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Route 9 : 11/7/2021 12:42 pm
Just realized that there is an episode of Dexter waiting on the table for me this morning. Miss that show, no matter how weird it got, it was a nice recovery at the end of a Sunday if the Giants pissed me off. And that was during the Coughlin days!

So hopefully after today's game it's even more horrid and disgusting than before! Who knows?
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Gotta say  
UConn4523 : 11/7/2021 12:47 pm : link
pretty funny seeing this. Dexter turned into a joke of a show with the worst final season and finale I can ever remember. I’d watch it for the comedic relief I guess. But that’s about it.
RE: Gotta say  
Route 9 : 11/7/2021 12:50 pm : link
In comment 15445984 UConn4523 said:
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pretty funny seeing this. Dexter turned into a joke of a show with the worst final season and finale I can ever remember. I’d watch it for the comedic relief I guess. But that’s about it.


Isn't that most shows?

But Big time. The last season was just stupid but I had to keep watching to see where it was heading. Just watched the first episode. We're off to an OK start!
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mitch300 : 11/7/2021 12:55 pm : link
Thought it starts tonight
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Route 9 : 11/7/2021 12:56 pm : link
In comment 15446001 mitch300 said:
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Thought it starts tonight


I did too but checked the Showtime App and it's on there already.
I'm looking  
pjcas18 : 11/7/2021 1:11 pm : link
forward to this. I think (hope) they recognize where they failed and can fix it.
RE: I'm looking  
Route 9 : 11/7/2021 1:20 pm : link
In comment 15446047 pjcas18 said:
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forward to this. I think (hope) they recognize where they failed and can fix it.


It will not even be hard to top how it ended. All the writers have to do is make it boring/mediocre and that will top the last season.
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pjcas18 : 11/7/2021 1:22 pm : link
In comment 15446110 Route 9 said:
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forward to this. I think (hope) they recognize where they failed and can fix it.



It will not even be hard to top how it ended. All the writers have to do is make it boring/mediocre and that will top the last season.


of course, low bar for that, but I was hoping they'd make it as good as the first few seasons.
Just finished reading The Chestnut Man.  
MOOPS : 11/7/2021 1:39 pm : link
Netflix has made it into a miniseries and it's getting good reviews. Haven't started it yet but looking forward to it. Has the kind of darkness present in the early years of Dexter.
Looking forward to starting the new Dexter also.
just rewatched the last few episodes  
RasputinPrime : 11/7/2021 1:46 pm : link
and then the season 9 premier. Such a great show. I didn't hate the season 8 ending as much 9 years later.
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Route 9 : 11/7/2021 1:47 pm : link
I do like they moved him to a small town in the winter. Nice to see Dexter in a different element other than Miami.
Filmed town scenes in Shelburne Falls, Mass  
JoeMorrison40 : 11/7/2021 1:50 pm : link
Storyline town in upper NY state
RE: Gotta say  
John In CO : 11/7/2021 7:10 pm : link
In comment 15445984 UConn4523 said:
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pretty funny seeing this. Dexter turned into a joke of a show with the worst final season and finale I can ever remember. I’d watch it for the comedic relief I guess. But that’s about it.


So if you know that it turned in to a joke of a show with the poor finale, that would mean that you did watch the show when it was good in order to know that it turned to crap. Arent you even curious to see if they are able to "right the wrong" that the final season was??/
I liked the show a lot, albeit not so much towards the end,  
Mad Mike : 11/7/2021 7:22 pm : link
and while I'm intrigued by a new series, I'm skeptical they can recreate the magic of scenes like this one. You just don't see stunt coordination like that very often.
RE: I liked the show a lot, albeit not so much towards the end,  
Route 9 : 11/7/2021 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15447601 Mad Mike said:
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and while I'm intrigued by a new series, I'm skeptical they can recreate the magic of scenes like this one. You just don't see stunt coordination like that very often.


Well now Harrison is a grown up so lol I hope they try it out
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UConn4523 : 11/7/2021 7:38 pm : link
In comment 15447576 John In CO said:
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pretty funny seeing this. Dexter turned into a joke of a show with the worst final season and finale I can ever remember. I’d watch it for the comedic relief I guess. But that’s about it.



So if you know that it turned in to a joke of a show with the poor finale, that would mean that you did watch the show when it was good in order to know that it turned to crap. Arent you even curious to see if they are able to "right the wrong" that the final season was??/


It wasn’t just the final season, the last few were terrible. I watch a lot of tv so I’ll probably get to it eventually, but it isn’t something I care much about.
It wasn't the last few seasons  
pjcas18 : 11/7/2021 7:49 pm : link
people just lump them all together.

season 7 was awesome.

seasons 6 and 8 were brutal, 8 comically so. 6 more just unrealistic even by this shows standard and 8 was like they weren't even trying.

but season 7 was really good - but I do admit by that point I was "hate watching" - that's what I call continuing to watch a show that is now shitty just because you made the multiple season investment and want to see it through to conclusion.

