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Reporter doubles down on ‘lousy’ Dwayne Haskins warmup repor

ZogZerg : 11/18/2021 2:59 pm
Haskins is impressing the Steeler's coaches as much as he did the redskin's coaches.

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NFL Network’s Aditi Kinkhabwala doubled down on her reporting on Steelers QB Dwayne Haskins’ lazy warmups from Sunday after facing some blowback.

The NFL insider tweeted on Monday that Haskins — who entered Sunday’s Lions game as the backup to Mason Rudolph with Ben Roethlisberger on the COVID-19/reserve list — spent the warmup period “throwing lousy passes and checking his phone,” leading to derision from his coaches.




Reporter doubles down on ‘lousy’ Dwayne Haskins warmup report - ( New Window )
that's one of those scenarios  
UConn4523 : 11/18/2021 3:09 pm : link
where you send him home immediately and cut him. Yeah you only have 1 QB but the message you can send by sending Haskins packing would be enormous.

What a bum.
May Dan Snyder  
Spiciest Memelord : 11/18/2021 3:15 pm : link
live a long life as the owner of the Skins.
Say what you want about Jones,  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/18/2021 3:16 pm : link
but at least we didn't draft this walking disaster. Woof.
RE: Say what you want about Jones,  
jvm52106 : 11/18/2021 3:19 pm : link
In comment 15457606 Dave in Hoboken said:
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but at least we didn't draft this walking disaster. Woof.


Agreed and what bothers me the most here is how the Giants were labeled racist or at least "old thinking" because they didn't draft Haskins, a black Quaterback. But Haskins has done everything possible to show he is a lazy, entitled, brat who has no interest in working for his job and instead just expected to be handed to him and still Bucky Brooks tries to defend his behavior- literally questioning on the on filed reporter about what she observed.
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Go Terps : 11/18/2021 3:21 pm : link
The only guy I can ever recall being winded at his own scripted pro day. Just a walking red flag.
Todd McShay  
cjac : 11/18/2021 3:22 pm : link
had a higher grade on Ryan Finley than he did on Daniel Jones....
What a disaster  
Br00klyn : 11/18/2021 3:22 pm : link
This guy's NFL career is nearing the end
Sure  
Toth029 : 11/18/2021 3:23 pm : link
Louis Riddick would've been ok with this.
Haskins is an odd case.  
81_Great_Dane : 11/18/2021 3:26 pm : link
I don't think he really wants to be a professional athlete. He seems to lack the motivation and the focus to even compete, never mind excel or lead.

Which is fine, really. Not everyone is cut out for the life of an elite athlete. It's just weird that a guy who doesn't seem to want to do this ended up as a first round pick and, however briefly, a starting quarterback in the NFL. And that there were people insisting that the Giants were racist for not selecting him.

Also, if he's not committed to this football thing, he should give it up entirely and stop stealing a paycheck. No worries, Dwayne, go with God, but go.
RE: Sure  
Go Terps : 11/18/2021 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15457614 Toth029 said:
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Louis Riddick would've been ok with this.


Yeah that alone would keep me from hiring him as the GM. I can't believe someone with connections in the league and in college football would draft this guy in any round.

The people running these billion dollar corporations aren't as smart or as connected as they should be.
...  
ryanmkeane : 11/18/2021 3:27 pm : link
called it the moment he charged people money to go to his draft watching party
The league done messed up.  
DonQuixote : 11/18/2021 3:33 pm : link
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Fun reminder  
Go Terps : 11/18/2021 3:35 pm : link
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Ohio State Pro Day - ( New Window )
If you can't find the motivation to do what it takes  
Mad Mike : 11/18/2021 3:42 pm : link
to be a *backup* qb....
He's a zero  
JonC : 11/18/2021 3:44 pm : link
Wonder what his play will be when his contract is about to expire.
RE: RE: Sure  
Mike in NY : 11/18/2021 3:45 pm : link
In comment 15457617 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15457614 Toth029 said:


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Louis Riddick would've been ok with this.



Yeah that alone would keep me from hiring him as the GM. I can't believe someone with connections in the league and in college football would draft this guy in any round.

The people running these billion dollar corporations aren't as smart or as connected as they should be.


