responsible for the mess of this offense, in order, it goes:
1. Gettleman
2. Jones
3. The OL
4. Garrett AND Judge
No need to outline why that order is the way it is - most clear minded posters should be able to agree on this - but I accept that Garrett will be the ultimate fall guy for items 1,2 and 3.
Just like McAdoo and Reese were the falls guys for Mara's mishandling of Eli in GenoGate.
What a bias spin, based as always on claiming Fact as opinion.
Anyone who doesn't have "injuries on that list is a yowling nihilist, so controlled by a personal agenda ... up is down as the agenda commands.
Scot L , Thomas, Gates, Looney, Harrison, Bredson, and Peart compromised.
According to this poster had nothing to do with it.
Let me ask you a question - how are the Ravens, with all of their massive injuries on offense (all three starting RBs, all pro LT, excellent TE (Boyle)), still close to the top ten in the NFL in PPG?
And let's not act like they have a legit #1 WR on the team, either.
OFC Jackson is better than Jones. SO if a QB isn't as good as Jackson, the 2019 MVP, he sucks? But your comments are very misleading anyway - as usual.
The Ny Giants have the 31st OL rating yet again for 2 straight years while Baltimore ths year has the 13th according to PFF.
Should we go on?
The Ravens have better coaching.
Should we go on?
The Ravens Tight End Mark Andrews much better than any of the Giants Tight Ends.
Should we go on?
Thats exactly what he is pointing to.. Jones isn't as good as Jackson. We have a worse GM, worse coach. its not just injuries.. infact the difference between us and Ravens is exactly as he listed.. GM, QB, Coach, the OL..
But injuries are a factor. And using Baltimore in teh manner he did, is like using every other team in the NFL that has a better record anyway. Batimores injuries and their record has no correlation to the Giants.
The Giants would've sucked injury or not.
HE specifically said injuries to Batlimore did not affect them in the manner it did the Giants implying it was an excuse by anyone that defends Jones vs what Baltimore is experiencing wiht injuries too.
That's not the same as you're suggesting. Comparing Baltimore- a much superior team vs the Giants in dealing with injuries has no valid correlation.
automatically think Judge thinks less of or doesn't want Jones as his QB when he's done nothing but praise him and say over and over again that he's the guy.
Because TWerps thinks he is smarter than any NFL GM. I am sure he will interviewing for a job next year, after showing just how much smarter he is than all other GMs here on this board.
automatically think Judge thinks less of or doesn't want Jones as his QB when he's done nothing but praise him and say over and over again that he's the guy.
Because TWerps thinks he is smarter than any NFL GM. I am sure he will interviewing for a job next year, after showing just how much sm
arter he is than all other GMs here on this board.
Right because this ends when ajones boosts be Lombardi over his head . That is a verbatim quote from a clown. Same with the others who when I joined here was saying a six win team is winning min ten games this year. Three down only running the table left to go to make ten.
Lombardi’s ?? Lombardi’s??? Can this team even win a game let alone they are not making the playoffs again.
As for jettison jones . Yea why not. Jones is normally a third round pick in a normal draft class. You really think they —-judge and Garrett— are playing this kind of football because they have all the confidence in the world w jones
automatically think Judge thinks less of or doesn't want Jones as his QB when he's done nothing but praise him and say over and over again that he's the guy.
You think if Judge felt he WASN'T the guy that he would say so out loud? It's pretty standard to publicly support the QB you have no matter what. There's nothing to be gained by being brutally honest.
automatically think Judge thinks less of or doesn't want Jones as his QB when he's done nothing but praise him and say over and over again that he's the guy.
You think if Judge felt he WASN'T the guy that he would say so out loud? It's pretty standard to publicly support the QB you have no matter what. There's nothing to be gained by being brutally honest.
Why does anyone bother with Cane's POV on credibility when he spent the better part of a decade declaring Tiki "not a feature back" and has generally, since then, only offered any semblance of opinion on players that have played for or against Miami?
Limited scope, even more limited understanding, unlimited voice.
I don't think Terps thinks he's smarter than NFL GMs
I think he thinks that most anyone could do DGs job better than him and I'd tend to agree with that.
And I think a lot of people are insecure about him being right more than most on this board and certainly our front office so you all love to whine about him and make him.
