Indianapolis at Buffalo, 1 p.m.
Washington at Carolina, 1 p.m.
Baltimore at Chicago, 1 p.m.
Detroit at Cleveland, 1 p.m.
San Francisco at Jacksonville, 1 p.m.
Green Bay at Minnesota, 1 p.m.
Miami at New York Jets, 1 p.m.
New Orleans at Philadelphia, 1 p.m.
Houston at Tennessee, 1 p.m.
Cincinnati at Las Vegas, 4:05 p.m.
Dallas at Kansas City, 4:25 p.m.
Arizona at Seattle, 4:25 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Los Angeles Chargers, 8:20 p.m. (SNF)
for Baltimore.
There should be enough quality football players on any NFL roster to withstand injuries without seeing the drop in performance we often see.
Roster should be expanded, off season mini camps increased, more practice time.
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how many quality games do we get? 2, maybe 3?
There should be enough quality football players on any NFL roster to withstand injuries without seeing the drop in performance we often see.
Roster should be expanded, off season mini camps increased, more practice time.
As great as that sounds expanded rosters means bigger spending and right now I don’t see it with a league who’s revenues, will still good, aren’t what they would have been due to COVID.
That said when QBs and OL go down the quality of play takes a nosedive. Ditto for EDGE. There’s so many injuries this week.
Lamar Jackson may miss today with an illness and that would make the game with the Bears far more difficult.
Can the Cowboys defense control Mahomes? Mahomes seems to back on track last 2 games.
Should be a fun high scoring game.
Yep. Mack is out for the Bears though.
Can the Cowboys defense control Mahomes? Mahomes seems to back on track last 2 games.
Should be a fun high scoring game.
MVP season? So overrated!
Panthers 7-0. WFT is missing Sweat and of course Young. Never heard of their starting DEs.
Is there a logical reason to go against wishing ill on the Washington Racial Slurs?
He just finds ways to score points.
Not saying I don’t agree with it in this case, but coaches play the guy they feel gives them the best chance to win the game they re playing that day
He just finds ways to score points.
Given what you think of Jones I can’t believe, you can’t believe, you re saying it.
Raise the standards.
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but Jalen Hurts is clearly the 2nd best QB in the NFCE.
He just finds ways to score points.
Given what you think of Jones I can’t believe, you can’t believe, you re saying it.
seriously true
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but Jalen Hurts is clearly the 2nd best QB in the NFCE.
He just finds ways to score points.
Given what you think of Jones I can’t believe, you can’t believe, you re saying it.
I'm really just looking at production. And you can't say Hurts is surrounded with upper echelon talent...right?
Oh, and he just scored another TD...
Raise the standards.
You see. Jones is going to need another 5 years so we can get an idea of what he really is.
It's undecided and it is going to take another four years on top of those other five years because you know Rome wasn't built in a day. It's not going to happen overnight because teams do not go from bad to good in a few years ... such as the 49ers and Cardinals. You know you see he needs 2002 Terrell Owens and Tony Gonzalez in order to you know.... get things going.
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but Jalen Hurts is clearly the 2nd best QB in the NFCE.
He just finds ways to score points.
Given what you think of Jones I can’t believe, you can’t believe, you re saying it.
I'm really just looking at production. And you can't say Hurts is surrounded with upper echelon talent...right?
Oh, and he just scored another TD...
Hurts is playing well. I don’t think my post suggests he s not.
I’m tired of the losing. I’m tired of not seeing this team score 30 points. It’s enough already. If Jones is the guy, do it NOW. The whole point of drafting Jones #6 is to be able to raise the team when things around him aren’t ideal.
I’m this bothers you so much. The Eagles are a division rival who have a ridiculous amount of dead cap money, they were supposed to be bad this year. Complete rebuilding year. Yet, they are on their was to 5-6.
But got it though, the Giants cannot be discussed.
HAHAHA. Yes! Exactly right.
I’m tired of the losing. I’m tired of not seeing this team score 30 points. It’s enough already. If Jones is the guy, do it NOW. The whole point of drafting Jones #6 is to be able to raise the team when things around him aren’t ideal.
Yep. Hoping to see the offense we saw in The Saints game
Giants have had Barkley, Golladay, Shepherd. Engram and Toney on the field together for 0 games this season.
If Thomas plays, hopefully they won’t have to help his side, and it will make a big difference in making plays down field
Distraction from the relevant games.
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Another thread slowly descending in to a Daniel Jones bashing thread. You people could start a thread on the freaking weather report and within 20 posts someone would be posting about how the weather has been worse since Jones took over as Giants QB.
I’m this bothers you so much. The Eagles are a division rival who have a ridiculous amount of dead cap money, they were supposed to be bad this year. Complete rebuilding year. Yet, they are on their was to 5-6.
But got it though, the Giants cannot be discussed.
You just don't get it. Even people that agree are annoyed by the bashing in unrelated threads. What does Jalen Hurts have to do with Daniel Jones right now? Can you please just whine on tomorrow's game thread? I've learned enough to stay away from those.
It is super annoying and for me it is really ruining this site that I have been contributing to for more than 20 years.
Helmet to helmet. Easy call
He just finds ways to score points.
He's a good player, and clearly better than Jones. The Eagles did well drafting him where they did.
Carolina 14 - 7.
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but Jalen Hurts is clearly the 2nd best QB in the NFCE.
He just finds ways to score points.
He's a good player, and clearly better than Jones. The Eagles did well drafting him where they did.
Hahahahahah
Bills same at home to Colts
It s a futile task looking at an NFL schedule and penciling in wins and losses.
The Eagles have a functional offensive line. They have played the Saints, Lions, Broncos, and Chargers in last four weeks. Each team was decimated with injuries besides the Chargers. They lost to the Chargers.
true
Guilty. With Siriani as an unknown HC and so many question marks, I figured the Eagles would be lucky to scrape out 3 wins for the entire year.
Yet, here they are playing decent football and on the edge of a playoff spot...
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the eagles would be the worst team in the division. On paper they are yet are the second best team and played far better than any team minus the Cowboys. Sucks
Guilty. With Siriani as an unknown HC and so many question marks, I figured the Eagles would be lucky to scrape out 3 wins for the entire year.
Yet, here they are playing decent football and on the edge of a playoff spot...
They have played the Lions, the Saints without a QB and Kimara and their two offensive tackles who haven't won a game Siemean started, and a crappy Broncos team. If you want us to say they are better than the Giants, go for it. If you want us to say look at them, how great they are. Please
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but Jalen Hurts is clearly the 2nd best QB in the NFCE.
He just finds ways to score points.
He's a good player, and clearly better than Jones. The Eagles did well drafting him where they did.
Hahahahahah
Laugh all you want. I assure you the Eagles and their fans are laughing harder at us.
You superfans fill a valuable role here on BBI - a mirror for our fool of an owner.
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the eagles would be the worst team in the division. On paper they are yet are the second best team and played far better than any team minus the Cowboys. Sucks
The Eagles have a functional offensive line. They have played the Saints, Lions, Broncos, and Chargers in last four weeks. Each team was decimated with injuries besides the Chargers. They lost to the Chargers.
That offensive line is why I was one who did not assume the Eagles were a non factor
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but Jalen Hurts is clearly the 2nd best QB in the NFCE.
He just finds ways to score points.
He's a good player, and clearly better than Jones. The Eagles did well drafting him where they did.
Hahahahahah
Laugh all you want. I assure you the Eagles and their fans are laughing harder at us.
You superfans fill a valuable role here on BBI - a mirror for our fool of an owner.
On what planet is jones better than hurts?
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but Jalen Hurts is clearly the 2nd best QB in the NFCE.
He just finds ways to score points.
He's a good player, and clearly better than Jones. The Eagles did well drafting him where they did.
Hahahahahah
Laugh all you want. I assure you the Eagles and their fans are laughing harder at us.
You superfans fill a valuable role here on BBI - a mirror for our fool of an owner.
What, this is news they have a better offensive line than us. That offensive line was decimated with injuries last year. The year, Kelce and Johnson have remained healthy. Dickerson and Malta are not great pass blockers but they are good run blockers and they are utlitizing that offensive line until the league figures it out. So, this really has nothing to do with the Giants But, you be you.
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but Jalen Hurts is clearly the 2nd best QB in the NFCE.
He just finds ways to score points.
He's a good player, and clearly better than Jones. The Eagles did well drafting him where they did.
Hahahahahah
Laugh all you want. I assure you the Eagles and their fans are laughing harder at us.
You superfans fill a valuable role here on BBI - a mirror for our fool of an owner.
It is totally legit to bring up your rival's performance and roster development. They are a direct objective to winning in our division. Jalen Hurts as of today is out performing everyone in our division as QB not named Dak. Sorry if that bothers folks.
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Another thread slowly descending in to a Daniel Jones bashing thread. You people could start a thread on the freaking weather report and within 20 posts someone would be posting about how the weather has been worse since Jones took over as Giants QB.
I’m this bothers you so much. The Eagles are a division rival who have a ridiculous amount of dead cap money, they were supposed to be bad this year. Complete rebuilding year. Yet, they are on their was to 5-6.
But got it though, the Giants cannot be discussed.
And they have 3 first round picks next year too
14-14 at the half.
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but Jalen Hurts is clearly the 2nd best QB in the NFCE.
He just finds ways to score points.
He's a good player, and clearly better than Jones. The Eagles did well drafting him where they did.
Hahahahahah
Laugh all you want. I assure you the Eagles and their fans are laughing harder at us.
You superfans fill a valuable role here on BBI - a mirror for our fool of an owner.
I see, and you are a true fan
You can come up with reasons why Jones hasn’t been productive, but until Jones is productive Hurts is better and more productive. There was nothing wrong with the statement that Hurts is the second best QB in the division right now.
