I say it was. I was too young for '89 vs. Rams & while we've had a bunch of terrible regular season-'10 vs. Eagles comes to mind-those were regular season losses. Also, I wasn't born yet for The Fumble.
They were clearly outmatched in that game, but 60 minutes from a Lombardi trophy. Those opportunities don’t come often. Kerry Collins didn’t even give them a chance, he played scared.
Game didn’t end up close, but that bogus defensive holding call when we had the TO late in the 1st half turned that game.
I’ve never been as irrationally angry after a loss
As I was after 03 disaster in SF. The helpless feeling as Jeff Garcia carved them up in the 4th quarter only to have that huge relief of a very reliable kicker in Bryant and a gimme FG to win it and move on. Just so shitty. Maybe for other older fans it wasn’t the worst, but I was a 1 year old when they won in 86 and still way too young to care about anything other than ninja turtles when they won in 90, so this was the first promising playoff run I was fully in tune to and it just sucked so bad. I also remember pretty vividly being upset when Chris Calloway screwed up the onside kick in 97, but not like how it felt in 03.
Worst Loss is like picking your favorite Beatles song
is that, as painful as it was at the time, it actually opened the door for what came next. It was effectively the last game of the Fassel regime. He kept his job for another season, but his team never recovered. And if we had one that game, he probably survives the following season and we don't get Coughlin or Eli.
The Ravens Super Bowl is probably the only game I've ever watched in 30 years of fandom where I turned it off well before the end. I just couldn't sit through it.
I made the mistake of watching that 49er playoff with my then girlfriend at the time. Suffice to say, as the 49er comeback was happening, I did not take it particularly well and lost my shit for about an hour straight in a way I had never lost my shit before, or since.
Pretty sure she never looked at me the same after that game. Dumb mistake on my part to combine a Giants playoff game with spending 'quality time' my significant other. I should've known better.
I will still go with the 1978 Fumble Miracle at the Meadowlands.
More recent the 2010 loss to the Eagles was devastating.
My buddy and me where at my house and didn't talk for an hour after that one!
1989 Rams loss, while tough wasn't horrible.
The losses when your team just blows it are the most difficult.
Im just happy we have those SB's to offset these types of defeats.
The game we lost our long snapper and we were up big. Strahan and Terrell Owens were jawing at each other and we ended up losing the lead and the game.
02 team because Shockey was my favorite player (at the time) the Giants ever had other than LT. It was such a magical rookie year. Still temember him catching that fade over Dawkins.
Because that team had the best chance to win it all since I had been watching (since 90). Even without Burress the 08 Giants were going to be a tough team to beat for most of the playoff teams, although the loss of Burress to me was the most significant reason the Giants lost to the eagles in the divisional round. Burress certainly was not the only reason they exited the playoffs early (usually there are multiple reasons why anything happens), but perhaps the biggest.
about the SF loss, because it had no business happening. The Giants played beautifully and then stopped too soon, the classic mistake of thinking the win was in the bag. The entire thing perfectly represented visually by Shockey's TV spot on the missed field goal.
But, the 2008 loss is the one that bugs me more now, because that Giants team had a better shot at winning the Super Bowl than the 2002 Giants. Fat chance the 2002 Giants were going to beat the Bucs in Tampa the following field, their defense was a buzzsaw. But, the 2008 Giants would've been the favorite had they not stumbled against the Eagles.
I kind of think the narrative that Plax's absence directly attributed
If you ask me, 2008 had more to do with Coughlin/Eli's bugaboo against the Eagles. They had no problem running the Panthers out of Giants Stadium for the #1 seed. I don't really count the Minnesota game as they didn't really try to win it.
the SF game will always be my #1...BUT
How about the collection of losses to the Eagles, which is the worse?
1.) The miracle in the Meadowlands
2.) The Brian Westbrook punt return game
3.) The Desean Jackson punt return game
4.) The 2008 playoff game
5.) Jake Elliott 61 yard FG
Which brings me to my next point...F the Eagles forever.
To blow a huge lead, against the damned Niners, and lose on a botched snap and subsequent botched call......rough.
On the other hand, in retrospect that team was unlikely to go much further in the playoffs. For that reason, I say the Flipper Anderson game was the worst.
'03 game is the worst for me. It even eclipsed 'the Fumble', because the Giants had that game in the bag. The two things that really bothered me more than Trey Junkin (the Giants never should have been in that situation), were the Shockey drop and Strahan expending more energy pointing at the scoreboard than playing defense. I really wanted Collins to get back to the SB and this loss proved to be the closest he ever got as a Giant...