This is what I did with the latest season of Fargo - and the last few of Dexter, but was pleasantly surprised with Dexter season 7.
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Route 9 : 11/7/2021 7:50 pm : link
Spoilers!!




(I mean, c'mon, it's been almost 10 years)


But the original show jumped that damn shark when Dexter didn't kill Hannah when he had her on his table and instead had sex with her. She was a boring character in a boring storyline.

Instead, in the final season, there should've been "the everyone killer" who just took out every character in Miami Metro one by one. Quinn. Deb. Bautista. Laguerta. Masuka. Everyone.
7 was marginally better for me  
UConn4523 : 11/7/2021 7:53 pm : link
Hannah McKay sucked and Ray Stevenson as a Russian (I think) mob boss was funny. But seasons 5 and 6 were so bad 7 was definitely an improvement. 8 was an abomination.
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Route 9 : 11/7/2021 7:58 pm : link
I watched season 5 recently and it was actually better than I remember. Though, nothing really important happened and Julia Stiles character had next to no impact on the show. They should've condensed the last half of the show. Like Deb finding out about Dexter at the end of 5. Then Maria gets it in the middle of 6 and that was the last season.

The thing I hate is the most about season 6 though? They did that dumb "dead the whole time" trope with Edward James Olmos. I mean come on. Why would they bring in Colin Hanks just to be the side bitch?

I did like those horses walking around with the dismembered body parts lol thought that was very cool.

Hated the old lady Dr. Vogrl in season 8, too. Her set up was cool and I thought she was coming to take Dexter down but nope. She created the code lol. So bad. Michael C Hall was great as Dexter but man when she got killed I couldn't stop laughing at how comical that scene was. Awful acting.
RE: 7 was marginally better for me  
Route 9 : 11/7/2021 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15447686 UConn4523 said:
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Hannah McKay sucked and Ray Stevenson as a Russian (I think) mob boss was funny. But seasons 5 and 6 were so bad 7 was definitely an improvement. 8 was an abomination.


He was a gay Ukrainian mobster pissed off about his lover getting killed.
Any time I talk dexter  
pjcas18 : 11/7/2021 8:00 pm : link
with people who watched it I also admit partly what you're saying route 9, but mostly just Deb.

I feel like it would have seemed a lot more "true" if he killed Deb to keep his secret.

not something he would have done lightly or easily since she didn't meet the code, and it would have caused him a lot of anguish but I felt he had to do it. Maybe after she killed LaGuerta

While, as mentioned, I liked season 7, but Deb learning the truth and her reaction was kind of a stretch.
RE: Any time I talk dexter  
Route 9 : 11/7/2021 8:05 pm : link
In comment 15447703 pjcas18 said:
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with people who watched it I also admit partly what you're saying route 9, but mostly just Deb.

I feel like it would have seemed a lot more "true" if he killed Deb to keep his secret.

not something he would have done lightly or easily since she didn't meet the code, and it would have caused him a lot of anguish but I felt he had to do it. Maybe after she killed LaGuerta

While, as mentioned, I liked season 7, but Deb learning the truth and her reaction was kind of a stretch.


Also Dexter doing the perp walk for everyone in Miami Metro homicide to see was an end of the show/final season moment. That happened in the middle of season 7. It lead to nothing and that big, anticipated moment played out was an entire waste.
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Route 9 : 11/7/2021 8:08 pm : link
Watched the first episode of New Blood for the second time (first if you ask my girlfriend) and it was good.
It's none of my business  
BlackLight : 11/7/2021 8:13 pm : link
but I'd be fascinated to know what happened with Hall and Jennifer Carpenter in their marriage.
RE: It wasn't the last few seasons  
eli4life : 11/7/2021 9:38 pm : link
In comment 15447670 pjcas18 said:
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people just lump them all together.

season 7 was awesome.

seasons 6 and 8 were brutal, 8 comically so. 6 more just unrealistic even by this shows standard and 8 was like they weren't even trying.

but season 7 was really good - but I do admit by that point I was "hate watching" - that's what I call continuing to watch a show that is now shitty just because you made the multiple season investment and want to see it through to conclusion.

This is what I did with the latest season of Fargo - and the last few of Dexter, but was pleasantly surprised with Dexter season 7.