You might think Jones is off of potential, but potential doesn’t win football games.
The thing I hate about their Eagles is that their coach is such a smug doophus.
who is that? Siemen? Josh Allen? Justin Fields? who is slinging it all over the place today?
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it is the diagnosis of some of the anti-Jones crowd that I have an issue with, not discussing the Eagles
You can come up with reasons why Jones hasn’t been productive, but until Jones is productive Hurts is better and more productive. There was nothing wrong with the statement that Hurts is the second best QB in the division right now.
You might think Jones is off of potential, but potential doesn’t win football games.
You are missing the point. People would like to talk about the Giants or the NFL without a complete hijacking about Daniel Jones. I even agree with some of the people that doubt Jones, but it is so annoying.
There are a lot of good games on and I like hearing how people see the games. The Giants play tomorrow. But just look at this stupid thread...and basically the entire site.
Maybe just say your piece and give it a rest.
The thing I hate about their Eagles is that their coach is such a smug doophus.
Who called them the 85 bears? Your overly defensive and dramatic
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it is the diagnosis of some of the anti-Jones crowd that I have an issue with, not discussing the Eagles
You can come up with reasons why Jones hasn’t been productive, but until Jones is productive Hurts is better and more productive. There was nothing wrong with the statement that Hurts is the second best QB in the division right now.
You might think Jones is off of potential, but potential doesn’t win football games.
You are missing the point. People would like to talk about the Giants or the NFL without a complete hijacking about Daniel Jones. I even agree with some of the people that doubt Jones, but it is so annoying.
There are a lot of good games on and I like hearing how people see the games. The Giants play tomorrow. But just look at this stupid thread...and basically the entire site.
Maybe just say your piece and give it a rest.
Last I checked all someone said was Hurts was the second best QB in the division and someone defending Jones made it about Jones
We've covered this real estate often, but, to me, it's a coaching staff not confident in the offense and planning to to limit risk by a conservative approach game to game...
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other QB's regardless of who they are, I see them slinging the ball down the field. Is this a Jones or play calling problem? Or simply personnel problem? I would love actual analysis here.
We've covered this real estate often, but, to me, it's a coaching staff not confident in the offense and planning to to limit risk by a conservative approach game to game...
Which also asks the question, is that a coaching or personnel problem? Either our own coaches don't think we are good and is hurting our own players by not letting them loose or our players simply not being good enough.
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but Jalen Hurts is clearly the 2nd best QB in the NFCE.
He just finds ways to score points.
He's a good player, and clearly better than Jones. The Eagles did well drafting him where they did.
Hahahahahah
Laugh all you want. I assure you the Eagles and their fans are laughing harder at us.
You superfans fill a valuable role here on BBI - a mirror for our fool of an owner.
NYG beats New Orleans on the road while they’re pretty much completely healthy and it’s no big deal.
Philly is beating Trevor Semien at home with no Alvin Kamara and some are getting themselves all wet!
Nice!
I think Jason Garrett s interview with Paul Schwartz this week gave some insight on the play calling. In case you missed it, the inadequacies of the offensive line are difficult to scheme around.
There is no excuse at this pt in time for the continued futility of that group, that s on DG, but it is definitely a major player in a non productive offense
By comparison watch the games around the league and compare the pass pro to what we see from the Giants on a daily basis,
I hesitate to mention the Eagles less the thread gets derailed again, but Hurts has had solid protection today
I don’t want to say but I think it might be a team in our division who play in Texas
This is the point. He produces.
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Once you think it's one team, they let you down. So many top tems losing to mediocre teams at a rate I never seen before. Even today, Packers losing by two scores to the Vikings, Bills getting blown out by the Colts, Titans so far shut out by the Texans. What is happening in the NFL?
I don’t want to say but I think it might be a team in our division who play in Texas
Even they had a weird "wtf happened to them" game against the Broncos, but they came back the next week
The D needs to score a TD.
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other QB's regardless of who they are, I see them slinging the ball down the field. Is this a Jones or play calling problem? Or simply personnel problem? I would love actual analysis here.
I think Jason Garrett s interview with Paul Schwartz this week gave some insight on the play calling. In case you missed it, the inadequacies of the offensive line are difficult to scheme around.
There is no excuse at this pt in time for the continued futility of that group, that s on DG, but it is definitely a major player in a non productive offense
By comparison watch the games around the league and compare the pass pro to what we see from the Giants on a daily basis,
I hesitate to mention the Eagles less the thread gets derailed again, but Hurts has had solid protection today
I get the OL problems but I seen teams with bad OL still produce yards and points. Chargers and Vikings last year had HORRIBLE OL yet they put up lots of scores. It seems like only the Giants are limited by it.
They did the same thing to Tampa last week.
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has been very sharp and in command. He has made some extremely accurate and high quality throws. But the real story is the Washington OL. They are simply bullying the Panthers defense and blowing their DL off the LOS.
They did the same thing to Tampa last week.
If anything Washington has been more impressive than Philly. If they win this week, they would have beaten Tom Brady last week and this week the Panthers, no great shakes, but with McAffery. Still a long way to go though
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has been very sharp and in command. He has made some extremely accurate and high quality throws. But the real story is the Washington OL. They are simply bullying the Panthers defense and blowing their DL off the LOS.
They did the same thing to Tampa last week.
Yup. Meanwhile, our OL is a catastrophe, despite four years of DG's FA moves and draft picks.
And I never got the love for their defense. Mediocre.
A lot of pressure on Tannehill but it's a totally different offense with Henry out.
Heinecke.
The team that plays there, supposedly better adapted for the elements scores 7. 🤔
The team that plays there, supposedly better adapted for the elements scores 7. 🤔
Colts had high expectations this year. That’s why they went and traded for Wentz, it’s coming together for them.
Heineke is better and so is hurts
Come on man. You'd have to be half way objective to do that. Once you're dug in you have to stick with it.
Let’s Go Jets!
Jalen Hurts?
Quite a few.
Our porous OL is the main reason why I want to wait the entire season before making any judgment about Jones. Him not having most of his weapons this year is another.
It s obvious when you watch the game the difference between the Eagles pass pro and the Giants.
I think the presumption is Hurts would overcome the Giants poor O Line play. I don’t agree but I think that is the point being made with the comparison of the two.
Let’s Go Jets!
You realize Philadelphia owns the Dolphins 1st rounder, correct?
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Heineke is better and so is hurts
Today, yes.
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Hurts is playing behind 2 legit tackles and center. Jones plays with what exactly on the offensive line? Can’t just make blanket statements about QB play without analyzing the team around him. Football is the ultimate team game.
It s obvious when you watch the game the difference between the Eagles pass pro and the Giants.
I think the presumption is Hurts would overcome the Giants poor O Line play. I don’t agree but I think that is the point being made with the comparison of the two.
Hurts is also faster and can evade tacklers unlike Jones who has good strait line speed but I barely see him scramble
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Hurts is playing behind 2 legit tackles and center. Jones plays with what exactly on the offensive line? Can’t just make blanket statements about QB play without analyzing the team around him. Football is the ultimate team game.
It s obvious when you watch the game the difference between the Eagles pass pro and the Giants.
I think the presumption is Hurts would overcome the Giants poor O Line play. I don’t agree but I think that is the point being made with the comparison of the two.
Hurts is also faster and can evade tacklers unlike Jones who has good strait line speed but I barely see him scramble
Off schedule athletic plays, arm power and speed over come bad Oline. Hurts has it Jones does not. Jones has the superior passing arm and can make many elite level throws, but he cannot do that under pressure behind this oline.
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Go to Buffalo to play in miserable weather and score 31 pts.
The team that plays there, supposedly better adapted for the elements scores 7. 🤔
Colts had high expectations this year. That’s why they went and traded for Wentz, it’s coming together for them.
Go look at the Colts schedule to start the year. It was brutal. But they have weathered the storm nicely.
Imagine if they didn't collapse against the Ravens...
21-21.
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Let’s Go Jets!
You realize Philadelphia owns the Dolphins 1st rounder, correct?
I can’t worry where Philly draft!!! I can only worry where WE draft!
It is horrendously one-sided with these Refs
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Go to Buffalo to play in miserable weather and score 31 pts.
The team that plays there, supposedly better adapted for the elements scores 7. 🤔
Colts had high expectations this year. That’s why they went and traded for Wentz, it’s coming together for them.
Go look at the Colts schedule to start the year. It was brutal. But they have weathered the storm nicely.
Imagine if they didn't collapse against the Ravens...
When they got Quentin Nelson healthy and back in the starting lineup, EVERYTHING changed for them. He has got to be one of the greatest OG I’ve ever seen play, and I’ve been watching the pro game for almost 60 years.
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Let’s Go Jets!
You realize Philadelphia owns the Dolphins 1st rounder, correct?
I can’t worry where Philly draft!!! I can only worry where WE draft!
Ok. I'd sacrifice some spots in the 3rd to keep Philly out of the top 10. To each his own.
The wrong Gold Jacket. Way to go Gettleman.
B) Jones
C) Hurts
Great minds think alike.
B) Jones
C) Hurts
Today? It’s A.
He's a playmaker.
Do you remember in college? He was an incredible player at ODU.
I know it's annoying to see Jones bashing but I see other QB's that when the plays collapse, they improvise and make unbalanced throws. I barely see Jones scrambled.
Best WR in the NFL.
How much did the WFT pay Fitz this year? 10 million? Not his fault, but I think he got hurt in the first game. Can't see them bringing him back next year. Heinecke could still crash and burn this season, but he's looked pretty good, especially lately.
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a play by Heinecke.
