last night scurrying about, going up to several players pre-snap to bark something out before finally settling back there to take the snap with one second left on the clock?
I know that can happen, especially when there's a chnage in plans, but it seemed to happen on almost every other play last night. It all looked so helter-skelter. So, what the heck was going on. Was Daniel Jones reconfirming dinner times for after the game? Or, what?
And another thing: Is our third-year QB incapable of keeping tabs on the :30 second clock and needs the sideline to watch his back while he just calls out the signals?
Ugh.
It's one thing to play bad but this offense looks unorganized and completely out of the water. Garrett really needs to go, new OC needs to boil down the gameplan to what this team CAN DO WELL, and finally the players need to execute said gameplan!
That being said, this thing is rotten from head to tail, and if the head coach and offensive coordinator can't tell their ass from their elbow, I wouldn't expect the QB to be any different.
In all honesty it's much bigger than just the QB. The problems are systemic. It's coaching and that's Garrett.
Correct. He isn't going to be a guy who just wills a team to a win against a better opponent.
But the Giants game plan doesn't play to his strengths anyways
have we got a mess on our hands.
Again, I think the most likely explanation is that Jones just isn’t that good but how does the sense of hopelessness effect QB play?
Wait…
after watching him last night i am not even sure decent backup QB is in his future. he looks completely overmatched and in over his head.
but i guess it's possible that garrett is just that bad.
He needs to go somewhere else and settle into a backup role where he plays occasionally for a couple years and see if the game slows down for him at all. We saw a good comp for him on the other team last night - Blaine Gabbert. Gabbert's been in the game now as a backup for what, ten years or so? There are worse ways to make a living.
One thing is for sure - Jones should not be the starting QB for the Giants in 2022. Not a single good reason for it.
Squash that nonsense right now.
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a decent back up QB. He’ll most likely get one more year with a new scheme, and Oline.
after watching him last night i am not even sure decent backup QB is in his future. he looks completely overmatched and in over his head.
but i guess it's possible that garrett is just that bad.
I used to opine that Jones was more likely to be out of the league in three years than a franchise QB. All the hostility I got from that comment was completely out of proportion with the reality. People were really invested in what they thought were Jones' *great tools*. "he's definitely a very good starter, but is he elite" LOL. yea ok..
waaaaaaaayyyyyyy
too early in the draft.
That's on our GM. Our expectations and conversations would be different if he was selected in the third round where he should have been, so would our cap situation.
Another stone in the wall of disasters that is our organization.
That play where the DL guy intercepted the pass was ridiculous. Rolling to his right the play was a screen back to the left with either the FB or Barkley as the target. A free rusher came through. Instead of understanding where all the receivers were and adjusting, he just kept backpedaling and staying with the play. Eventually he threw that horrible pass across the field while backpedaling, no QB can throw that. The thing is he had Golloday wide open 5 yards from him, on the side he was rolling too as an outlet and never looked. Brady had the same play slightly later. Saw the rusher, bailed on the play, and hit is outlet 5 yards away, easy peasy. No panic, no turnover.
He is always looking small on big stages. I don't get a lot of confidence in his play. I think he is Mariotta frankly. When the team is dominating the LOS and running the ball he can look fine, unfortunately so do most QB's (even Colt McCoy). Things break down a little and look out.
That play where the DL guy intercepted the pass was ridiculous. Rolling to his right the play was a screen back to the left with either the FB or Barkley as the target. A free rusher came through. Instead of understanding where all the receivers were and adjusting, he just kept backpedaling and staying with the play. Eventually he threw that horrible pass across the field while backpedaling, no QB can throw that. The thing is he had Golloday wide open 5 yards from him, on the side he was rolling too as an outlet and never looked. Brady had the same play slightly later. Saw the rusher, bailed on the play, and hit is outlet 5 yards away, easy peasy. No panic, no turnover.
He is always looking small on big stages. I don't get a lot of confidence in his play. I think he is Mariotta frankly. When the team is dominating the LOS and running the ball he can look fine, unfortunately so do most QB's (even Colt McCoy). Things break down a little and look out.
Every QB has to deal with some adversity. It's never perfect.
The 4th and 2 play was a microcosm of this team and Garrett’s offense. I wonder if any of that falls on DJ because they had man beaters run against a zone defense with 8 guys in coverage.
But the big reason for tapping the breaks is I don’t love the QB class and I’ve seen flashes from DJ in his career that when he has time, he is a completely different player (vs Saints, vs WFT, DET, NYJ and TB as a rookie, etc).
When you have 2 or 3 guys on the Oline consistently getting beat and route combos that do not create any form of separation, it’s hard to fare well as the guy under center.
Barkley did a LOT of this in his vaunted rookie year too. Eli was constantly giving him his assignments.
Shurmur was scripting and defining reads, like he did with Keenum. It's unsustainable.
Thanks Gettleman……for your lousy rebuilding of this team.
I would have taken my chances with Reese all these ears.
God he must be laughing at this complete fuck-up.
The combination of snapping right at the end of the clock and the OL sucking led to an embarrassing showing. TB was in his face all night long with mostly a 3 or 4 man rush.
I do agree, the question becomes how much better?
All QBs miss open targets and make the wrong reads. It becomes magnified when you only get a few chances and it's missed.
I've supported DJ mainly because I think he's got a stacked deck before him: Bad OL play, bad offensive philosophy/play calling, bad coaching.
But there comes a time you have to make some plays on your own and he's not doing it.
10 points last night is abysmal versus the Bucs.
Probably going to be best for a change of scenery for DJ.
In the 2nd half yes, he was under a lot of pressure. He wasn't under siege that often in the 1st half. He just played like shit.
Cowherd bailing on Jones, joe. “It shouldn’t be this hard.”
That play where the DL guy intercepted the pass was ridiculous. Rolling to his right the play was a screen back to the left with either the FB or Barkley as the target. A free rusher came through. Instead of understanding where all the receivers were and adjusting, he just kept backpedaling and staying with the play. Eventually he threw that horrible pass across the field while backpedaling, no QB can throw that. The thing is he had Golloday wide open 5 yards from him, on the side he was rolling too as an outlet and never looked. Brady had the same play slightly later. Saw the rusher, bailed on the play, and hit is outlet 5 yards away, easy peasy. No panic, no turnover.
He is always looking small on big stages. I don't get a lot of confidence in his play. I think he is Mariotta frankly. When the team is dominating the LOS and running the ball he can look fine, unfortunately so do most QB's (even Colt McCoy). Things break down a little and look out.
I've compared him to Marriota several times. That's his ceiling in my opinion. He's not turning into Phil Simms or Eli in year 4. We know who he is now.