Yeah, let's get real, people. There are 100 guys from those 70s teams who are worse than anyone we could name. Pisarcik was pretty awful. You know who was worse? His backup.
But Joe Pisarcik‘s fumble was about as disappointed as I’ve ever been as a fan. I dunno, that game just crushed me at the time. And it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Oh, and McAdoo. No words to describe how cringe-worthy he was.
I held my breath every time the ball was snapped to him. So many turnovers and bad kicks. Maybe my memory exaggerates but I remember many fumbled snaps.
But 4 off the top of my head: Cedric Jones, Kanavis McGhee, William Joseph or Derrick Brown. All high draft picks that did jack shit once they came to the Giants. Typing this is making me nauseous.
ANY Giant who just gave up during a season. The list is endless. If a dude sucks like Dodge, fine...that's one thing. But I can't stand when men don't give a damn & just are going through the motions.
RE: Tommy Maddox had the single worst performance I can recall
If there was ever one player that singlehandedly tanked a season, it would be CC Brown.
Someone on here at the time cleverly came up with
"Bad bad CC Brown
Baddest DB in the whole dang town
Worse than Jeremy Lincoln
Don't know what the $!#@ Reese was thinking..."
He lost games for the Giants. You cannot have a punter who “just needs experience” as some suggested when he played for the Giants. The punter must be born fully formed or you WILL lose games.
with another team so maybe it was coaching. I hated Bobby Duhon returning punts in the early 70s, but my worse player of all time has to be ??? I don't know. They're are too many.
As egregious as the usual suspects mentioned here but do you guys remember when the Giants signed Brandon Myers to be the starting TE? He was so brutal, I couldn't believe he had been a starter in the league. Shockingly bad.
against the Redskins in that season opener was one of the worst I have ever seen as I sat in the stands and watched it unfold. He went to the Jets later that season & was burned by Toomer and Kerry Collins.
But the biggest disgrace to ever wear the Giants uniform was Jeremiah Parker, and it's not close for 2nd. Being involved in the death of a 4 year old child is on whole other level.
On a 2010 team with a decimated receiving corps, his only moment worth mentioning involved standing around as the Eagles recovered a crucial onside kick. It doesn’t help that the Giants chose to stash Victor Cruz on IR and keep Calhoun.
Wasn’t that much better than CC. Funny how I don’t value safeties too highly but these two were my first thoughts. Hmmm. Maybe Safety is more important than we think? Maybe there’s a reason why Belichick and Brady pretty much worship Ed Reed? Hopefully the Giants have a guy like that soon.
Sinorice was so damn bad though. 3 TDs and 425 yards from scrimmage as a potential “steal” 2nd round pick. For his 4 year 37 game only NYG career. Santana was legit and he did his thing vs. us, so we drafted his brother because we were/we’re kinda stupid?
I understand other players having the most terrible single moments in the biggest games, like Trey Junkin and Matt Dodge.
But both weren't objectively terrible at their jobs repeatedly like CC Brown was. CC stood for Can't Cover. I've never seen a safety burned deep so often as CC.
Junkin was a pretty good long snapper until the play that shall not be mentioned.
Dodge was a rookie that had real talent but made a rookie mistake in a big game.
QB Jesse Palmer
RB Michael Cox
WR Preston Parker
WR Roger Lewis
TE Adrian Robinson
OL Nate Solder
OL Charles Brown
LB Uani Unga
LB Calvin Munson
CB Ralph Brown
CB Jayron Hosley
S CC Brown
S Craig Dahl
James Brewer and Jayron Hosley. Two guys that were completely taken advantage of when on the field. The only thing worse than their football talent was their football intelligence.
with another team so maybe it was coaching. I hated Bobby Duhon returning punts in the early 70s, but my worse player of all time has to be ??? I don't know. They're are too many.
Yea I remember him in the XFL lighting it up and then he led to Steelers to the playoffs after the XFL folded. Strangely I don't remember him being a Giant
but possibly the worst performance I have ever seen from a Giants player was Janoris Jenkins in the 31-21 debacle in SF. He played like a dog that day.
Although the disaster that was Tommy Maddox is hard to top. 6-23 with 3 picks v Philly is hard to top.