I know it's annoying to see Jones bashing but I see other QB's that when the plays collapse, they improvise and make unbalanced throws. I barely see Jones scrambled.
In Jones's defense Joe Judge has coached every bloody inch of any reck loose freedom and confidence in using his instincts to make plays these last two years. Judge has made Jones into the budlight version of Alex Smith.
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a play by Heinecke.
He's a playmaker.
Do you remember in college? He was an incredible player at ODU.
I'll take your word for it. I didn't follow him in college.
That is not accurate, just better than Jones.
Tie 31-31 2 minutes left
Marino was the same way. With just a flick of his wrist the ball zipped 30 yards downfield.
They are in a weird spot, cousins is t horrible but they aren’t winning anything with him and should start considering playing Mond
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why?
They are in a weird spot, cousins is t horrible but they aren’t winning anything with him and should start considering playing Mond
Well we needed Vikings and Panthers to lose. Sucks that the eagles are going to win.
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why?
They are in a weird spot, cousins is t horrible but they aren’t winning anything with him and should start considering playing Mond
Um what?
I missed it. Why was the int overturned?
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I missed it. Why was the int overturned?
Not a catch lost control on the way down.
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I missed it. Why was the int overturned?
He caught it in the air and didn’t maintain possession going to the ground
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I missed it. Why was the int overturned?
Didn’t complete control of the ball.
27-21 WFT.
Let's see what Cam can do.
But yep with this Giants team it's gonna take a few years, you see for the Giants to gel and get good. I mean duh and common sense. Jones is a mystery that needs more time and let's keep Engram around for another 6 years. He's a keeper. Gotta keep Judge can't be firing coaches like that.
Does skybound blah blah common sense?
Comon KC!
You might have thanked the Ravens too soon
Comon KC!
We need to sign a player named "John Scumbag" who just injures Dak and Elliot instead.
Huntley coming up big for Balty.
Good chance? Isn't that what we call "all the time"?
They're not that good?
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That sucks. Need Dallas to lose or they will be 1st seed.
Comon KC!
We need to sign a player named "John Scumbag" who just injures Dak and Elliot instead.
LMFAO
Best team in AFC right now IMO.
Vikings over Packers
49ers over Jags
Good results for Giants:
Washington over Panthers
Eagles over Saints
Ravens over Bears
That's amazing
The draft stuff took care of itself today with Dolphins winning and Bears losing.
First and goal after a huge turnover
Run with the backup Rb
TE swing pass
RB out in flat.
Must be Garrett’s long lost brother.
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but the Pats are in first place.
Best team in AFC right now IMO.
I'd love to think that, but if the Chiefs win today I think they are going to reclaim that crown...
Their offense got tons better when Fields left.
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has happened to the Bills?
They're not that good?
Can't be. Ordained by BBI!
Vikings over Packers
49ers over Jags
Good results for Giants:
Washington over Panthers
Eagles over Saints
Ravens over Bears
Playoffs?!
How about the Giants win a game when they have some pressure on them. Hasn't happened in about 5 years.
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Bad results for Giants:
Vikings over Packers
49ers over Jags
Good results for Giants:
Washington over Panthers
Eagles over Saints
Ravens over Bears
Playoffs?!
How about the Giants win a game when they have some pressure on them. Hasn't happened in about 5 years.
I don't know why it makes some people so mad that we are a win on MNF from being in the very very thick of the playoff race.
Most underrated qb in the nfl.
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Bad results for Giants:
Vikings over Packers
49ers over Jags
Good results for Giants:
Washington over Panthers
Eagles over Saints
Ravens over Bears
Playoffs?!
How about the Giants win a game when they have some pressure on them. Hasn't happened in about 5 years.
Another tough guy. How about you worry about yourself instead of policing other people having fun doing what fans do.
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Did they score all their 13 points when he came in?
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every time I watch Minnesota, Cousins is uncannily good against the blitz.
Most underrated qb in the nfl.
I would say he's properly rated. A good NFL QB for a lot of years. But can't get to the next tier.
Agreed. Fucking hate them.
Maybe the come up big for once and beat Tampa, would propel them right into the thick of it.
Anyone who is bullish on Jones should expect it. Raise the standards.
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really are nauseating to listen to.
Agreed. Fucking hate them.
Especially when they do a Dallas game. Thank God for the mute button.
Sincerely, I don't understand what this means.
The Giants have played 6 competitive games and 3 uncompetitive games this season.
The uncompetitive games include an ugly week 1 loss to Denver to be sure, but the other two were losses against the 7-3 Rams and the 7-3 Cowboys, two teams with top 6 in the NFL records as I type this.
We have three other losses by a combined 7 points.
Since Week 1 this has been a very competitive team when not playing the league's very very best teams.
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Except for the Giants and a couple others of course. Fuck.
Sincerely, I don't understand what this means.
The Giants have played 6 competitive games and 3 uncompetitive games this season.
The uncompetitive games include an ugly week 1 loss to Denver to be sure, but the other two were losses against the 7-3 Rams and the 7-3 Cowboys, two teams with top 6 in the NFL records as I type this.
We have three other losses by a combined 7 points.
Since Week 1 this has been a very competitive team when not playing the league's very very best teams.
Excuse me, 7-2 Cowboys.
Wildcat wing-T with Kelce at QB?
Cry more Troy.
Troy just agreed that no flag on that play. What a fucking joke
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Haha Dallas looks like cheeseburger ass early on
Troy just agreed that no flag on that play. What a fucking joke
I was shocked, shocked Aikman said that!
They're turning into the favorite again.
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Their offense got tons better when Fields left.
Did they score all their 13 points when he came in?
Yes
Oh wow. Lightning rod offense.
Still better than Jones. Lol.
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Yes
Oh wow. Lightning rod offense.
Still better than Jones. Lol.
Fields scoring a donut burns that much? Ok.
Um ... What? I don't give a shit about either of them. They both suck.
New coach and Carr as well. Their offense is worse than ours.
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Bad results for Giants:
Vikings over Packers
49ers over Jags
Good results for Giants:
Washington over Panthers
Eagles over Saints
Ravens over Bears
Playoffs?!
How about the Giants win a game when they have some pressure on them. Hasn't happened in about 5 years.
When they have pressure on them! What does that even mean?
Was there pressure last year when they beat the Cowboys for a shot at the playoffs. There was no pressure at NO earlier this season
There’s pressure in most every NFL game with few exceptions
LoL a boomers thing? The boomers didn't care, there was more fighting and taunting then ever back in the day. This is a snowflake, don't hurt anyones feelings thing.
for some reason we didn't need him.
Yep, and what stinks is even a Joe Schmoe like me knew it.
Not a second guess,
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is a game wrecker. Wow.
Yep, and what stinks is even a Joe Schmoe like me knew it.
Not a second guess,
Well you are a Penn State fan so you may have had a little bias involved there.
I thought he'd be a good player, but he's a star. He didn't play like this at Penn State. Good player but didn't wreck games.
And despite how good he looks I'd still rather have Toney plus a top 5 pick in 2022, which is what they're going to get out of the bears pick.
There's a ton to rip Gettleman apart for, but I was fine with what he did in the draft in 2021. If Toney stays healthy he's going to be a very good player and a top 5 pick in 2022 is going to be huge
And despite how good he looks I'd still rather have Toney plus a top 5 pick in 2022, which is what they're going to get out of the bears pick.
There's a ton to rip Gettleman apart for, but I was fine with what he did in the draft in 2021. If Toney stays healthy he's going to be a very good player and a top 5 pick in 2022 is going to be huge
Toney is a gadget player who so far can’t stay on the field. He had one good game.
And despite how good he looks I'd still rather have Toney plus a top 5 pick in 2022, which is what they're going to get out of the bears pick.
There's a ton to rip Gettleman apart for, but I was fine with what he did in the draft in 2021. If Toney stays healthy he's going to be a very good player and a top 5 pick in 2022 is going to be huge
Can’t argue that. Those 2 top ten picks will be huge. Hit them both and things can instantly look different.
Question is, whose making the picks?
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werent the only team to pass on Parsons.
And despite how good he looks I'd still rather have Toney plus a top 5 pick in 2022, which is what they're going to get out of the bears pick.
There's a ton to rip Gettleman apart for, but I was fine with what he did in the draft in 2021. If Toney stays healthy he's going to be a very good player and a top 5 pick in 2022 is going to be huge
Can’t argue that. Those 2 top ten picks will be huge. Hit them both and things can instantly look different.
Question is, whose making the picks?
To early to make that call. We will revisit in the next 2-3 years.
Did anyone else notice this?
Did anyone else notice this?
This is about as bad is I’ve ever listened to them
They’re basically just rooting for them.
They’re basically just rooting for them.
Yeah, its hard to listen to Troy
Just pathetic
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is a game wrecker. Wow.
Yep, and what stinks is even a Joe Schmoe like me knew it.
Not a second guess,
Well you are a Penn State fan so you may have had a little bias involved there.
I thought he'd be a good player, but he's a star. He didn't play like this at Penn State. Good player but didn't wreck games.
True, but I didn’t want Barkley.
And despite how good he looks I'd still rather have Toney plus a top 5 pick in 2022, which is what they're going to get out of the bears pick.
There's a ton to rip Gettleman apart for, but I was fine with what he did in the draft in 2021. If Toney stays healthy he's going to be a very good player and a top 5 pick in 2022 is going to be huge
I agree with this, I was happy with the pick and Toney. I would have been fine with Parsons too
Did anyone else notice this?
Yeah. Dallas has a huge fan base so pandering to them boosts ratings
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is a game wrecker. Wow.
Yep, and what stinks is even a Joe Schmoe like me knew it.
Not a second guess,
Well you are a Penn State fan so you may have had a little bias involved there.