I would not say that alone would keep me from hiring him as a GM, but the reasons why he liked Haskins concern me. Riddick has no clue about how you build a team. His philosophy seems to be you take the 53 guys with the most raw potential/physical tools and work out the fit later. That does not work in the NFL. You can't have a bruiser RB behind a line of elite pass blockers who get blown up against the run as an example.
This video is also hilarious  
Go Terps : 11/18/2021 3:49 pm : link
It's basically an instruction manual for what not to do for someone in Haskins's position at the time. Boasting in front of a huge crowd of sycophants...oof. If you're a WFT seeing this video a couple weeks after he's picked you know you're fucked.
"I'm gonna get 7 Super Bowl rings." - ( New Window )
Let's face it...  
bw in dc : 11/18/2021 3:49 pm : link
Haskins is reincarnation of JeMarcus Russell.
*a WFT fan  
Go Terps : 11/18/2021 3:49 pm : link
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RE: Fun reminder  
christian : 11/18/2021 3:49 pm : link
In comment 15457623 Go Terps said:
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. Ohio State Pro Day - ( New Window )


A good half dozen people owe BW a beer based on that thread.
A lot of blithering idiots on ESPN and NFL Network  
Spiciest Memelord : 11/18/2021 3:51 pm : link
who can't even string together a coherent argument or analysis. If I were keenly interested in hiring someone from the media for some reason, at least hire someone smart and observant, like Cossell, Jeremiah, Charles Davis, Baldy, Carl Banks... I guess the model is Mayock who has been somewhat successful with the Raiders.
RE: RE: Fun reminder  
Thegratefulhead : 11/18/2021 3:53 pm : link
In comment 15457639 christian said:
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In comment 15457623 Go Terps said:


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. Ohio State Pro Day - ( New Window )



A good half dozen people owe BW a beer based on that thread.
Yep
RE: Sure  
bw in dc : 11/18/2021 3:56 pm : link
In comment 15457614 Toth029 said:
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Louis Riddick would've been ok with this.


I'm sure how I view Riddick after that. But I understand posters holding it against him - to a degree.

Last week, I read something here, during one of the next GM debates, that Mara was very impressed with Riddick during the fake GM search in 2017. And if Gettleman is shown the exit signs, Riddick could be back in the mix...
He reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes.  
81_Great_Dane : 11/18/2021 3:57 pm : link
Grandiose dreams and proclamations, but wanted the fame and recognition before putting in the time and effort for actual, you know, accomplishment.

Holmes managed to con people into thinking she'd already done something when she hadn't, at least for a while. She got away with it until she didn't. In sports, everyone can see if you're doing it or not. So Haskins couldn't get away with anything.
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Go Terps : 11/18/2021 3:58 pm : link
In a way I almost feel badly for Haskins in that video. Someone has to get in these kids' ears and tell them "The expression 'Don't forget where you came from' is a way for losers to take advantage of people that actually achieve something."
Way too harsh people. Maybe Haskins was  
Jimmy Googs : 11/18/2021 4:01 pm : link
expecting an important text, ok?
RE: Let's face it...  
Toth029 : 11/18/2021 4:01 pm : link
In comment 15457637 bw in dc said:
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Haskins is reincarnation of JeMarcus Russell.


A bjt of Johnny Manziel. Guys over-projected due to the supporting cast in school. Extremely immature and doesn't try to completely buy in to coaching and developing. He isn't long for the league at this rate.
RE: RE: Sure  
Go Terps : 11/18/2021 4:03 pm : link
In comment 15457648 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15457614 Toth029 said:


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Louis Riddick would've been ok with this.



I'm sure how I view Riddick after that. But I understand posters holding it against him - to a degree.

Last week, I read something here, during one of the next GM debates, that Mara was very impressed with Riddick during the fake GM search in 2017. And if Gettleman is shown the exit signs, Riddick could be back in the mix...


Riddick being good with drafting this mope at #6 is a disqualifier. It's one thing to miss on talent - that can and has happened to everyone.

A good GM should only need 5 minutes of conversation with Haskins to know he wants no part of him in any round. To have all the resources a GM has: the scouts, the connections in NFL and NCAA, the behind the scenes guys that know where the bodies are buried...to have all that and still draft Haskins is inexplicable and unacceptable.
RE: What a disaster  
rsjem1979 : 11/18/2021 4:08 pm : link
In comment 15457613 Br00klyn said:
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This guy's NFL career is nearing the end


Yeah, he's done.

He's been with the Steelers since January and he's behind Mason Rudolph on the depth chart, and Rudolph stinks.
Johnny Manziel  
Les in TO : 11/18/2021 4:09 pm : link
Ryan Leaf
Jemarcus Russell
Matt Leinart
Dwayne Haskins

It’s amazing how many teams have overemphasized arm strength over intangibles.
RE: Haskins is an odd case.  
Gman11 : 11/18/2021 4:12 pm : link
In comment 15457616 81_Great_Dane said:
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Also, if he's not committed to this football thing, he should give it up entirely and stop stealing a paycheck. No worries, Dwayne, go with God, but go.


Come on man. If you were being paid a couple of million dollars would you walk away to a life as a burger flipper or would you milk it for everything you can get out of it?
RE: May Dan Snyder  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/18/2021 4:12 pm : link
In comment 15457604 Spiciest Memelord said:
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live a long life as the owner of the Skins.