I think it started declining when Clyde Phillips left after season 4. I’m excited he’s back for this season. Throw in hall’s bout with cancer and as expected the show suffered
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Route 9 : 11/7/2021 10:29 pm : link
Season 5 was fine but at the same time a let down because I think I hyped it up a bit too much. Hard to believe that was OVER 10 years ago.

The Rita stuff was patched up very quickly but I did enjoy Dexter breaking the news to the step kids and grandparents with a Mickey Mouse hat on his head lol.

I don't know. Julia Stiles just sucked and has always sucked. I never cared for her.

I'm just glad the show is back so I now that I have something to look forward to.
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Route 9 : 11/7/2021 10:35 pm : link
Plus they (Showtime) were making so much money just from the season 5 premier episode alone. I didn't even know Dexter existed until 2008 which was in between seasons 3 and 4, I think.

Nothing will top watching Dexter season 4 the first time around. The Lithgow season might be my all-time favorite TV experience. I watched it again of course and it wasn't the same but sitting in my living room in 2009 watching the last few episodes for the first time was way too gripping.

You didn't get a whole lot of TV like that back then.
that was really good  
KDubbs : 11/8/2021 6:28 pm : link
hope this continues. is that the new harry or was that only "Jim" passenger? will harry come back now?
I’m in the minority on season 4  
UConn4523 : 11/8/2021 6:40 pm : link
Lithgows character and arc got really cartoonish. The end result with Rita was well done but getting there got kind of annoying after a while. That’s the problem with much of the Dexter seasons, they were too long and cat/mouse just dragged and dragged. 8 episodes would have trimmed so much of the redundancy.
RE: I’m in the minority on season 4  
Route 9 : 11/9/2021 10:19 pm : link
In comment 15448963 UConn4523 said:
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Lithgows character and arc got really cartoonish. The end result with Rita was well done but getting there got kind of annoying after a while. That’s the problem with much of the Dexter seasons, they were too long and cat/mouse just dragged and dragged. 8 episodes would have trimmed so much of the redundancy.


Looking back yeah, 12 years later you're possibly right but even before finding out Rita's fate, I've never been more invested in a show when that season aired in 2009.

You don't like the adventures taking place in Dexter? It's a simple, fun concept. Dexter has his guy/woman and it's head-to-head battle for survival and maybe does some night stalking on the side, laced with dark humor.

One season he gets a friend, the next he gets a love interest. Has a kid. Normal life of a serial killer.

I don't know ... how else would you want the show to play out? Yeah the show had its warts but I don't think I ever put an episode on hold, even when Breaking Bad aired at the same time. What a problem it was in the early 2010s! Two shows on at the same time.
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Route 9 : 11/9/2021 10:20 pm : link
A couple friends of mine who were heavily into Breaking Bad now play the show off as it was no big deal. Back then? They couldn't STFU about it.
That was a pretty good episode  
pjcas18 : 11/9/2021 10:27 pm : link
I like the premise, I like the plot with Harrison, and I liked all the imagery.

I was never a fan of Deb, so not sure I'll like it with no James Remar and Deb in that role.

I like his girlfriend.
RE: That was a pretty good episode  
eli4life : 11/10/2021 4:29 am : link
In comment 15450456 pjcas18 said:
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I like the premise, I like the plot with Harrison, and I liked all the imagery.

I was never a fan of Deb, so not sure I'll like it with no James Remar and Deb in that role.

I like his girlfriend.


John lithgow is credited for two episodes. I’m looking forward to seeing how the trinity killer is brought in. Who has that vision dexter or Harrison?
route 9  
UConn4523 : 11/10/2021 8:59 am : link
I definitely really liked Dexter, was very into it pretty much the whole way through. It hit at a good time with a bunch of other great shows and squeaked in a few seasons before social media took off so talking about it at work was a lot of fun (like Lost). Just looking at it from hindsight - they got almost half the series wrong.
Just as a general comment  
Greg from LI : 11/10/2021 11:42 am : link
Very few shows seem to be able to sustain quality for more than 3 or 4 seasons.
RE: That was a pretty good episode  
Route 9 : 11/10/2021 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15450456 pjcas18 said:
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I like the premise, I like the plot with Harrison, and I liked all the imagery.

I was never a fan of Deb, so not sure I'll like it with no James Remar and Deb in that role.

I like his girlfriend.


I like that it felt like a Hallmark movie just with a Dexter theme.

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pjcas18 : 11/10/2021 5:20 pm : link
In comment 15450918 Route 9 said:
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I like the premise, I like the plot with Harrison, and I liked all the imagery.