I thought he'd be a good player, but he's a star. He didn't play like this at Penn State. Good player but didn't wreck games.
True, but I didn’t want Barkley.
Only because you had a hard on for Sam Darnold. You were absolutely obsessed with that dude
It is really incredible the reason why we heard through the beat writers we did not have any interest in him. One of the several reasons I hate Gentleman and will never like Joe Judge.
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is a game wrecker. Wow.
Yep, and what stinks is even a Joe Schmoe like me knew it.
Not a second guess,
Well you are a Penn State fan so you may have had a little bias involved there.
I thought he'd be a good player, but he's a star. He didn't play like this at Penn State. Good player but didn't wreck games.
True, but I didn’t want Barkley.
Only because you had a hard on for Sam Darnold. You were absolutely obsessed with that dude
Actually I wanted Darnold or one of the other quarterbacks, only Allen has panned out , didn’t want Lamar
But why would you state that s the only reason, it wasn’t, I was a fan of Barkley but not with the second pick.
Next years pick better be a legend because parsons is fucking awesome. All he needs to do is stay healthy.
Yeah he runs like a corner but hits like Derrick Brooks. Definitely the type of guy who can change the attitude of an entire defense. In hindsight Prob would’ve been worth both the 1st rounders it would’ve cost us (the Toney pick + the Bears 1st rounder). Not sure of course what the Bears pick will turn into but IMO Parsons is a pretty nice bird in hand (if we were playing hypotheticals).
Mahomes looks confused and Dak just looks bad, so far.
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Now that’s a pick that will haunt me for years. He would have been a true game changer for nyg.
It is really incredible the reason why we heard through the beat writers we did not have any interest in him. One of the several reasons I hate Gentleman and will never like Joe Judge.
What was the reason the beat writers cited?
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Now that’s a pick that will haunt me for years. He would have been a true game changer for nyg.
It is really incredible the reason why we heard through the beat writers we did not have any interest in him. One of the several reasons I hate Gentleman and will never like Joe Judge.
What was the reason the beat writers cited?
The infamous "Character Concerns".
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Now that’s a pick that will haunt me for years. He would have been a true game changer for nyg.
It is really incredible the reason why we heard through the beat writers we did not have any interest in him. One of the several reasons I hate Gentleman and will never like Joe Judge.
What was the reason the beat writers cited?
The Nebulous Red Flags...
Next years pick better be a legend because parsons is fucking awesome. All he needs to do is stay healthy.
I don’t remember anyone in the NFL thinking Parsons was a “franchise changer”. The guy didn’t even go in the top 10. He was known for having elite athletic ability but extremely questionable character. Now after half a season the narrative has changed to whoever they pick with the Bears pick had better be a “legend”. You simply cannot make this shit up.
Dak is the man!!!
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Now that’s a pick that will haunt me for years. He would have been a true game changer for nyg.
It is really incredible the reason why we heard through the beat writers we did not have any interest in him. One of the several reasons I hate Gentleman and will never like Joe Judge.
What was the reason the beat writers cited?
The Nebulous Red Flags...
Maybe it was the knife fight he got in or the rubbing of junk on freshman’s faces as part of hazing?
Ahmad Bradshaw caused him to drop to 7th round...
Two backup QBs are going to win games without the teams #1 receiver. Individual games don’t mean much.
Nah, key play makers out, poor offensive line play would never keep a quarterback like Dak from performing well.
He s just off today
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They lose offensive linemen, and wide receivers(in the giants case, it’s also their running backs).
Nah, key play makers out, poor offensive line play would never keep a quarterback like Dak from performing well.
He s just off today
Troy Aikman? Is that you?
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They lose offensive linemen, and wide receivers(in the giants case, it’s also their running backs).
Dak doesn’t beat the better teams. He is a a 4th round pick with a great supporting cast.
Nah, key play makers out, poor offensive line play would never keep a quarterback like Dak from performing well.
He s just off today
Ball was on the ground when kc db hit the wr
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They lose offensive linemen, and wide receivers(in the giants case, it’s also their running backs).
Nah, key play makers out, poor offensive line play would never keep a quarterback like Dak from performing well.
He s just off today
Troy Aikman? Is that you?
Hahaha, good one.
Troy sounds like he's about to cry
Spags playing bend don't break...of course Dallas has no Timeouts and as soon as the Chiefs get the ball the game is over as long as 30 or 40 more secs tick off the clock.
9 points on the board. Funny how that works.
The gravitational pull they both have brought them together
9 points on the board. Funny how that works.
Shhhhhhh
What do you think? Do you think missing half your starting OL and basically every skill position player on the team has any effect on performance?
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Cowboys look like shit without Tyron Smith, Cooper & Lamb.
9 points on the board. Funny how that works.
Shhhhhhh
Well, I guess that settles it - Jones = Dak.
ANYWAY. Fuck Dallas.
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Which is it then? I see people on BBI often get infuriated with the thought of Mara citing injuries for the subpar season to date. Is that valid?
What do you think? Do you think missing half your starting OL and basically every skill position player on the team has any effect on performance?
They were fairly healthy during the early part of the season and still weren’t effective minus the last 20 minutes of the Saints game
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Cowboys look like shit without Tyron Smith, Cooper & Lamb.
9 points on the board. Funny how that works.
Shhhhhhh
Well, I guess that settles it - Jones = Dak.
Could be.
It's getting harder and harder to find a credible football analyst that doesn't think Jones is doing a good job given the circumstances.
Take what DAL had tonight - then subtract Elliot and their starting C too. That's what Jones has been working with basically all year.
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Which is it then? I see people on BBI often get infuriated with the thought of Mara citing injuries for the subpar season to date. Is that valid?
What do you think? Do you think missing half your starting OL and basically every skill position player on the team has any effect on performance?
They were fairly healthy during the early part of the season and still weren’t effective minus the last 20 minutes of the Saints game
Not what I asked.
9 points on the board. Funny how that works.
Well they looked like shit while Lamb was in the game so cross that one off.
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Which is it then? I see people on BBI often get infuriated with the thought of Mara citing injuries for the subpar season to date. Is that valid?
What do you think? Do you think missing half your starting OL and basically every skill position player on the team has any effect on performance?
The performance blew before the injuries.
This team lost home games to Denver and Atlanta. That's what this team is.
If you watch the rest of the league honestly you can see the Giants are near the bottom of it.
It's just a shitty team.
Bullshit on a shingle. Par for the course too.
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Which is it then? I see people on BBI often get infuriated with the thought of Mara citing injuries for the subpar season to date. Is that valid?
What do you think? Do you think missing half your starting OL and basically every skill position player on the team has any effect on performance?
The performance blew before the injuries.
This team lost home games to Denver and Atlanta. That's what this team is.
If you watch the rest of the league honestly you can see the Giants are near the bottom of it.
It's just a shitty team.
Well you admit that you don’t watch a lot of football so I’ll give you a pass for not realizing that there is a ton of shitty football played every Sunday. The Giants aren’t as far away from most of the teams in the league as you like to proclaim. But you wouldn’t know that. You do your player evaluating on Google “stats” and Madden.
Also, judging what this team is and will be based on the first few games of the season is as amateurish and disingenuous as it gets. They sucked in week one so that means they suck! Haha, classic dipshit stuff right there. Is there any other team in the league that is getting judged right now on what they were at the beginning of the season? Of course not. Because it’s fucking stupid.
And guess what? The Giants fucking blow on all three screens.
Give it up already.
It's getting harder and harder to find a credible football analyst that doesn't think Jones is doing a good job given the circumstances.
Take what DAL had tonight - then subtract Elliot and their starting C too. That's what Jones has been working with basically all year.
Has it ever occurred to you that Jones is still mediocre and inconsistent even if the team is fully healthy?
I feel pretty comfortable taking the position that Dak and that staff had a bad day. Their second in three weeks. That happens. Mahomes, for example, went through a slump for much of October.
But if these mental gymnastics make you feel better about Jones, than feel better...
Denver? Atlanta? The first 10 minutes of the Dallas game? Even Washington it was mostly FGs.
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When was that?
Denver? Atlanta? The first 10 minutes of the Dallas game? Even Washington it was mostly FGs.
First half of Dallas game*
And guess what? The Giants fucking blow on all three screens.
Give it up already.
Three tvs? PlayStation on one, XBox on the other and whatever random soccer game you can find on the third. Congratulations. You’ve got yourself a real nerd paradise there! But hey, you liked the stats you seen from Lamar Jackson in college, so you must be a genius! You’ve gotten a shit ton of mileage out of that one.
Look at Arizona. Winning with Colt. Giants need better players and coaching. It’s not just the QB.
Giants primary issue for going on a decade still remains. They too often loss the physical and athletic battle. Hopefully getting guys back helps.
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The only people who aren't willing to consider it a factor are people trying to advance their anti-Jones agenda.
It's getting harder and harder to find a credible football analyst that doesn't think Jones is doing a good job given the circumstances.
Take what DAL had tonight - then subtract Elliot and their starting C too. That's what Jones has been working with basically all year.
Has it ever occurred to you that Jones is still mediocre and inconsistent even if the team is fully healthy?
I feel pretty comfortable taking the position that Dak and that staff had a bad day. Their second in three weeks. That happens. Mahomes, for example, went through a slump for much of October.
But if these mental gymnastics make you feel better about Jones, than feel better...
It pretty difficult to have watched Dak look fairly hopeless when forced to deal with similar circumstances that Jones has dealt with most games this season, and not even consider the possibility that the , Giants might not have performed much better with Dak at the helm this season.
What we saw out there in KC definitely puts a some doubt in the argument that Jones is what is wrong with this offense.
