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A name I don't think I've seen as possible next GM?

bigblue5611 : 11/18/2021 9:45 am
Mike Greenberg, director of football administration for the Bucs. I don't believe I've seen his name thrown around here but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I found this tweeted in today's media thread but thought it may warrant it's own discussion. Outside of this article I don't know a whole lot about him but Arians apparently loves him and seems like he's highly thought of and is a graduate of Cornell and Hofstra Law. Also a Long Island native.

The article is originally from earlier this year (before the SB) but again, thought it was worth putting out there.

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"He’s unbelievable," coach Bruce Arians said. "If there is any type of question about anything, he has the answer. It’s absolutely amazing. He is tireless and on the phone 20 out of 24 hours a day. He’s invaluable to this organization."


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He’s Mike Greenberg. Not the ubiquitous ESPN daytime programming presence but the former three-sport athlete at Bellmore JFK High School and graduate of Cornell and Hofstra Law School who is the current director of football administration for the Buccaneers. And every decision the Buccaneers have made to get to this point, to get within a win of a Lombardi Trophy, has crossed his desk in some form or another.

That goes from physically writing the contract that Brady signed to join the team last spring — and figuring out an unorthodox way of getting signatures on the document from a thousand miles away in the earliest stages of the pandemic — right down to the types of seeds that are planted on the practice fields and at Raymond James Stadium.
"I‘ve learned a lot about the different types of grass and fields, more than I ever thought I would learn," Greenberg laughed.

His main job, though, is compliance with the league’s collective bargaining agreement and the team’s salary cap.
"I always was drawn to the salary cap," Greenberg told Newsday. "I’ve always been a numbers person. It’s interesting how they make the whole puzzle fit and I was kind of drawn to it."

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Sorry- can't help myself  
FranknWeezer : 11/18/2021 10:04 am : link
Lifestyle in Tampa is wonderful.  
George from PA : 11/18/2021 10:05 am : link
Why would he want to come to NJ?

Besides....what has he really done?
As with Abrams, I'm a little dubious of guys  
Section331 : 11/18/2021 10:14 am : link
who are "cap experts". That's great, and absolutely an invaluable asset to a team, but does that make him a good GM target? Can he evaluate personnel? Can he put together a draft board, or a FA target list?
RE: Lifestyle in Tampa is wonderful.  
bigblue5611 : 11/18/2021 10:19 am : link
In comment 15457264 George from PA said:
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Why would he want to come to NJ?

Besides....what has he really done?


Did you read the article? I'll answer your questions with two quotes.

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"Mike Greenberg is one of the first people you would want to build a team with if you need a general manager," said Dave Gardi, the NFL’s senior vice president of football operations, who had Greenberg as his intern in the league office in early 2009. "If you gave Mike the keys to an organization and let him run with it I know he’d bring in great people. His name should be considered. He deserves that."


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Despite his 11 years in Tampa, Greenberg is still a Long Island guy at his core. Every summer for the past six years he, his brother Jay and his sister Lauren rent a house in Southold for a few weeks during the NFL’s offseason.
"We love it out there," he said. "I never really went there growing up as a kid and you always hear about the Hamptons, but the North Fork is great."




RE: As with Abrams, I'm a little dubious of guys  
bigblue5611 : 11/18/2021 10:21 am : link
In comment 15457274 Section331 said:
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who are "cap experts". That's great, and absolutely an invaluable asset to a team, but does that make him a good GM target? Can he evaluate personnel? Can he put together a draft board, or a FA target list?


I'll answer your question with another question. Is it solely on the GM to do all of that? Or does the GM need to put the right people in place to help them make those evaluations and then make the right decisions based off the info gathered.
He couldn’t be any worse  
Dave on the UWS : 11/18/2021 10:23 am : link
at least he’s smart.
RE: RE: As with Abrams, I'm a little dubious of guys  
Section331 : 11/18/2021 10:26 am : link
In comment 15457284 bigblue5611 said:
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who are "cap experts". That's great, and absolutely an invaluable asset to a team, but does that make him a good GM target? Can he evaluate personnel? Can he put together a draft board, or a FA target list?



I'll answer your question with another question. Is it solely on the GM to do all of that? Or does the GM need to put the right people in place to help them make those evaluations and then make the right decisions based off the info gathered.


Of course not, but are you willing to turn your organization over to a pure numbers guy (not saying Greenburg is only a numbers guy) who has no expertise in personnel? Seems to me finding a numbers guy would be easier than finding someone who understands personnel and team-building.
RE: RE: RE: As with Abrams, I'm a little dubious of guys  
bigblue5611 : 11/18/2021 10:31 am : link
In comment 15457292 Section331 said:
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Of course not, but are you willing to turn your organization over to a pure numbers guy (not saying Greenburg is only a numbers guy) who has no expertise in personnel? Seems to me finding a numbers guy would be easier than finding someone who understands personnel and team-building.