Was the worst. Unlike the losses to the Packers and Colts in the prior 5 years, the Giants were clearly the better team. But Tittle got hurt and had a terrible game.
a joy to watch his rookie year. Especially for a team starved of offensive weapons over the past decade.
One thing to add about Kerry Collins. The difference between the Brown\Kanell\Graham lead offenses and a Kerry Collins lead offense was immense. Collins showed the value of being able to make all of the throws, which took the Giants to a new level.
Then the Giants transition to Manning, a quarterback who could make all of the throws (although nowhere near the arm of Collins), but also had the mind to go with it.
They were clearly outmatched in that game, but 60 minutes from a Lombardi trophy. Those opportunities don’t come often. Kerry Collins didn’t even give them a chance, he played scared.
Collins separated his throwing shoulder in that game. It was hardly reported at the time, and Collins took the trashing without making excuses.
His teammates respected him a lot, especially Strahan.
I always really like Kerry Collins, this makes me like him even more.
In terms of ROI, he might be the greatest FA signing in NYG history.
He brought them out of the mid-90s offensive/QB nightmare with a fun, wide open passing game that brought them to and won some big games.
Watching Flipper score and then disappear into the tunnel tore my heart out. Regular season? For me was the loss to the Jets in the season finale in 88 which pretty much knocked them out of the playoffs. If they had won that game, they would have clinched the NFC East. INstead, they had to rely on the 49ers to beat the Rams that night to get in and of course, the Rams destroyed them that night to seal our fate
The October 2001 15-14 loss to the Greatest Show on Turf sticks out.
True that it was an early regular season game without "playoff implications" so to speak but from a pure competitive standpoint that was one of those games where you had a historically great team on the ropes and couldn't close out.
I was a little young for LT's dominance but this game by Strahan sticks out as the most dominant defensive performance by a NYG player that I've fully witnessed. I was crushed when we lost that game. Fucking Grant Wistrom.
Fred Robbins breaking BOTH of his hands in '08 was big too
Big Fred was the most underrated played on that team. He was really, really good, and tough as hell for playing through it, but that rendered him fairly ineffective.
RE: Fred Robbins breaking BOTH of his hands in '08 was big too
Big Fred was the most underrated played on that team. He was really, really good, and tough as hell for playing through it, but that rendered him fairly ineffective.
You and Terps have such great memories for this stuff.
I loved Robbins. One of my favorite players. I miss actually liking players on the Giants.
because Plax shot himself, although that's a convienant excuse.
The defensive line was running on fumes because they didn't have the depth they did in 2007. Osi was out of the year in the preseason and that killed the Giants down the stretch.
They lost because they threw the ball 29 times when they were running the ball successfully with Jacobs and Ward.
The wildcard game vs SF mentioned would be my #1.
The "don't punt it to Desean Jackson" would be my #2.
The loss to the WTF's this year would be my #3.
I say "would" because I try to eradicate terrible losses from my mind and there may have been worse losses that I have successfully forgotten.
RE: Fred Robbins breaking BOTH of his hands in '08 was big too
Big Fred was the most underrated played on that team. He was really, really good, and tough as hell for playing through it, but that rendered him fairly ineffective.
I remember his knees being more of an issue than anything else. He had microfracture surgery after 2008.
Up 38-14 in the third Q and San Fran rattles off 25 pts to win. Ugh. Giants lose WC to Niners - ( New Window )
They rattled off 25 points, but we actually did win - except for the refs sabotaging our last minute save. Though by getting to that point in the first place, we deserved to lose.
I’ve become borderline obsessed with that ‘08 loss.
Things that stand out to me, that have been lost over the years:
- Bradshaw retired the opening kick to like the 30, the Giants got in the redzone, but then settled for a field goal
- Manning had a terrible pick that was returned to the goal line, on a throw where he was fading back and threw into double coverage way over Hixon
- Carney was 5/7 that year on kicks 40-49 yards, but missed 2 that day
- On 4th and short Giants went to QB sneak instead of handing the ball to Brandon Jacobs
Manning was really bad that day and Coughlin did the team no favors resting against Minnesota and having 3 weeks between meaningful games.
I’ve become borderline obsessed with that ‘08 loss.
Things that stand out to me, that have been lost over the years:
- Bradshaw retired the opening kick to like the 30, the Giants got in the redzone, but then settled for a field goal
- Manning had a terrible pick that was returned to the goal line, on a throw where he was fading back and threw into double coverage way over Hixon
- Carney was 5/7 that year on kicks 40-49 yards, but missed 2 that day
- On 4th and short Giants went to QB sneak instead of handing the ball to Brandon Jacobs
Manning was really bad that day and Coughlin did the team no favors resting against Minnesota and having 3 weeks between meaningful games.