Yeah laugh. Cuz the Mara's are such great owners when it comes to hiring good personnel people lol.
RE: RE: RE: Sure  
bw in dc : 11/18/2021 4:13 pm : link
In comment 15457658 Go Terps said:
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Riddick being good with drafting this mope at #6 is a disqualifier. It's one thing to miss on talent - that can and has happened to everyone.

A good GM should only need 5 minutes of conversation with Haskins to know he wants no part of him in any round. To have all the resources a GM has: the scouts, the connections in NFL and NCAA, the behind the scenes guys that know where the bodies are buried...to have all that and still draft Haskins is inexplicable and unacceptable.


I get it. I really don't know how deep Riddick dug on Haskins. It's one thing to be an analyst and possibly felling compelled to go along with the mainstream, especially a ES"PC"N.

It's another thing to be on a clock as a GM with real pressure on the line. I would imagine that's a much different dynamic.

Look, I'm not a Riddick guy anyway, so I have no dog in the fight. Just trying to be measured.

Meanwhile, we have a daft GM who drafted a Duke QB because he fell in "full bloom love" with our franchise QB based on practice session at a Senior Bowl. So...

RE: Johnny Manziel  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/18/2021 4:15 pm : link
In comment 15457661 Les in TO said:
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Ryan Leaf
Jemarcus Russell
Matt Leinart
Dwayne Haskins

It’s amazing how many teams have overemphasized arm strength over intangibles.


Neither Leinhart or Hawkins were known for their arms. Big program guys yes. Shotgun arms no way
RE: RE: Haskins is an odd case.  
rsjem1979 : 11/18/2021 4:22 pm : link
In comment 15457665 Gman11 said:
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Also, if he's not committed to this football thing, he should give it up entirely and stop stealing a paycheck. No worries, Dwayne, go with God, but go.



Come on man. If you were being paid a couple of million dollars would you walk away to a life as a burger flipper or would you milk it for everything you can get out of it?


I'm not even going to bother trying to figure out Dwayne Haskins, but there isn't a single person on this planet who wouldn't take $15 million even if it meant being a draft "bust".

Honestly, good for him for making life-changing money. I would never have wanted him as my QB, but football isn't life.
RE: RE: RE: Sure  
Spiciest Memelord : 11/18/2021 4:28 pm : link
In comment 15457658 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15457648 bw in dc said:


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In comment 15457614 Toth029 said:


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Louis Riddick would've been ok with this.



I'm sure how I view Riddick after that. But I understand posters holding it against him - to a degree.

Last week, I read something here, during one of the next GM debates, that Mara was very impressed with Riddick during the fake GM search in 2017. And if Gettleman is shown the exit signs, Riddick could be back in the mix...



Riddick being good with drafting this mope at #6 is a disqualifier. It's one thing to miss on talent - that can and has happened to everyone.

A good GM should only need 5 minutes of conversation with Haskins to know he wants no part of him in any round. To have all the resources a GM has: the scouts, the connections in NFL and NCAA, the behind the scenes guys that know where the bodies are buried...to have all that and still draft Haskins is inexplicable and unacceptable.

Ridick is what he is, a know nothing who pulls facts from his ass.

As mentioned if you want someone from the media to be in the office, I would suggest someone like Cossell, who is a grinder and watches film and knows some things, if you want to follow the 'successful' models of Lynch and Mayock. Of course bbi will have a meltdown that he's so old!
RE: RE: RE: Fun reminder  
Section331 : 11/18/2021 4:30 pm : link
In comment 15457643 Thegratefulhead said:
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In comment 15457623 Go Terps said:


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. Ohio State Pro Day - ( New Window )



A good half dozen people owe BW a beer based on that thread.

Yep


Have you paid up yet? ;-)
RE: RE: May Dan Snyder  
joeinpa : 11/18/2021 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15457666 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 15457604 Spiciest Memelord said:


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live a long life as the owner of the Skins.



Yeah laugh. Cuz the Mara's are such great owners when it comes to hiring good personnel people lol.


Are you suggesting the Mara ‘s ownership reign has been as dismal as Snyder s?

RE: .  
christian : 11/18/2021 4:34 pm : link
In comment 15457653 Go Terps said:
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In a way I almost feel badly for Haskins in that video. Someone has to get in these kids' ears and tell them "The expression 'Don't forget where you came from' is a way for losers to take advantage of people that actually achieve something."


Where Haskins cam from is apparently pretty weird. That Dunleavy article before the draft blew my mind.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Fun reminder  
Thegratefulhead : 11/18/2021 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15457681 Section331 said:
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In comment 15457643 Thegratefulhead said:


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In comment 15457639 christian said:


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In comment 15457623 Go Terps said:


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. Ohio State Pro Day - ( New Window )



A good half dozen people owe BW a beer based on that thread.

