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Brederson at RG and Peart at RT

GNewGiants : 11/23/2021 10:33 am
I am not saying these two are answers and I know Brederson has been beat up. But clearly Solder and Hernandez are not the answer. And I am sure both Peart and Brederson will have rough moments.

But why not just give these young players a shot? I mean can it really get worse?
I  
louied7535 : 11/23/2021 10:39 am : link
Want to see Thomas. Bredersen. Skura. Hernandez. Peart
the  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/23/2021 10:40 am : link
Billy Price trade looks like a joke. I took a lot of shit when I said it at the time.

Brederson and Peart should both be starting.
This is what happens when you're scouring the trash heap  
Section331 : 11/23/2021 10:41 am : link
for OL on cut day. You're hoping for bums like Brederson and Billy Price to start. Hog mollies my ass.
RE: the  
90.Cal : 11/23/2021 10:42 am : link
In comment 15463922 Eric from BBI said:
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Billy Price trade looks like a joke. I took a lot of shit when I said it at the time.

Brederson and Peart should both be starting.


Last minute throw shit on the wall move from DG...
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Jimmy Googs : 11/23/2021 10:42 am : link
In comment 15463919 louied7535 said:
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Want to see Thomas. Bredersen. Skura. Hernandez. Peart


I want to see Thomas and 4 new other guys...
Or  
louied7535 : 11/23/2021 10:43 am : link
Just put Wilson at rg. How much worse can it get
Are we going to pretend like Andrew Thomas  
90.Cal : 11/23/2021 10:47 am : link
Was elite last night? 3 pressures and a sack... Smh
 
christian : 11/23/2021 10:47 am : link
Unfortunately, the last thing the Giants need is Skura erratically snapping the ball.
Here’s is theee scary thing  
Dave on the UWS : 11/23/2021 10:48 am : link
This stag, from Judge on down, STILL thinks having Solder at RT gives them the best chance to win.
Time to clean house I’m afraid- again!
(Judge said in the spring “ have to let the young guys play and develop)
Clearly he was just talking out of his ass. He’s a blowhard who can’t coach on this level. Being an obvious liar doesn’t cut it. We see right through it.
I think we can forget about Peart  
BillT : 11/23/2021 10:49 am : link
Look, whatever you think of this staff they aren’t keeping Peart on the bench if he is better or even equal to Solder. I get we hope he will develop. However, he’s just started a number if games and they still are starting Solder. What does that tell you.
Bill, since they started Peart on the blind side  
Dave on the UWS : 11/23/2021 10:57 am : link
Because they didn’t trust Solder there, it tells me they don’t know their ass from a hike in e ground. Their decisions don’t have a pattern. They are non-sensical and counter productive. Solder is what he is - an abomination. Peart is a young guy that COULD get better. You start the guy who has upside. Same deal with Brederson and Hernandez. They started Brederson when Lemieux got hurt. He struggled, especially since he WASN’T a LG. He’s played RG. So now you keep him on the bench when WH is horrid?
AND they run behind Hernandez and Solder rather than behind Thomas?
Clueless across the board.
RE: the  
Dankbeerman : 11/23/2021 10:58 am : link
In comment 15463922 Eric from BBI said:
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Billy Price trade looks like a joke. I took a lot of shit when I said it at the time.

Brederson and Peart should both be starting.


Price is the worst of the bunch of trash we have tried on this oline since maybe Ian Allen
RE: the  
AcidTest : 11/23/2021 10:58 am : link
In comment 15463922 Eric from BBI said:
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Billy Price trade looks like a joke. I took a lot of shit when I said it at the time.

Brederson and Peart should both be starting.


Agreed. He's terrible. Easy beaten by inside swim moves and repeatedly walked back to the QB. Just like Hernandez.
Hernandez should  
Silver Spoon : 11/23/2021 10:58 am : link
never dress for this team again. He’s an absolute joke.
Peart  
Archer : 11/23/2021 11:00 am : link
I would like to see Peart or Solder at guard
They can't be worse than the guys out there.

Play the best linemen
Not that Solderr is any good but he may be better inside
Either way  
Breeze_94 : 11/23/2021 11:06 am : link
It’s time to get Solder and Hernandez out of the lineup.