I get what you're saying and I hope you don't/didn't take my response as an attack, just dialogue. As far as the personnel aspect goes, I guess none of us know what he truly has or has not done there? I'd be open to at least bringing him and/or others like him in for an interview at the least. He's young, obviously smart and seemingly very well thought of by others in the NFL. Wouldn't hurt to speak to...
^^  
bigblue5611 : 11/18/2021 10:33 am : link
I know the article mentions what his main role is, but I meant to say who knows if he has or has not done anything in the personnel side of things. I'd bet you're probably right that he hasn't done much, if any, but if the right personnel people could be brought in alongside... The problem still lies with the Maras (Chris especially), however...
That guy sounds great  
Jerry in_DC : 11/18/2021 10:44 am : link
Smart, hard working, knowledgeable. Definitely the kind of guy we need.

Could you image Gettleman being described as knowing the answer to any question? I don't know much else about the guy but he'd obviously be a massive improvement on the current disaster and he's the type of guy id hope we're looking at
Maybe He Can Improve the Turf  
Samiam : 11/18/2021 10:48 am : link
Fewer injuries. Already an upgrade to Gettleman
Do you think there were times  
Dnew15 : 11/18/2021 10:58 am : link
where DG just overruled the entire scouting department and coaching staff?
RE: Do you think there were times  
bigblue5611 : 11/18/2021 11:12 am : link
In comment 15457335 Dnew15 said:
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where DG just overruled the entire scouting department and coaching staff?


No clue, but it wouldn't surprise me.
 
christian : 11/18/2021 11:17 am : link
What has he really done? Win a Super Bowl is pretty high up there.
Director of football operations?  
Spiciest Memelord : 11/18/2021 11:43 am : link
Sounds like a salary cap guy who sets the price of hot dogs real good. Pass. Give me an ex football player team building personnel guy.
No matter who we hire  
Johnny5 : 11/18/2021 12:11 pm : link
Half of BBI will say they suck and give example after example of their own correct armchair hindsight analyses vs. said GM.

Rinse and repeat.

lol
RE: RE: RE: RE: As with Abrams, I'm a little dubious of guys  
Section331 : 11/18/2021 12:18 pm : link
In comment 15457296 bigblue5611 said:
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Of course not, but are you willing to turn your organization over to a pure numbers guy (not saying Greenburg is only a numbers guy) who has no expertise in personnel? Seems to me finding a numbers guy would be easier than finding someone who understands personnel and team-building.



I get what you're saying and I hope you don't/didn't take my response as an attack, just dialogue. As far as the personnel aspect goes, I guess none of us know what he truly has or has not done there? I'd be open to at least bringing him and/or others like him in for an interview at the least. He's young, obviously smart and seemingly very well thought of by others in the NFL. Wouldn't hurt to speak to...


I don't take it as an attack at all, I appreciate the give and take. Yes, he may have good personnel experience, which would make him a good candidate. My point was more of a rebuttal to those who have thought Abrams would be a good GM because he's done a good job with the cap (which is an arguable position to say the least!).
RE: Lifestyle in Tampa is wonderful.  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 11/18/2021 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15457264 George from PA said:
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Why would he want to come to NJ?

Besides....what has he really done?


There is always one of thess, "Why would anyone want to come here?"

He’s their version of Abrams  
BillT : 11/18/2021 1:58 pm : link
I’m sure he’s great but that’s not the normal resume for a GM who tend to come from the personnel side.
RE: He’s their version of Abrams  
bigblue5611 : 11/18/2021 2:03 pm : link
In comment 15457557 BillT said:
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I’m sure he’s great but that’s not the normal resume for a GM who tend to come from the personnel side.


I get that sentiment, but I also haven't seen anyone come out and say Abrams will be a great GM and deserves a shot as a couple people (who are outside the TB organization) in this article are quoted as saying about Greenberg.
RE: RE: He’s their version of Abrams  
BillT : 11/18/2021 2:58 pm : link
In comment 15457559 bigblue5611 said:
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In comment 15457557 BillT said:


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I’m sure he’s great but that’s not the normal resume for a GM who tend to come from the personnel side.



I get that sentiment, but I also haven't seen anyone come out and say Abrams will be a great GM and deserves a shot as a couple people (who are outside the TB organization) in this article are quoted as saying about Greenberg.

And this isn’t a puff piece by a LI paper about a LI kid.
RE: RE: RE: He’s their version of Abrams  
bigblue5611 : 11/18/2021 3:06 pm : link
In comment 15457591 BillT said:
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In comment 15457559 bigblue5611 said:


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In comment 15457557 BillT said:


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I’m sure he’s great but that’s not the normal resume for a GM who tend to come from the personnel side.



I get that sentiment, but I also haven't seen anyone come out and say Abrams will be a great GM and deserves a shot as a couple people (who are outside the TB organization) in this article are quoted as saying about Greenberg.


And this isn’t a puff piece by a LI paper about a LI kid.


You may have a valid argument there.
Sign me up  
The Jake : 11/18/2021 3:39 pm : link
as long as he has the ability to make his own decisions, I'm in.
I didn't see where  
Gman11 : 11/18/2021 4:16 pm : link
this guy can evaluate personnel. Isn't that one of the most important jobs of a GM?

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