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Thegratefulhead : 11/23/2021 12:19 pm
Fucking do it.

The whole god damn thing needs to be gutted like a fish. Trade everyone you can this offseason, the return really does not matter.

We need cheap players and available money. We need lots of picks, no premium contracts UNTIL we have in place the recipe to compete.

Then, SPEND THE MONEY.

We are mired in a cycle of suck because we tear it down half assed every time.

Can't we be 3-7 and 50 million under the cap?

ffs  
bc4life : 11/23/2021 12:20 pm : link
just f'in stop
No effing way  
BillT : 11/23/2021 12:21 pm : link
I want the job.
RE: ffs  
Thegratefulhead : 11/23/2021 12:22 pm : link
In comment 15464266 bc4life said:
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just f'in stop
What is the proper reaction to decade of suck and excuses.

We aren't even talking about the good kind of suck.
Only if I can work remotely  
Go Terps : 11/23/2021 12:24 pm : link
I'm not moving back to Jersey.
Sy for Director of College Scouting  
Mike in NY : 11/23/2021 12:29 pm : link
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the ryan guy  
NotIraInSI : 11/23/2021 12:40 pm : link
would lose it.
Should be 50M or more under the cap now  
JonC : 11/23/2021 12:44 pm : link
another poor management indicator.
RE: Should be 50M or more under the cap now  
christian : 11/23/2021 12:56 pm : link
In comment 15464320 JonC said:
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another poor management indicator.


Under discussed point. The Giants have a bunch of starters (as unremarkable as they may be) who are free agents, and lots of incumbents needing an upgrade.

The 2022 resources are bare, and with a deeper look 2023 isn’t great either.
If that happened, the only question would be...  
Jim in Tampa : 11/23/2021 1:25 pm : link
How long would it take Terps to start bitching about Terps?

;>)
RE: If that happened, the only question would be...  
Thegratefulhead : 11/23/2021 1:47 pm : link
In comment 15464459 Jim in Tampa said:
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How long would it take Terps to start bitching about Terps?

;>)
Hopefully from the snap. We need a self critical GM who admits mistakes and is willing to move on from them quickly.
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David Dooley : 11/23/2021 1:50 pm : link
Would that make him the first openly homosexual GM in NFL history?
Terps would trade our whole draft  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/23/2021 1:51 pm : link
For the No. 1 pick and draft Matt Corral. No, we’ll be alright.
I LOL'ed but seriously  
GiantTuff1 : 11/23/2021 1:58 pm : link
I have 300000% more faith in Terps and his vision of team building and his way of doing business would make the Giants instantly interesting again.
RE: Only if I can work remotely  
Maryland Blows : 11/23/2021 2:30 pm : link
In comment 15464277 Go Terps said:
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I'm not moving back to Jersey.


Good, because we don't want you back.
Dupes getting angry  
Go Terps : 11/23/2021 2:39 pm : link
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RE: .  
Mike in NY : 11/23/2021 3:14 pm : link
In comment 15464621 David Dooley said:
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Would that make him the first openly homosexual GM in NFL history?


Sorry, we didn't hire you because of your affair with David Sills
I am kidding  
Thegratefulhead : 11/23/2021 3:14 pm : link
But I am not.

If we had moved on form Eli sooner rather later, traded down in 2018, not drafted Barkley and drafted Lamar Jackson, we would be in an infinitely better spot right now.

Terps wasn't shy about those things, he screamed about them.

Try and deny it.
RE: I am kidding  
Mike in NY : 11/23/2021 3:17 pm : link
In comment 15464939 Thegratefulhead said:
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But I am not.

If we had moved on form Eli sooner rather later, traded down in 2018, not drafted Barkley and drafted Lamar Jackson, we would be in an infinitely better spot right now.

Terps wasn't shy about those things, he screamed about them.

Try and deny it.


Lamar Jackson I think it helps that he has the one OC who has a track record of making QB's like him look better than they are. He did it with Kaepernick and with Tyrod Taylor. Had we traded down and taken Nelson followed by Nick Chubb we would have been better off than Barkley followed by Will Hernandez.
RE: RE: I am kidding  
Thegratefulhead : 11/23/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15464946 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15464939 Thegratefulhead said:


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But I am not.