Both guys are not only gone after the season, but also liabilities

Bredeson should see time. Got to see what we have in him. Traded a 4th to get him and he is under contract through 2023.
RE: Are we going to pretend like Andrew Thomas  
GNewGiants : 11/23/2021 11:06 am : link
In comment 15463957 90.Cal said:
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Was elite last night? 3 pressures and a sack... Smh


Sack was in garbage time and its the first one he gave up all year. Plus, he scored our only TD!
Peart can't be worse than Solder  
AcesUp : 11/23/2021 11:13 am : link
So get the kid some reps to see if he improves and give yourself something to evaluate in the offseason. Provided they don't trade them away, the should have 5 of the first 75 picks. Might want to get an idea on how much priority should be placed at OT.
RE: RE: Are we going to pretend like Andrew Thomas  
Rory : 11/23/2021 11:13 am : link
In comment 15464034 GNewGiants said:
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Was elite last night? 3 pressures and a sack... Smh



Sack was in garbage time and its the first one he gave up all year. Plus, he scored our only TD!


recovering from a ankle injury.
Dave I don’t disagree with you  
BillT : 11/23/2021 11:23 am : link
But as bad as Solder is they obviously trust him more than Peart. It makes no seem to me but that’s what they are saying.
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widmerseyebrow : 11/23/2021 11:33 am : link
In comment 15463922 Eric from BBI said:
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Billy Price trade looks like a joke. I took a lot of shit when I said it at the time.

Brederson and Peart should both be starting.


What is it with Price? Is he just a dummy? He managed to not hit anyone on a 3 man rush that resulted in a sack.

I have to imagine he was only rated highly coming out of college because of physical traits.
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Matt M. : 11/23/2021 11:47 am : link
In comment 15463922 Eric from BBI said:
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Billy Price trade looks like a joke. I took a lot of shit when I said it at the time.

Brederson and Peart should both be starting.
I agree. They looked at Price's draft selection and factored in that he was playing OG, not OC and just assumed he would play up to draft slot.

Really, it was a microcosm of the OL troubles. They knew Lemieux was hurt all summer. They knew they had no real depth. They just assumed Lemieux would be ready to go and did nothing until the very last minute. You can't just roll the dice on every single player you sign off the scrap heap. 4 years of fixing the OL yielded the same results and pretty much the same level of talent as before. As far as I am concerned, OL alone is the reason to fire Gettleman and do it now.
Billy Price  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/23/2021 11:49 am : link
Is up there with the worse offensive linemen that have started on this team, and that’s saying a lot. The guy is an awful awful football player. Why the fuck did Gettleman trade for him.
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widmerseyebrow : 11/23/2021 11:54 am : link
In comment 15464164 Matt M. said:
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Really, it was a microcosm of the OL troubles. They knew Lemieux was hurt all summer. They knew they had no real depth. They just assumed Lemieux would be ready to go and did nothing until the very last minute. You can't just roll the dice on every single player you sign off the scrap heap. 4 years of fixing the OL yielded the same results and pretty much the same level of talent as before. As far as I am concerned, OL alone is the reason to fire Gettleman and do it now.


Rolling the dice on starters coming back from injury or counting on players with few or no starts to become regular starters has been the story of the Giants offensive line for 10+ years.

For all of his blind spots in drafting, Accorsi was pretty good at putting offensive lines together. Reese and Gettleman had ineffective/nonexistent pipelines to replace those players and our team went down the tubes when those linemen got old.
RE: This is what happens when you're scouring the trash heap  
k2tampa : 11/23/2021 11:55 am : link
In comment 15463926 Section331 said:
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for OL on cut day. You're hoping for bums like Brederson and Billy Price to start. Hog mollies my ass.


To be fair, as much of a mess as the O line has been, that wasn't their plan. Lemieux and Gates were to be the starters. And their two planned backups decided to retire.
RE: RE: RE: Are we going to pretend like Andrew Thomas  
90.Cal : 11/23/2021 1:16 pm : link
In comment 15464061 Rory said:
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Was elite last night? 3 pressures and a sack... Smh



Sack was in garbage time and its the first one he gave up all year. Plus, he scored our only TD!



recovering from a ankle injury.


And the excuses just keep coming and coming... The whole game was garbage time
Try Peart at OG  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/23/2021 1:23 pm : link
he clearly cannot beat out Solder. I dont think Judge has some soft spot for Nate.
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