Thomas, Skura, Price, Hernandez and Solder! I don’t get what the coaches see in him? Is he really better then Peart? Is it that they feel they need an experienced lineman in there?! I’m sure Peart will see his share Of plays, but damn!
BUCS with Brady in a Monday Night Football game. I hope I end up eating crow, but beating the GOAT in his house on a Nationally televised game after two losses! That would be astronomically huge!
DJ is 0-7 in prime time games and 0fer wearing the color rush uniform. Can he change that narrative?!
then they get the worst team in the NFL over the past 4 years coming into their building on Monday night. There is no way we were not going to get crushed tonight.
“ We're going to put a product on the field that the people of this city and region are going to be proud of because this team will represent this area”
misses way too many reads for a 3rd year guy who was that of as a very cerebral quarterback coming out of college.
I'm also not sure why Griese (and others) refer to him as a young quarterback who Garrett shouldn't let him make a decision on 3rd and 14. Take the ball out of his hands.
He's in his 3rd year. If you still have to take the decisions out of his hands then you need a new quarterback.
I dont agree with Griese at all on that, but it's interesting the way others look at Jones.
they drive. Toney has a beat on man, and Golladay was wide open too. Offensive line was actually ok on that drive. We need better QB play (along with a defense that has a pulse) to have a shot tonight.
The game commentators just called it out- Jones missed two open receivers on back to back plays, never coming off his first read. These are the things that are not quantifiable, but limit Jones’ upside as a qb.
Only decent thing about is listening to Peyt and Eli and Parcells.
For those of us who want some serious changes after the season is over... we NEED a few embarrassing blowouts on national TV. John Mara cannot use injuries as an excuse for this game.
Only decent thing about is listening to Peyt and Eli and Parcells.
For those of us who want some serious changes after the season is over... we NEED a few embarrassing blowouts on national TV. John Mara cannot use injuries as an excuse for this game.
John Mara is just going to request the league implement a rule where the opposing team can't score too many points against the Giants
They immediately called rush 3 and drop 8 before they even broke the huddle. The regular cast was probably busy talking about what happened 4 plays ago.
or you are going to get creamed. The offense is the main problem,
not the defense.
Are you nuts or you just have a hard on for shitting on jones. Seriously dude you have an agenda and I give you props for sticking to it even on game threads as the Bucs put together a 15 play drive
Idk if this is serious but he broke through on a 3 man rush less than 2 seconds. Your nuts if you truly believe he should avoid that and clearly never played football in your life
hernandez wont be a starting G anywhere in teh NFL next year
3 and outs against Brady with no rest? JONES simply doesn’t make enough plays and who knows how many plays he misses without the announcers pointing them out to us.
two high safety look is just going to wear out the defense by the middle of the third quarter. Brady is more than happy to dink and dunk and go underneath or in the flat.
Hopefully more figure out we need a defense heavy draft.
We need line help. Whether it's OL or DL at this point is immaterial. Thing is that it's easier to find a pass rush specialist than it is to find another foundational OL piece
He really hasn’t. He has 2.5 sacks vs the panthers backup tackle in scrub time. Otherwise he’s blown off the ball every snap against the run and doesn’t have much to offer as a pass rusher yet
rushing three most plays. You aren't going to generate much pass rush under those circumstances. As someone said, Graham would apparently prefer to die a death of a thousand cuts.
He really hasn’t. He has 2.5 sacks vs the panthers backup tackle in scrub time. Otherwise he’s blown off the ball every snap against the run and doesn’t have much to offer as a pass rusher yet
He really hasn’t. He has 2.5 sacks vs the panthers backup tackle in scrub time. Otherwise he’s blown off the ball every snap against the run and doesn’t have much to offer as a pass rusher yet
Giants have close to no chance of stopping Tampa outside of the red zone aside from a broken play fluke tipped ball or something like that. Giants need to use all four downs each time on offense.
wonder if Judge is actually watching what's going on on the field. He is so remarkably conservative with a team that isn't good enough to play everything conservatively. They need to steal possessions and keep the ball
That Jones doesn’t deserve some criticism but that stuff kills this offense. He put the ball right one the money to toney to pick up a third down and he lets the defense knock it out if his hands
and I get he rightfully has no confidence in his OC, QB & OL. But he can go at the end of the year too. I've had enough of him talking like Lombardi and coaching like Fassel.
and I get he rightfully has no confidence in his OC, QB & OL. But he can go at the end of the year too. I've had enough of him talking like Lombardi and coaching like Fassel.
I like Judge, but Fassel got to a super bowl. He ain’t there yet.
and I get he rightfully has no confidence in his OC, QB & OL. But he can go at the end of the year too. I've had enough of him talking like Lombardi and coaching like Fassel.
Barkley is the most over rated played in football. Does nothing well or even average and is a net negative on the field but he is treated as if he is some euperstar the Giants are desperately missing
had a chance to answer and Daniel Jones just does not have it.
Yeah how dare he drop a perfectly thrown ball?
The pass took way too long to get to Toney
Absolute clownshow take
You can watch it for yourself. You can’t lob an out right like that. He throws that on a rope the corner doesn’t have a chance to even knock it out. Sure Toney should have held on, but multiple things are allowed to exist at once. Drop - ( New Window )
Barkley is the most over rated played in football. Does nothing well or even average and is a net negative on the field but he is treated as if he is some euperstar the Giants are desperately missing
This every single time. He's a gadget player, we need to use him like one.
had a chance to answer and Daniel Jones just does not have it.
Yeah how dare he drop a perfectly thrown ball?
The pass took way too long to get to Toney
Absolute clownshow take
You can watch it for yourself. You can’t lob an out right like that. He throws that on a rope the corner doesn’t have a chance to even knock it out. Sure Toney should have held on, but multiple things are allowed to exist at once. Drop - ( New Window )
Knowing ONE READ Jones when we see the 22 there will be like 2 receivers downfield wide open.
Again, it’s because Judge has no clue what he’s doing and doesn’t play to win football games in 2021. He plays to figure things out during the game instead of win them.
killing the D. They are keeping this pathetic offense in the game.
Dude 1 punt. If it wasnt for the hold and the drop int by evans we down by at least 2 scores if not more
LOL - we gave up almost 300 yds and 17 pts in one half. Should have been 20 or 24 but the Bucs shot themselves in the foot with that holding. D stunk. Offense wasn't good either. 1
wants to play football anymore. He’s stopping in his tracks before any contact.
Yeah, I've seen enough. Booker and Gallman were better running backs. Start moving him around the offense and line him up in the slot. Quit pretending he's a running back.
The Giants offense cannot play the Giants defense. Seriously the offense is no worse than the defense. Horrible job by both coordinators and the head coach.
and Gano were our best players. Love at least made one nice play.
Graham's cover two schemes are allowing Brady to pick us apart underneath and in the flats, and will exhaust the defense. It's also why there's no pass rush. We rush so few that on the few occasions we actually get near Brady he can safely step up knowing that no defender will be in front of him.
Aside from the FG drive we haven't done anything on offense.
Barkley is a liability at this point. I'd rather see Booker or even Brightwell.
I think I'm going to expload. The guy is a pussy! No toughness whatsoever. Glorified third down back. can't pick up yards unless you give him a whole a mile wide. Worst draft pick ever.
wants to play football anymore. He’s stopping in his tracks before any contact.
Agree. Sad but true and I feel bad for him. But can we please play Booker the second half now
Cmon now. That’s a tremendously bad take. Barkley is a shell of himself but we’re not benching him for Booker, a career backup.
Give Barkley a couple weeks. The guy is coming off an ACL and an ankle injury. Of course he is not pedal to the floor just yet.
He has three carries for ten yards. Get Booker in there and see what he can do. Barkley isn’t working tonight. Either he is hurt or stinks LW whatever, but it isn’t working tonight and we need to win.
RE: RE: I’d like to see something out of Kadarius Toney in the second half
The Jaguars at least have a future. The Jets might have a QB who knows. The Lions at least know they're bad. Mara still thinks the Giants aren't awful.
He thinks he’s snake bitten. Runs like it’s just a matter of time until another lower body injury. Doing everything in his power to avoid it. And it’s costing him his explosiveness and game breaking ability that made him so special.
wants to play football anymore. He’s stopping in his tracks before any contact.
Agree. Sad but true and I feel bad for him. But can we please play Booker the second half now
Cmon now. That’s a tremendously bad take. Barkley is a shell of himself but we’re not benching him for Booker, a career backup.
Give Barkley a couple weeks. The guy is coming off an ACL and an ankle injury. Of course he is not pedal to the floor just yet.
He has three carries for ten yards. Get Booker in there and see what he can do. Barkley isn’t working tonight. Either he is hurt or stinks LW whatever, but it isn’t working tonight and we need to win.
You say 3 carries for 10 yards like that sample size proves something?!?!?
I want them to play better but they don’t look like they can physically or mentally do it. It’s like a joke why so many high picks and expensive free agents are actually competitive.
How can anyone play that bad and still be in a game? Luck I think..
GM, QB, RB, OC...the whole group. So tired of watching the same stupid football over and over again!!!!!
news flash.. most of those people will be back next year. So, if you are tired of watching this group, then I suggest you find a hobby that can keep you occupied on Sundays
He thinks he’s snake bitten. Runs like it’s just a matter of time until another lower body injury. Doing everything in his power to avoid it. And it’s costing him his explosiveness and game breaking ability that made him so special.
play calling from Garrett. Dude looks like is holding in a fart every time they show him on the sidelines.
Jason Garret sucks no doubt. But Jones has options, he just locks on to his pre snap read and cannot get out of his head to feel the play. He is just not very dynamic he is so robotic in everything he does.
You can’t see that.? Do you see the team snaps? We ha ent had the ball. Jones is 11/15. With a drop and like 3-4 throw aways. No fumbles, no interceptions no bad passes, ans as many yards rushing as Barkley. Yea he could hit any receiver he wants if he had 10 seconds per snap like the Goat. Yes his passer rating is higher than him also. Blame our no pressures DL
Barkley strikes me as a guy who's afraid to get hit
When he sees a hole he goes, but when he doesn't he is basically bracing for impact rather than trying to run into someone. I don't know if the coaches told him to protect himself, of if its in his head, but its obvious. It could be both him and the coaches just want to get through this post-ACL season without injury
There will be no halftime adjustments. Two weeks to prepare and this is what this shit coaching staff came up with. They should just leave Judge in Tampa.
I want them to play better but they don’t look like they can physically or mentally do it. It’s like a joke why so many high picks and expensive free agents are actually competitive.
How can anyone play that bad and still be in a game? Luck I think..
4 out of 5 O lineman shouldn’t even be in the NFL
THATS why they suck
RE: Barkley strikes me as a guy who's afraid to get hit
When he sees a hole he goes, but when he doesn't he is basically bracing for impact rather than trying to run into someone. I don't know if the coaches told him to protect himself, of if its in his head, but its obvious. It could be both him and the coaches just want to get through this post-ACL season without injury
He’s Reggie Bush but more injury prone. Same hype, same result.
