - CB/Indiana
96: Will Mallory - TE/Miami
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Who's talking about burning picks or throwing any away?  
christian : 11/4/2021 3:16 pm : link
In comment 15443007 Milton said:
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Wait'll you see what the salary cap is gonna be in the coming years, with the 17-game season, the extra playoff games, the new TV deals. Two years from now Leonard Williams is gonna be complaining that he's underpaid compared to a dozen other defensive tackles in the league.


Two years from now Leonard Williams will be on the cusp of being an UFA and can get a new contract.
RE: Who fits the Giants defense better if plugged in right now...  
Sy'56 : 11/4/2021 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15442646 90.Cal said:
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Hutchinson or Karlaftis?


Good question, and I don't know really.

NYG coaching staff talks about adapting their scheme to personal a la Belichick. But I don't think many have done a good job there and I think this staff leads more toward 3-4 personnel.

That in mind, this staff would likely lean toward Karlaftis. He is likely going to measure around 280-285. That is a nice frame for the CRASH end. A DE that plays some edge, some 5 tech type roles.
RE: Sy'56  
Sy'56 : 11/4/2021 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15442779 Milton said:
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I know it's woefully premature, but where do you see the cutoff points between superblue (after Hutchinson at 4?), blue (after Olave at 14?), and red chip (after McCreary at 22?) prospects? Thanks for the job you do!


Woefully good question. I'll answer but please know this is so fluid right now.

I see the cut off after the top 5.

Another cutoff after 11.

Another cutoff after 21
RE: Surprised to seeJalen Wydermeyer so low in the TE rankings Sy  
Sy'56 : 11/4/2021 3:30 pm : link
In comment 15442791 Rick in Dallas said:
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I think he is being held back this year by inconsistent QB play .
Do you think Corral ‘s game translates to theNFL? I worry about him being a Johnny Manzell.
I really like Spiller from A&M as the number 1RB


Ton of drops, poor body language, low effort blocker
RE: Pickett  
Sy'56 : 11/4/2021 3:34 pm : link
In comment 15443138 Thegratefulhead said:
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I am asking for what I should look for when watching him. What you like him to do in these last games to consider him a near top of the draft prospect?


Better deep ball accuracy. More pocket awareness / pressure evasion. He is smart and has the feel, but makes poor decisions with where to move within the pocket.

Hit guys on the move on crossing routes in the numbers.
RE: Sy'56: A Very Hypothetical Question  
Sy'56 : 11/4/2021 3:37 pm : link
In comment 15443264 M.S. said:
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The 2022 NFL Draft is tomorrow and Malik Willis is still #6 on your Big Board, which just happens to be exactly where the Giants are picking.

The Giants have asked YOU to make the call.

Would you send up a card with the Liberty QB's name on it? And, if not, who then?


If at the end of the year, I didn't think Jones Wass THE guy to get this team back to the postseason as a direct result of his play, I am looking for a new QB. If a prospect meets the grade after the process, yes I am going QB with the early 1st rounder. Building his support (OL) with the pick after assuming the grade meets that spot as well. Which in this class, it likely will. OT/OG/OC all on the table.
Someone asked about Stingley vs. Surtain  
Sy'56 : 11/4/2021 3:38 pm : link
I can't find it.

Stingley is twitchier and has more playmaking ability. Similar profile otherwise.

Also think Stingley could be a threat at PR...I never saw that with Surtain.
Ikem Ekwonu  
rasbutant : 11/4/2021 3:41 pm : link
Just watched my first video of him. Love the way he mauls guys. Big and strong.

I have no idea how you (scouts) assess these guys with the college game the way it is. I was 5 mins into the video before he took a real pass set. (Which wasn't that pretty even though it had no effect on the play.) But he looks good mauling people and play through the whistle.

Seems like you would have to delete out 90% of the film to get to the meat and potatoes of what you are looking to evaluate.

I want to see him against speed around the outside, the bull rush, stunt pick-ups,etc... What happens when the rusher has long arm and strikes him in the chest, does he just fall over like Solder??? I don't see him get challenged like that.
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RE: Ikem Ekwonu  
Sy'56 : 11/4/2021 3:43 pm : link
In comment 15443352 rasbutant said:
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Just watched my first video of him. Love the way he mauls guys. Big and strong.

I have no idea how you (scouts) assess these guys with the college game the way it is. I was 5 mins into the video before he took a real pass set. (Which wasn't that pretty even though it had no effect on the play.) But he looks good mauling people and play through the whistle.