But if these mental gymnastics make you feel better about Jones, than feel better...
Seriously it’s like half the jones brigade are just waiting for a good team to have an off day with injuries to be like ”see told you !!!!!!” It’s just impossible to play well when you have injuries and pressure”
But that is totally bullshit. Golladay has missed time when he has been in the line up — how many TDs does he have ??? 0
Barkley when he plays how many 100 yard games does he have ?
Toney?
What did they do before Thomas got hurt(the only n0ne jag — and yes Lemuel and gates are jags)— what did jones do???
Nothing !!!!
Amazing we all agree gettle is a screw up but on the most important position on decision he drafted a third round pick who never got any better but he’s a good QB playing on a bad oline... what nonsense
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The only people who aren't willing to consider it a factor are people trying to advance their anti-Jones agenda.
It's getting harder and harder to find a credible football analyst that doesn't think Jones is doing a good job given the circumstances.
Take what DAL had tonight - then subtract Elliot and their starting C too. That's what Jones has been working with basically all year.
Has it ever occurred to you that Jones is still mediocre and inconsistent even if the team is fully healthy?
I feel pretty comfortable taking the position that Dak and that staff had a bad day. Their second in three weeks. That happens. Mahomes, for example, went through a slump for much of October.
But if these mental gymnastics make you feel better about Jones, than feel better...
It pretty difficult to have watched Dak look fairly hopeless when forced to deal with similar circumstances that Jones has dealt with most games this season, and not even consider the possibility that the , Giants might not have performed much better with Dak at the helm this season.
What we saw out there in KC definitely puts a some doubt in the argument that Jones is what is wrong with this offense.
But there’s also been times Dak has put that team on his back. Teams have bad games.
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The only people who aren't willing to consider it a factor are people trying to advance their anti-Jones agenda.
It's getting harder and harder to find a credible football analyst that doesn't think Jones is doing a good job given the circumstances.
Take what DAL had tonight - then subtract Elliot and their starting C too. That's what Jones has been working with basically all year.
Has it ever occurred to you that Jones is still mediocre and inconsistent even if the team is fully healthy?
I feel pretty comfortable taking the position that Dak and that staff had a bad day. Their second in three weeks. That happens. Mahomes, for example, went through a slump for much of October.
But if these mental gymnastics make you feel better about Jones, than feel better...
It pretty difficult to have watched Dak look fairly hopeless when forced to deal with similar circumstances that Jones has dealt with most games this season, and not even consider the possibility that the , Giants might not have performed much better with Dak at the helm this season.
What we saw out there in KC definitely puts a some doubt in the argument that Jones is what is wrong with this offense.
We've seen Prescott look better running Garrett's offense, though.
If this team was healthy what are we, 4-5 best case scenario? It’s insane.
Not too many are arguing the Giants haven’t been a bad team, I think the argument has been about Jones ‘ role in it
Has it ever occurred to you that Jones is still mediocre and inconsistent even if the team is fully healthy?
I feel pretty comfortable taking the position that Dak and that staff had a bad day. Their second in three weeks. That happens. Mahomes, for example, went through a slump for much of October.
But if these mental gymnastics make you feel better about Jones, than feel better...
It pretty difficult to have watched Dak look fairly hopeless when forced to deal with similar circumstances that Jones has dealt with most games this season, and not even consider the possibility that the , Giants might not have performed much better with Dak at the helm this season.
What we saw out there in KC definitely puts a some doubt in the argument that Jones is what is wrong with this offense.
Dak, IMV, has done more than enough to earn the benefit of the doubt. Jones hasn't.
I do agree that Jones hasn't been dealt the best hand. But I'm still not sure he's the solution, either.
Frankly, I watch him hoping to see something where I say, "Wow, that was different. That's what we need..."
Have you ever said that? More than once? Twice?
I think the playoff teams will need at least 3 of the 5 following the back half of the year:
- Top tier head coach who makes few to no mistakes on game day
- Top tier QB who can make plays with his feet and arm when under pressure
- A consistent, crisp offensive line
- A game wrecking unit on defense (either secondary or pass rush most likely)
- Odds defying health across the whole team
I’m not sure the Giants have one of those.
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3-6, second worst record in the league the last five seasons, and some superfans can't bring themselves to say this shitty team is shitty. It's amazing.
Not too many are arguing the Giants haven’t been a bad team, I think the argument has been about Jones ‘ role in it
There are definitely people arguing the Giants are only bad because of the injuries
The line is razor thin and somehow the Giants have been on the losing side of the most in the last decade.
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3-6, second worst record in the league the last five seasons, and some superfans can't bring themselves to say this shitty team is shitty. It's amazing.
Not too many are arguing the Giants haven’t been a bad team, I think the argument has been about Jones ‘ role in it
His role in that is enormous.
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3-6, second worst record in the league the last five seasons, and some superfans can't bring themselves to say this shitty team is shitty. It's amazing.
Not too many are arguing the Giants haven’t been a bad team, I think the argument has been about Jones ‘ role in it
There are definitely people arguing the Giants are only bad because of the injuries
I think they are wrong. There were high resources used in the two guys at tackle the last few weeks. This team has not been out together well
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3-6, second worst record in the league the last five seasons, and some superfans can't bring themselves to say this shitty team is shitty. It's amazing.
Not too many are arguing the Giants haven’t been a bad team, I think the argument has been about Jones ‘ role in it
His role in that is enormous.
Yes, that s your side of the argument, some disagree
I don’t give one flying shit about the past 5 seasons. It means less than nothing in regards to the current team. Nobody thinks they are going to the Super Bowl. I just want to see steady improvement this season. They’ve won 2 out of the 3 last 3 despite being ravaged by injury. I wouldn’t expect you to acknowledge that injuries are an enormous factor because you simply don’t know or even care about that. You are openly rooting for losses so those wins are driving you crazy. So you point to the beginning of the season as a better indicator.
A fan openly rooting for losses less than halfway through a season is a fucking fraud and a disgrace. That is you. Yeah, let’s hope every player on the team turns out to be a disaster and makes no progress, rather than see them develop and show they have a future and are part of the team moving forward simply because you don’t like the GM and you’re more interested in being “right” than seeing the team progress and succeed. Fuck off with your bullshit. Others may fall for it, but I’m fully aware of who you are and what you’re about.
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3-6, second worst record in the league the last five seasons, and some superfans can't bring themselves to say this shitty team is shitty. It's amazing.
Not too many are arguing the Giants haven’t been a bad team, I think the argument has been about Jones ‘ role in it
His role in that is enormous.
Yes, that s your side of the argument, some disagree
And their case is built on conjecture vs. 5.5 years of football games at Duke and NYG.
The next prolific season Jones enjoys will be his first since high school. Maybe he's great, I guess it's possible.
He's just never shown it.
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3-6, second worst record in the league the last five seasons, and some superfans can't bring themselves to say this shitty team is shitty. It's amazing.
I don’t give one flying shit about the past 5 seasons. It means less than nothing in regards to the current team. Nobody thinks they are going to the Super Bowl. I just want to see steady improvement this season. They’ve won 2 out of the 3 last 3 despite being ravaged by injury. I wouldn’t expect you to acknowledge that injuries are an enormous factor because you simply don’t know or even care about that. You are openly rooting for losses so those wins are driving you crazy. So you point to the beginning of the season as a better indicator.
A fan openly rooting for losses less than halfway through a season is a fucking fraud and a disgrace. That is you. Yeah, let’s hope every player on the team turns out to be a disaster and makes no progress, rather than see them develop and show they have a future and are part of the team moving forward simply because you don’t like the GM and you’re more interested in being “right” than seeing the team progress and succeed. Fuck off with your bullshit. Others may fall for it, but I’m fully aware of who you are and what you’re about.
Here we go. People aren’t fans for being honest about the team.
They’ve gone on winning streaks and looked improved each of the last three years. Where has that gotten them?
Nobody is rooting for every player to be a disaster, you’re being dramatic.
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3-6, second worst record in the league the last five seasons, and some superfans can't bring themselves to say this shitty team is shitty. It's amazing.
Not too many are arguing the Giants haven’t been a bad team, I think the argument has been about Jones ‘ role in it
His role in that is enormous.
Yes, that s your side of the argument, some disagree
And their case is built on conjecture vs. 5.5 years of football games at Duke and NYG.
The next prolific season Jones enjoys will be his first since high school. Maybe he's great, I guess it's possible.
He's just never shown it.
And what kind of supporting cast has he had for the last 5.5 years?!?!
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3-6, second worst record in the league the last five seasons, and some superfans can't bring themselves to say this shitty team is shitty. It's amazing.
I don’t give one flying shit about the past 5 seasons. It means less than nothing in regards to the current team. Nobody thinks they are going to the Super Bowl. I just want to see steady improvement this season. They’ve won 2 out of the 3 last 3 despite being ravaged by injury. I wouldn’t expect you to acknowledge that injuries are an enormous factor because you simply don’t know or even care about that. You are openly rooting for losses so those wins are driving you crazy. So you point to the beginning of the season as a better indicator.
A fan openly rooting for losses less than halfway through a season is a fucking fraud and a disgrace. That is you. Yeah, let’s hope every player on the team turns out to be a disaster and makes no progress, rather than see them develop and show they have a future and are part of the team moving forward simply because you don’t like the GM and you’re more interested in being “right” than seeing the team progress and succeed. Fuck off with your bullshit. Others may fall for it, but I’m fully aware of who you are and what you’re about.
Hard to deny anything you’ve summed up here.
I said it earlier but the same people who threw cold water on the NYG win in New Orleans were going wild for the Eagles beating a much lesser version of the Saints at home. A win for the Eagles today that if the Giants had won under the same circumstances is chalked up as a meaningless win against a backup QB.