When he sees a hole he goes, but when he doesn't he is basically bracing for impact rather than trying to run into someone. I don't know if the coaches told him to protect himself, of if its in his head, but its obvious. It could be both him and the coaches just want to get through this post-ACL season without injury
He always did this, it just seems like it's a bigger problem than ever. If someone hasn't paved a highway for him he hesitates.
When he sees a hole he goes, but when he doesn't he is basically bracing for impact rather than trying to run into someone. I don't know if the coaches told him to protect himself, of if its in his head, but its obvious. It could be both him and the coaches just want to get through this post-ACL season without injury
They cannot entertain extending him. To any rational person he’s a sunk cost. But Mara is so married to him I think him getting extended is absolutely a possibility. He’s not a good player
You can’t see that.? Do you see the team snaps? We ha ent had the ball. Jones is 11/15. With a drop and like 3-4 throw aways. No fumbles, no interceptions no bad passes, ans as many yards rushing as Barkley. Yea he could hit any receiver he wants if he had 10 seconds per snap like the Goat. Yes his passer rating is higher than him also. Blame our no pressures DL
We will what DJ does on the opening drive. He does nothing good as well.
how many times can you say the same thing over and over and over again? We all think we need replacements. Now, do you have anything insightful to contribute?
That play was doomed from the second 3rd down ended. Indecision by the play call/staff. Offense has to sprint to the line. Play call is awful, route combination with a practice squad TE and Barkley in the flat. Both guys covered, defense not fooled, and pressure means there is no where for Jones to go.
This team was not ready to play this game. They might as well be
Barkley gets his traditional 1 yard on first down. Jones misses a throw on second down and we complete a pass before the sticks on third down. How many times have we seen this movie???????
He’s had 4 carries and 3 of them he had no chance. I’m not sure prime Barry Sanders would fare too well with 4 carries against this DL with this current OL
He’s had 4 carries and 3 of them he had no chance. I’m not sure prime Barry Sanders would fare too well with 4 carries against this DL with this current OL
These guys just fail to execute. Nothing we do looks smooth or easy. The calls at the line take too long, changing plays there while play clock runs down creating last second snaps and chances for penalties. Even when we do run the play it seems so discombobulated and ragged.
Add to all of this just an odd feel that Jones just doesn't make the plays when needed. Truly sucks to see where we are at.
He’s had 4 carries and 3 of them he had no chance. I’m not sure prime Barry Sanders would fare too well with 4 carries against this DL with this current OL
- because three years in and he can't pick up a blitz
- he makes a jump move before running forward
- he goes down way too easily
- we took him 2nd overall. for a RB, he should be a superstar. you can get a better RB later in the draft or in free agency.
maybe he only gets 3 carries a half because he can't move the pile, not the other way around.
RE: notice how Brady comes back and makes up for the penalty
So DG can save face from his bonehead decision to trade for him in the first place.
Williams has had a good year
Agreed I wont allow anyone on this board to say LW has no performed. He has. He is the only one out there pushing but he is double and triple teamed. Watch the game please.
Jones has improved to the point where he no longer makes
on every single play. We have not gotten close to him even once. Most plays, we get no one within 5 yards of him. Whether we rush 3.4 or 5, it doesn't matter.
his brother, but everyone else should go. This franchise needs an enema in the worst way.
This is really what it comes down to. Everything else is meaningless. Until Mara hires someone competent and gets out of their way , this team will never be good again with all the nepotism in the front office
is on Graham. It might have been defensible to start out in a cover two shell at the beginning of the game, but not after the first drive. And yet he's still in it. Brady is answering that defense the way a high school QB would with passes into the middle behind the LBs and in front of the safeties and with dump offs, screens, and quick outs.
He’s had 4 carries and 3 of them he had no chance. I’m not sure prime Barry Sanders would fare too well with 4 carries against this DL with this current OL
- because three years in and he can't pick up a blitz
- he makes a jump move before running forward
- he goes down way too easily
- we took him 2nd overall. for a RB, he should be a superstar. you can get a better RB later in the draft or in free agency.
maybe he only gets 3 carries a half because he can't move the pile, not the other way around.
Derrick Henry went 45th overall, Giants came away with studs like, checks notes, Eli Apple and Sterling Shephard ahead of him. Michael Thomas went 47th that year
RE: RE: Jones has improved to the point where he no longer makes
So DG can save face from his bonehead decision to trade for him in the first place.
Williams has had a good year
Agreed I wont allow anyone on this board to say LW has no performed. He has. He is the only one out there pushing but he is double and triple teamed. Watch the game please.
Yup, Williams is not the problem. Our edge players and LBs suck balls
Well, we identify as losers. Can’t cover, tackling horrid, no running game, QB who just isn’t sure of what to do with the ball.
If he’s in awe of Brady he should’ve bought a ticket!
Garbage football!
They explained why that touchdown worked. Giants doubled the inside guys and single covered the outside guys. Wrong coverage But, remember it’s all Jones fault.
RE: RE: RE: Jones has improved to the point where he no longer makes
disaster mistakes. He also makes nothing happen on the field.
ding ding ding
Can't argue, but Jason Garrett and Judge need to be held accountable too. The whole offense is garbage. Not just Jones
I still have no idea what Jones ceiling can possibly be but i would really like to see what he can do with an actual NFl Quality RB, OL and an OC who knows what they are doing. Sadly, i dont think that will ever happen
Serviceable, he can’t block to save his life, I’m jealous of Elliott. He’s a much better player
Pollard is a much better player. Barkley's not a RB. At all. I think more people are seeing that. It's just not working and Booker needs to go back to the #1 guy.
disaster mistakes. He also makes nothing happen on the field.
How badly would Brady’s body be splattered all over the field if he played behind the Giant offensive line?
So just have zero expectations of anything for jones? What are we going to do, ask for a do-over on the rookie contract and take another 3-4 years to see where this goes?
disaster mistakes. He also makes nothing happen on the field.
ding ding ding
Can't argue, but Jason Garrett and Judge need to be held accountable too. The whole offense is garbage. Not just Jones
I still have no idea what Jones ceiling can possibly be but i would really like to see what he can do with an actual NFl Quality RB, OL and an OC who knows what they are doing. Sadly, i dont think that will ever happen
we don't know what his ceiling is, but we just saw what the floor is
And at this rate it seems the only reason we didn't screw up that pick was because it was impossible to screw up, all four big tackles in that draft are good.
Seriously misses golladay wide open as usual been doing it since he got here . throws it right yo 89 who is as big as my fridge and wearing the wrong jersey
on the scoreboard near the end of the 3rd Quarter. Can’t get the ball to playmakers in space. Coaching stinks, offensive line stinks. When does this nonsense stop?
Jones has gotten used to throwing to offensive linemen.
Yes there was pressure coming but he saw it (we all saw it). Turn and dump it to Golladay, he was right in front of him. Or Barkley, you know where he is, or throw it away.
I actually think it is more than that. John Mara wants to believe. He wants an inner circle connection that he can feel comfortable with. He would rather hire, draft or sign someone who has been recommended by someone who is trusted.
Now, I get that sometimes that makes sense.. but he relies too heavily on that. Why do so many people have to be tied to the organization in some way? Garrett a perfect example.
and the list of holes in the Giants roster is very long. But a team can't win with this QB play. This game changes my mind. If the Giants don't think any of the QBs coming out is worth a top pick sign a journeyman. Play Glennon. He can't do worse. This kind of performance on national TV gets people on most NFL teams fired at the end of the season. But the Giant aren't most NFL teams.
There is zero excuse why he is not fired after the game tonight and give Kitchens a shot to see if he can do any better until the end of the season. There is nothing to lose
I truly think they downgraded when they went from Shurmur's staff to this. And I thought it was literally impossible to get worse than Shurmur's staff.
and the list of holes in the Giants roster is very long. But a team can't win with this QB play. This game changes my mind. If the Giants don't think any of the QBs coming out is worth a top pick sign a journeyman. Play Glennon. He can't do worse. This kind of performance on national TV gets people on most NFL teams fired at the end of the season. But the Giant aren't most NFL teams.
You bitch about Jones every week how does it change your mind now
I actually think it is more than that. John Mara wants to believe. He wants an inner circle connection that he can feel comfortable with. He would rather hire, draft or sign someone who has been recommended by someone who is trusted.
Now, I get that sometimes that makes sense.. but he relies too heavily on that. Why do so many people have to be tied to the organization in some way? Garrett a perfect example.
I still like Toney, like any WR he needs someone to throw it to him
What? Toney has been open a lot? When?
All game. You just can't tell because he's not getting the ball. Hell he had the safety beat for a potential TD in the 1st quarter but Jones threw a slant to Slayton. The announcers even circled it
the possibility that the Giants suck everywhere. Head Coach and staff, down to the 'key' players on the roster. Two things can be true. With the Giants many things can suck at the same time.
RE: I think the Giants will be in on Russell Wilson..
I actually think it is more than that. John Mara wants to believe. He wants an inner circle connection that he can feel comfortable with. He would rather hire, draft or sign someone who has been recommended by someone who is trusted.
Now, I get that sometimes that makes sense.. but he relies too heavily on that. Why do so many people have to be tied to the organization in some way? Garrett a perfect example.
perfectly put
Agreed, it looks like losing is the only way to purge a change.
who are part of the problem. Right now, two of the biggest problems with this team are Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley. Neither are guys you need to worry about (unless you are a Giants fan.)
The offensive line is a mess. There is no pass rush. The money spent on the back end is worthless if the QB consistently has 6 seconds or longer to throw.
Gettleman failed to put together a competitive roster with poor drafts and poor free agent signings. He needs to go and this team needs a full reset.
The problem with this half-assed, conservative offense is Jones
doesn’t get to show us what he can and cannot do. Send all the playmakers out, see if he can survive this offensive line. I’d rather see 5 great plays against 10 to 20 average or WTF plays rather this vanilla bullshit 10-point a game crap.
Wilson makes no sense for this roster. You trade for Wilson when you have a complete team and need a QB to put it over the top. Not when you have no OL and no Pass rush and no LB
neither team had anything to play for i guess pats had the record ,and the giants came out like it was the super bowl. what are these bush league mfers doing
Wilson makes no sense for this roster. You trade for Wilson when you have a complete team and need a QB to put it over the top. Not when you have no OL and no Pass rush and no LB
Who the F are the schedule makers and wtf do they constantly put the Giants on prime time! It’s embarrassing, especially when they have not been good for 6 years now.
and he's not helped by his coordinator or his offensive line. So the offense is done and dusted.
If I'm Judge i sacrifice Garrett for your own sake like TC did with Hufnagel and Fassel with Payton.
Yeah I will stick with what I said a long time ago that Garrett is a Mara hire and I'm not sure Judge even has the power to fire him even if he wanted to .
IF he does have the power have though he should be fired after the game tonight
Are you fucking crazy? How about that hero ball play effectively ending the game
This fame was over before it started. Brady can score on us wenever he wants or needs. If we came back in this game if brady has ball at end of game he would win it.