Seems like you would have to delete out 90% of the film to get to the meat and potatoes of what you are looking to evaluate.

I want to see him against speed around the outside, the bull rush, stunt pick-ups,etc... What happens when the rusher has long arm and strikes him in the chest, does he just fall over like Solder??? I don't see him get challenged like that. Link - ( New Window )


You can watch 30 plays on a guy...and 4 of them telling you something. That's the biz
Thanks Sy for the draft preview and your responses  
Rick in Dallas : 11/4/2021 4:10 pm : link
Look forward to your detailed write ups in April before the draft. Much appreciated.
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ryanmkeane : 11/4/2021 6:59 pm : link
Stingley #1! loving the ER and OL in the top 15-20
Howell is too high IMO.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/4/2021 7:03 pm : link
I haven't been too impressed with him this fall, though he had his moments vs. ND.
RE: Howell is too high IMO.  
bw in dc : 11/4/2021 7:08 pm : link
In comment 15443531 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I haven't been too impressed with him this fall, though he had his moments vs. ND.


In Howell's defense, that offense had significant turnover from last year to this year. They had four guys drafted from that offense in 2021.

So dealing with those growing pains have manifested itself in Howell's struggles.
bw.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/4/2021 7:11 pm : link
Noted. I thought a lot of him-& the Heels in general-going into the season so perhaps my expectations were unrealistic. I would put Pickett & Corral ahead of him.
Adam Anderson has been accused of rape  
Rick in Dallas : 11/4/2021 7:29 pm : link
Incident occurred last Friday per police report. He has not been suspended yet. This could have an impact on his draft ranking
RE: Adam Anderson has been accused of rape  
Mike in NY : 11/4/2021 7:32 pm : link
In comment 15443541 Rick in Dallas said:
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Incident occurred last Friday per police report. He has not been suspended yet. This could have an impact on his draft ranking

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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/4/2021 7:39 pm : link
If that Anderson thing is true...he's got a lot more to be concerned about than his draft stock.
RE: RE: Thanks SY  
Brown_Hornet : 11/4/2021 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15443116 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 15442623 Tuckrule said:


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Do you see Hutchinson as a 3-4 end or edge? Many have him pegged as a defensive end in a 4-3 or 3-4. Thank you



He can play both. He dropped weight over the past 2 years, about 20 pounds, and maintained his power. I think any scheme can bring him in as a feature EDGE guy. I would love to see NYG return to more 4-3 looks (with occasional change ups) and have Hutch play the LDE spot. Can shift inside on pass rush packages.
Emphasized, "I would love to see NYG return to more 4-3 looks (with occasional change ups)"
Mallory  
BigBlueCane : 11/4/2021 8:13 pm : link
doesn't deserve to be in the 96 or even top 100. He doesn't like contact, can't catch a cold and is loathed by the fans. Most prefer the Transfer TE over him.
RE: bw.  
bw in dc : 11/4/2021 8:16 pm : link
In comment 15443536 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Noted. I thought a lot of him-& the Heels in general-going into the season so perhaps my expectations were unrealistic. I would put Pickett & Corral ahead of him.


I can buy that. Although it was interesting hearing Sy have the same issue I have with Corral - body type. As much as I like his plus arm and his toughness, MC's body is small and narrow.
RE: Mallory  
BigBlueShock : 11/4/2021 8:19 pm : link
In comment 15443564 BigBlueCane said:
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doesn't deserve to be in the 96 or even top 100. He doesn't like contact, can't catch a cold and is loathed by the fans. Most prefer the Transfer TE over him.

He’s got him at 96. Seems like a ridiculous splitting of hairs here
RE: Mallory  
Sy'56 : 11/4/2021 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15443564 BigBlueCane said:
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doesn't deserve to be in the 96 or even top 100. He doesn't like contact, can't catch a cold and is loathed by the fans. Most prefer the Transfer TE over him.


Height/weight/speed looks good. He can outrun defensive backs at 6'5/250 and hands looked good in the 2 games I watched. Agreed he looks soft, though. I will get deeper on him in the coming months.
Sy...  
bw in dc : 11/4/2021 9:59 pm : link
Granted it's early, but which OLs do you see as plug-n-play right away?
RE: RE: RE: 5 QBs in the top 30  
WillVAB : 11/4/2021 10:20 pm : link
In comment 15442830 Go Terps said:
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This IS a good year to go get a quarterback.



Do you see a Mahomes or Rodgers? Or is just anybody good enough?



You can't wait for a Mahomes or Rodgers. Those guys don't come around often.