Cedric Jones wasnt a good pass rusher, but was a pretty stout run defending DE who started on a super bowl team. You need to dig deeper into the depths of awfulness and really think about the word DISGRACE.
I would insult people like Jones and dayne by lumping them in with Jeremy Lincoln and CC Brown
RE: I should have made the post worst player you have seen
Michael Croel was pretty bad,
Mike Horan, The DT Agnew Reeeves brought in, all these guys
You weren't a fan of the NJ Broncos?
How about when Reeves cut the young 6'5" Ed McCaffrey, so he could bring in from Denver, the 30 something oft injured Mike Sherrard and mediocre smirf Arthur Marshall?
Tommy Maddox was tough to watch and I remember really not liking him but I don’t know that he disgraced the field.
Damontre Moore was such a fucking idiot but probably too dumb to know any better.
I always thought OBJ was a world class asshole. That interview he did after signing for all that money and the Giants making him the highest paid player and the face of the franchise and throwing Eli under the bus. That was world class dickery. And the crap with Josh Norman was even more pathetic and disgraceful. If you took all the talent that OBJ wasted, you’d have one hell of an NFL receiver. And unlike a lot of the young men in the NFL, OBJ came from a traditional family and very stable background. He was, and remains, a straight up douchebag and his disregard for his special talent make him a disgrace on the field.
He was here all of 5 minutes and left a pain that will last a lifetime
Three things on that:
1) The Giants were going to lose in Tampa the next week
2) Trey Junkin didn't blow a 38-14 lead by himself
3) That playoff game and subsequent 4-12 season led directly to the hiring of Tom Coughlin and the move to acquire Eli Manning on draft day
If you're still suffering from that playoff loss, I don't know what to tell you other than you should have forgotten about it a long time ago.
Gotta be some kind of combo of attitude and wasted talent
As bad as Ian Allen and CC Brown were, they were just that: unskilled players being asked to do more than they were capable of. I don't recall either being uncoachable, asshole paycheck collectors.
Ereck Flowers and William Joseph on the other hand...
There were players that were certainly worse than Kanell but they were so inconsequential that they are not worth mentioning.
he led the Giants to the playoffs in his first season as starter and if the defense didn’t have a meltdown and chris Calloway didn’t muff an onside kick they would have pulled out a playoff win. You can’t put him on the same level as CC Brown Ian Allen Nate Solder Markus Kuhn and other players who embarrassed themselves in blue.
There were players that were certainly worse than Kanell but they were so inconsequential that they are not worth mentioning.
he led the Giants to the playoffs in his first season as starter and if the defense didn’t have a meltdown and chris Calloway didn’t muff an onside kick they would have pulled out a playoff win. You can’t put him on the same level as CC Brown Ian Allen Nate Solder Markus Kuhn and other players who embarrassed themselves in blue.
Well if he "led" them to the playoffs in his first season as a starter, how do you explain that they went 8-8 in his 2nd season and even worse, a 3-7 record in games Kanell started? He sucked, big time.
I noted in my post that there certainly players that were worse than Kanell but they were too inconsequential to mention. Other than Solder, those you mention fall into that category.
The OP asked for a list of the worst Giant players. An argument can be made for CC Brown, Matt Dodge, Tommy Maddox and others who just stunk from the beginning of their Giant careers until the end. But Danny Kanell , Cedric Jones ?
I think the people who post nonsense like that just want to see their idiotic comments in print. Danny Kanell was a below average quarterback. An argument can be made that he didn't deserve to start. Still he played well enough to get us to the playoffs and he played well enough to win that playoff game if Cab Calloway could hold on to an onside kick.
Cedric Jones was a first round draft pick who played like a third round draft pick. He was good enough to start and he was an adequate run blocker. Poor draft choice ? Yes. One of the worst Giants of all time ? Ridiculous
The OP asked for a list of the worst Giant players. An argument can be made for CC Brown, Matt Dodge, Tommy Maddox and others who just stunk from the beginning of their Giant careers until the end. But Danny Kanell , Cedric Jones ?