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responsible for the mess of this offense, in order, it goes:
1. Gettleman
2. Jones
3. The OL
4. Garrett AND Judge
No need to outline why that order is the way it is - most clear minded posters should be able to agree on this - but I accept that Garrett will be the ultimate fall guy for items 1,2 and 3.
Just like McAdoo and Reese were the falls guys for Mara's mishandling of Eli in GenoGate.
What a bias spin, based as always on claiming Fact as opinion.
Anyone who doesn't have "injuries on that list is a yowling nihilist, so controlled by a personal agenda ... up is down as the agenda commands.
Scot L , Thomas, Gates, Looney, Harrison, Bredson, and Peart compromised.
According to this poster had nothing to do with it.
Let me ask you a question - how are the Ravens, with all of their massive injuries on offense (all three starting RBs, all pro LT, excellent TE (Boyle)), still close to the top ten in the NFL in PPG?
And let's not act like they have a legit #1 WR on the team, either.
OFC Jackson is better than Jones. SO if a QB isn't as good as Jackson, the 2019 MVP, he sucks? But your comments are very misleading anyway - as usual.
The Ny Giants have the 31st OL rating yet again for 2 straight years while Baltimore ths year has the 13th according to PFF.
Should we go on?
The Ravens have better coaching.
Should we go on?
The Ravens Tight End Mark Andrews much better than any of the Giants Tight Ends.
Should we go on?
Thats exactly what he is pointing to.. Jones isn't as good as Jackson. We have a worse GM, worse coach. its not just injuries.. infact the difference between us and Ravens is exactly as he listed.. GM, QB, Coach, the OL..
But injuries are a factor. And using Baltimore in teh manner he did, is like using every other team in the NFL that has a better record anyway. Batimores injuries and their record has no correlation to the Giants.
The Giants would've sucked injury or not.
HE specifically said injuries to Batlimore did not affect them in the manner it did the Giants implying it was an excuse by anyone that defends Jones vs what Baltimore is experiencing wiht injuries too.
That's not the same as you're suggesting. Comparing Baltimore- a much superior team vs the Giants in dealing with injuries has no valid correlation.
BUT more than anything - Garrett is a microcosm of how the overly conservative and archaic NYG organization is run.
What's new or creative about how Garrett calls a game?
What's new or creative about how Judge runs the program from a HC perspective?
What's new or creative about how DG scouts and evaluates players?
This.
Because TWerps thinks he is smarter than any NFL GM. I am sure he will interviewing for a job next year, after showing just how much smarter he is than all other GMs here on this board.
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automatically think Judge thinks less of or doesn't want Jones as his QB when he's done nothing but praise him and say over and over again that he's the guy.
Because TWerps thinks he is smarter than any NFL GM. I am sure he will interviewing for a job next year, after showing just how much sm
arter he is than all other GMs here on this board.
Right because this ends when ajones boosts be Lombardi over his head . That is a verbatim quote from a clown. Same with the others who when I joined here was saying a six win team is winning min ten games this year. Three down only running the table left to go to make ten.
Lombardi’s ?? Lombardi’s??? Can this team even win a game let alone they are not making the playoffs again.
As for jettison jones . Yea why not. Jones is normally a third round pick in a normal draft class. You really think they —-judge and Garrett— are playing this kind of football because they have all the confidence in the world w jones
You think if Judge felt he WASN'T the guy that he would say so out loud? It's pretty standard to publicly support the QB you have no matter what. There's nothing to be gained by being brutally honest.
I hope next year we can draft two stud OL guys in round one and just end this never ending struggle.
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automatically think Judge thinks less of or doesn't want Jones as his QB when he's done nothing but praise him and say over and over again that he's the guy.
You think if Judge felt he WASN'T the guy that he would say so out loud? It's pretty standard to publicly support the QB you have no matter what. There's nothing to be gained by being brutally honest.
Why does anyone bother with Cane's POV on credibility when he spent the better part of a decade declaring Tiki "not a feature back" and has generally, since then, only offered any semblance of opinion on players that have played for or against Miami?
Limited scope, even more limited understanding, unlimited voice.
And I think a lot of people are insecure about him being right more than most on this board and certainly our front office so you all love to whine about him and make him.