He makes mistakes he’s got to fix, no doubt but when you go down the list of offensive issues the Giants have Jones isn’t in the top 10. Yet for some here he’s the only complaint
RE: RE: Is there a team left on the schedule that the Giants can beat?
Defense can't get pressure, and Brady is killing them. Offense can't do shit, and in the rare moments they do, they stab themselves in the back at the earliest possible convenience.
I’ve been taking a wait and see opinion on this team
It’s quite possible that this team ends up with two top 5 picks this year!
After tonight its 3-7.
I think they’ll probably go about 5-2 from here out. Losses to Dallas and Chargers. They are better than their opponent in the other 5 games.
We’re playing a super bowl favorite and getting beat. Yep.
The Eagles and WFT and Dolphins and Bears are not that.
What does it matter if the only teams that they can hang with are other bad teams. All it does is delude fans into thinking things are getting fixed when they're obviously not.
They came into this game off a bye and looked lifeless and boring. And they played that way.
is worse, the OL or Jones? You could legitimately answer either one. Jones is running for his life on every play but he makes terrible decisions. Some of his locking in on receivers is likely because he doesn't trust his OL to give him time to go through more than one maybe two reads. But there have been plays where he's had time and missed receivers or made bad throws.
He makes mistakes he’s got to fix, no doubt but when you go down the list of offensive issues the Giants have Jones isn’t in the top 10. Yet for some here he’s the only complaint
it is just the point. rebuilds Start with QB changes. you don't switch coaches yet again to wait and see on a qb that is still playing hero ball and fucking up
From a successful organization and give him the keys to make all decisions. Judge, Saquon, Jones whomever he wants to keep or dump is fine be by me. We got 5 picks in the first 3 rds. Let a competent guy make them.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Is there a team left on the schedule that the Giants can beat?
after over two weeks to prepare. He’s now 6-17. For some reason, he gets to come back next year? What makes matters worse is that we’ll compromise the most important hire of the next decade by only hiring a GM that’ll work with Judge and want to keep Jones.
Thou shall not throw more than 4 yards down field.
it's 2 deep safeties man. it is like rock paper scissors you can't do anything against that. Meanwhile brady threw a td within like 30 seconds of playing 2 deep safeties
just proved Jones isn’t a very good QB. By any measure he has been a hindrance in this game. Yes the line sucks, but he is just lost out there. Completely lost.
From a successful organization and give him the keys to make all decisions. Judge, Saquon, Jones whomever he wants to keep or dump is fine be by me. We got 5 picks in the first 3 rds. Let a competent guy make them.
And when Chris Mara disagrees with those picks? Who will we ACTUALLY pick?
just proved Jones isn’t a very good QB. By any measure he has been a hindrance in this game. Yes the line sucks, but he is just lost out there. Completely lost.
Other than Thomas...who has played well from that list? Golladay and Barkley are fucking jokes
He makes mistakes he’s got to fix, no doubt but when you go down the list of offensive issues the Giants have Jones isn’t in the top 10. Yet for some here he’s the only complaint
it is just the point. rebuilds Start with QB changes. you don't switch coaches yet again to wait and see on a qb that is still playing hero ball and fucking up
Rebuilds should start with the biggest problems first. The Giants literally cannot block anyone
That’s a perfectly fine pocket, and Jones literally nails a defender in the head with the ball.
You honestly think that was a perfectly fine pocket?
its concerning how little people know about football
It’s honestly why I don’t visit here half as much as I used to. Everyone’s got their little agenda of who they want to blame, and every post has to be shoehorned into jamming that peg in that hole.
Jones probably sucks, but let’s not act like this offensive line is any good. It hasn’t been decent for many years.
RE: Looks Like Jones Last Int Was Tipped At The LOS
They need to clean house in the organization. Top to bottom
I’m coming to that realization, but Mara will give Judge one more year IMO. He already indicated that he’s a young coach that will need time and so I don’t see a 3rd coach getting canned after two years. GM I think goes and Garrett most likely. New GM will get the option of keeping the QB or getting a new one, I’m sure.
It’s honestly why I don’t visit here half as much as I used to. Everyone’s got their little agenda of who they want to blame, and every post has to be shoehorned into jamming that peg in that hole.
Jones probably sucks, but let’s not act like this offensive line is any good. It hasn’t been decent for many years.
No agenda or shoehorning here amigo. I think the Giants are dreadful at every level.
But I do believe there are two dozen NFL QBs who would have stepped into the clean part of the pocket and not thrown the ball directly to a defender.
The thing to come back to is that the Giants have 10 points, 7 of which were handed to them by a turnover.
It's not just Jones. The line and Barkley also suck.
Jones is just in over his head. He's a backup.
Barkley has talent, he's injury prone, and he's been used incorrectly.
Barkley fucking sucks. He can go be talented and blessed somewhere else. Completely forgettable player, just like every other guy on this roster.
He can go for all I care. I hated the pick, but he is a unique player and can still be great with the right team. My disgust for the pick and his failures here doesn't shade my objectivity about the player. Jones is a much bigger problem than Barkley.
Why would Russell Wilson want to take in that kind of downgrade though?
This team doesn’t have the cap space right now for Wilson, but what makes you think Wilson would be any better then Jones in this offense. His own team in Seattle has only won 3 games.
They need to clean house in the organization. Top to bottom
I’m coming to that realization, but Mara will give Judge one more year IMO. He already indicated that he’s a young coach that will need time and so I don’t see a 3rd coach getting canned after two years. GM I think goes and Garrett most likely. New GM will get the option of keeping the QB or getting a new one, I’m sure.
This half measure stuff has to stop. I can't see why Judge deserves a 3rd year, but screw it. I'd rather keep Gettleman/Chris Mara one more year if the bottom can fall out and it'll prove once and for all that the entire front office needs to be fired down to the secretaries.
is totally overrated, injury prone, and throws backbreaking INTs, but the Colts have won three in a row and four of their last five. Why? Their OL is one of the best in the league.
two downs tonight with mistakes. The Bears pick is nice, but I’d rather just have Slater right now. Either way, we need a new front office starting from scratch.
They need to clean house in the organization. Top to bottom
I’m coming to that realization, but Mara will give Judge one more year IMO. He already indicated that he’s a young coach that will need time and so I don’t see a 3rd coach getting canned after two years. GM I think goes and Garrett most likely. New GM will get the option of keeping the QB or getting a new one, I’m sure.
This half measure stuff has to stop. I can't see why Judge deserves a 3rd year, but screw it. I'd rather keep Gettleman/Chris Mara one more year if the bottom can fall out and it'll prove once and for all that the entire front office needs to be fired down to the secretaries.
If the last 10 years haven't made them see the light...one more season won't.
It’s honestly why I don’t visit here half as much as I used to. Everyone’s got their little agenda of who they want to blame, and every post has to be shoehorned into jamming that peg in that hole.
Jones probably sucks, but let’s not act like this offensive line is any good. It hasn’t been decent for many years.
No agenda or shoehorning here amigo. I think the Giants are dreadful at every level.
But I do believe there are two dozen NFL QBs who would have stepped into the clean part of the pocket and not thrown the ball directly to a defender.
It’s kinda hard to play quarterback when 3/5ths of your starting offensive line shouldn’t even be in the league.
When your opponent can get pressure with 4 rushers, you cannot scheme around that.
It’s honestly why I don’t visit here half as much as I used to. Everyone’s got their little agenda of who they want to blame, and every post has to be shoehorned into jamming that peg in that hole.
Jones probably sucks, but let’s not act like this offensive line is any good. It hasn’t been decent for many years.
No agenda or shoehorning here amigo. I think the Giants are dreadful at every level.
But I do believe there are two dozen NFL QBs who would have stepped into the clean part of the pocket and not thrown the ball directly to a defender.
It’s kinda hard to play quarterback when 3/5ths of your starting offensive line shouldn’t even be in the league.
When your opponent can get pressure with 4 rushers, you cannot scheme around that.
It’s also hard when you’re not good at playing QB.
I don’t care how outta shape Isaiah Wilson is- he has to be better than Hernandez. Now we know why Shane Lemieux got more playing time last year when Will came off COVID protocol.
But damn...he isn't worth near what we paid him. Detroit let him go for a reason
They et him go because they knew they sucked and he was going to want to be paid like a free agent 1000 yard guy on a team that isn't going anywhere. This team isnt either but haas 3o mil less in cap space. This team is going to win the Super bowl this year iguess . or that is what they thought
RE: RE: RE: Let’s not act like the OL was this bad all game either
Get some defense! Let's freaking go Giants!
Because they will be rotating Peart with Thomas, IMHO. He is likely to see time at RT, too.
No way Thomas is in game shape.
LFG GeeeeeeeeeeeMEN!!!
He's got a decent supporting cast tonight. Let's go. It's time to put it all together.
DJ is 0-7 in prime time games and 0fer wearing the color rush uniform. Can he change that narrative?!
Ugh.
lol
I was right. Yay me :(
Let’s go O!
No. But it certainly seemed that way.
Agreed 😂
Kicking off is always the right decision. Regardless of what happened that drive. The defense can't hide, they have to play.
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Nuts.
No. But it certainly seemed that way.
Every play but one I think
Love went the wrong way.
Pathetic!
Yup. And they get blown off the edge on running plays
they will take it and not even a 3rd down.
Patrick Graham gonna get schooled tonight
It really is a tradition unlike any other.
So I guess the tri-state area sucks then?
I noticed this too. Going down way too easily.
that's what was so clever about that play!
he would say.."Daniel can run faster than I can"
Run forward. Right?!?
everyone knows Engram does not block.
Yes, I saw that
Yup.
...a bad play
We try to matriculate down the field and it gets harder as you get closer.
Gano is our MVP.
Well... is the same roster and same coaches. You tuned in tonight expecting to see a different team?
Oy vey.
Statistically they are.
Be proud of what’s on the field! Lol! Douche
Byron Leftwich isn't calling the plays, we all know Brady calls the plays.
Chargers would laugh at us..
I'm also not sure why Griese (and others) refer to him as a young quarterback who Garrett shouldn't let him make a decision on 3rd and 14. Take the ball out of his hands.
He's in his 3rd year. If you still have to take the decisions out of his hands then you need a new quarterback.
I dont agree with Griese at all on that, but it's interesting the way others look at Jones.
I care. Can I be QB of the Giants and make tens of millions.
Seriously though, at least we got 3. Just need the defense to stiffen up here and we’re right back in the game!
Let’s go defense!
Yes that was god awful.
Just go back and look at the plays Tampa ran vs what we ran. Zero imagination
This is what they came up with after 2 weeks of self scouting?
Absolutely. Criminal.
Toney? I'm not as bothered, he was pressured.
Yep.
Instead he locks onto a wall covered option and throws it away essentially. Jones fucking stinks.
Giants redzone offense would have to improve drastically to get to poor.