If we had moved on form Eli sooner rather later, traded down in 2018, not drafted Barkley and drafted Lamar Jackson, we would be in an infinitely better spot right now.

Terps wasn't shy about those things, he screamed about them.

Try and deny it.



Lamar Jackson I think it helps that he has the one OC who has a track record of making QB's like him look better than they are. He did it with Kaepernick and with Tyrod Taylor. Had we traded down and taken Nelson followed by Nick Chubb we would have been better off than Barkley followed by Will Hernandez.
I agree with this but I would phrase it differently. He is the one OC that can exploit their exceptional talent.
RE: .  
Keaton028 : 11/23/2021 5:21 pm : link
In comment 15464621 David Dooley said:
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Would that make him the first openly homosexual GM in NFL history?


Yikes. This is really cringey. Maybe try to be a better person in future posts?
I'd sleep much easier with GT as GM  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/23/2021 5:57 pm : link
than the buffoon we have now. Much easier.
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darktimes : 11/23/2021 6:04 pm : link
I feel like we should go back and analyze every Go Terps draft selection during the draft seasons and coaching selections from the last 4 years and figure this out for real.
RE: RE: Should be 50M or more under the cap now  
BMac : 11/23/2021 6:39 pm : link
In comment 15464339 christian said:
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another poor management indicator.



Under discussed point. The Giants have a bunch of starters (as unremarkable as they may be) who are free agents, and lots of incumbents needing an upgrade.

The 2022 resources are bare, and with a deeper look 2023 isn’t great either.


Not in any way true. Guess the Maras stole the election, too, eh?
RE: Sy for Director of College Scouting  
Joe Beckwith : 11/23/2021 7:37 pm : link
In comment 15464290 Mike in NY said:
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I buy that all day long.
Are you really a deadhead?  
mpinmaine : 11/23/2021 9:05 pm : link
Or did you just get doesed a few times too many?
I like the cut of his jib.  
trueblueinpw : 11/23/2021 9:52 pm : link
How’s the hand shake?
RE: I'd sleep much easier with GT as GM  
adamg : 11/23/2021 10:58 pm : link
In comment 15465337 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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than the buffoon we have now. Much easier.
why? Some rando on the internet as GM would make you sleep better for real?
RE: RE: I'd sleep much easier with GT as GM  
Go Terps : 11/23/2021 11:41 pm : link
In comment 15465666 adamg said:
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than the buffoon we have now. Much easier.

why? Some rando on the internet as GM would make you sleep better for real?


The only advantage Gettleman has over any average Giant fan is his Rolodex, which I assume is actually a Rolodex.

The man is an absolute fool.
RE: RE: I am kidding  
Maryland Blows : 11/24/2021 1:23 pm : link
In comment 15464946 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15464939 Thegratefulhead said:


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But I am not.

If we had moved on form Eli sooner rather later, traded down in 2018, not drafted Barkley and drafted Lamar Jackson, we would be in an infinitely better spot right now.

Terps wasn't shy about those things, he screamed about them.

Try and deny it.



Lamar Jackson I think it helps that he has the one OC who has a track record of making QB's like him look better than they are. He did it with Kaepernick and with Tyrod Taylor. Had we traded down and taken Nelson followed by Nick Chubb we would have been better off than Barkley followed by Will Hernandez.


Again a Monday morning QB. Amazing how people always pick 2 of the best people that could have been drafted but were not when we play the what if games.
RE: Dupes getting angry  
Maryland Blows : 11/24/2021 1:25 pm : link
In comment 15464837 Go Terps said:
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Not a dupe and not getting angry just stating the facts.
RE: RE: RE: I am kidding  
Mike in NY : 11/24/2021 1:39 pm : link
In comment 15466328 Maryland Blows said:
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In comment 15464939 Thegratefulhead said:


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But I am not.

If we had moved on form Eli sooner rather later, traded down in 2018, not drafted Barkley and drafted Lamar Jackson, we would be in an infinitely better spot right now.

Terps wasn't shy about those things, he screamed about them.

Try and deny it.