I think the people who post nonsense like that just want to see their idiotic comments in print. Danny Kanell was a below average quarterback. An argument can be made that he didn't deserve to start. Still he played well enough to get us to the playoffs and he played well enough to win that playoff game if Cab Calloway could hold on to an onside kick.
Cedric Jones was a first round draft pick who played like a third round draft pick. He was good enough to start and he was an adequate run blocker. Poor draft choice ? Yes. One of the worst Giants of all time ? Ridiculous
Again, in his 2nd season, the Giants were 3-7 with Kanell as their starter and 5-1 without him. That defines a QB who truly sucked. True, anybody can name dozens of players that made a handful of starts or spent only one season with the Giants that were worse than Kanell or Jones. Again, I prefaced my Kanell choice by stating I was considering only players of consequence. Sorry, that you were unable to comprehend that.
“Disgrace the field”! Beckham without a doubt the most disgraceful act
but Larry Donnell was very annoying to watch. I've never seen a player who was worse at getting tackled. He would attempt so many awkward flips and hurdles.
I focused on "disgracing the field" and there were at least three times I can think of off the top of my head when Plaxico disgraced the field. And Jeff Hatch caused a season-ending injury to a young, promising undrafted player (I forget the name) during a mini-camp because he didn't follow safeguarding instructions. That pissed me off. And he was a wasted 3rd round pick besides that.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Tito "OJ Lite" Wooten.
Dave Meggett’s gotta’ be part of the Giants All Felon team. Along with LT (and it pains me to write that) Meggett’s one of the all time biggest scumbags to wear the Giants uniform.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Tito "OJ Lite" Wooten.
Dave Meggett’s gotta’ be part of the Giants All Felon team. Along with LT (and it pains me to write that) Meggett’s one of the all time biggest scumbags to wear the Giants uniform.
The stuff that LT did was a parking ticket compared to what Meggett did and what Wooton possibly did. In pains me to see that LT is mentioned in the same sentence and gets so much shit about it on a Giants board.
The OP asked for a list of the worst Giant players. An argument can be made for CC Brown, Matt Dodge, Tommy Maddox and others who just stunk from the beginning of their Giant careers until the end. But Danny Kanell , Cedric Jones ?
I think the people who post nonsense like that just want to see their idiotic comments in print. Danny Kanell was a below average quarterback. An argument can be made that he didn't deserve to start. Still he played well enough to get us to the playoffs and he played well enough to win that playoff game if Cab Calloway could hold on to an onside kick.
Cedric Jones was a first round draft pick who played like a third round draft pick. He was good enough to start and he was an adequate run blocker. Poor draft choice ? Yes. One of the worst Giants of all time ? Ridiculous
Fake peeing and the the nonsense against Carolina.
He acted like a disgrace at times (though I didn’t get upset about the dog pee celebration) but his run from 2014-2016 were the most dominant three years I’ve seen any Giant receiver put together and one of the best career starts since Moss or Rice.
The stuff that LT did was a parking ticket compared to what Meggett did and what Wooton possibly did. In pains me to see that LT is mentioned in the same sentence and gets so much shit about it on a Giants board.
The last thing I heard about LT was that he was arrested in a hotel room with crack and planning to rape a 16 year sex trafficking victim. That’s a parking ticket? And if it weren’t the world famous LT, what do you suppose the charges and sentencing would be? Speeding? Points on his license?
In my opinion, LT shouldn’t even be allowed in Giants Stadium. He’s been a reckless drunk and a drug addict and a menace to society for a lot longer than it’s been acknowledged or reported. If he weren’t the greatest football player ever (and he is undoubtably the greatest defensive pro football player ever) he would be just another drug addict and almost certainly in lock up or, more likely, deceased. Any notion that he’s some kind of good guy is, in my assessment, entirely misplaced.
I have rarely seen NFL players refuse to do their job on the field. These 2 actively allowed opponents to run past them on the field while making no effort to tackle them.
Jerry Golstyn f'r crissakes. He was maybe the worst pile of warm turd I ever saw in a Giants uniform, and I lived through the entire decade of the 19f-in70s man.
