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Would you be happy with this O-Line heading into the T-Camp

Anakim : 11/23/2021 11:59 am
Thomas--Bredeson--Gates/Rookie/FA--Wilson---First Round Pick
If Wilson  
ajr2456 : 11/23/2021 12:01 pm : link
Can play guard I think it’s a start. Depth is going to be important too
I think we need to see Wilson this season  
Tuckrule : 11/23/2021 12:09 pm : link
There is definitely time to get him into the game before season ends. I’m not buying the fact he needs an entire season to get into football shape. We need to see him at guard this season. Still, we need to draft at the very least 2 lineman with the first 3 picks in the draft
no  
GiantsFan84 : 11/23/2021 12:13 pm : link
lemieux is missing

gates may never play again, or at best go the seubert route which took years for his recovery

wilson is literally on the practice squad and is too fat to play

peart i think can hang as the backup swing tackle for now

this team needs to add 4 OL this offseason. at least 1 first round pick needs to be used along with multiple other picks

i would also argue that G and C are more important than OT. you cannot function with pressure right up the middle. the iowa center must be prioritized in the draft
No, no, no  
BillT : 11/23/2021 12:15 pm : link
Bredeson is a backup level player. He’s should be nowhere near a starting job and he’s a RG not a LG on top of that. Wilson cannot be counted one either. He’s a long shot rehab project. Gates is the one you have to hope comes back. Without that it’s too much to do in one season.
wilson  
Hilary : 11/23/2021 12:30 pm : link
Why is Wilson a long term project?
He played well enough in college to be one of the first 32 players off the board. He has played well.
Few offensive lineman appear to be at ideal body weight and he has slimmed down.
The only way to see how his abilities affect the number of offensive lineman the the team needs next year is to put him on the field.
No  
PatersonPlank : 11/23/2021 12:32 pm : link
Just no

Thomas-Rookie/Lem-Rookie/Gates-Rookie/FA-Peart
RE: wilson  
BillT : 11/23/2021 12:34 pm : link
In comment 15464292 Hilary said:
Quote:
Why is Wilson a long term project?
He played well enough in college to be one of the first 32 players off the board. He has played well.
Few offensive lineman appear to be at ideal body weight and he has slimmed down.
The only way to see how his abilities affect the number of offensive lineman the the team needs next year is to put him on the field.

He bombed his first two(?) chances and was hugely overweight even when he came here. Look, I have high hopes for him but he’s in the “show me” category. You can’t plan on him as a starter.
If we get Wilson n shape enought to  
Dankbeerman : 11/23/2021 12:38 pm : link
compete in camp with Gates and Lemuix thats fine but we should be drafting 2 OL in the top 3 rds either way.
This would be my plan ...  
David_Upstate : 11/23/2021 1:00 pm : link
LT Thomas

OG Lemuix vs Rookie vs Wilson vs FA (best 2 start)

OC Rookie vs Gates (have Lemuix take reps at C due to Gates health)

RT Rookie vs Peart


No competition for Thomas

Hopefully Peart vs Evan Neal if Peart pans out kick Neal inside for now

Hopefully a C falls second round that can start

Best case Neal and Edge 1st roundt ... Then OC or OG that can start second round
I don't know why a guy like Bredeson  
Section331 : 11/23/2021 1:05 pm : link
should be counted on for more than anything but OL depth. I think BBI greatly overrates the guy who is on IR, and hasn't shown just how much he sucks yet. Isaiah Wilson is a pipe dream. Maybe he pans out, but I would be nervous as hell penciling him in as a starter. And Gates suffered a catastrophic break. Yeah, Rich Seubert came back from a similar injury, but that was considered a minor miracle for a reason.

We need a complete rebuild. We have one (very good) cornerstone in Thomas. Every other spot, and I mean every one, is up for grabs. If someone like Peart, or Wilson come in and win it, more power to them, but I'm not planning on it. In any case, I'm bringing in young bodies to compete.
I would prefer  
ChicagoMarty : 11/23/2021 1:05 pm : link
Thomas - Wilson - Linderbaum - Lemieux - Ekwonu

With Peart backing up both T's and a prospective third-round choice Cade Mays backing up both G's

Obviously, we use our first two draft picks on Linderbaum and Ekwonu.

This approach would require a commitment to solving the OL once and for all through the draft with premium draft choices.

The opportunity cost would be missing out on a potentially quality ER or ILB at the top of the draft. But drafting into the strength of the upcoming Draft in an area of dire need might have our OL looking like the Cowboys OL in time given that an investment is made in potential OL foundation pieces e.g. Ekwonu and Linderbaum to join with Thomas.

We would still retain a multitude of draft picks to address these positions of need but there is always the hope that a quality FA ER could be induced to come to NJ
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