Yep



Have you paid up yet? ;-)
Look, your role has morphed into a mouthpiece for Jints Central. I get it - you have a business to run and can't bite the hand that feeds you... ;)

I thought that comment was unfair because Eric criticizes the Giants routinely in his previews.

I remember being on Rosen that year as was BW. I was interested in Haskins during the college season but backed off by the time of the draft for the things BW talks about in that thread. I actually change my mind when presented with new information.

But yes, if I could, I would definitely drink a beer with BW and would gladly buy for a chance to talk sports with him for a few hours at a bar. Smart guy, that I do not always agree with but often do.
I've said this before  
arniefez : 11/18/2021 4:55 pm : link
I don't envy scouts and GMs trying to evaluate players on the professional minor league teams when they play almost all of their games against players who won't be in the NFL.

I don't care what color Haskins is. I wanted no part of him for the Giants because he had such limited college experience and what he did have was basically playing for an all star team vs the Washington Generals every week. He was never under pressure from the defense. He basically was running a 7 on 7 drill against a defense that wouldn't make 3rd string on his team. He never had to deal with any on field adversity at all.

When I started reading some of the articles about his strange background it was the final nail. I wonder where he would have wound up if it wasn't for Snyder. The Mara's in public going back to Wellington have been extremely conservative socially but for a decade they had one of the very few African American GMs in the NFL. I don't think the color of Haskin's skin had anything to do with why they wanted no part of him. The last guy with some character red flags they drafted from OSU didn't work out too well. That was Eli Apple.
Now. Suppose Hankins  
Grizz99 : 11/18/2021 5:19 pm : link
(It's a crap shoot both ways) had made it.

Then the Mara's ARE racist.

subsequent events change events that preceded. It's quantum-like.
Except how do you explain the Giants  
arniefez : 11/18/2021 5:32 pm : link
employing Jerry Reese for a decade? Or Ronnie Barnes for 4 decades? To name two of their long time high ranking employees. Conservative? Yes. Stuck in the past? Yes. Racist? I don't think so.
He’s in the perfect job  
Dave in PA : 11/18/2021 5:41 pm : link
Backup QB with low expectations but still able to hang around the league on the premise of untapped potential. All he has to do is feign caring and he can make a relative fortune doing nothing but holding a clipboard and watching game film.
RE: Haskins is an odd case.  
GoDeep13 : 11/18/2021 8:33 pm : link
In comment 15457616 81_Great_Dane said:
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I don't think he really wants to be a professional athlete. He seems to lack the motivation and the focus to even compete, never mind excel or lead.

Which is fine, really. Not everyone is cut out for the life of an elite athlete. It's just weird that a guy who doesn't seem to want to do this ended up as a first round pick and, however briefly, a starting quarterback in the NFL. And that there were people insisting that the Giants were racist for not selecting him.

Also, if he's not committed to this football thing, he should give it up entirely and stop stealing a paycheck. No worries, Dwayne, go with God, but go.
Bis dream was to play for Ohio St. he did that and holds all their single season and single game passing records. He became content.
RE: RE: Say what you want about Jones,  
N9NE11 : 11/18/2021 9:41 pm : link
In comment 15457610 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 15457606 Dave in Hoboken said:


Quote:serious question for you..do think the Giants ever draft a black QB..I love my Giants but deep down I don't think they ever would.


but at least we didn't draft this walking disaster. Woof.



Agreed and what bothers me the most here is how the Giants were labeled racist or at least "old thinking" because they didn't draft Haskins, a black Quaterback. But Haskins has done everything possible to show he is a lazy, entitled, brat who has no interest in working for his job and instead just expected to be handed to him and still Bucky Brooks tries to defend his behavior- literally questioning on the on filed reporter about what she observed.
RE: Now. Suppose Hankins  
j_rud : 11/18/2021 9:42 pm : link
In comment 15457715 Grizz99 said:
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(It's a crap shoot both ways) had made it.

Then the Mara's ARE racist.

subsequent events change events that preceded. It's quantum-like.


Except it's not?
RE: ...  
Chocco : 11/18/2021 9:51 pm : link
In comment 15457618 ryanmkeane said:
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called it the moment he charged people money to go to his draft watching party

Yep
RE: Sure  
FStubbs : 11/18/2021 10:35 pm : link
In comment 15457614 Toth029 said:
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Louis Riddick would've been ok with this.


Louis Riddick the GM would've actually worked him out and interviewed him and come to the same conclusion as 31 other front offices that he wasn't a first round pick.
Though I'm trying to figure out ...  
FStubbs : 11/18/2021 10:37 pm : link
.... what moron thought Haskins was a better QB than Burrow at Ohio State.


.... oh.
The funny part  
Matt M. : 11/19/2021 8:33 am : link
is, no matter what Jones does this week or beyond, his 2nd contract (and he will get one from someone) will be FAR more lucrative than Haskins', where a 2nd deal may not even happen.
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