He was here all of 5 minutes and left a pain that will last a lifetime
Three things on that:
1) The Giants were going to lose in Tampa the next week
2) Trey Junkin didn't blow a 38-14 lead by himself
3) That playoff game and subsequent 4-12 season led directly to the hiring of Tom Coughlin and the move to acquire Eli Manning on draft day
If you're still suffering from that playoff loss, I don't know what to tell you other than you should have forgotten about it a long time ago.
+1 not to mention the guy was retired and watching the NFL from his couch. If you want someone to blame, point the finger at the Giants for having to pull a guy off of the couch to snap the ball.
Not sure how anyone can hate on a guy who was put in a shitty position....and very rusty
He disgraced himself when he made no effort to tackle a DB who had just intercepted a ball in front of him (Strahan called him out for it in a radio interview). He disgraced himself on the sideline when he turned his back and walked away while Coughlin was still talking to him. He disgraced himself when he wasn't healthy enough to play but didn't want to lose out on his per-game bonus check so he ran the first play of the game and then took himself out. And he disgraced himself when he pretended to be injured and sat out training camp in a contract dispute, because he didn't want to pay the fines that come with a typical contract hold-out.
He was a basketball player who wasn't good enough for the NBA so he turned to football for a paycheck. But that was all it ever was to him. He was an entitled asshole. He reneged on his payment to Feagles for the number 17 jersey (reneging on promises was a common theme for him that extended well beyond his teammates). And don't get me started on all the people he compromised in his effort to avoid accountability for firing a loaded gun in a nightclub. There have been lower character guys to wear a Giants jersey than Plaxico Burress, but he's right there scraping the bottom with the worst of them.
CC Brown
Curtis Riley
A CB you didn’t want covering his man because he was gonna get called for a penalty whatever he did.
Precursor to Eli Apple.
But worse.
Oh, and McAdoo. No words to describe how cringe-worthy he was.
He was here all of 5 minutes and left a pain that will last a lifetime
Yes
At least Bethea was just old. CC Brown was horrid.
Ron Dayne wasn’t a great back, but he is miles from being the all time Giants disgrace.of a player.
yep, this was mine
Michael Croel was pretty bad,
Mike Horan, The DT Agnew Reeeves brought in, all these guys
This got me thinking, “what has Pisarcik been up to these days?”
Google tells me he has not done much with his life. - ( New Window )
And he was the last starting Giant QB to wear #8 decades before Jones
His 0.0 rating game against Philly in 1995 was a low point in my young fandom at that point. The team really couldn't seem to get any worse
Someone on here at the time cleverly came up with
"Bad bad CC Brown
Baddest DB in the whole dang town
Worse than Jeremy Lincoln
Don't know what the $!#@ Reese was thinking..."
LOL
This is the correct answer, at least in my lifetime.
Seawright.
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Ron Dayne wasn’t a great back, but he is miles from being the all time Giants disgrace.of a player.
As a rookie Dayne put up numbers I can only hope one of our RBs match this year
+ infinity
But the biggest disgrace to ever wear the Giants uniform was Jeremiah Parker, and it's not close for 2nd. Being involved in the death of a 4 year old child is on whole other level.
Wolfok was a little past the 70's. He played in the early 80's
Sinorice was so damn bad though. 3 TDs and 425 yards from scrimmage as a potential “steal” 2nd round pick. For his 4 year 37 game only NYG career. Santana was legit and he did his thing vs. us, so we drafted his brother because we were/we’re kinda stupid?
But both weren't objectively terrible at their jobs repeatedly like CC Brown was. CC stood for Can't Cover. I've never seen a safety burned deep so often as CC.
Junkin was a pretty good long snapper until the play that shall not be mentioned.
Dodge was a rookie that had real talent but made a rookie mistake in a big game.
CC was just abysmal over and over.
QB Jesse Palmer
RB Michael Cox
WR Preston Parker
WR Roger Lewis
TE Adrian Robinson
OL Nate Solder
OL Charles Brown
LB Uani Unga
LB Calvin Munson
CB Ralph Brown
CB Jayron Hosley
S CC Brown
S Craig Dahl
One of the dumbest players I have ever seen on the professional level. Single-handedly cost us games with his bonehead penalties.
Amazingly, this idiot is still in the league on the Panthers practice squad.