You're not drafting a quarterback for the next ten years anymore. You're drafting a QB for the next 4-5 years, with the possibility that it's becomes 10 years or more.


You were touting Rattler a month ago until he got benched. Just stop.
RE: Looks in Top 11  
Biteymax22 : 11/5/2021 8:28 am : link
In comment 15442630 Biteymax22 said:
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3 DEs, 3 OL. Good... Good...

If Gettleman is still GM I assume we already have a card filled out with Adam Anderson's name on it.


Guess baring some miracle breakthrough of evidence that completely exonerates him we can scratch Anderson's name off the draft board...
Thanks Dave  
Anakim : 11/5/2021 8:41 am : link
I think Sauce Gardner and Kaiir Elam deserve some top-10 love. I like both over Andrew Boothe Jr.

Don’t agree with Stingley over Thibodeaux, especially since we haven’t seen Stingley yet and he had a bit of a down year last year.
JJ Enagbare is going to go in the top-15  
Anakim : 11/5/2021 8:43 am : link
He’s been the best EDGE guy in the SEC, IMO
Edge and OL  
Chip : 11/5/2021 9:45 am : link
only positions giants should be looking at in the 1st round.
RE: RE: RE: It's clear that this year isn't the year to go fishing for a QB  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/5/2021 10:01 am : link
In comment 15442625 Spider56 said:
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Keep DJ for another year. Maybe draft one in a later round but not early.

I don't think that is clear. It depends on the evaluation. Sy does a service here by offering his opinion. And in his opinion Willis is good enough to consider, at the very least.



Only because the dump DJ narrative is your mantra for everything.

Not entirely. You can find a HOF QB in a bad QB class.

The 2005 QB class was pretty weak. Go look at who it included.

I agree that Producer tends to be a one-trick pony when it comes to DJ, but I also think BBI tends to get hung up on the strength of a position in a particular draft class rather than the strength of a particular prospect or two.

Even if we were going to draft a QB in 2022, we wouldn't be cluster drafting QBs. The depth of the class isn't as relevant as the question of whether a single, significant QB upgrade exists within the 2022 class.

I don't know the answer to that question, but I do know that the strength of the QB class in general is a pretty weak argument since we wouldn't be drafting the entire QB class.
RE: RE: RE: RE: It's clear that this year isn't the year to go fishing for a QB  
Mike in NY : 11/5/2021 10:08 am : link
In comment 15443942 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Keep DJ for another year. Maybe draft one in a later round but not early.

I don't think that is clear. It depends on the evaluation. Sy does a service here by offering his opinion. And in his opinion Willis is good enough to consider, at the very least.



Only because the dump DJ narrative is your mantra for everything.


Not entirely. You can find a HOF QB in a bad QB class.

The 2005 QB class was pretty weak. Go look at who it included.

I agree that Producer tends to be a one-trick pony when it comes to DJ, but I also think BBI tends to get hung up on the strength of a position in a particular draft class rather than the strength of a particular prospect or two.

Even if we were going to draft a QB in 2022, we wouldn't be cluster drafting QBs. The depth of the class isn't as relevant as the question of whether a single, significant QB upgrade exists within the 2022 class.

I don't know the answer to that question, but I do know that the strength of the QB class in general is a pretty weak argument since we wouldn't be drafting the entire QB class.


I think strength of a class matters even if not cluster drafting. If you have a weak QB class are you bumping QB's more than you ordinarily would? For example, if you have a weak QB class and you ordinarily bump a QB two rows to account for positional value of a QB, are you unconsciously bumping one 3 rows in this draft? That is why for positions that relative value causes you to not go strictly by grade I like to look at the past draft or two and ask myself if Player X in 2022 Draft was in 2020 Draft or 2021 Draft where would he rank against those at that position and then rank him accordingly in 2022 Draft.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: It's clear that this year isn't the year to go fishing for a QB  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/5/2021 10:40 am : link
In comment 15443959 Mike in NY said:
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Keep DJ for another year. Maybe draft one in a later round but not early.

I don't think that is clear. It depends on the evaluation. Sy does a service here by offering his opinion. And in his opinion Willis is good enough to consider, at the very least.



Only because the dump DJ narrative is your mantra for everything.


Not entirely. You can find a HOF QB in a bad QB class.

The 2005 QB class was pretty weak. Go look at who it included.

I agree that Producer tends to be a one-trick pony when it comes to DJ, but I also think BBI tends to get hung up on the strength of a position in a particular draft class rather than the strength of a particular prospect or two.