Gano making up for me taking Saqoun in fantasy
They have a first round pick, 18mil a year #1 WR, and even Slayton, and Collin Johnson is the guy they have in the game?
The Toney miss was big. We got the 1st on the Slayton PI, but there was a possible TD with Toney
Brady is 8/8.
This is gross
Cant fool Brady like they did with Mahomes, Darnold, Carr etc.
He will eat them alive if they keep playing this soft zone
32-37, 306 yards, 5TDs 0 picks
paying 15M a year for CBs to play zone. Weird.
For those of us who want some serious changes after the season is over... we NEED a few embarrassing blowouts on national TV. John Mara cannot use injuries as an excuse for this game.
So fucking predictable.
That guy is no good at all.
Cant fool Brady like they did with Mahomes, Darnold, Carr etc.
He will eat them alive if they keep playing this soft zone
32-37, 306 yards, 5TDs 0 picks
where do you think the 5 incompletions are going to come from?
That guy is no good at all.
Shelton looks like he has two extra people stuffed in his pants.
That guy is no good at all.
He's been getting walked off the line of scrimmage since game 1. Total bust of a signing.
We let the wrong ones go.
and proceeded to play 10 yards behind the line on it.
"eventually the QB will make a mistake" only works when you can pass rush.
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Only decent thing about is listening to Peyt and Eli and Parcells.
For those of us who want some serious changes after the season is over... we NEED a few embarrassing blowouts on national TV. John Mara cannot use injuries as an excuse for this game.
John Mara is just going to request the league implement a rule where the opposing team can't score too many points against the Giants
That’s how we play, we won’t get beat deep but we play not
To get blown out not win
Bend but don’t break sucks! Are you fucking kidding me! Brady runs for a first down!
Soft bunch of pussies
not the defense.
Maybe a high school team.
not the defense.
WTF?
not the defense.
No, they both Suck!
Coaching!
“Played perfect coverage in the secondary” is another way to comment on that play.
Why would Eli ask about a guy he probably hardly knows
Brady had to throw it away. Don’t let the defense distract you from the piss poor offense.
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Good Lord. We lucked out.
“Played perfect coverage in the secondary” is another way to comment on that play.
Can't we at least give them credit when they do cover lol..
They rushed three.
You were disappointed by the absolute perfect coverage in the secondary? Should they have rushed more guys and not covered the secondary instead?
Anybody please..
they dropped 8 into coverage and forced an incompletion
Detroit might have that title right now. Giants are very close however.
Didn’t have 2 weeks to prepare for Brady?
This game will be over by the end of the 3rd Quarter
But no one will be surprised by that
I think he looks pretty good.
not the defense.
Are you nuts or you just have a hard on for shitting on jones. Seriously dude you have an agenda and I give you props for sticking to it even on game threads as the Bucs put together a 15 play drive
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Good Lord. We lucked out.
“Played perfect coverage in the secondary” is another way to comment on that play.
Can't we at least give them credit when they do cover lol..
They rushed three.
Brady could have run it in.
What a coward…
This team's biggest problem by miles is the offense, and specifically the passing game. That's part Jones and part OL.
I cannot stand it....does it all the time.
Yea.
Embrace the suck
series.
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Parcells doesn't look good. I know he's 80, but he looks pretty big in the gut slouching. He still seems with it mentally.
I think he looks pretty good.
+1
The def3nse cant stop a fuckin nosevleed right now.
Ol is hot trash tho. Rush 3 jones gets smacked
No way, the whole middle collapsed. That’s on the line
I mean it wasn't good, lol.
The anthesis of Chris Snee.
Idk if this is serious but he broke through on a 3 man rush less than 2 seconds. Your nuts if you truly believe he should avoid that and clearly never played football in your life
every year half our OL starts 16 games....never starts another game in teh NFL the next year...
Solder, Price, Hernandez, Skura....the refusal of the coaching staff to give other people chances is why they never find people.....
It’s the Giants way!
Are you Hernandez's brother?
Yea but only ELi can say that. He was a jet a patriot and what else now?
Some people just have an agenda. Your some people.
Hernandez got fuckin embarrassed.
You see how ling brady had to throw on a 3 man rush? He didnt have to move
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Just fucking run ahead. Stop looking for defenders.
I cannot stand it....does it all the time.
He pussy foots it, as LT would say.
Compare that to the same rush 3 the Giants did
Tom had all day and still couldn’t find anyone open
now give the QB 2 seconds and it’s a disaster.
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only 3 rushers, move around the pocket
No way, the whole middle collapsed. That’s on the line
Jones could have moved. as soon as he saw the push..
Great moment!
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'Once a Giant'.
Yea but only ELi can say that. He was a jet a patriot and what else now?
Not that I did not wish Eli went to another team
What the hell is he doing? Is he going to fake out 3 defenders? Catch the ball and go forward and get close to the first down marker
Awful pick
That 2018 draft class set this team back another 5 years.
I hate his jump steps and juking.
Get a TD.
Seems reasonable lol
HATE HATE HATE
HELL YEAH!
Lol Andrew Thomas
Barkley almost got Jones killed with his non block.
Lol Andrew Thomas
LOL
Yes he does! Golladay and Toney have 0 TDs this year!
Barkley almost got Jones killed with his non block.
Barkley totally whiffed
Can we extend him right away omg
Right!
Yikes. Watched that on TiVo at the break.
Let's see Booker.
Maybe if he wasn't being pressured? LOL...actually a great throw from DJ.
Agreed.. he has been reminding me a lot of Dain lately
Let's see Booker.
Honestly, they should start splitting him out wide and have him run pass routes.......would really help the offense.
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TONIGHT!!!
That’s twice now.
Let's see Booker.
Agreed Barkley should be Willy Piped at this point he is a shell of himself and clearly a liability in pass pro.
me too. I would sit Barkley for a series after that miss. He has to get proficient at blocking. it's completely unacceptable.
Best TE at least.
That’s twice now.
Either pin them or get a potential penalty.
We're only rushing three. Graham has abandoned pressure.
Us: need gadget plays to score 5 yd tds.
AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
Pass rush.
Doesn’t get any better
Can set the edge
This team is still remarkably far away from contending for anything.
No, they are not
We got them right where we want them.
So much for Graham the hot name for HC
Toney has been open quite a bit. Jones keeps going somewhere else with the ball.
He’s still a rookie and should get better.
Nobody had a clue…
He really hasn’t. He has 2.5 sacks vs the panthers backup tackle in scrub time. Otherwise he’s blown off the ball every snap against the run and doesn’t have much to offer as a pass rusher yet
We need both that’s why we’re looking at a new 5-year re-build
Or Galloday ….,
Check down Danny takes his eyes off the field as soon as he feels a rush
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Toney has been open quite a bit. Jones keeps going somewhere else with the ball.
Really? Haven't seen him open
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After a great start....
He really hasn’t. He has 2.5 sacks vs the panthers backup tackle in scrub time. Otherwise he’s blown off the ball every snap against the run and doesn’t have much to offer as a pass rusher yet
The Delta between Ojulari and Parsons.... YIKES
some kind of gator farm disaster would have helped.
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After a great start....
He really hasn’t. He has 2.5 sacks vs the panthers backup tackle in scrub time. Otherwise he’s blown off the ball every snap against the run and doesn’t have much to offer as a pass rusher yet
The Delta between Ojulari and Parsons.... YIKES
Bro, Ojulari has 5 sacks. He's just as good!
Ehh it was the right call imo, let’s got tangled
They went down because their feet got tangled up.
Don’t think there can be pass interference because of the backwards pass
people on this site really suck
feet got tangled or it was a completion for 40+ yards.
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called back?
Ehh it was the right call imo, let’s got tangled
The dB had his hand and p ulled the arm behind his back...that's why he fell.
I think there’s a good chance that was an OPI flag picked up.
To me, it looked like their feet got tangled. Good no-call
Agreed.
Maybe we go for it here.
people on this site really suck
feet got tangled or it was a completion for 40+ yards.
We'll try again next week I guess
And a fumble
First down
Bonus points for laughing.
Exactly
But it won’t be called that way
2 feet in bounds and then it looked like it was knocked out of of his hands when he was out of bounds.
That was close.
Why are you watching this and not the Manning Cast on ESPN 2
God we suck…
Barkley?
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a DPI flag picked up?
To me, it looked like their feet got tangled. Good no-call
So the refs at full speed could determine "tangled feet" vs the defender taking out a the WR's feet?
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Why are you watching this and not the Manning Cast on ESPN 2
Because I hate the cutoff
As for the PI that got picked up, forget the feet tangled. The DB had Slayton in an arm bar for about 5 yards all the way through to the ground.
Definitely. We need to find the quarterbacks that force the receivers not to be lazy in brining in a solid first down.
Last year was some kind of mirage or something. This year we're seeing why Carolina let him go. He's awful.
What’s Garrett done that’s so bad tonight? Jones Missed guys twice in the redzone. Drops on third down.
As for the PI that got picked up, forget the feet tangled. The DB had Slayton in an arm bar for about 5 yards all the way through to the ground.
I thought I saw an arm bar as well.
No time effects the abuluty for longer routes to develop. Guys like toney get separation but no time to get it if we have 2 seconds to pass.
OL and edge first two picks...
WTF? The throw was a rope.
I hate Joe Judge with an absolute passion.
As for the PI that got picked up, forget the feet tangled. The DB had Slayton in an arm bar for about 5 yards all the way through to the ground.
That's part of the fumble rule. You don't have possession unless it is two feet plus an additional football move.
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has whiffed on a lot of tackles this year.
Last year was some kind of mirage or something. This year we're seeing why Carolina let him go. He's awful.
A lot of guys seem to lose toughness after getting paid.
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To get rid of Jason Garrett?
What’s Garrett done that’s so bad tonight? Jones Missed guys twice in the redzone. Drops on third down.
Id say going 3 TEs against a team eith a shit secondary is a pretty poor plan of attack
Insane. Of all the shit you want to put on Jones...he put the ball right on Toney.
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Cements things for me, we need to look at QB. That pass was not thrown with power and allowed the defender to make a play. Just can't happen..
WTF? The throw was a rope.
No it wasn’t. It took forever to get to Toney.
ummm this is starting to look like a 42-20 game
Seriously he’s terrible.
what is it going to tak e to get you to become a patriots fan
Garrett needs to do a better job of getting Golladay and Barkley involved.
Also, let Kadarius work on crossing patterns. He can do more than catch bubble screens, out routes, and throw passes on trick plays
I hate Joe Judge with an absolute passion.
LOL I know that is what I just said to myself. I hate this coach.
Yeah how dare he drop a perfectly thrown ball?
I like Judge, but Fassel got to a super bowl. He ain’t there yet.
Fassel was way better
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had a chance to answer and Daniel Jones just does not have it.
Yeah how dare he drop a perfectly thrown ball?
On a 3 yards fucking route lol. Give me a break.
Time to move on from Jones..Done..
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had a chance to answer and Daniel Jones just does not have it.
Yeah how dare he drop a perfectly thrown ball?