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3-6, second worst record in the league the last five seasons, and some superfans can't bring themselves to say this shitty team is shitty. It's amazing.
Not too many are arguing the Giants haven’t been a bad team, I think the argument has been about Jones ‘ role in it
There are definitely people arguing the Giants are only bad because of the injuries
Well, sure - considering he's never had much talent around him, but when that talent has been injured (shepard golladay, barkley, Thomas, etc) and then you have the guys who weren't even that talented to begin also go down (ie, the rest of the OL), the injuries have played a pretty big factor
How do you know Jones is any good?
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3-6, second worst record in the league the last five seasons, and some superfans can't bring themselves to say this shitty team is shitty. It's amazing.
I don’t give one flying shit about the past 5 seasons. It means less than nothing in regards to the current team. Nobody thinks they are going to the Super Bowl. I just want to see steady improvement this season. They’ve won 2 out of the 3 last 3 despite being ravaged by injury. I wouldn’t expect you to acknowledge that injuries are an enormous factor because you simply don’t know or even care about that. You are openly rooting for losses so those wins are driving you crazy. So you point to the beginning of the season as a better indicator.
A fan openly rooting for losses less than halfway through a season is a fucking fraud and a disgrace. That is you. Yeah, let’s hope every player on the team turns out to be a disaster and makes no progress, rather than see them develop and show they have a future and are part of the team moving forward simply because you don’t like the GM and you’re more interested in being “right” than seeing the team progress and succeed. Fuck off with your bullshit. Others may fall for it, but I’m fully aware of who you are and what you’re about.
Hard to deny anything you’ve summed up here.
I said it earlier but the same people who threw cold water on the NYG win in New Orleans were going wild for the Eagles beating a much lesser version of the Saints at home. A win for the Eagles today that if the Giants had won under the same circumstances is chalked up as a meaningless win against a backup QB.
Who went wild over the Eagles win?
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3-6, second worst record in the league the last five seasons, and some superfans can't bring themselves to say this shitty team is shitty. It's amazing.
I don’t give one flying shit about the past 5 seasons. It means less than nothing in regards to the current team. Nobody thinks they are going to the Super Bowl. I just want to see steady improvement this season. They’ve won 2 out of the 3 last 3 despite being ravaged by injury. I wouldn’t expect you to acknowledge that injuries are an enormous factor because you simply don’t know or even care about that. You are openly rooting for losses so those wins are driving you crazy. So you point to the beginning of the season as a better indicator.
A fan openly rooting for losses less than halfway through a season is a fucking fraud and a disgrace. That is you. Yeah, let’s hope every player on the team turns out to be a disaster and makes no progress, rather than see them develop and show they have a future and are part of the team moving forward simply because you don’t like the GM and you’re more interested in being “right” than seeing the team progress and succeed. Fuck off with your bullshit. Others may fall for it, but I’m fully aware of who you are and what you’re about.
Here we go. People aren’t fans for being honest about the team.
They’ve gone on winning streaks and looked improved each of the last three years. Where has that gotten them?
Nobody is rooting for every player to be a disaster, you’re being dramatic.
Dramatic? If the team had lost every single game KP like you and Terps wanted, that likely means that every player on the team sucks, or at least almost every player, correct? How the hell is that better than having a bunch of the young current players show that they can actually ball and are part of the future while winning games? It’s just absolutely stupid logic. Wouldn’t you feel better knowing that we have a solid core moving forward? Or has that already been determined because they started the season 0-3? I’m absolutely astonished some of you actually think this way. And again, STOP bringing up the past 5 seasons. They have nothing to do with this team. You guys have a real difficult time separating this in your pea brains.
I wish the Giants were good, it wouldn’t make making the trek to the meadowlands and spendings thousands on season tickets such a chore. I’d love to be watching meaningful football in December and getting exited for playoff games in January. The team just isn’t good and still needs a ton of work, it’s ok to admit that.
I wish the Giants were good, it wouldn’t make making the trek to the meadowlands and spendings thousands on season tickets such a chore. I’d love to be watching meaningful football in December and getting exited for playoff games in January. The team just isn’t good and still needs a ton of work, it’s ok to admit that.
Admit it? I don’t have to admit it, I’ve said it myself a thousand times. This team still has a ton of work to do. But some of you are so petrified that the GM will be brought back and Jones given another year if they start winning a bunch that it’s completely wrecked your common sense. You don’t seem to understand that this team losing every game the rest of the season isn’t just an indictment on Gettleman and Jones, it’s an indictment of the entire roster. And while you and Terps have already decided the entire roster blows because they started off slowly, people with a bit of intelligence would like to see this play out for the entire season. The last 5 years has zero to do with the players on this years team. Learn to separate them.
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If you think the people who went in to Week 1 of the season hoping the Giants lost every game, you’re the only one with a pea brain.
I wish the Giants were good, it wouldn’t make making the trek to the meadowlands and spendings thousands on season tickets such a chore. I’d love to be watching meaningful football in December and getting exited for playoff games in January. The team just isn’t good and still needs a ton of work, it’s ok to admit that.
Admit it? I don’t have to admit it, I’ve said it myself a thousand times. This team still has a ton of work to do. But some of you are so petrified that the GM will be brought back and Jones given another year if they start winning a bunch that it’s completely wrecked your common sense. You don’t seem to understand that this team losing every game the rest of the season isn’t just an indictment on Gettleman and Jones, it’s an indictment of the entire roster. And while you and Terps have already decided the entire roster blows because they started off slowly, people with a bit of intelligence would like to see this play out for the entire season. The last 5 years has zero to do with the players on this years team. Learn to separate them.
A good portion of the roster does blow else they wouldn’t be as bad as they are. Teams all over the league overcome injuries in singular games to win. The Cardinals did it without two players who are far and above better than anything the Giants have on their roster.
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Has it ever occurred to you that Jones is still mediocre and inconsistent even if the team is fully healthy?
I feel pretty comfortable taking the position that Dak and that staff had a bad day. Their second in three weeks. That happens. Mahomes, for example, went through a slump for much of October.
But if these mental gymnastics make you feel better about Jones, than feel better...
It pretty difficult to have watched Dak look fairly hopeless when forced to deal with similar circumstances that Jones has dealt with most games this season, and not even consider the possibility that the , Giants might not have performed much better with Dak at the helm this season.
What we saw out there in KC definitely puts a some doubt in the argument that Jones is what is wrong with this offense.
Dak, IMV, has done more than enough to earn the benefit of the doubt. Jones hasn't.
I do agree that Jones hasn't been dealt the best hand. But I'm still not sure he's the solution, either.
Frankly, I watch him hoping to see something where I say, "Wow, that was different. That's what we need..."
Have you ever said that? More than once? Twice?
Dak has one playoff win and consistently loses to good teams. I’ll tell what he is good at and that is compiling great stats. Even Dallas fans realize his limitations. You can have him @ $40M.
I wish the Giants were good, it wouldn’t make making the trek to the meadowlands and spendings thousands on season tickets such a chore. I’d love to be watching meaningful football in December and getting exited for playoff games in January. The team just isn’t good and still needs a ton of work, it’s ok to admit that.
They re not good, up to now. Nothing wrong with rooting for that to change the next 8 games.
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If you think the people who went in to Week 1 of the season hoping the Giants lost every game, you’re the only one with a pea brain.
I wish the Giants were good, it wouldn’t make making the trek to the meadowlands and spendings thousands on season tickets such a chore. I’d love to be watching meaningful football in December and getting exited for playoff games in January. The team just isn’t good and still needs a ton of work, it’s ok to admit that.
They re not good, up to now. Nothing wrong with rooting for that to change the next 8 games.
But we’ve seen this movie before. The odds are it’ll be more of the same, so there’s nothing wrong with wanting two top 8 picks going 4-13/5-12 instead of going 6-11. This teams not getting to 9-8 or even 8-9 if they get fully healthy.
We're tired of the Giants sucking. Gettleman and Jones are big reasons they suck. It's pretty simple.
This roster was assembled by an incompetent slob. Some of us would like a roster assembled by competent people.
Why would you want to do that? So this team starts out losing 0-3 against pretty bad teams but they are really a good team?
Good teams don’t do that. They win must win games or at least have a record better than .300. We know from last year finishing “strong” means nothing as it does not carry over. You claim the last five years mean nothing does last year team matter? Which is it ? Is there carry over or is t there? Why would you want to see this team “get better” over s stretch of meaningless games with almost 0 chance to make the playoffs? Also why does gettle get to rid woffni the sunset ? Eli didn’t get to do that.
How do you know Jones is any good?
Given the talent he's had, you can't say he's not.
So you - and others - who keep saying Jones sucks, how do we really know? He very well might. But when he hasn't had dick around him for his entire time (some due to injuries, some due to piss poor talent), I'm not ready to pass judgement. I was hoping this year might be the year we could fairly judge him, but we can't. The OL was going to be marginal if everyone was healthy, but it hasn't (including the one guy who seemed solid in Thomas). Golladay, Shep and barkley have been injured (as was expected, unfortunately)
Look at Arizona. Winning with Colt. Giants need better players and coaching. It’s not just the QB.
Giants primary issue for going on a decade still remains. They too often loss the physical and athletic battle. Hopefully getting guys back helps.
This exaclty. Colt looked washed up and horrible with our team last season. Fast forward and he’s a competent backup winning games playing well. You can blame Jones all you want but the roster is atrocious. The line play is bottom 2 in the league and his skill guys are always hurt. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say jones is the main problem and then at the same time say the roster construction is bad.