I was never a fan of Deb, so not sure I'll like it with no James Remar and Deb in that role.

I like his girlfriend.



I like that it felt like a Hallmark movie just with a Dexter theme.


Not far off (in my mind at least), did you read any of the Dexter books? They almost read what I imagine a Hallmark movie book would be like, but obviously darker. Much darker.

Speaking of books, I kind of liked how Dexter's new name was Jim Lindsay, and I wondered if that was paying homage to the Dexter book author Jeff Lindsay.

too coincidental IMO if not.
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Route 9 : 11/10/2021 7:14 pm : link
One of my very very very few flaws is I hate reading books. I heard they're good though. Weren't Dexter and Maria fucking in them? Or deb? Or both?
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pjcas18 : 11/10/2021 7:39 pm : link
In comment 15450989 Route 9 said:
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One of my very very very few flaws is I hate reading books. I heard they're good though. Weren't Dexter and Maria fucking in them? Or deb? Or both?


No, I don't think. Maria (different name in the books, doesn't make it out of the first book - Dexter kills her if I remember right) and he never sleeps with Deb.
Just watched the first episode..  
Sean : 11/10/2021 9:18 pm : link
Meh. I did love Dexter season 4 though, one of my all time favorite TV seasons.
First 3 seasons were easily my favorites  
Giants73 : 11/10/2021 9:53 pm : link
Jimmy admits did a great job in 3 and ITK and BHB were the best of the serial killers. Thought I disliked Julia Stiles season til I re watched, that season was better than 4. 6 was a painful watch. Last two better than 6 but no where’s near the first 3. Watched first episode, without spoilers it is missing James Remar.
RE: First 3 seasons were easily my favorites  
Route 9 : 11/10/2021 10:50 pm : link
In comment 15451157 Giants73 said:
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Jimmy admits did a great job in 3 and ITK and BHB were the best of the serial killers. Thought I disliked Julia Stiles season til I re watched, that season was better than 4. 6 was a painful watch. Last two better than 6 but no where’s near the first 3. Watched first episode, without spoilers it is missing James Remar.


I agree. Jimmy did a phenomenal job in season 3 and a lot of people don't like it.

1 was my favorite.
2 was good
3 was solid
4 was my favorite first time watch
5 was solid
6 was decent. I'll agree with uConn they could've sped things up a bit by this point.
7 was trash
8 was somehow worse than that

Hannah was just my least favorite character of the show and that is saying a lot.
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Route 9 : 11/10/2021 10:52 pm : link
Come to think of it ... Rita's daughter may have been the worst, especially when she started giving lip.
RE: Just as a general comment  
eli4life : 11/10/2021 11:04 pm : link
In comment 15450722 Greg from LI said:
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Very few shows seem to be able to sustain quality for more than 3 or 4 seasons.


A lot had to do with the showriunner leaving I think his name is Clyde Phillips. He’s doing the new blood season.
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Route 9 : 11/14/2021 8:16 pm : link
Bump for epsiode 2
Apparently when Harrison was dropped off  
eli4life : 11/15/2021 1:19 am : link
The voice you heard that said the town was 2 miles that way was the guy who played doakes Erik King
It seems to me  
BlackLight : 11/15/2021 3:36 am : link
that Dexter's police chief girlfriend looks a little too much like Debra for it to be sheer coincidence.
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Route 9 : 11/15/2021 8:26 am : link
I liked ghost Deb taunting Dexter.

Also, we don't have to worry about Hannah making a return to visit Dexter.
I don't like Deb  
pjcas18 : 11/15/2021 8:35 am : link
as the Dark Passenger, I liked Harry in that role because Harry didn't try and prevent Dexter from killing, his voice was to help make sure Dexter understood the code and was protecting himself.

Deb just tries to discourage him (so far) and where is the fun in that?
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Route 9 : 11/15/2021 9:13 am : link
Harry felt empathetic (or whatever) for Dexter when he found him in that shipping container. Deb's a bit different since she found out her step bro is a killer after midway through the show. She was pissed off at Dexter for being the Bay Harbor butcher so it would make sense Deb would be pissed off in the afterlife.

If I remember correctly, the ghost Harry didn't make any appearances in the final Dexter episode. Not even one.

Lol. Blaming Dexter for being dead is something Deb would definitely do. If Dexter hadn't left the room and Deb did her job, Oliver Saxon wouldn't have shot her. Everything was good in Deb's book until that point. She thought she was going to bag Saxon without Dexter but she needed him more than ever. Also she wouldn't have had the career she had if it wasn't for Dexter leaving her tips early on in the show.
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