Eh, to your last point. He played the starters in the first half and rested them in the 2nd half and they still almost beat the Vikings who then lost to the Eagles the next week.
RE: RE: Jesus. I totally forgot this goddamned game
Up 38-14 in the third Q and San Fran rattles off 25 pts to win. Ugh. Giants lose WC to Niners - ( New Window )
They rattled off 25 points, but we actually did win - except for the refs sabotaging our last minute save. Though by getting to that point in the first place, we deserved to lose.
The Giants still would have needed to successfully execute a FG attempt, which was no guarantee at that point.
I don't remember too many specifics from that '08 loss
They were indeed leading at the time, 11-10 (what an odd score). It was 3rd and 20 from the Eagles 15. Eagles ended up kicking a FG to take a 13-11 lead.
I had forgotten that they were stuffed on 4th and 1 and 4th and 2 on consecutive drives in the 4th.
Eh, to your last point. He played the starters in the first half and rested them in the 2nd half and they still almost beat the Vikings who then lost to the Eagles the next week.
The passing game was getting stale the last quarter of the year (what impact missing a subpar Burress had on it is another question).
I didn’t see the value of getting David Carr reps in the Vikings game, when Manning was having a bad stretch.
The October 2001 15-14 loss to the Greatest Show on Turf sticks out.
True that it was an early regular season game without "playoff implications" so to speak but from a pure competitive standpoint that was one of those games where you had a historically great team on the ropes and couldn't close out.
I was a little young for LT's dominance but this game by Strahan sticks out as the most dominant defensive performance by a NYG player that I've fully witnessed. I was crushed when we lost that game. Fucking Grant Wistrom.
Giants were driving for the winning FG, but Jurevicius effed up.
Game didn’t end up close, but that bogus defensive holding call when we had the TO late in the 1st half turned that game.
Vikes ‘97
Jackson PR
Boys score in 11 seconds to win in OT
Countless last play FGs (Boys especially painful)
The Ravens Super Bowl is probably the only game I've ever watched in 30 years of fandom where I turned it off well before the end. I just couldn't sit through it.
Pretty sure she never looked at me the same after that game. Dumb mistake on my part to combine a Giants playoff game with spending 'quality time' my significant other. I should've known better.
the Fumble the most shocking
More recent the 2010 loss to the Eagles was devastating.
My buddy and me where at my house and didn't talk for an hour after that one!
1989 Rams loss, while tough wasn't horrible.
The losses when your team just blows it are the most difficult.
Im just happy we have those SB's to offset these types of defeats.
But, the 2008 loss is the one that bugs me more now, because that Giants team had a better shot at winning the Super Bowl than the 2002 Giants. Fat chance the 2002 Giants were going to beat the Bucs in Tampa the following field, their defense was a buzzsaw. But, the 2008 Giants would've been the favorite had they not stumbled against the Eagles.
If you ask me, 2008 had more to do with Coughlin/Eli's bugaboo against the Eagles. They had no problem running the Panthers out of Giants Stadium for the #1 seed. I don't really count the Minnesota game as they didn't really try to win it.
How about the collection of losses to the Eagles, which is the worse?
1.) The miracle in the Meadowlands
2.) The Brian Westbrook punt return game
3.) The Desean Jackson punt return game
4.) The 2008 playoff game
5.) Jake Elliott 61 yard FG
Which brings me to my next point...F the Eagles forever.
On the other hand, in retrospect that team was unlikely to go much further in the playoffs. For that reason, I say the Flipper Anderson game was the worst.
One thing to add about Kerry Collins. The difference between the Brown\Kanell\Graham lead offenses and a Kerry Collins lead offense was immense. Collins showed the value of being able to make all of the throws, which took the Giants to a new level.
Then the Giants transition to Manning, a quarterback who could make all of the throws (although nowhere near the arm of Collins), but also had the mind to go with it.
Ugh - I totally forgot about that game...
I HATE the Eagles so much.
That team was clearly running out of steam, and much of it had to do with the injuries piling up on defense.
You could see the warning signs before that game. And it wasn't all on Burress.
*Tiki was arguably the best offensive player in the NFL.
*A WR trio of Toomer - Hilliard - Ron Dixon.
*Shockey and Dan Campbell at TE.
