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if not jones then who?

NotIraInSI : 11/23/2021 8:15 am
draft choice or veteran?
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RE: UConn  
UConn4523 : 11/23/2021 11:34 am : link
In comment 15464127 cosmicj said:
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What are you talking about? Is there a risk that the Giants eventually give Jones a big extension? The answer is yes. The priority is that this option needs to be completely shut down.


No, there isn't. He hasn't earned a big extension and despite what everyone thinks of the Giants they aren't going to just hand out a QB contract like that. It won't even be Gettelmans call anyway, he will be gone.

There's effectively a 0% chance he gets a big extension unless he somehow elevates his games and we go undefeated the rest of the season. So there's your risk, which is close to 0%.
Have you been paying attention to the Giants  
cosmicj : 11/23/2021 11:36 am : link
Decisionmaking recently? I’m afraid the risk of a long term contract is decidedly higher than zero. I do agree that the risk is trending down, but it’s still there.
I understand the "worry" to an extent  
UConn4523 : 11/23/2021 11:40 am : link
but I don't think its warranted. New GM, which is 100% happening as well if we don't win out, isn't giving Jones a big extension.

Can you name an QB in the league that get a big extension after back to back seasons of TD's in the teens? It isn't happening.
I don't think the Giants extend him  
Go Terps : 11/23/2021 12:04 pm : link
But never underestimate how stupid they can be. This is the same organization that hired Gettleman, drafted a RB #2, drafted Jones #6, negotiated against themselves for numerous free agents, and on and on...

If Jones plays a couple solid games down the stretch he could easily get his option picked up by these fools.
his option, sure  
UConn4523 : 11/23/2021 12:06 pm : link
but not an extension.
Who is giving up assets for Daniel Jones?  
widmerseyebrow : 11/23/2021 12:10 pm : link
We either draft a guy if he's rated highly, or we sign some stop gap veteran for a year. The latter is unpopular because people would rather have unrealistic hopes than cede a year rebuilding other positions.

Drafting a name simply because we need a quarterback now would be repeating the Daniel Jones mistake. I'm bracing for that reality.
I had thought of keeping Jones  
Blue92 : 11/23/2021 12:14 pm : link
as a placeholder QB as 2022 is pretty much going to be a housecleaning year anyway.

On the other hand, the relationship is probably so damaged by now that both parties should just move on. Also, we will have (at least in theory) a talent infusion from the draft. If we have any high picks on offense, we should have a proven vet at QB to help them along.

Someone jokingly mentioned Andy Dalton but that is a very viable option if he becomes available.
RE: I had thought of keeping Jones  
ajr2456 : 11/23/2021 12:19 pm : link
In comment 15464250 Blue92 said:
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as a placeholder QB as 2022 is pretty much going to be a housecleaning year anyway.

On the other hand, the relationship is probably so damaged by now that both parties should just move on. Also, we will have (at least in theory) a talent infusion from the draft. If we have any high picks on offense, we should have a proven vet at QB to help them along.

Someone jokingly mentioned Andy Dalton but that is a very viable option if he becomes available.


I don’t think this can be overlooked. If the oline is improved Toney’s development would probably benefit from a vet over Jones.
RE: RE: I'd give DJ one more year  
BillKo : 11/23/2021 12:19 pm : link
In comment 15463465 jeff57 said:
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In comment 15463457 Anakim said:


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The options simply aren't there



This.


But with competition.

He really can't be handed the job as he was 2020 and 2021.
RE: We’d be a playoff team with Wilson  
FStubbs : 11/23/2021 12:23 pm : link
In comment 15463562 ajr2456 said:
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Have you seen some of the Olines he’s played with? Not much of a downgrade here


With prime Wilson, sure. Not 2021+ Russell Wilson.
Someone elusive  
Thegratefulhead : 11/23/2021 12:25 pm : link
That can create on their own.
Daniel Jones  
JFIB : 11/23/2021 2:27 pm : link
Hardly seems tradeable at this point. Personally, I'm losing faith that he is the long term answer. I would lean toward trading back a little in the 22' draft to acquire capital to move up in the 23 draft for our next QB. I'd still draft OL, ER LB in 22' but getting a few extra number 1's for 23' could put us in position to get someone really good in a much better year for QB's.
Jones is absolutely tradeable  
Go Terps : 11/23/2021 3:25 pm : link
We could move him for a 3rd or 4th rounder, easily.

We should be in this mindset with ALL of the players: trade them for whatever you can get. There are two things to focus on:

1. Accumulate future draft picks
2. Accelerate cap hits whenever possible

This should be a brand new roster by kickoff of the 2025 season at the latest.
The Giants ask should be the Darnold trade  
cosmicj : 11/23/2021 3:32 pm : link
Jones is a better player than Darnold and is owed a lot less money. So he needs to be traded before the deadline for exercising the option.
RE: Jones is absolutely tradeable  
GF1080 : 11/23/2021 3:33 pm : link
In comment 15464967 Go Terps said:
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We could move him for a 3rd or 4th rounder, easily.

We should be in this mindset with ALL of the players: trade them for whatever you can get. There are two things to focus on:

1. Accumulate future draft picks
2. Accelerate cap hits whenever possible

This should be a brand new roster by kickoff of the 2025 season at the latest.


I agree with everything you've said for years but how does Jones get a 3rd or 4th easy so close to his 5th year? He stinks and other teams know it.
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