Even if we were going to draft a QB in 2022, we wouldn't be cluster drafting QBs. The depth of the class isn't as relevant as the question of whether a single, significant QB upgrade exists within the 2022 class.

I don't know the answer to that question, but I do know that the strength of the QB class in general is a pretty weak argument since we wouldn't be drafting the entire QB class.



I think strength of a class matters even if not cluster drafting. If you have a weak QB class are you bumping QB's more than you ordinarily would? For example, if you have a weak QB class and you ordinarily bump a QB two rows to account for positional value of a QB, are you unconsciously bumping one 3 rows in this draft? That is why for positions that relative value causes you to not go strictly by grade I like to look at the past draft or two and ask myself if Player X in 2022 Draft was in 2020 Draft or 2021 Draft where would he rank against those at that position and then rank him accordingly in 2022 Draft.

Did Rodgers get bumped due to a weak QB class? Did JP Losman get dinged due to a strong QB class?

IMO, the answer to both questions is "no."
JP Losman  
KDavies : 11/5/2021 10:44 am : link
what a bust he was. I was actually at Tulane at the time. I couldn't believe the Bills not only drafted him in the first round, but traded up for him.

I later met the Bills southern scout, as he was a friend of a friend. I may have mocked him for Losman when drinking.
RE: RE: RE: RE: 5 QBs in the top 30  
Go Terps : 11/5/2021 10:57 am : link
In comment 15443662 WillVAB said:
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This IS a good year to go get a quarterback.



Do you see a Mahomes or Rodgers? Or is just anybody good enough?



You can't wait for a Mahomes or Rodgers. Those guys don't come around often.

You're not drafting a quarterback for the next ten years anymore. You're drafting a QB for the next 4-5 years, with the possibility that it's becomes 10 years or more.




You were touting Rattler a month ago until he got benched. Just stop.


Yeah - now I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. This is when you evaluate these guys.
Thanks Sy for posting this. Question about Ourlads?  
TheMick7 : 11/5/2021 11:09 am : link
Got my 2022 Draft Preview Booklet in & a note saying they are not taking orders for 2022 draft materials. What happened? I've subscribed to Ourlads since its' outset in the 1980's & it would be tragic if they were to stop their coverage.They left the door open to coming back & I certainly hope that is the case!
RE: RE: Sy'56: A Very Hypothetical Question  
Scooter185 : 11/5/2021 11:17 am : link
In comment 15443347 Sy'56 said:
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The 2022 NFL Draft is tomorrow and Malik Willis is still #6 on your Big Board, which just happens to be exactly where the Giants are picking.

The Giants have asked YOU to make the call.

Would you send up a card with the Liberty QB's name on it? And, if not, who then?



If at the end of the year, I didn't think Jones Wass THE guy to get this team back to the postseason as a direct result of his play, I am looking for a new QB. If a prospect meets the grade after the process, yes I am going QB with the early 1st rounder. Building his support (OL) with the pick after assuming the grade meets that spot as well. Which in this class, it likely will. OT/OG/OC all on the table.


Thanks Sy
RE: Thanks Sy for posting this. Question about Ourlads?  
Sy'56 : 11/5/2021 11:48 am : link
In comment 15444028 TheMick7 said:
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Got my 2022 Draft Preview Booklet in & a note saying they are not taking orders for 2022 draft materials. What happened? I've subscribed to Ourlads since its' outset in the 1980's & it would be tragic if they were to stop their coverage.They left the door open to coming back & I certainly hope that is the case!


I cannot disclose but Ourlads isn't going anywhere. May even be getting better soon
RE: RE: Thanks Sy for posting this. Question about Ourlads?  
TheMick7 : 11/5/2021 12:03 pm : link
In comment 15444136 Sy'56 said:
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Got my 2022 Draft Preview Booklet in & a note saying they are not taking orders for 2022 draft materials. What happened? I've subscribed to Ourlads since its' outset in the 1980's & it would be tragic if they were to stop their coverage.They left the door open to coming back & I certainly hope that is the case!



I cannot disclose but Ourlads isn't going anywhere. May even be getting better soon


Thanks Sy,that is GREAT news. I'm a hard copy guy & from the '80's it was Ourlads & Kiper,then Kiper packed it in! I'm SO glad to hear Ourlads is still going to be with us!
Great  
AcidTest : 11/5/2021 12:26 pm : link
stuff. Thanks.
Thanks, Sy  
Mike from Ohio : 11/5/2021 12:27 pm : link
Is Ryan Greenhagen (LB) from Fordham on your radar?