The pass took way too long to get to Toney
Marpet's replacement stepped in and took Williams out of a play on his first snap.
Williams is so hot and cold. Either he gives you a great play or nothing.
This is the very best DC the Giants can find?
shut up! you need to adhere to the narrative or get cancelled
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had a chance to answer and Daniel Jones just does not have it.
Yeah how dare he drop a perfectly thrown ball?
The pass took way too long to get to Toney
Absolute clownshow take
Oline been decent. Barkley and Jones is the problem.
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To get rid of Jason Garrett?
what is it going to tak e to get you to become a patriots fan
The holding though was obvious.
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The twilight zone.. get blaming Jones for missing Galloday but how in hell does any one blame him for toney not catching that ball
I will do better
shut up! you need to adhere to the narrative or get cancelled
Bucs begging, love it!
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had a chance to answer and Daniel Jones just does not have it.
Yeah how dare he drop a perfectly thrown ball?
The pass took way too long to get to Toney
Absolute clownshow take
You can watch it for yourself. You can’t lob an out right like that. He throws that on a rope the corner doesn’t have a chance to even knock it out. Sure Toney should have held on, but multiple things are allowed to exist at once.
Drop - ( New Window )
Maybe we'll manage 100 yards in the half.
This every single time. He's a gadget player, we need to use him like one.
It’s amazing isn’t. It’s like these fans don’t know what the NFL in 2021 looks like.
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had a chance to answer and Daniel Jones just does not have it.
Yeah how dare he drop a perfectly thrown ball?
The pass took way too long to get to Toney
Absolute clownshow take
You can watch it for yourself. You can’t lob an out right like that. He throws that on a rope the corner doesn’t have a chance to even knock it out. Sure Toney should have held on, but multiple things are allowed to exist at once. Drop - ( New Window )
Knowing ONE READ Jones when we see the 22 there will be like 2 receivers downfield wide open.
Dude 1 punt. If it wasnt for the hold and the drop int by evans we down by at least 2 scores if not more
Just take a knee. What are you doing?
Why?
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killing the D. They are keeping this pathetic offense in the game.
Dude 1 punt. If it wasnt for the hold and the drop int by evans we down by at least 2 scores if not more
You forget the 1 turnover in the redzone? Keeping us alive.
Saquon pass block?
Judge won't be aggressive from midfield but will be from his own 10 with less than a minute left.
He certainly isn't learning is he?
You either get a chunk play on the first play, or then shut it down when you don't.
DJ literally was almost sacked there.
Clown Show.
Why?
it gives the illusion that Judge is trying to get some points. All window dressing
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killing the D. They are keeping this pathetic offense in the game.
Dude 1 punt. If it wasnt for the hold and the drop int by evans we down by at least 2 scores if not more
You forget the 1 turnover in the redzone? Keeping us alive.
Stop. It was a fucking gift. The defense is shit tonight. Cant stop run. No pressure. Poor tackling.
Why?
Nobody knows.
100% agree. Time to move on. Reggie Bush 2.0
Agree. Sad but true and I feel bad for him. But can we please play Booker the second half now
Enough said.
THIS TEAM ISN'T GETTING COACHING.
Yeah, maybe the players aren't that good, but a competent staff would have this team around .500.
The league blows.
Pathetic. "One Read" Jones is what I call him. Not even a downfield read.
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killing the D. They are keeping this pathetic offense in the game.
Dude 1 punt. If it wasnt for the hold and the drop int by evans we down by at least 2 scores if not more
LOL - we gave up almost 300 yds and 17 pts in one half. Should have been 20 or 24 but the Bucs shot themselves in the foot with that holding. D stunk. Offense wasn't good either. 1
Yeah, I've seen enough. Booker and Gallman were better running backs. Start moving him around the offense and line him up in the slot. Quit pretending he's a running back.
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.....here we call a TO with nine seconds left.
Why?
it gives the illusion that Judge is trying to get some points. All window dressing
Window dressing, the nearly got their QB sacked, and then did actually fumble it away.
That window dressing isn't working here.
It’s like this almost every week
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Ugly
Pathetic. "One Read" Jones is what I call him. Not even a downfield read.
RGJones
No shit, guy jukes out 4 dudes on one play and they go back to throwing to Slayton and the ghost of Barkley
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wants to play football anymore. He’s stopping in his tracks before any contact.
Agree. Sad but true and I feel bad for him. But can we please play Booker the second half now
Cmon now. That’s a tremendously bad take. Barkley is a shell of himself but we’re not benching him for Booker, a career backup.
Give Barkley a couple weeks. The guy is coming off an ACL and an ankle injury. Of course he is not pedal to the floor just yet.
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Ugly
Pathetic. "One Read" Jones is what I call him. Not even a downfield read.
Does he ever have time?
Again, everything is pre snap and it better be there or cross your fingers for time.
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Ugly
Pathetic. "One Read" Jones is what I call him. Not even a downfield read.
RGJones
Actually 81 now, woohoo!
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Pathetic. "One Read" Jones is what I call him. Not even a downfield read.
Yeah, but part of that is because the D can't get off the field.
Fire Everybody…
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wants to play football anymore. He’s stopping in his tracks before any contact.
Agree. Sad but true and I feel bad for him. But can we please play Booker the second half now
Cmon now. That’s a tremendously bad take. Barkley is a shell of himself but we’re not benching him for Booker, a career backup.
Give Barkley a couple weeks. The guy is coming off an ACL and an ankle injury. Of course he is not pedal to the floor just yet.
Booker's been serviceable and effective. Are we trying to win games or just rehab Saquon?
You're going up against the best quarterback in history. This isn't good enough.
Graham's cover two schemes are allowing Brady to pick us apart underneath and in the flats, and will exhaust the defense. It's also why there's no pass rush. We rush so few that on the few occasions we actually get near Brady he can safely step up knowing that no defender will be in front of him.
Aside from the FG drive we haven't done anything on offense.
Barkley is a liability at this point. I'd rather see Booker or even Brightwell.
The OL has been poor.
I would like to see one good post out of you
On both sides of the ball
Odd? It was downright pathetic in its design.
JJ should have nixed it, but it shows how bad Garrett is challenged to call a competent game.
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wants to play football anymore. He’s stopping in his tracks before any contact.
Agree. Sad but true and I feel bad for him. But can we please play Booker the second half now
Cmon now. That’s a tremendously bad take. Barkley is a shell of himself but we’re not benching him for Booker, a career backup.
Give Barkley a couple weeks. The guy is coming off an ACL and an ankle injury. Of course he is not pedal to the floor just yet.
He has three carries for ten yards. Get Booker in there and see what he can do. Barkley isn’t working tonight. Either he is hurt or stinks LW whatever, but it isn’t working tonight and we need to win.
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I would like to see one good post out of you
Googs is throwing haymakers. This team will do that to you lol.
Fire Everybody…
The Jaguars at least have a future. The Jets might have a QB who knows. The Lions at least know they're bad. Mara still thinks the Giants aren't awful.
Absolutely should be an option in the red zone from this point forward
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wants to play football anymore. He’s stopping in his tracks before any contact.
Agree. Sad but true and I feel bad for him. But can we please play Booker the second half now
Cmon now. That’s a tremendously bad take. Barkley is a shell of himself but we’re not benching him for Booker, a career backup.
Give Barkley a couple weeks. The guy is coming off an ACL and an ankle injury. Of course he is not pedal to the floor just yet.
He has three carries for ten yards. Get Booker in there and see what he can do. Barkley isn’t working tonight. Either he is hurt or stinks LW whatever, but it isn’t working tonight and we need to win.
You say 3 carries for 10 yards like that sample size proves something?!?!?
I mean they do look well coached tonight….
Has lost his marbles
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our new #1 WR, Mr. Andrew Thomas!
Absolutely should be an option in the red zone from this point forward
Is it not crazy it took a trick play to score a touchdown.
How can anyone play that bad and still be in a game? Luck I think..
news flash.. most of those people will be back next year. So, if you are tired of watching this group, then I suggest you find a hobby that can keep you occupied on Sundays
He's fools gold.
Jason Garret sucks no doubt. But Jones has options, he just locks on to his pre snap read and cannot get out of his head to feel the play. He is just not very dynamic he is so robotic in everything he does.
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our new #1 WR, Mr. Andrew Thomas!
Absolutely should be an option in the red zone from this point forward
Is it not crazy it took a trick play to score a touchdown.
It is more crazy that it worked after watching Barkley 100% fail to block his man in the play. Nice grab by the big man
Believe it
1964-1980
How can anyone play that bad and still be in a game? Luck I think..
4 out of 5 O lineman shouldn’t even be in the NFL
THATS why they suck
He’s Reggie Bush but more injury prone. Same hype, same result.
Yes it is. One good year. His rookie year that's it. Way overrated. Not a difference maker.
Brady I'm referring to obviously
He always did this, it just seems like it's a bigger problem than ever. If someone hasn't paved a highway for him he hesitates.
Probably the IT guys again. Server needed to be rebooted.
They cannot entertain extending him. To any rational person he’s a sunk cost. But Mara is so married to him I think him getting extended is absolutely a possibility. He’s not a good player
We will what DJ does on the opening drive. He does nothing good as well.
Not making excuses for him but how about the second half in New Orleans?
He doesn’t send out a returner, the ball rolls inside the 10.
Giants are lucky the Bucs didn’t take time outs and potentially force the Giants to punt in the shadow of their own goal line.
So instead of just kneeling and counting their lucky break, he throws the ball?
Mara loyalty. That's it. No sane GM would do it.
Gettleman/Mara are the only people that would pay Barkley big money. Any other team is offering him a 1 year vet minimum prove it deal.
how many times can you say the same thing over and over and over again? We all think we need replacements. Now, do you have anything insightful to contribute?
"We messed up by not getting the OL right. He deserves a second chance"?
What else is new!
terrible playcall
Judge and Solder are Patriot friends.
Its laughable how fast he was pressured on a stretch playaction
They just aren’t good.
worse. when you see a guy tap dance for 1 yard you know its him.
booker runs through for 4 yards.
Payton was saying everyone knew the play before it was run.
Judge is incompetent.
Agreed.
I was just going to post the same thing. I think Booker is the better player at this point.
He is Gone-Away
That says something about something.
Everyone covered. Immediate pressure.
Fuck you Giants.
just think about what you just said
So DG can save face from his bonehead decision to trade for him in the first place.
It looked like they called a play where nobody knew what they were supposed to be doing. Clueless coaching and
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He isn’t worth a shit with the Giants.
just think about what you just said
Another team will take a chance on him and think they can rehab him back to his rookie form
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He isn’t worth a shit with the Giants.
just think about what you just said
Maybe we can get a used pair of socks for him
Fuck you Giants.
Yes, but some guy named Myrick and Johnson were
Defense sucks
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He isn’t worth a shit with the Giants.
just think about what you just said
Another team may see an all-star in their system.
They went play action 3rd & 14 earlier. Mind boggling.
Why is there so much hate for Barkley tonight?
