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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/21/2021 8:55 am
Indianapolis at Buffalo, 1 p.m.
Washington at Carolina, 1 p.m.
Baltimore at Chicago, 1 p.m.
Detroit at Cleveland, 1 p.m.
San Francisco at Jacksonville, 1 p.m.
Green Bay at Minnesota, 1 p.m.
Miami at New York Jets, 1 p.m.
New Orleans at Philadelphia, 1 p.m.
Houston at Tennessee, 1 p.m.
Cincinnati at Las Vegas, 4:05 p.m.
Dallas at Kansas City, 4:25 p.m.
Arizona at Seattle, 4:25 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Los Angeles Chargers, 8:20 p.m. (SNF)
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RE: When you have to resort to insults  
BigBlueShock : 11/21/2021 9:48 pm : link
In comment 15460194 ajr2456 said:
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It’s because you’ve lost the debate.

You’re a broken record. You bore me. No gives a shit about how you and your two clown buddies feel about Daniel Jones. The fact that you just can’t stop repeating yourselves tells me all I need to know about you
RE: RE: When you have to resort to insults  
ajr2456 : 11/21/2021 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15460198 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15460194 ajr2456 said:


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It’s because you’ve lost the debate.


You’re a broken record. You bore me. No gives a shit about how you and your two clown buddies feel about Daniel Jones. The fact that you just can’t stop repeating yourselves tells me all I need to know about you


Have a snickers, you seem angry
RE: RE: When you have to resort to insults  
Producer : 11/21/2021 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15460198 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15460194 ajr2456 said:


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It’s because you’ve lost the debate.


You’re a broken record. You bore me. No gives a shit about how you and your two clown buddies feel about Daniel Jones. The fact that you just can’t stop repeating yourselves tells me all I need to know about you


The funny thing is that from your previous comments it is pretty clear you agree that Jones is inadequate. Why you are afraid to speak the truth or be real about your opinion is a mystery. This is a Giants board. Where else are you going to be real about the Giants.
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Route 9 : 11/21/2021 9:57 pm : link
What a stupid Sunday night game
RE: ......  
Producer : 11/21/2021 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15460214 Route 9 said:
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What a stupid Sunday night game


It's pretty good. New guard/old guard. Serious playoff implications.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Sean  
bw in dc : 11/21/2021 10:02 pm : link
In comment 15460140 joe48 said:
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Dak, IMV, has done more than enough to earn the benefit of the doubt. Jones hasn't.

I do agree that Jones hasn't been dealt the best hand. But I'm still not sure he's the solution, either.

Frankly, I watch him hoping to see something where I say, "Wow, that was different. That's what we need..."

Have you ever said that? More than once? Twice?


Dak has one playoff win and consistently loses to good teams. I’ll tell what he is good at and that is compiling great stats. Even Dallas fans realize his limitations. You can have him @ $40M.


Can you answer my question on Jones, please? Have you ever seen anything special in his play that gave you confidence he's got what it takes to be a legit franchise QB?

As for Dak, I think the Joneses got taken to the cleaners by Team Dak. They completely misplayed that situation.

I've never said Dak was in the same stratosphere as Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady, Wilson. But he's in that next tranche that make up the rest of the top ten.

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Route 9 : 11/21/2021 10:04 pm : link
Oh shit for some reason I thought the Chargers were playing the Raiders. Just woke up.
RE: RE: ......  
Toth029 : 11/21/2021 10:07 pm : link
In comment 15460215 Producer said:
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In comment 15460214 Route 9 said:


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What a stupid Sunday night game



It's pretty good. New guard/old guard. Serious playoff implications.


Ben is washed and the Steelers Defense is missing most of its starters.

It was over before the whistle blew.
Is  
AcidTest : 11/21/2021 10:32 pm : link
it Jones, or is it his bad OL and the fact that most of his playmakers have been hurt this year? Unlike many who have already decided, I am waiting until the end of the season before making that determination. Let's see what happens tomorrow. Jones might surprise. I am hoping he does.