The evaluation has been piss poor going into the season with solder at right tackle. Lemieux who is a shitty guard at left guard. Will, who everyone can admit doesn’t play consistent ball at all and was drafted at the top of round 2. No coincidence that jones has one turnover when Andrew Thomas is playing left tackle. Jesus I’m so tired of blaming jones. He may not be a stud but he isn’t the issue wit the giants and losing football games. It’s actually the opposite. Few qbs in this league could win games with this team and avoid rushers as often as he does. His athleticism is why he hasn’t been sacked 60 times this season.
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You could say the same thing if you drafted a kid out of county college.
How do you know Jones is any good?
Given the talent he's had, you can't say he's not.
So you - and others - who keep saying Jones sucks, how do we really know? He very well might. But when he hasn't had dick around him for his entire time (some due to injuries, some due to piss poor talent), I'm not ready to pass judgement. I was hoping this year might be the year we could fairly judge him, but we can't. The OL was going to be marginal if everyone was healthy, but it hasn't (including the one guy who seemed solid in Thomas). Golladay, Shep and barkley have been injured (as was expected, unfortunately)
He doesn't show enough. He's barely shown anything. Of course, he'll be better with better players around him. But he's not the kind of QB that ever makes enough plays to be great. It's not just about the scheme and supporting cast, it's about talent. Look at Herbert tonight. That's what we want. A dominating presence. Jones has never, in his career, looked as good as Herbert tonight.
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The only people who aren't willing to consider it a factor are people trying to advance their anti-Jones agenda.
It's getting harder and harder to find a credible football analyst that doesn't think Jones is doing a good job given the circumstances.
Take what DAL had tonight - then subtract Elliot and their starting C too. That's what Jones has been working with basically all year.
Has it ever occurred to you that Jones is still mediocre and inconsistent even if the team is fully healthy?
I feel pretty comfortable taking the position that Dak and that staff had a bad day. Their second in three weeks. That happens. Mahomes, for example, went through a slump for much of October.
Keep beating that horse bw?
Honestly we don't know but experts like Phil Simms think otherwise. Who should we trust you or Phil Simms
But if these mental gymnastics make you feel better about Jones, than feel better...
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If you think the people who went in to Week 1 of the season hoping the Giants lost every game, you’re the only one with a pea brain.
I wish the Giants were good, it wouldn’t make making the trek to the meadowlands and spendings thousands on season tickets such a chore. I’d love to be watching meaningful football in December and getting exited for playoff games in January. The team just isn’t good and still needs a ton of work, it’s ok to admit that.
Admit it? I don’t have to admit it, I’ve said it myself a thousand times. This team still has a ton of work to do. But some of you are so petrified that the GM will be brought back and Jones given another year if they start winning a bunch that it’s completely wrecked your common sense. You don’t seem to understand that this team losing every game the rest of the season isn’t just an indictment on Gettleman and Jones, it’s an indictment of the entire roster. And while you and Terps have already decided the entire roster blows because they started off slowly, people with a bit of intelligence would like to see this play out for the entire season. The last 5 years has zero to do with the players on this years team. Learn to separate them.
A good portion of the roster does blow else they wouldn’t be as bad as they are. Teams all over the league overcome injuries in singular games to win. The Cardinals did it without two players who are far and above better than anything the Giants have on their roster.
Some of the roster does suck. Mainly the OL and probably QB. But I’m also convinced that most of you don’t know just how bad Garrett is at his job. Many, many football people have discussed numerous times the issues with Garrett’s archaic offensive scheme. There are good articles all over the internet explaining the deficiencies of his system. The Athletic has several of them. Or, we can ask Colt McCoy his thoughts…
I’m not saying it’s all on Garrett, he’s also trying to run an offense with an incompetent OL. But I for one think he’s a much bigger problem than most on this board thinks he is. I simply don’t believe this roster is as barren of talent as many of you do. There is talent on this roster.
That TD drive was all Herbert
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needs to shift. Many feel the Giants need a upgrade. He gets next year unless something changes and that clear upgrade presents itself. Guess what. The majority of teams want a upgrade.
Look at Arizona. Winning with Colt. Giants need better players and coaching. It’s not just the QB.
Giants primary issue for going on a decade still remains. They too often loss the physical and athletic battle. Hopefully getting guys back helps.
This exaclty. Colt looked washed up and horrible with our team last season. Fast forward and he’s a competent backup winning games playing well. You can blame Jones all you want but the roster is atrocious. The line play is bottom 2 in the league and his skill guys are always hurt. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say jones is the main problem and then at the same time say the roster construction is bad.
The evaluation has been piss poor going into the season with solder at right tackle. Lemieux who is a shitty guard at left guard. Will, who everyone can admit doesn’t play consistent ball at all and was drafted at the top of round 2. No coincidence that jones has one turnover when Andrew Thomas is playing left tackle. Jesus I’m so tired of blaming jones. He may not be a stud but he isn’t the issue wit the giants and losing football games. It’s actually the opposite. Few qbs in this league could win games with this team and avoid rushers as often as he does. His athleticism is why he hasn’t been sacked 60 times this season.
You may be tired of the blaming, but if you admit Jones is not a stud, then you are agreeing with many of us. *Not a stud* is not good enough in this NFL.
But good for Herb bouncing back so far. He's been awful the past few weeks.
Yeah that's not old.
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You could say the same thing if you drafted a kid out of county college.
How do you know Jones is any good?
Given the talent he's had, you can't say he's not.
So you - and others - who keep saying Jones sucks, how do we really know? He very well might. But when he hasn't had dick around him for his entire time (some due to injuries, some due to piss poor talent), I'm not ready to pass judgement. I was hoping this year might be the year we could fairly judge him, but we can't. The OL was going to be marginal if everyone was healthy, but it hasn't (including the one guy who seemed solid in Thomas). Golladay, Shep and barkley have been injured (as was expected, unfortunately)
He doesn't show enough. He's barely shown anything. Of course, he'll be better with better players around him. But he's not the kind of QB that ever makes enough plays to be great. It's not just about the scheme and supporting cast, it's about talent. Look at Herbert tonight. That's what we want. A dominating presence. Jones has never, in his career, looked as good as Herbert tonight.
Sigh.
Herbert has significantly better talent around him.
Not to mention a competent playcaller…
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You could say the same thing if you drafted a kid out of county college.
How do you know Jones is any good?
Given the talent he's had, you can't say he's not.
So you - and others - who keep saying Jones sucks, how do we really know? He very well might. But when he hasn't had dick around him for his entire time (some due to injuries, some due to piss poor talent), I'm not ready to pass judgement. I was hoping this year might be the year we could fairly judge him, but we can't. The OL was going to be marginal if everyone was healthy, but it hasn't (including the one guy who seemed solid in Thomas). Golladay, Shep and barkley have been injured (as was expected, unfortunately)
The fucking burden of proof is on him! You could grab any asshole off the street, start him at quarterback, and say he doesn't have enough help.
This is the NFL, a competitive business. It isn't a rec league for 6 year olds.
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If you think the people who went in to Week 1 of the season hoping the Giants lost every game, you’re the only one with a pea brain.
I wish the Giants were good, it wouldn’t make making the trek to the meadowlands and spendings thousands on season tickets such a chore. I’d love to be watching meaningful football in December and getting exited for playoff games in January. The team just isn’t good and still needs a ton of work, it’s ok to admit that.
Admit it? I don’t have to admit it, I’ve said it myself a thousand times. This team still has a ton of work to do. But some of you are so petrified that the GM will be brought back and Jones given another year if they start winning a bunch that it’s completely wrecked your common sense. You don’t seem to understand that this team losing every game the rest of the season isn’t just an indictment on Gettleman and Jones, it’s an indictment of the entire roster. And while you and Terps have already decided the entire roster blows because they started off slowly, people with a bit of intelligence would like to see this play out for the entire season. The last 5 years has zero to do with the players on this years team. Learn to separate them.
A good portion of the roster does blow else they wouldn’t be as bad as they are. Teams all over the league overcome injuries in singular games to win. The Cardinals did it without two players who are far and above better than anything the Giants have on their roster.
Some of the roster does suck. Mainly the OL and probably QB. But I’m also convinced that most of you don’t know just how bad Garrett is at his job. Many, many football people have discussed numerous times the issues with Garrett’s archaic offensive scheme. There are good articles all over the internet explaining the deficiencies of his system. The Athletic has several of them. Or, we can ask Colt McCoy his thoughts…
I’m not saying it’s all on Garrett, he’s also trying to run an offense with an incompetent OL. But I for one think he’s a much bigger problem than most on this board thinks he is. I simply don’t believe this roster is as barren of talent as many of you do. There is talent on this roster.
But use some common sense. Judge understands enough to know what kind of offense Garrett is running. And Garrett isn't a moron, he knows the criticism.
Have you considered that they run this offense as a function of their evaluation of the QB. They dumbed down the offense in the middle of last season, remember? It was because Jones was making too many mistakes. They really haven't let the reigns go. It stands to some reason they want to win games, rather than watch Jones blow games by opening things up. It may not be the answer, but it is a strong possibility.
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You could say the same thing if you drafted a kid out of county college.
How do you know Jones is any good?
Given the talent he's had, you can't say he's not.
So you - and others - who keep saying Jones sucks, how do we really know? He very well might. But when he hasn't had dick around him for his entire time (some due to injuries, some due to piss poor talent), I'm not ready to pass judgement. I was hoping this year might be the year we could fairly judge him, but we can't. The OL was going to be marginal if everyone was healthy, but it hasn't (including the one guy who seemed solid in Thomas). Golladay, Shep and barkley have been injured (as was expected, unfortunately)
He doesn't show enough. He's barely shown anything. Of course, he'll be better with better players around him. But he's not the kind of QB that ever makes enough plays to be great. It's not just about the scheme and supporting cast, it's about talent. Look at Herbert tonight. That's what we want. A dominating presence. Jones has never, in his career, looked as good as Herbert tonight.