He’s had 4 carries and 3 of them he had no chance. I’m not sure prime Barry Sanders would fare too well with 4 carries against this DL with this current OL
Who would give you a 7th for him? You can get a practice squad RB to give you what Barkley gives you, minus the occasional highlight reel touchdown.
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He isn’t worth a shit with the Giants.
just think about what you just said
Maybe we can get a used pair of socks for him
finally someone who gets it!
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Where’s Booker?
Why is there so much hate for Barkley tonight?
He’s had 4 carries and 3 of them he had no chance. I’m not sure prime Barry Sanders would fare too well with 4 carries against this DL with this current OL
Probably because Barkley sucks.
Fuck you Giants.
Time to face facts: we blew the #2 and #6 picks in the draft.
No pressure. No pressure. No pressure.
I think Brady's only grass stain is from when he scrambled in the first half.
Now a predictable throw to Fournette in the flat.
Haha!!! I’ve could of told you that from the beginning of the season lol. I think I have..
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Golladay & Toney not on the field 4th and 1.
Fuck you Giants.
Who cares? Jones won't throw to Golladay anyway.
Time to face facts: we blew the #2 and #6 picks in the draft.
No doubt about that.
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the dude simply isn't productive.
So DG can save face from his bonehead decision to trade for him in the first place.
Williams has had a good year
Ol
LBer
OL
DL
OL
CB
OL
you believe that? lol
Add to all of this just an odd feel that Jones just doesn't make the plays when needed. Truly sucks to see where we are at.
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Where’s Booker?
Why is there so much hate for Barkley tonight?
He’s had 4 carries and 3 of them he had no chance. I’m not sure prime Barry Sanders would fare too well with 4 carries against this DL with this current OL
- because three years in and he can't pick up a blitz
- he makes a jump move before running forward
- he goes down way too easily
- we took him 2nd overall. for a RB, he should be a superstar. you can get a better RB later in the draft or in free agency.
maybe he only gets 3 carries a half because he can't move the pile, not the other way around.
any QB would be doing the same with 10 seconds to throw
Just an awful team to root for…
that thread always assumed a lost to the buccaneers, the team which is CLEARLY the hardest team left on the schedule.
Ol
LBer
OL
DL
OL
CB
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QB
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the dude simply isn't productive.
So DG can save face from his bonehead decision to trade for him in the first place.
Williams has had a good year
Agreed I wont allow anyone on this board to say LW has no performed. He has. He is the only one out there pushing but he is double and triple teamed. Watch the game please.
ding ding ding
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He isn’t worth a shit with the Giants.
Who would give you a 7th for him? You can get a practice squad RB to give you what Barkley gives you, minus the occasional highlight reel touchdown.
A team that knows how to scheme the run well like the niners or rams may give something respectable thinking they can get elite production out of him.
This is really what it comes down to. Everything else is meaningless. Until Mara hires someone competent and gets out of their way , this team will never be good again with all the nepotism in the front office
What the hell was that, he was literally giving him a hug.
This team is a fucking joke.
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Where’s Booker?
Why is there so much hate for Barkley tonight?
He’s had 4 carries and 3 of them he had no chance. I’m not sure prime Barry Sanders would fare too well with 4 carries against this DL with this current OL
- because three years in and he can't pick up a blitz
- he makes a jump move before running forward
- he goes down way too easily
- we took him 2nd overall. for a RB, he should be a superstar. you can get a better RB later in the draft or in free agency.
maybe he only gets 3 carries a half because he can't move the pile, not the other way around.
Derrick Henry went 45th overall, Giants came away with studs like, checks notes, Eli Apple and Sterling Shephard ahead of him. Michael Thomas went 47th that year
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disaster mistakes. He also makes nothing happen on the field.
ding ding ding
Can't argue, but Jason Garrett and Judge need to be held accountable too. The whole offense is garbage. Not just Jones
Fire the entire staff.
I’m starting to think that as well. Pull a Cardinals move and just start over again.
We couid have kept Amukamura if that is the scheme.
Kind of like a backup, huh? Think about it, we may have had a backup QB starting for us, for three full seasons.
2 yard route on 3rd and 6?
Solder whiffs on his guy?
Barkley 1 yard run to start?
they are just a bad team getting exposed on MNF. There only TD is on a gift INT from the bucs.
This team is a fucking joke.
He won’t say that.
This
Where are Williams and Lawrence??? Is Ojulari playing tonight?
How badly would Brady’s body be splattered all over the field if he played behind the Giant offensive line?
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the dude simply isn't productive.
So DG can save face from his bonehead decision to trade for him in the first place.
Williams has had a good year
Agreed I wont allow anyone on this board to say LW has no performed. He has. He is the only one out there pushing but he is double and triple teamed. Watch the game please.
Yup, Williams is not the problem. Our edge players and LBs suck balls
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that Giants tried to peddle Barkley to the Ravens when they had all the RB injuries? Who screwed that deal up?
you believe that? lol
but but he is not making the critical mistakes any longer...
If he’s in awe of Brady he should’ve bought a ticket!
Garbage football!
I think it was more about knowing they are out coached, out manned and out classes. There is nothing they can do.
I thought you got mad at posters for calling this out?
He’s great between the 20s
3-7. Win out to get to 10-7...
Right?
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disaster mistakes. He also makes nothing happen on the field.
ding ding ding
Can't argue, but Jason Garrett and Judge need to be held accountable too. The whole offense is garbage. Not just Jones
I still have no idea what Jones ceiling can possibly be but i would really like to see what he can do with an actual NFl Quality RB, OL and an OC who knows what they are doing. Sadly, i dont think that will ever happen
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Just blow it all up.
I’m starting to think that as well. Pull a Cardinals move and just start over again.
It’s pretty damn close. Of course with a new GM on board I would say anything goes and the owners need to stay out of it!
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Looked like he didn’t even care about giving up the TD.
I think it was more about knowing they are out coached, out manned and out classes. There is nothing they can do.
Not a good sign. The wheels might be coming off.
At this point I know what I am watching (I knew before) but we are the doormats of the division.
Not sure what the strength of this team is...but they play hard for joe, he has not lost the locker room
Pollard is a much better player. Barkley's not a RB. At all. I think more people are seeing that. It's just not working and Booker needs to go back to the #1 guy.
At this point I know what I am watching (I knew before) but we are the doormats of the division.
Not sure what the strength of this team is...but they play hard for joe, he has not lost the locker room
They played hard for Shurmur, who I really think at this point was a better HC than Judge.
4th and 1. If we only line up our 6th string WR, they’ll never see the pass coming...etc
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disaster mistakes. He also makes nothing happen on the field.
How badly would Brady’s body be splattered all over the field if he played behind the Giant offensive line?
So just have zero expectations of anything for jones? What are we going to do, ask for a do-over on the rookie contract and take another 3-4 years to see where this goes?
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Just blow it all up.
I’m starting to think that as well. Pull a Cardinals move and just start over again.
It’s pretty damn close. Of course with a new GM on board I would say anything goes and the owners need to stay out of it!
I think we need a new senior VP of player personnel.
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disaster mistakes. He also makes nothing happen on the field.
How badly would Brady’s body be splattered all over the field if he played behind the Giant offensive line?
Stop.. Brady would be 100x better than Jones.. the difference between Brady and Jones isn't the OL..
we need Booker back on the field too...
not good.
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disaster mistakes. He also makes nothing happen on the field.
ding ding ding
Can't argue, but Jason Garrett and Judge need to be held accountable too. The whole offense is garbage. Not just Jones
I still have no idea what Jones ceiling can possibly be but i would really like to see what he can do with an actual NFl Quality RB, OL and an OC who knows what they are doing. Sadly, i dont think that will ever happen
we don't know what his ceiling is, but we just saw what the floor is
And at this rate it seems the only reason we didn't screw up that pick was because it was impossible to screw up, all four big tackles in that draft are good.
Lmfao. The offense is bad. So is the defense. My god
purge the FO, coaching staff, and nearly every player on the roster.
Sums up the Giants. Jones under pressure makes an incredibly stupid throw that results in an INT. The defensive lineman was stunned.
Insult to Dayne
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disaster mistakes. He also makes nothing happen on the field.
How badly would Brady’s body be splattered all over the field if he played behind the Giant offensive line?
Stop.. Brady would be 100x better than Jones.. the difference between Brady and Jones isn't the OL..
+1
Is the junior high school?
At least it was accurate. Right between the numbers
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disaster mistakes. He also makes nothing happen on the field.
How badly would Brady’s body be splattered all over the field if he played behind the Giant offensive line?
Stop.. Brady would be 100x better than Jones.. the difference between Brady and Jones isn't the OL..
Splattered all over the field!
+1. Me too
Some games he does, some games he doesn't. I noticed this in the first quarter, I knew we were in trouble.
no QB would be successful behind this OLINE and Jason Garrett calling fucking plays.
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I saw it happen, but I can't believe he just fired that directly at the defender
At least it was accurate. Right between the numbers
LOL!
I’m out on Jones.
I’m out on Saquon.
I’m out on every single offensive lineman on this team outside of Andrew Thomas.
I’m fact everyone outside of Toney and Thomas can go.
Bad OL play and bad play from Jones equals no offense.
You can’t make that throw and tell your boss I should still start.
Or Penn state running backs
"I saw progress"
"Nobody is madder about this than me."
"I think we have some good young players."
"Next year is a big year for everyone."
Annnnnnd repeat.
I’m out on Jones.
I’m out on Saquon.
I’m out on every single offensive lineman on this team outside of Andrew Thomas.
I’m fact everyone outside of Toney and Thomas can go.
Kadarius Toney had one great game. One other game against NO was good, what else has he done to say he is a guy you know is good
I’m out on Jones.
I’m out on Saquon.
I’m out on every single offensive lineman on this team outside of Andrew Thomas.
I’m fact everyone outside of Toney and Thomas can go.
Bullshit man, this line has not been bad today at all.
"I saw progress"
"Nobody is madder about this than me."
"I think we have some good young players."
"Next year is a big year for everyone."
Annnnnnd repeat.
Come on just 1 more year.
"I saw progress"
"Nobody is madder about this than me."
"I think we have some good young players."
"Next year is a big year for everyone."
Annnnnnd repeat.
Wrong,
"I saw progress"
"Nobody is madder about this than me."
"I think we have some good young players."
"Next year is a big year for everyone."
Annnnnnd repeat.
lol
I actually think it is more than that. John Mara wants to believe. He wants an inner circle connection that he can feel comfortable with. He would rather hire, draft or sign someone who has been recommended by someone who is trusted.
Now, I get that sometimes that makes sense.. but he relies too heavily on that. Why do so many people have to be tied to the organization in some way? Garrett a perfect example.
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No one is gonna be successful behind this line but that may be it for me.
I’m out on Jones.
I’m out on Saquon.
I’m out on every single offensive lineman on this team outside of Andrew Thomas.
I’m fact everyone outside of Toney and Thomas can go.
Kadarius Toney had one great game. One other game against NO was good, what else has he done to say he is a guy you know is good
Wouldn't know as the OC is scared to use him.