And that god awful safety we had in 2009. Can’t remember his name
Brewer never got in a defensive's players way.
I would take three fourths of the players named, over the above.
Those 2011 and 2012 Drafts were god awful...
Which one was the one who cheapshotted TO when he was getting up?
That fucker
Yea I remember him in the XFL lighting it up and then he led to Steelers to the playoffs after the XFL folded. Strangely I don't remember him being a Giant
One kid asked him how hard is it to continue to play when your team loses so much.
He responded, "As long as the pay check keeps coming it doesn't really matter to me."
Results should always matter.
Although the disaster that was Tommy Maddox is hard to top. 6-23 with 3 picks v Philly is hard to top.
Trey Junkin
Ian Allen
Jon Hilliman
Brandon Meyers
Will Demps
Craig Dahl
Spencer Pulley
He was here all of 5 minutes and left a pain that will last a lifetime
+1
I would insult people like Jones and dayne by lumping them in with Jeremy Lincoln and CC Brown
Michael Croel was pretty bad,
Mike Horan, The DT Agnew Reeeves brought in, all these guys
You weren't a fan of the NJ Broncos?
How about when Reeves cut the young 6'5" Ed McCaffrey, so he could bring in from Denver, the 30 something oft injured Mike Sherrard and mediocre smirf Arthur Marshall?
Damontre Moore was such a fucking idiot but probably too dumb to know any better.
I always thought OBJ was a world class asshole. That interview he did after signing for all that money and the Giants making him the highest paid player and the face of the franchise and throwing Eli under the bus. That was world class dickery. And the crap with Josh Norman was even more pathetic and disgraceful. If you took all the talent that OBJ wasted, you’d have one hell of an NFL receiver. And unlike a lot of the young men in the NFL, OBJ came from a traditional family and very stable background. He was, and remains, a straight up douchebag and his disregard for his special talent make him a disgrace on the field.
He was here all of 5 minutes and left a pain that will last a lifetime
Three things on that:
1) The Giants were going to lose in Tampa the next week
2) Trey Junkin didn't blow a 38-14 lead by himself
3) That playoff game and subsequent 4-12 season led directly to the hiring of Tom Coughlin and the move to acquire Eli Manning on draft day
If you're still suffering from that playoff loss, I don't know what to tell you other than you should have forgotten about it a long time ago.
Ereck Flowers and William Joseph on the other hand...
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This is the correct answer, at least in my lifetime.
Ian Allen would start for this team.
2. Sam Beal
3. Patrick Omameh
4. Billy Price
5. Marvin Austin
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There were players that were certainly worse than Kanell but they were so inconsequential that they are not worth mentioning.
he led the Giants to the playoffs in his first season as starter and if the defense didn’t have a meltdown and chris Calloway didn’t muff an onside kick they would have pulled out a playoff win. You can’t put him on the same level as CC Brown Ian Allen Nate Solder Markus Kuhn and other players who embarrassed themselves in blue.
Well if he "led" them to the playoffs in his first season as a starter, how do you explain that they went 8-8 in his 2nd season and even worse, a 3-7 record in games Kanell started? He sucked, big time.
I noted in my post that there certainly players that were worse than Kanell but they were too inconsequential to mention. Other than Solder, those you mention fall into that category.
I think the people who post nonsense like that just want to see their idiotic comments in print. Danny Kanell was a below average quarterback. An argument can be made that he didn't deserve to start. Still he played well enough to get us to the playoffs and he played well enough to win that playoff game if Cab Calloway could hold on to an onside kick.
Cedric Jones was a first round draft pick who played like a third round draft pick. He was good enough to start and he was an adequate run blocker. Poor draft choice ? Yes. One of the worst Giants of all time ? Ridiculous
Plaxico?!
Oh, FFS....
I think the people who post nonsense like that just want to see their idiotic comments in print. Danny Kanell was a below average quarterback. An argument can be made that he didn't deserve to start. Still he played well enough to get us to the playoffs and he played well enough to win that playoff game if Cab Calloway could hold on to an onside kick.