Sigh.
Herbert has significantly better talent around him.
Not to mention a competent playcaller…
When everyone is healthy it isn't much of a talent gap. But seriously, do you not *see* Herbert has more talent? And processes faster? Don't you see it? Jones often has time and doesn't do enough with it. Jones moves and doesn't do enough with it. Are you not seeing something that is obviously true?
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You could say the same thing if you drafted a kid out of county college.
How do you know Jones is any good?
Given the talent he's had, you can't say he's not.
So you - and others - who keep saying Jones sucks, how do we really know? He very well might. But when he hasn't had dick around him for his entire time (some due to injuries, some due to piss poor talent), I'm not ready to pass judgement. I was hoping this year might be the year we could fairly judge him, but we can't. The OL was going to be marginal if everyone was healthy, but it hasn't (including the one guy who seemed solid in Thomas). Golladay, Shep and barkley have been injured (as was expected, unfortunately)
The fucking burden of proof is on him! You could grab any asshole off the street, start him at quarterback, and say he doesn't have enough help.
This is the NFL, a competitive business. It isn't a rec league for 6 year olds.
The burden is on him to prove he’s a legit QB when he’s got shit at all the skill positions (when golladay and Barkley are sidelined), shit on OL (especially when Thomas is out) and has butterfingers at TE? And a shit Playcaller for the icing on top?
Lol. Let’s see how Mahomes, Herbert et al would do with this group.
Or better yet, let’s see how Jones would do on those teams.
Games don't get played out in an alternate universe where everything is perfect. Maybe John Ross would have been Marvin Harrison if he'd been drafted by a different team and stayed healthy. Maybe Lorenzo Carter would have been much better on a different defense and without the injury.
So what? Here in the real world those guys are mediocre. So is Jones.
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You could say the same thing if you drafted a kid out of county college.
How do you know Jones is any good?
Given the talent he's had, you can't say he's not.
So you - and others - who keep saying Jones sucks, how do we really know? He very well might. But when he hasn't had dick around him for his entire time (some due to injuries, some due to piss poor talent), I'm not ready to pass judgement. I was hoping this year might be the year we could fairly judge him, but we can't. The OL was going to be marginal if everyone was healthy, but it hasn't (including the one guy who seemed solid in Thomas). Golladay, Shep and barkley have been injured (as was expected, unfortunately)
The fucking burden of proof is on him! You could grab any asshole off the street, start him at quarterback, and say he doesn't have enough help.
This is the NFL, a competitive business. It isn't a rec league for 6 year olds.
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The burden is on him to prove he’s a legit QB when he’s got shit at all the skill positions (when golladay and Barkley are sidelined), shit on OL (especially when Thomas is out) and has butterfingers at TE? And a shit Playcaller for the icing on top?
Lol. Let’s see how Mahomes, Herbert et al would do with this group.
Or better yet, let’s see how Jones would do on those teams.
Stop making me gag. Mahomes and Herbert would do much better than Jones with any group. They are much, much more talented than him. Are you this delusional? You think Jones can hang with these guys? Jones tries hard and he's a gamer but he can't throw with them and he doesn't have their instincts for the position. You talk about what observers say, you can't find an observer who would rate Jones in those categories with Mahomes and Herbert. None. Nobody thinks Jones can be as good as these guys. They say maybe they can win with him, if he has a great supporting cast.
Because that is an iconic example of bad management.
The fact is jones was never good enough to be a QB that Reid wanted or anyone for that matter. Maybe Elway wanted him in Denver. Jones I a third round pick in a normal draft class — and I’m dieing on that hill — he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt . Any third round pick would look better with a better surrounding cast. And most whondraft QBs that late develop them into a system with skilled players drafted correctly carry some of the burden. Jones was drafted 6 overall and has shown nothing special. So what does it matter if he could play better on the LARams not that I believe that
Games don't get played out in an alternate universe where everything is perfect. Maybe John Ross would have been Marvin Harrison if he'd been drafted by a different team and stayed healthy. Maybe Lorenzo Carter would have been much better on a different defense and without the injury.
So what? Here in the real world those guys are mediocre. So is Jones.
Again, I don’t see why this comment is polarizing. It’s completely fair based on the results. Where are the touchdowns? Where is the production?
Even in 2019, the majority of production came in a few games. (TB, NYJ, WFT)
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You’re a broken record. You bore me. No gives a shit about how you and your two clown buddies feel about Daniel Jones. The fact that you just can’t stop repeating yourselves tells me all I need to know about you
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It’s because you’ve lost the debate.
You’re a broken record. You bore me. No gives a shit about how you and your two clown buddies feel about Daniel Jones. The fact that you just can’t stop repeating yourselves tells me all I need to know about you
Have a snickers, you seem angry
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It’s because you’ve lost the debate.
You’re a broken record. You bore me. No gives a shit about how you and your two clown buddies feel about Daniel Jones. The fact that you just can’t stop repeating yourselves tells me all I need to know about you
The funny thing is that from your previous comments it is pretty clear you agree that Jones is inadequate. Why you are afraid to speak the truth or be real about your opinion is a mystery. This is a Giants board. Where else are you going to be real about the Giants.
It's pretty good. New guard/old guard. Serious playoff implications.
Dak, IMV, has done more than enough to earn the benefit of the doubt. Jones hasn't.
I do agree that Jones hasn't been dealt the best hand. But I'm still not sure he's the solution, either.
Frankly, I watch him hoping to see something where I say, "Wow, that was different. That's what we need..."
Have you ever said that? More than once? Twice?
Dak has one playoff win and consistently loses to good teams. I’ll tell what he is good at and that is compiling great stats. Even Dallas fans realize his limitations. You can have him @ $40M.
Can you answer my question on Jones, please? Have you ever seen anything special in his play that gave you confidence he's got what it takes to be a legit franchise QB?
As for Dak, I think the Joneses got taken to the cleaners by Team Dak. They completely misplayed that situation.
I've never said Dak was in the same stratosphere as Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady, Wilson. But he's in that next tranche that make up the rest of the top ten.
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What a stupid Sunday night game
It's pretty good. New guard/old guard. Serious playoff implications.
Ben is washed and the Steelers Defense is missing most of its starters.
It was over before the whistle blew.
But one thing I am sure about is the DG should never be allowed to make another personnel decision.
He’s like Bruce Willis in the sixth sense. He just can’t see that the game has passed him by.
1 point away from a tie
NFL doesn't care.
That was honestly insane. I can’t believe Al and Chris didn’t speak on that more they were just praising him for making a hustle play. So weird the OL was trying to life Hayward off of Herbert so he got pissed and decided to roll him over and start punching him in the stomach? What a psycho. It’s not even like Herbert did anything, if you have issue with the dude grabbing you take it up with him, don’t just start mindlessly punching the QB in the midsection lmao
Btw these missed helmet to helmet calls are brutal. The one on Najee and then the one on the DB who intercepted the ball. Just clear targeting with the helmet on the 2nd one and putting the full weight of his 300 lb body into the dudes head/neck at an awkward angle— he literally couldn’t broken his neck. And the one to Najee Harris was crazy too— the dude literally did like a flying elbow leap launched directly into his chin/throat and causing his head to bounce off the turf. Both of those plays seemed pretty intentionally dirty to me. And both came at a point where the guy was already going to the ground or on the ground.
Terrible call to go there. Fucking terrible
He has to get fined for that
What the fuck was that? We’re they trying a hook and lateral?
yes .. going for it was right. I would have preferred a play action.
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got for 4th and 29?
What the fuck was that? We’re they trying a hook and lateral?
Guess they figured based on the 2 sacks right before they didn’t have time to let the receivers run 30 yards. And yet Ben still rushed the throw because he was clearly seeing ghosts after those first 2 plays
I’m not saying it’s all on Garrett, he’s also trying to run an offense with an incompetent OL..
Am I then only one who is so sick and tired of hearing this? This team made the playoffs one year in the last five with a dipshit mcadoo whose offense looked something like a local high school coach was doing. Same formation ; same personnel package 90 percent if not more of the time.
A bunch of arm chair QBs who never played a snap in their life makenyou tune vids and now that becomes the narrative? I’m not crazy about garret but he is easily the most accomplished coach giants have had since TC.
Colt McCoy is obviously just one of another long list of backup QBs that could give Jones a run for his money. He played well against a better Seahawks team last year. His numbers were not great but he made the throws when they counted.
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Or, we can ask Colt McCoy his thoughts…
Colt McCoy is obviously just one of another long list of backup QBs that could give Jones a run for his money. He played well against a better Seahawks team last year. His numbers were not great but he made the throws when they counted.
If he's better than Jones, why didn't we keep him?
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Or, we can ask Colt McCoy his thoughts…
Colt McCoy is obviously just one of another long list of backup QBs that could give Jones a run for his money. He played well against a better Seahawks team last year. His numbers were not great but he made the throws when they counted.
If he's better than Jones, why didn't we keep him?
Never said he was better. I just think the vast majority of BBIers have a pumped up view of Jones. He fits right in with many of the leagues back ups.
Let me ask you this -- do you really have faith in Gettel's ability to evaluate talent? At this point we are sort of stuck with him. What have you seen in Jones that indicates he is top level starting QB talent?
It's ok for people to be optimistic based on those factors improving. Just as it's OK for you to think he sucks and will never be good.
The thing that really phucquing BLOWS? Is that we have to see 4 or 5 of you swoop in proclaiming how much he sucks for 150,000 posts in every G*d*mn thread. I mean we get it. But holy shit! Enough on EVERY friggen thread already.