Lamar Jackson I think it helps that he has the one OC who has a track record of making QB's like him look better than they are. He did it with Kaepernick and with Tyrod Taylor. Had we traded down and taken Nelson followed by Nick Chubb we would have been better off than Barkley followed by Will Hernandez.



Again a Monday morning QB. Amazing how people always pick 2 of the best people that could have been drafted but were not when we play the what if games.


I think you misunderstood my post. I was not MMQBing. What I disagreed with was that we should have traded down and drafted Lamar Jackson. I do not think Lamar Jackson is the same QB he is now if he did not have Greg Roman as his OC. I merely mentioned Nelson and Chubb because we took a RB and OG early. I know we also had a lot of ties to Notre Dame and they had Nelson and McGlinchey on same OL. From what we know of the Giants draft board after Mayfield went #1 it was Barkley-Chubb-??? (I would guess Nelson based on the profile of player that DG likes. I don't think Darnold or Allen would have been in our Top 4.)
RE: RE: RE: I'd sleep much easier with GT as GM  
adamg : 11/24/2021 5:32 pm : link
In comment 15465690 Go Terps said:
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than the buffoon we have now. Much easier.

why? Some rando on the internet as GM would make you sleep better for real?



The only advantage Gettleman has over any average Giant fan is his Rolodex, which I assume is actually a Rolodex.

The man is an absolute fool.


You being better than Gettleman isn't a reason to hire you. Why hire an amateur with a high opinion of themselves (you or Gettleman really) when you can bring in an actual GM from a successful organization?
And by that I mean poaching an executive who is not a current GM  
adamg : 11/24/2021 5:33 pm : link
obviously.
I don't think anyone is actually suggesting hiring me or another fan  
Go Terps : 11/24/2021 5:51 pm : link
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BrettNYG10 : 11/24/2021 5:52 pm : link
It would be hard for a BBI'er to actually be worse than DG.

Jokes aside, I don't think I'd advise GT to update his resume, but he's clearly been more right than Gettleman.
RE: I don't think anyone is actually suggesting hiring me or another fan  
adamg : 11/24/2021 11:25 pm : link
In comment 15466637 Go Terps said:
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I wouldn't put anything past this group...
The point is that an intelligent but untutored fan  
cosmicj : 11/25/2021 9:20 am : link
Could have vastly outperformed the giants front office the last few seasons. That’s the point.
RE: RE: RE: I'd sleep much easier with GT as GM  
djm : 11/25/2021 10:10 am : link
In comment 15465690 Go Terps said:
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than the buffoon we have now. Much easier.

why? Some rando on the internet as GM would make you sleep better for real?



The only advantage Gettleman has over any average Giant fan is his Rolodex, which I assume is actually a Rolodex.

The man is an absolute fool.


Could be a knock off. From afar it’s hard to tell.
I would go with  
Big Al : 11/25/2021 10:14 am : link
Matt in Syracuse if he is still alive. It would be fun to watch a franchise managed from the asylum.
RE: Terps would trade our whole draft  
trueblueinpw : 11/25/2021 10:21 am : link
In comment 15464625 JoeyBigBlue said:
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For the No. 1 pick and draft Matt Corral. No, we’ll be alright.


Serious question: would the Giants be better or worse if we traded our whole draft to pick MC. The truth is, at a minimum, you kind of have to stop and think about that question. Don’t you? I think this team, as it is now, and assuming expired contracts aren’t renewed, would be three or four wins better w/ MC.

One thing is fairly certain, the Giants couldn’t be any worse by trading their entire draft for MC.
Draft picks are the lifeline for a team  
djm : 11/25/2021 4:09 pm : link
But they ain’t worth shit if you pick duds every year and trading a valuable pick isn’t bad if the player you get back is a big time contributor.

The mid 80s skins made a living off trading away picks year after year. Rams are now. Giants fielded their best teams over a 20 year period AFTER “giving up way too much for Eli”

Picks are valuable but so are difference makers. Just get it right. There’s more than one way to skin a cat but when you operate with this risk adverse mindset than the giants have adopted, you have this milk toast mess we see every year.

Gimme the Cowboys / Eagles / skins mentality any day over this shit.
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