*Solid if unspectacular OLine getting a career year out of LT Luke Petitgout.
*Offensive Coordinator Sean Payton.
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That was as good an offense as the Giants have ever had IMO. They could really light it up, and oftentimes did.
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They were clearly outmatched in that game, but 60 minutes from a Lombardi trophy. Those opportunities don’t come often. Kerry Collins didn’t even give them a chance, he played scared.
Collins separated his throwing shoulder in that game. It was hardly reported at the time, and Collins took the trashing without making excuses.
His teammates respected him a lot, especially Strahan.
I always really like Kerry Collins, this makes me like him even more.
In terms of ROI, he might be the greatest FA signing in NYG history.
He brought them out of the mid-90s offensive/QB nightmare with a fun, wide open passing game that brought them to and won some big games.
Giants lose WC to Niners - ( New Window )
I think the D lost too much steam towards the end of the year.
True that it was an early regular season game without "playoff implications" so to speak but from a pure competitive standpoint that was one of those games where you had a historically great team on the ropes and couldn't close out.
I was a little young for LT's dominance but this game by Strahan sticks out as the most dominant defensive performance by a NYG player that I've fully witnessed. I was crushed when we lost that game. Fucking Grant Wistrom.
You and Terps have such great memories for this stuff.
I loved Robbins. One of my favorite players. I miss actually liking players on the Giants.
The defensive line was running on fumes because they didn't have the depth they did in 2007. Osi was out of the year in the preseason and that killed the Giants down the stretch.
They lost because they threw the ball 29 times when they were running the ball successfully with Jacobs and Ward.
The "don't punt it to Desean Jackson" would be my #2.
The loss to the WTF's this year would be my #3.
I say "would" because I try to eradicate terrible losses from my mind and there may have been worse losses that I have successfully forgotten.
I remember his knees being more of an issue than anything else. He had microfracture surgery after 2008.
They rattled off 25 points, but we actually did win - except for the refs sabotaging our last minute save. Though by getting to that point in the first place, we deserved to lose.
Things that stand out to me, that have been lost over the years:
- Bradshaw retired the opening kick to like the 30, the Giants got in the redzone, but then settled for a field goal
- Manning had a terrible pick that was returned to the goal line, on a throw where he was fading back and threw into double coverage way over Hixon
- Carney was 5/7 that year on kicks 40-49 yards, but missed 2 that day
- On 4th and short Giants went to QB sneak instead of handing the ball to Brandon Jacobs
Manning was really bad that day and Coughlin did the team no favors resting against Minnesota and having 3 weeks between meaningful games.
Things that stand out to me, that have been lost over the years:
- Bradshaw retired the opening kick to like the 30, the Giants got in the redzone, but then settled for a field goal
- Manning had a terrible pick that was returned to the goal line, on a throw where he was fading back and threw into double coverage way over Hixon
- Carney was 5/7 that year on kicks 40-49 yards, but missed 2 that day
- On 4th and short Giants went to QB sneak instead of handing the ball to Brandon Jacobs
Manning was really bad that day and Coughlin did the team no favors resting against Minnesota and having 3 weeks between meaningful games.
Eh, to your last point. He played the starters in the first half and rested them in the 2nd half and they still almost beat the Vikings who then lost to the Eagles the next week.
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Up 38-14 in the third Q and San Fran rattles off 25 pts to win. Ugh. Giants lose WC to Niners - ( New Window )
They rattled off 25 points, but we actually did win - except for the refs sabotaging our last minute save. Though by getting to that point in the first place, we deserved to lose.
The Giants still would have needed to successfully execute a FG attempt, which was no guarantee at that point.
I think we were winning at the time.
Yup. Which was near the Eagles goal line. SMH.
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But the 3rd and 25 sticks out in my mind. I still can't believe that happened.
I think we were winning at the time.
Reporting both these posts to Eric. :(
I had forgotten that they were stuffed on 4th and 1 and 4th and 2 on consecutive drives in the 4th.
The passing game was getting stale the last quarter of the year (what impact missing a subpar Burress had on it is another question).
I didn’t see the value of getting David Carr reps in the Vikings game, when Manning was having a bad stretch.
True that it was an early regular season game without "playoff implications" so to speak but from a pure competitive standpoint that was one of those games where you had a historically great team on the ropes and couldn't close out.
I was a little young for LT's dominance but this game by Strahan sticks out as the most dominant defensive performance by a NYG player that I've fully witnessed. I was crushed when we lost that game. Fucking Grant Wistrom.
Giants were driving for the winning FG, but Jurevicius effed up.