I asked this in a game review thread a few weeks back, but I watch Fordham every week because my nephew is on the team (but unfortunately not a draft prospect). He jumps off the screen every game without fail.

It is a lower level of competition for sure, and he tore his ACL in his senior year which probably buries him with a lot of other guys, but was wondering if you were aware of him or hand any thoughts about him as possibly a late day 3 pick/UDFA.
Nobody Ever Knows  
Jerry in_DC : 11/5/2021 1:01 pm : link
whether there is a Mahomes or Rodgers in the draft.

Look at - literally - Mahomes and Rodgers. If anybody knew they would be Mahomes and Rodgers, they would have been the #1 pick. And teams would've offered 5+ 1st round picks to move up.

Nobody is good at predicting these things with QBs. Look at the 2018 draft - 2 MVP caliber guys, 2 busts, 1 avg QB. Where were they drafted?

You cannot be sure about this. Nobody can. Treat it like a numbers game. You need a good QB. You draft a guy who has the tools. You try him out. If he's good, you keep him . If he's not you try again.

Thats it. Its that simple
Any chance this thread can be linked in the draft section  
aimrocky : 11/6/2021 8:04 am : link
For the rest of the season? It would be great to have quick access to it when surfing through the College games on Saturday’s.
He doesn’t get as much hype  
Mike in NY : 11/6/2021 9:13 am : link
But what are your thoughts on Western Michigan QB Kaleb Eleby?
RE: He doesn’t get as much hype  
Sy'56 : 11/6/2021 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15445105 Mike in NY said:
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But what are your thoughts on Western Michigan QB Kaleb Eleby?


Haven't done him yet beyond background search. We have a UDFA outlook right now. That can change. He still has a couple years of eligibility left and I don't see him being a factor in the 2022 Draft. That is just my opinion.
Sy: Who do you think is the best QB prospect playing college football  
Producer : 11/6/2021 1:47 pm : link
Is it Caleb Williams at the moment?

I know he isn't eligible until 2024, and I know you haven't watched every single prospect. Just wondering if you have an idea who seems most likely to emerge as elite.
RE: Sy: Who do you think is the best QB prospect playing college football  
Sy'56 : 11/6/2021 3:47 pm : link
In comment 15445281 Producer said:
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Is it Caleb Williams at the moment?

I know he isn't eligible until 2024, and I know you haven't watched every single prospect. Just wondering if you have an idea who seems most likely to emerge as elite.


Good question. My gray area answer would be CJ Stroud (Ohio State).

Couple guys that have caught my eye:

Devin Leary (NC State)
Caleb Williams (Oklahoma)
Phil Jurkovec (Boston College)
Will Levis (Kentucky)
RE: RE: He doesn’t get as much hype  
Mike in NY : 11/6/2021 3:50 pm : link
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But what are your thoughts on Western Michigan QB Kaleb Eleby?



Haven't done him yet beyond background search. We have a UDFA outlook right now. That can change. He still has a couple years of eligibility left and I don't see him being a factor in the 2022 Draft. That is just my opinion.


Gotcha. I had noticed him as a Day 3 guy who could exceed expectations. 4th year sophomore due to Covid (Freshman year was 2018).
Sy: would you say no to the Giants drafting a pass rusher  
Angel Eyes : 11/6/2021 3:53 pm : link
in the first round, say Hutchinson or Karlaftis?

RE: Sy: would you say no to the Giants drafting a pass rusher  
Sy'56 : 11/6/2021 4:01 pm : link
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in the first round, say Hutchinson or Karlaftis?


I think that is the RIGHT move if you are asking me right now.
RE: RE: Sy: Who do you think is the best QB prospect playing college football  
Producer : 11/6/2021 4:06 pm : link
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Is it Caleb Williams at the moment?

I know he isn't eligible until 2024, and I know you haven't watched every single prospect. Just wondering if you have an idea who seems most likely to emerge as elite.



Good question. My gray area answer would be CJ Stroud (Ohio State).

Couple guys that have caught my eye:

Devin Leary (NC State)
Caleb Williams (Oklahoma)
Phil Jurkovec (Boston College)
Will Levis (Kentucky)


Thanks, Sy. Appreciate the hard work and insights. I'll stay tuned for your continuing evals of these guys.
Few names I would change  
Giants73 : 11/6/2021 4:33 pm : link
Henderson safety for Mich St should be listed. Dean and Harris should be closer. Ross out of Clemson is an absolute mess physically, he should be much lower. Pickett is this years Trask. Isiah Foskey don’t recall seeing on the list.
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