But one thing I am sure about is the DG should never be allowed to make another personnel decision.
Ben  
AcidTest : 11/21/2021 10:40 pm : link
is Eli. Totally immobile. Can't move.
RE: Ben  
cjac : 11/21/2021 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15460245 AcidTest said:
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is Eli. Totally immobile. Can't move.


He’s like Bruce Willis in the sixth sense. He just can’t see that the game has passed him by.
Dude...  
JohnG in Albany : 11/21/2021 10:55 pm : link
seemed to punch Herbert in the gut.
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Route 9 : 11/21/2021 11:13 pm : link
Bonk! Interception by Pittsburgh.
This game is getting interesting.  
St. Jimmy : 11/21/2021 11:14 pm : link
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How does Norton not get a Personal Foul  
montanagiant : 11/21/2021 11:15 pm : link
For a painfully obvious helmet to helmet on a defenseless player?
RE: This game is getting interesting.  
Route 9 : 11/21/2021 11:16 pm : link
In comment 15460265 St. Jimmy said:
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1 point away from a tie
Both  
Toth029 : 11/21/2021 11:19 pm : link
Teams have players who would normally be ejected.

NFL doesn't care.
RE: Dude...  
Leg of Theismann : 11/21/2021 11:20 pm : link
In comment 15460254 JohnG in Albany said:
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seemed to punch Herbert in the gut.


That was honestly insane. I can’t believe Al and Chris didn’t speak on that more they were just praising him for making a hustle play. So weird the OL was trying to life Hayward off of Herbert so he got pissed and decided to roll him over and start punching him in the stomach? What a psycho. It’s not even like Herbert did anything, if you have issue with the dude grabbing you take it up with him, don’t just start mindlessly punching the QB in the midsection lmao

Btw these missed helmet to helmet calls are brutal. The one on Najee and then the one on the DB who intercepted the ball. Just clear targeting with the helmet on the 2nd one and putting the full weight of his 300 lb body into the dudes head/neck at an awkward angle— he literally couldn’t broken his neck. And the one to Najee Harris was crazy too— the dude literally did like a flying elbow leap launched directly into his chin/throat and causing his head to bounce off the turf. Both of those plays seemed pretty intentionally dirty to me. And both came at a point where the guy was already going to the ground or on the ground.
Wowzers  
dancing blue bear : 11/21/2021 11:21 pm : link
Pitt hangin tough

Terrible call to go there. Fucking terrible
RE: Dude...  
cjac : 11/21/2021 11:21 pm : link
In comment 15460254 JohnG in Albany said:
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seemed to punch Herbert in the gut.


He has to get fined for that
Where is Joe Judge when you need him?  
St. Jimmy : 11/21/2021 11:22 pm : link
?
Chargers  
Toth029 : 11/21/2021 11:23 pm : link
Choke job.
That’s why pure analytics in a vacuum  
dancing blue bear : 11/21/2021 11:24 pm : link
Is stupid. Read the room.
Oops...  
JohnG in Albany : 11/21/2021 11:28 pm : link
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haha  
Producer : 11/21/2021 11:30 pm : link
fun game
Big Play Mike hasn't had a touchdown in a month.  
St. Jimmy : 11/21/2021 11:30 pm : link
That was good.
Pitt is gonna need the refs  
dancing blue bear : 11/21/2021 11:33 pm : link
To help them down the feild
Fackrell, didn't need him.  
St. Jimmy : 11/21/2021 11:33 pm : link
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That's why you go for it on fourth down earlier  
Go Terps : 11/21/2021 11:34 pm : link
Punting would have given Pittsburgh the opportunity to run down the clock. You need to lengthen the game and aim to win with Herbert, not the defense.
Waddya...  
JohnG in Albany : 11/21/2021 11:34 pm : link
got for 4th and 29?
RE: Waddya...  
cjac : 11/21/2021 11:36 pm : link
In comment 15460287 JohnG in Albany said:
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got for 4th and 29?


