Golladay and his no effort blocking attempt in the first half. And then there are the highly paid secondary players who hope someone else makes the tackle. After Jones threw to their DT he sat on the bench with a look like he knew he was not the answer at QB.
He looks like a very frustrated player who doesn't care anymore.
I'm not in love with Golladay as a player and I didn't like what they paid to sign him, but I'm sure he knows when his QB sucks.
Griese pointed it out on the broadcast in real time, Golladay was WIDE open early in the game in the red zone for an easy TD down the middle, and Jones never even looked at him because he was too busy going through his on-paper "progressions" then throwing the ball 10 feet over another receiver's head.
Hate to say it because I've been saying I wanted to give Jones the season. But he missed oipen guys last night more than once for TD's or big gains.
RE: RE: Judge may not have lost them in the lockerroom yet but
Golladay and his no effort blocking attempt in the first half. And then there are the highly paid secondary players who hope someone else makes the tackle. After Jones threw to their DT he sat on the bench with a look like he knew he was not the answer at QB.
That was on the screen to Joka. 19 literally stood there and watched him get tackled. Very early in the game. Any kind of effort there could have made that a big play.
I blame Mara for the Garrett hire and continuing to stick with Garrett. He simply cannot understand how Garrett isn’t working out here. The thing is— I don’t even think Garrett is a bad OC, and Jones isn’t even quite as bad if a QB as he’s looked the last 2 years (still don’t think he’s a real franchise guy though)— I just simply don’t think Garrett and Jones are a good fit and that’s been clear to anyone with even one iota of football knowledge since the day Garrett was hired. The problem is Mara has zero football knowledge. Shurmur drafted Jones and low and behold Jones was a better fit for Shurmur’s offense. He is not a fit for Garrett. Period.
Mara needs to be removed from all football decisions.
Stop with this shurmur shit. HE GOT FIRED FROM HERE for being a shit coach. He GOT FIRED FROM THE BROWNS FOR BEING A SHIT COACH. He is not coaching any more.
HE IS A GOOD QB horse whisper. He can take a shit QB like Jones and make him a one read moron who looks OK. He did it with Case fucking Keenum. 40 turnovers and winning 4 games -- one of which is when eli started -- is not the good old days.
Yo chill out. Jesus Christ. Nothing I said even disagrees with what you're saying. I agree with you: Shurmur was a "QB Whisperer" of sorts and he ran a certain type of offense that Jones's talents particularly flourished in. I wasn't saying "we should never have fired Shurmur." I agree he needed to be fired and was a shit head coach. He would've been better as just our OC or QB Coach but not as our HC. I'm using the point about Shurmur to say that Jones was never picked for Garrett's offense, and Garrett's offense in particular is not a good fit for Jones. Just because I said the name "Shurmur" doesn't automatically make me a defender of the guy-- I'm glad he's gone. But, like YOU said, he had some good qualities, just not enough to outweigh his shitty qualities as a HC. His abilities as said "QB Whisperer" and the fact that Jones's skills fit his scheme perfectly resulted in Jones having his best season of his life (literally) here. And yet even that season was sub-par. Of course we had to move on from Shurmur, but I don't think anyone realized the was doing SOME good here, and when went particularly backwards in the offensive department because Garrett was a particularly worse fit for Jones.
Golladay's efforts was one. There were a few others...
Golladay's efforts was one. There were a few others...
Correct. When a team stops tackling that's a sign of losing the team. Business decisions have started.
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Golladay and his no effort blocking attempt in the first half. And then there are the highly paid secondary players who hope someone else makes the tackle. After Jones threw to their DT he sat on the bench with a look like he knew he was not the answer at QB.
He looks like a very frustrated player who doesn't care anymore.
I'm not in love with Golladay as a player and I didn't like what they paid to sign him, but I'm sure he knows when his QB sucks.
Griese pointed it out on the broadcast in real time, Golladay was WIDE open early in the game in the red zone for an easy TD down the middle, and Jones never even looked at him because he was too busy going through his on-paper "progressions" then throwing the ball 10 feet over another receiver's head.
Hate to say it because I've been saying I wanted to give Jones the season. But he missed oipen guys last night more than once for TD's or big gains.
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there were some signs of him losing them on the field last night.
Golladay's efforts was one. There were a few others...
Correct. When a team stops tackling that's a sign of losing the team. Business decisions have started.
I saw a few on the Defense as well...just going thru the motions as Brady surveyed the field.
Not good since they have to play a lot of games still...
That was on the screen to Joka. 19 literally stood there and watched him get tackled. Very early in the game. Any kind of effort there could have made that a big play.
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I blame Mara for the Garrett hire and continuing to stick with Garrett. He simply cannot understand how Garrett isn’t working out here. The thing is— I don’t even think Garrett is a bad OC, and Jones isn’t even quite as bad if a QB as he’s looked the last 2 years (still don’t think he’s a real franchise guy though)— I just simply don’t think Garrett and Jones are a good fit and that’s been clear to anyone with even one iota of football knowledge since the day Garrett was hired. The problem is Mara has zero football knowledge. Shurmur drafted Jones and low and behold Jones was a better fit for Shurmur’s offense. He is not a fit for Garrett. Period.
Mara needs to be removed from all football decisions.
Stop with this shurmur shit. HE GOT FIRED FROM HERE for being a shit coach. He GOT FIRED FROM THE BROWNS FOR BEING A SHIT COACH. He is not coaching any more.
HE IS A GOOD QB horse whisper. He can take a shit QB like Jones and make him a one read moron who looks OK. He did it with Case fucking Keenum. 40 turnovers and winning 4 games -- one of which is when eli started -- is not the good old days.
Yo chill out. Jesus Christ. Nothing I said even disagrees with what you're saying. I agree with you: Shurmur was a "QB Whisperer" of sorts and he ran a certain type of offense that Jones's talents particularly flourished in. I wasn't saying "we should never have fired Shurmur." I agree he needed to be fired and was a shit head coach. He would've been better as just our OC or QB Coach but not as our HC. I'm using the point about Shurmur to say that Jones was never picked for Garrett's offense, and Garrett's offense in particular is not a good fit for Jones. Just because I said the name "Shurmur" doesn't automatically make me a defender of the guy-- I'm glad he's gone. But, like YOU said, he had some good qualities, just not enough to outweigh his shitty qualities as a HC. His abilities as said "QB Whisperer" and the fact that Jones's skills fit his scheme perfectly resulted in Jones having his best season of his life (literally) here. And yet even that season was sub-par. Of course we had to move on from Shurmur, but I don't think anyone realized the was doing SOME good here, and when went particularly backwards in the offensive department because Garrett was a particularly worse fit for Jones.