Cedric Jones was a first round draft pick who played like a third round draft pick. He was good enough to start and he was an adequate run blocker. Poor draft choice ? Yes. One of the worst Giants of all time ? Ridiculous
Again, in his 2nd season, the Giants were 3-7 with Kanell as their starter and 5-1 without him. That defines a QB who truly sucked. True, anybody can name dozens of players that made a handful of starts or spent only one season with the Giants that were worse than Kanell or Jones. Again, I prefaced my Kanell choice by stating I was considering only players of consequence. Sorry, that you were unable to comprehend that.
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Plaxico?!
Oh, FFS....
Dave Meggett’s gotta’ be part of the Giants All Felon team. Along with LT (and it pains me to write that) Meggett’s one of the all time biggest scumbags to wear the Giants uniform.
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Tito "OJ Lite" Wooten.
Dave Meggett’s gotta’ be part of the Giants All Felon team. Along with LT (and it pains me to write that) Meggett’s one of the all time biggest scumbags to wear the Giants uniform.
I think the people who post nonsense like that just want to see their idiotic comments in print. Danny Kanell was a below average quarterback. An argument can be made that he didn't deserve to start. Still he played well enough to get us to the playoffs and he played well enough to win that playoff game if Cab Calloway could hold on to an onside kick.
Cedric Jones was a first round draft pick who played like a third round draft pick. He was good enough to start and he was an adequate run blocker. Poor draft choice ? Yes. One of the worst Giants of all time ? Ridiculous
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He was here all of 5 minutes and left a pain that will last a lifetime
+1
+2 I was wondering how far I’d have to scroll to get to him.
The last thing I heard about LT was that he was arrested in a hotel room with crack and planning to rape a 16 year sex trafficking victim. That’s a parking ticket? And if it weren’t the world famous LT, what do you suppose the charges and sentencing would be? Speeding? Points on his license?
In my opinion, LT shouldn’t even be allowed in Giants Stadium. He’s been a reckless drunk and a drug addict and a menace to society for a lot longer than it’s been acknowledged or reported. If he weren’t the greatest football player ever (and he is undoubtably the greatest defensive pro football player ever) he would be just another drug addict and almost certainly in lock up or, more likely, deceased. Any notion that he’s some kind of good guy is, in my assessment, entirely misplaced.
Looney never played a down for the Giants. Biscaha was a pre-season phenom who never panned out but he wasn't a "disgrace."
Reeves' f-ing nephew.
Had no business being on an NFL roster...
still, at least we didn't waste a draft pick on him, like the J-E-T-S did (ha ha ha). A third rounder, I think? I'm not looking it up...
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He was here all of 5 minutes and left a pain that will last a lifetime
Three things on that:
1) The Giants were going to lose in Tampa the next week
2) Trey Junkin didn't blow a 38-14 lead by himself
3) That playoff game and subsequent 4-12 season led directly to the hiring of Tom Coughlin and the move to acquire Eli Manning on draft day
If you're still suffering from that playoff loss, I don't know what to tell you other than you should have forgotten about it a long time ago.
+1 not to mention the guy was retired and watching the NFL from his couch. If you want someone to blame, point the finger at the Giants for having to pull a guy off of the couch to snap the ball.
Not sure how anyone can hate on a guy who was put in a shitty position....and very rusty
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Plaxico?!
Oh, FFS....
I focused on "disgracing the field" and there were at least three times I can think of off the top of my head when Plaxico disgraced the field.
Your explanation still makes no sense - when did Plaxico disgrace himself ON the field?
Honorable mention to the forgettable Rocky Thompson from 1971. A complete washout who was drafted with Jack Youngblood still on the board. Yikes!
And both were first round picks. Nice scouting job by someone.
+1. I will never forget him tripping over his own feet while trying to step and slide and giving up a sack.
He was a basketball player who wasn't good enough for the NBA so he turned to football for a paycheck. But that was all it ever was to him. He was an entitled asshole. He reneged on his payment to Feagles for the number 17 jersey (reneging on promises was a common theme for him that extended well beyond his teammates). And don't get me started on all the people he compromised in his effort to avoid accountability for firing a loaded gun in a nightclub. There have been lower character guys to wear a Giants jersey than Plaxico Burress, but he's right there scraping the bottom with the worst of them.