What the fuck was that? We’re they trying a hook and lateral?
RE: That's why you go for it on fourth down earlier  
Producer : 11/21/2021 11:41 pm : link
In comment 15460286 Go Terps said:
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Punting would have given Pittsburgh the opportunity to run down the clock. You need to lengthen the game and aim to win with Herbert, not the defense.


yes .. going for it was right. I would have preferred a play action.
RE: RE: Waddya...  
Leg of Theismann : 11/21/2021 11:42 pm : link
In comment 15460291 cjac said:
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In comment 15460287 JohnG in Albany said:


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got for 4th and 29?



What the fuck was that? We’re they trying a hook and lateral?


Guess they figured based on the 2 sacks right before they didn’t have time to let the receivers run 30 yards. And yet Ben still rushed the throw because he was clearly seeing ghosts after those first 2 plays
RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
Debaser : 11/22/2021 8:57 am : link
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But I’m also convinced that most of you don’t know just how bad Garrett is at his job. Many, many football people have discussed numerous times the issues with Garrett’s archaic offensive scheme. There are good articles all over the internet explaining the deficiencies of his system. The Athletic has several of them. Or, we can ask Colt McCoy his thoughts…

I’m not saying it’s all on Garrett, he’s also trying to run an offense with an incompetent OL..


Am I then only one who is so sick and tired of hearing this? This team made the playoffs one year in the last five with a dipshit mcadoo whose offense looked something like a local high school coach was doing. Same formation ; same personnel package 90 percent if not more of the time.

A bunch of arm chair QBs who never played a snap in their life makenyou tune vids and now that becomes the narrative? I’m not crazy about garret but he is easily the most accomplished coach giants have had since TC.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
Debaser : 11/22/2021 10:30 am : link
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Or, we can ask Colt McCoy his thoughts…


Colt McCoy is obviously just one of another long list of backup QBs that could give Jones a run for his money. He played well against a better Seahawks team last year. His numbers were not great but he made the throws when they counted.
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Angel Eyes : 11/22/2021 10:31 am : link
In comment 15460477 Debaser said:
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Or, we can ask Colt McCoy his thoughts…




Colt McCoy is obviously just one of another long list of backup QBs that could give Jones a run for his money. He played well against a better Seahawks team last year. His numbers were not great but he made the throws when they counted.

If he's better than Jones, why didn't we keep him?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
Debaser : 11/22/2021 11:29 am : link
In comment 15460480 Angel Eyes said:
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Or, we can ask Colt McCoy his thoughts…




Colt McCoy is obviously just one of another long list of backup QBs that could give Jones a run for his money. He played well against a better Seahawks team last year. His numbers were not great but he made the throws when they counted.


If he's better than Jones, why didn't we keep him?


Never said he was better. I just think the vast majority of BBIers have a pumped up view of Jones. He fits right in with many of the leagues back ups.

Let me ask you this -- do you really have faith in Gettel's ability to evaluate talent? At this point we are sort of stuck with him. What have you seen in Jones that indicates he is top level starting QB talent?
Who has a pumped up view of Jones?  
Johnny5 : 11/22/2021 12:23 pm : link
The most I have seen in his defense is that we haven't been healthy and our blocking pretty much sucks without Gates and Thomas. I don't see anyone saying he is some great QB and just stifled by those things, but just that it's tough to fully evaluate him or anyone on offense based on that.

It's ok for people to be optimistic based on those factors improving. Just as it's OK for you to think he sucks and will never be good.

The thing that really phucquing BLOWS? Is that we have to see 4 or 5 of you swoop in proclaiming how much he sucks for 150,000 posts in every G*d*mn thread. I mean we get it. But holy shit! Enough on EVERY friggen thread already.
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