This
At all?
Thomas Golladay Toney Engram Barkley…what else is needed?
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No one is gonna be successful behind this line but that may be it for me.
I’m out on Jones.
I’m out on Saquon.
I’m out on every single offensive lineman on this team outside of Andrew Thomas.
I’m fact everyone outside of Toney and Thomas can go.
Kadarius Toney had one great game. One other game against NO was good, what else has he done to say he is a guy you know is good
Use your eyes. Toney is good
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No one is gonna be successful behind this line but that may be it for me.
I’m out on Jones.
I’m out on Saquon.
I’m out on every single offensive lineman on this team outside of Andrew Thomas.
I’m fact everyone outside of Toney and Thomas can go.
Bullshit man, this line has not been bad today at all.
I guess that’s why Devin Whitecis always in 2 seconds after the ball is snapped
What? Toney has been open a lot? When?
it’s more like a suicide pact.
You bitch about Jones every week how does it change your mind now
Start a new over this offseason. Turn the roster over in 3 years.
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snookered the mara bros
I actually think it is more than that. John Mara wants to believe. He wants an inner circle connection that he can feel comfortable with. He would rather hire, draft or sign someone who has been recommended by someone who is trusted.
Now, I get that sometimes that makes sense.. but he relies too heavily on that. Why do so many people have to be tied to the organization in some way? Garrett a perfect example.
perfectly put
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sound like a Coach-killer.
it’s more like a suicide pact.
Because he is. We’ve seen enough of Jones to know he’s a below average NFL qb, who had no business being drafted in round1, let alone a top 10 pick.
I mean...Garret and Judge are still standing around with their fingers up their asses...Jones better pick up the pace
I’m good with that
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I still like Toney, like any WR he needs someone to throw it to him
What? Toney has been open a lot? When?
All game. You just can't tell because he's not getting the ball. Hell he had the safety beat for a potential TD in the 1st quarter but Jones threw a slant to Slayton. The announcers even circled it
He looks washed up
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snookered the mara bros
I actually think it is more than that. John Mara wants to believe. He wants an inner circle connection that he can feel comfortable with. He would rather hire, draft or sign someone who has been recommended by someone who is trusted.
Now, I get that sometimes that makes sense.. but he relies too heavily on that. Why do so many people have to be tied to the organization in some way? Garrett a perfect example.
perfectly put
Agreed, it looks like losing is the only way to purge a change.
Start a new over this offseason. Turn the roster over in 3 years.
Thomas is pro bowl caliber with a good QB.
Instead he throws a stupid pass..
The offensive line is a mess. There is no pass rush. The money spent on the back end is worthless if the QB consistently has 6 seconds or longer to throw.
Gettleman failed to put together a competitive roster with poor drafts and poor free agent signings. He needs to go and this team needs a full reset.
We use up the whole cap…really?
At all?
Thomas Golladay Toney Engram Barkley…what else is needed?
Oline has something to do with that.....BUCS are getting to the QB very quickly. He has no time to set up.
Wilson makes no sense for this roster. You trade for Wilson when you have a complete team and need a QB to put it over the top. Not when you have no OL and no Pass rush and no LB
WTF is he doing?
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Albert Breer does too for what it’s worth.
Wilson makes no sense for this roster. You trade for Wilson when you have a complete team and need a QB to put it over the top. Not when you have no OL and no Pass rush and no LB
Agreed.
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Is a great comment
WTF is he doing?
yep.
If I'm Judge i sacrifice Garrett for your own sake like TC did with Hufnagel and Fassel with Payton.
If I'm Judge i sacrifice Garrett for your own sake like TC did with Hufnagel and Fassel with Payton.
Thats a move that competent HC's would make, we dont have one of those when we shop in the discount bin.
And ANOTHER hold by Hernandez.
if barkley were cut tomorrow the team wouldn’t be in worse shape.
He is also incompetent.
He’s also incompetent. Tallest midget.
Blitzing right over him and stunting him.
Bucs rush 4 and get pressure EVERY time. The interior OL is a joke
Mara can't sell this shit to us. JJ is part of the problem.
Are you fucking crazy? How about that hero ball play effectively ending the game
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This offense is incompetent outside of him
He is also incompetent.
Go Terps, hot take bro
Do we even practice
If I'm Judge i sacrifice Garrett for your own sake like TC did with Hufnagel and Fassel with Payton.
Yeah I will stick with what I said a long time ago that Garrett is a Mara hire and I'm not sure Judge even has the power to fire him even if he wanted to .
IF he does have the power have though he should be fired after the game tonight
Especially not a shitty QB like Daniel Jones
Ever
Ever
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This offense is incompetent outside of him
Are you fucking crazy? How about that hero ball play effectively ending the game
Glennon is the answer right? You're the worst lol
Jones has to throw to a check down because of immediate pressure.
Barkley makes a nice move for seven yards before being tackled by the turf monster.
Slayton commits a block in the back to negate even that small gain.
Whole season in one play.
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This offense is incompetent outside of him
Are you fucking crazy? How about that hero ball play effectively ending the game
This fame was over before it started. Brady can score on us wenever he wants or needs. If we came back in this game if brady has ball at end of game he would win it.
Our defense sucks
Ol sucks
I'm not totally convinced it is.
I just think this is a low talent team.
Jones has to throw to a check down because of immediate pressure.
Barkley makes a nice move for seven yards before being tackled by the turf monster.
Slayton commits a block in the back to negate even that small gain.
Whole season in one play.
+1
Same. I’d say cut him tomorrow but I can only imagine what is behind him on the depth chart.
Don’t short change Gano!
And that is really telling..
Jones could have easily rolled to his left.
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This offense is incompetent outside of him
Are you fucking crazy? How about that hero ball play effectively ending the game
Glennon is the answer right? You're the worst lol
Not long term but i get he would throw a td to golladay
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But how can you keep judge? This is a poorly coached team.
I'm not totally convinced it is.
I just think this is a low talent team.
It's both unfortunately
He’s a turnover machine!!
1st and 20 check down for nothing to SB
2nd and 21 yet another check down !
Blame the OL all you want when the defense has zero fear of being beat deep you basically call whatever you want!
After tonight its 3-7.
I think they’ll probably go about 5-2 from here out. Losses to Dallas and Chargers. They are better than their opponent in the other 5 games.
Because they really aren’t
Surprise…we paid them to be though!
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It’s quite possible that this team ends up with two top 5 picks this year!
After tonight its 3-7.
I think they’ll probably go about 5-2 from here out. Losses to Dallas and Chargers. They are better than their opponent in the other 5 games.
We’re playing a super bowl favorite and getting beat. Yep.
The Eagles and WFT and Dolphins and Bears are not that.
He’s a turnover machine!!
1st and 20 check down for nothing to SB
2nd and 21 yet another check down !
Blame the OL all you want when the defense has zero fear of being beat deep you basically call whatever you want!
we can't run any deep passes because the oline is throwing look out blocks all game.
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It’s quite possible that this team ends up with two top 5 picks this year!
After tonight its 3-7.
I think they’ll probably go about 5-2 from here out. Losses to Dallas and Chargers. They are better than their opponent in the other 5 games.
Cocaine is one helluva drug!
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any part of this team to feel good about.
The potential draft position?
That Mara and his cronies will inevitably fuck up ?
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It’s quite possible that this team ends up with two top 5 picks this year!
After tonight its 3-7.
I think they’ll probably go about 5-2 from here out. Losses to Dallas and Chargers. They are better than their opponent in the other 5 games.
Hilarious.
If you don't think TB would have less points and Giants would have more points then you are an idiot..
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And can’t call any decent plays. Garrett really is a joke at this point. No imagination at all. My 2 year old would run a better offense.
Because they really aren’t
Surprise…we paid them to be though!
We really have 0 playmakers. I liked Toney but tonight he dropped a first down then ran backwards to lose one
I cannot remember the last time we had an offensive line that was able to give our QB ample time. Maybe 2011??
Good night Gracie.
He makes mistakes he’s got to fix, no doubt but when you go down the list of offensive issues the Giants have Jones isn’t in the top 10. Yet for some here he’s the only complaint
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It’s quite possible that this team ends up with two top 5 picks this year!
After tonight its 3-7.
I think they’ll probably go about 5-2 from here out. Losses to Dallas and Chargers. They are better than their opponent in the other 5 games.
How can anyone say that? You think Philly is coming up here worried next Sunday?
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It’s quite possible that this team ends up with two top 5 picks this year!
After tonight its 3-7.
I think they’ll probably go about 5-2 from here out. Losses to Dallas and Chargers. They are better than their opponent in the other 5 games.
Cocaine is one helluva drug!
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It’s quite possible that this team ends up with two top 5 picks this year!
After tonight its 3-7.
I think they’ll probably go about 5-2 from here out. Losses to Dallas and Chargers. They are better than their opponent in the other 5 games.
We’re playing a super bowl favorite and getting beat. Yep.
The Eagles and WFT and Dolphins and Bears are not that.
What does it matter if the only teams that they can hang with are other bad teams. All it does is delude fans into thinking things are getting fixed when they're obviously not.
They came into this game off a bye and looked lifeless and boring. And they played that way.
there is simply no creativity in his game
The 4th down play call where the bucs knew exactly what we were running tells you all you need to know.
Totally disagree Carl......it is not as if they did anything positive tonight...Consistently bad
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It’s quite possible that this team ends up with two top 5 picks this year!
After tonight its 3-7.
I think they’ll probably go about 5-2 from here out. Losses to Dallas and Chargers. They are better than their opponent in the other 5 games.
How can anyone say that? You think Philly is coming up here worried next Sunday?
Didn’t you say they’d be winless at Thanksgiving? Every year people say shit like this, they’ll probably finish around 6-11.
What about this year?
Ill take that bet
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This offense is incompetent outside of him
He makes mistakes he’s got to fix, no doubt but when you go down the list of offensive issues the Giants have Jones isn’t in the top 10. Yet for some here he’s the only complaint
it is just the point. rebuilds Start with QB changes. you don't switch coaches yet again to wait and see on a qb that is still playing hero ball and fucking up
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It’s quite possible that this team ends up with two top 5 picks this year!
After tonight its 3-7.
I think they’ll probably go about 5-2 from here out. Losses to Dallas and Chargers. They are better than their opponent in the other 5 games.
How can anyone say that? You think Philly is coming up here worried next Sunday?
Didn’t you say they’d be winless at Thanksgiving? Every year people say shit like this, they’ll probably finish around 6-11.
I did. Yes. They’re still total shit, even at 3-7.
But they didn’t draft any OL cause Rob Sale was gonna coach up Shane, Matt Peart, etc
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what would the score be?
If you don't think TB would have less points and Giants would have more points then you are an idiot..
Lol.. yea the greatest QB of all time couldn't do better than backup Daniel Jones. The people on this board...
The line is abysmal, that’s not debatable. But Jones’s issues contribute to the suck.
It’s becoming increasingly harder to disagree with this take.
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It’s quite possible that this team ends up with two top 5 picks this year!
After tonight its 3-7.
I think they’ll probably go about 5-2 from here out. Losses to Dallas and Chargers. They are better than their opponent in the other 5 games.
How can anyone say that? You think Philly is coming up here worried next Sunday?
Didn’t you say they’d be winless at Thanksgiving? Every year people say shit like this, they’ll probably finish around 6-11.
I agree: Philly always beats the Giants, and this year will be no different—unfortunately.
The line is abysmal, that’s not debatable. But Jones’s issues contribute to the suck.
Are you accounting for poorly run routes and WRs not blocking on screens? The smallest of assignments are ignored on this team
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it's 2 deep safeties man. it is like rock paper scissors you can't do anything against that. Meanwhile brady threw a td within like 30 seconds of playing 2 deep safeties
Yes...I've been a big supporter but I'm done after tonight...time to blow this Shipshewana up
This franchise is total shit.
You honestly think that was a perfectly fine pocket?
Piss poor technique there’s by Danny check down!
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Look like if you took the worst pieces of Giants football over the last 30 years and put them on the same roster.
What about this year?
Watching this team makes me forget what year it is.
It's not just Jones. The line and Barkley also suck.
Jones is just in over his head. He's a backup.
matt skura was beat right off the snap
And when Chris Mara disagrees with those picks? Who will we ACTUALLY pick?
It's not just Jones. The line and Barkley also suck.
Jones is just in over his head. He's a backup.
And they're poorly coached.
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That’s a perfectly fine pocket, and Jones literally nails a defender in the head with the ball.
You honestly think that was a perfectly fine pocket?
its concerning how little people know about football
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In comment 15462443 WillVAB said:
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Look like if you took the worst pieces of Giants football over the last 30 years and put them on the same roster.
What about this year?
Watching this team makes me forget what year it is.
It's 1971.
It's not just Jones. The line and Barkley also suck.
Jones is just in over his head. He's a backup.
Barkley has talent, he's injury prone, and he's been used incorrectly.
Yes, I believe an NFL quarterback should be able to side step to the clean part of the pocket, and not throw the ball to the other team.
Other than Thomas...who has played well from that list? Golladay and Barkley are fucking jokes
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In comment 15462491 Thunderstruck27 said:
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This offense is incompetent outside of him
He makes mistakes he’s got to fix, no doubt but when you go down the list of offensive issues the Giants have Jones isn’t in the top 10. Yet for some here he’s the only complaint
it is just the point. rebuilds Start with QB changes. you don't switch coaches yet again to wait and see on a qb that is still playing hero ball and fucking up
Rebuilds should start with the biggest problems first. The Giants literally cannot block anyone
It won’t happen. Face it. The owners will never give up control. It’s not the Giants Way.
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In comment 15462677 christian said:
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That’s a perfectly fine pocket, and Jones literally nails a defender in the head with the ball.
You honestly think that was a perfectly fine pocket?
its concerning how little people know about football
It’s honestly why I don’t visit here half as much as I used to. Everyone’s got their little agenda of who they want to blame, and every post has to be shoehorned into jamming that peg in that hole.
Jones probably sucks, but let’s not act like this offensive line is any good. It hasn’t been decent for many years.
It was tipped by the LB, not at the LOS. He stared down the receiver the entire time.
Or do I need to wait for the silly threads tomorrow?
It’s not
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The thing to come back to is that the Giants have 10 points, 7 of which were handed to them by a turnover.
It's not just Jones. The line and Barkley also suck.
Jones is just in over his head. He's a backup.
Barkley has talent, he's injury prone, and he's been used incorrectly.
Barkley fucking sucks. He can go be talented and blessed somewhere else. Completely forgettable player, just like every other guy on this roster.
I’m coming to that realization, but Mara will give Judge one more year IMO. He already indicated that he’s a young coach that will need time and so I don’t see a 3rd coach getting canned after two years. GM I think goes and Garrett most likely. New GM will get the option of keeping the QB or getting a new one, I’m sure.
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You honestly think that was a perfectly fine pocket?
Yes, I believe an NFL quarterback should be able to side step to the clean part of the pocket, and not throw the ball to the other team.
Brady has been sidestepping pressure all night. He’s not even 50% of the athlete that Jones is.
Sadly, I'm starting to feel the same way.
Why would Russell Wilson want to take in that kind of downgrade though?
Or do I need to wait for the silly threads tomorrow?
Wait until we get blown out by the most hated team next week.
Jones probably sucks, but let’s not act like this offensive line is any good. It hasn’t been decent for many years.
No agenda or shoehorning here amigo. I think the Giants are dreadful at every level.
But I do believe there are two dozen NFL QBs who would have stepped into the clean part of the pocket and not thrown the ball directly to a defender.
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The thing to come back to is that the Giants have 10 points, 7 of which were handed to them by a turnover.
It's not just Jones. The line and Barkley also suck.
Jones is just in over his head. He's a backup.
Barkley has talent, he's injury prone, and he's been used incorrectly.
Barkley fucking sucks. He can go be talented and blessed somewhere else. Completely forgettable player, just like every other guy on this roster.
He can go for all I care. I hated the pick, but he is a unique player and can still be great with the right team. My disgust for the pick and his failures here doesn't shade my objectivity about the player. Jones is a much bigger problem than Barkley.
What a joke.
Agree.
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The thing to come back to is that the Giants have 10 points, 7 of which were handed to them by a turnover.
It's not just Jones. The line and Barkley also suck.
Jones is just in over his head. He's a backup.
Barkley has talent, he's injury prone, and he's been used incorrectly.
Yeah, the team is trying to use him as a running back and he's not, he's a terrible running back.
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Albert Breer does too for what it’s worth.
Why would Russell Wilson want to take in that kind of downgrade though?
This team doesn’t have the cap space right now for Wilson, but what makes you think Wilson would be any better then Jones in this offense. His own team in Seattle has only won 3 games.
How can it be any worse than most of the decisions that have been made by this franchise in the past 5 years?
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They need to clean house in the organization. Top to bottom
I’m coming to that realization, but Mara will give Judge one more year IMO. He already indicated that he’s a young coach that will need time and so I don’t see a 3rd coach getting canned after two years. GM I think goes and Garrett most likely. New GM will get the option of keeping the QB or getting a new one, I’m sure.
This half measure stuff has to stop. I can't see why Judge deserves a 3rd year, but screw it. I'd rather keep Gettleman/Chris Mara one more year if the bottom can fall out and it'll prove once and for all that the entire front office needs to be fired down to the secretaries.
1. The roster is horrendous. No one could win with it.
2. After firing the third coach in 2 years, what coach that is worth hiring would take the job?
To think that I actually argued with many of you as to what the hell we were doing….
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They need to clean house in the organization. Top to bottom
I’m coming to that realization, but Mara will give Judge one more year IMO. He already indicated that he’s a young coach that will need time and so I don’t see a 3rd coach getting canned after two years. GM I think goes and Garrett most likely. New GM will get the option of keeping the QB or getting a new one, I’m sure.
This half measure stuff has to stop. I can't see why Judge deserves a 3rd year, but screw it. I'd rather keep Gettleman/Chris Mara one more year if the bottom can fall out and it'll prove once and for all that the entire front office needs to be fired down to the secretaries.
If the last 10 years haven't made them see the light...one more season won't.
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It’s honestly why I don’t visit here half as much as I used to. Everyone’s got their little agenda of who they want to blame, and every post has to be shoehorned into jamming that peg in that hole.
Jones probably sucks, but let’s not act like this offensive line is any good. It hasn’t been decent for many years.
No agenda or shoehorning here amigo. I think the Giants are dreadful at every level.
But I do believe there are two dozen NFL QBs who would have stepped into the clean part of the pocket and not thrown the ball directly to a defender.
It’s kinda hard to play quarterback when 3/5ths of your starting offensive line shouldn’t even be in the league.
When your opponent can get pressure with 4 rushers, you cannot scheme around that.
1. The roster is horrendous. No one could win with it.
2. After firing the third coach in 2 years, what coach that is worth hiring would take the job?
What GM that is worth hiring would take the job knowing the real GM is Chris Mara?
And a second sack. Hernandez being walked back to the QB.
These players like Toney and Barkley don't seem to physically hold up.
Golladay was a wasted shiny hood ornament signing.
A good portion of the population here had a hard on for him during free agency.
Our QB didn’t get it done.
Hey hey hey. I played against Wagner. We only lost to them by 1 TD
Make that a $1000…
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It’s honestly why I don’t visit here half as much as I used to. Everyone’s got their little agenda of who they want to blame, and every post has to be shoehorned into jamming that peg in that hole.
Jones probably sucks, but let’s not act like this offensive line is any good. It hasn’t been decent for many years.
No agenda or shoehorning here amigo. I think the Giants are dreadful at every level.
But I do believe there are two dozen NFL QBs who would have stepped into the clean part of the pocket and not thrown the ball directly to a defender.
It’s kinda hard to play quarterback when 3/5ths of your starting offensive line shouldn’t even be in the league.
When your opponent can get pressure with 4 rushers, you cannot scheme around that.
It’s also hard when you’re not good at playing QB.
In his defense, Barkley tried to keep it fair and fuck up the TD.
Our QB didn’t get it done.
What????
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Has he finished 1 game this year
Wasted because the QB sucks and can’t move in the pocket without taking his eyes off the field !
These players like Toney and Barkley don't seem to physically hold up.
Golladay was a wasted shiny hood ornament signing.
Our QB didn’t get it done.
Well...that's not true
I agree. He’s barely an NFL caliber player. And we took him in round 2
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seems like a massive shitstain too
A good portion of the population here had a hard on for him during free agency.
Thats true but we’re fans. The front office needs to make the right decisions.
Thinking Barkley is a better football player than Quenton Nelson for example.
Our QB didn’t get it done.
Name me one play where Jones had time to throw it more than 15 yards down field. I’ll give you one, the wheel route to Rudolph. That’s it.
Other than that, it’s been a parade of 4-8 yard curls and hitches.
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For nearly 3 quarters we had opportunities.
Our QB didn’t get it done.
Name me one play where Jones had time to throw it more than 15 yards down field. I’ll give you one, the wheel route to Rudolph. That’s it.
Other than that, it’s been a parade of 4-8 yard curls and hitches.
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Even Houston can upset a better team.
This team sucks from the owner to the guy who is on the drum line.
They et him go because they knew they sucked and he was going to want to be paid like a free agent 1000 yard guy on a team that isn't going anywhere. This team isnt either but haas 3o mil less in cap space. This team is going to win the Super bowl this year iguess . or that is what they thought
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For nearly 3 quarters we had opportunities.
Our QB didn’t get it done.
Name me one play where Jones had time to throw it more than 15 yards down field. I’ll give you one, the wheel route to Rudolph. That’s it.
Other than that, it’s been a parade of 4-8 yard curls and hitches.
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The patented Jones throwing 10 feet over someone's head ; he has been doing it all year