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parcells on the manningcast

GiantsFan84 : 11/23/2021 12:21 pm
i wasn't logged on here last night so apologies if this was mentioned but i found this ironic

they asked parcells what he would do against brady. parcells was very simple in his answer. he would make sure he hit brady on the first drive (implied he wouldn't even mind a late hit just so long as they put a hit on him) and would try to disrupt the receivers at the line of scrimmage to make brady off rhythm

and right on cue the giants came out playing a soft zone and not even attempting to make brady uncomfortable
game was lost  
nyfootballfan : 11/23/2021 12:23 pm : link
on the bucs' first drive. the tone was set.
I think we hit him twice all night  
mfsd : 11/23/2021 12:23 pm : link
and both times, he looked annoyed and may have been complaining to the refs. That’s always been the book on him, hitting him throws him off. But very few teams manage to execute on it
just saying  
GiantsFan84 : 11/23/2021 12:24 pm : link
arguably the best coach of my lifetime would have had the complete opposite gameplan that judge and company came up with
I loved Parcells as a coach  
RCPhoenix : 11/23/2021 12:27 pm : link
but he was somnolent last night on the broadcast.
I think it's pretty well known that the way to beat Brady is . . . .  
TC : 11/23/2021 12:30 pm : link
with pressure. But the Giants pressure no one. Seem far more interested in attempting to strip the ball, than hitting someone. Lot's of arm tackles, bad angles. Where are the coaches!? The Giants intimidate no one, even with guys as big as Williams and Lawrence, it looks like they're trying to play finesse football.
Giants don't have the talent to  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/23/2021 12:32 pm : link
accomplish Parcells wishes.

Arians is a very good coach and when he took the job he prioritized protecting Brady like all the good coaches do.

The more I watch this season the more I want the Giants to get rid of more players if that makes sense.
Parcells got after both of them a little bit last night.  
DCGMan : 11/23/2021 12:33 pm : link
I laughed at that different color jersey dig.
Parcells  
Archer : 11/23/2021 12:34 pm : link
I miss Parcells
He was no nonsense and direct

I remember a press conference after a particularly bad game
Parcells identified the problems at the press conference, and called out the players and coaches. To paraphrase Bill he stated, I know what the issue is, I promise you this will never happen again and it will be fixed.
It was fixed and never happened again
Parcell is exactly right  
George from PA : 11/23/2021 12:36 pm : link
Multiple....my ass

Complimentary ....pure BS

Judge lied
Parcells II is the only way we fix this mess  
GiantBlue : 11/23/2021 12:45 pm : link
Is he out there? And can this group of misfits in the front office find him?
RE: Parcells II is the only way we fix this mess  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/23/2021 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15464321 GiantBlue said:
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Is he out there? And can this group of misfits in the front office find him?


Mara keeps notes of hot coaching candidates! Parcells was a great motivator but what he was exceptional at was identifying coaching talent and developing it. He also was a astute talent evaluator and had his system that he implemented at multiple stops. Tough, physical mobile line. Secondary players that can tackle. BIG FAST POWEFUL LB's. Belichick to this day wins with that blueprint with some modifications.
It's a lot easier to play press man  
Section331 : 11/23/2021 12:54 pm : link
when you have LT lining up on the edge. As Peyton pointed out, you can't play man defense against Brady, he will eat you alive. You can't blitz or he'll kill you. Without a pass rush, Graham was left with two options, let TB score quickly, or force them to make multiple plays to score.

As Peyton said, all TB had to do was line up correctly, the Giants weren't going to stop them, only TB was going to stop themselves. I'm not going to defend Graham's gameplan, but this is a talent deficit, and most of us know who is responsible for that.
this team has 2 corners making 14M and 20M  
GiantsFan84 : 11/23/2021 1:16 pm : link
the bucs have 2 good WRs. we couldn't try to play man on them?
RE: game was lost  
M.S. : 11/23/2021 1:23 pm : link
In comment 15464275 nyfootballfan said:
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on the bucs' first drive. the tone was set.

Either that, or the Giants were thoroughly defeated when they first came running out onto the field.
RE: this team has 2 corners making 14M and 20M  
nyfootballfan : 11/23/2021 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15464409 GiantsFan84 said:
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the bucs have 2 good WRs. we couldn't try to play man on them?

JB4 got owned all night.
one of those corners is somewhat close to his value  
islander1 : 11/23/2021 2:06 pm : link
and the other is Bradberry
Well Parcells had no qualms about going on 4th down  
gtt350 : 11/23/2021 3:20 pm : link
.
Multiple  
Thegratefulhead : 11/23/2021 3:23 pm : link
It is one thing to to say you are going to do it and another to have the necessary intellect to pull it off.
He was the highlight of  
Crazed Dogs : 11/23/2021 5:49 pm : link
the game....my favorite coach/mgr of any sport ever...honorable mention would be Billy Martin
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/23/2021 5:51 pm : link
I appreciate all he did for the franchise, but he looked every bit of 80 last night IMO.
& I don't mean for that to come across as a knock.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/23/2021 5:51 pm : link
We all slow down as we age. It just wasn't the Parcells I grew up with as a Giants fan & Patriots/Jets observer.
RE: RE: Parcells II is the only way we fix this mess  
BMac : 11/23/2021 6:28 pm : link
In comment 15464332 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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In comment 15464321 GiantBlue said:


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Is he out there? And can this group of misfits in the front office find him?



Mara keeps notes of hot coaching candidates! Parcells was a great motivator but what he was exceptional at was identifying coaching talent and developing it. He also was a astute talent evaluator and had his system that he implemented at multiple stops. Tough, physical mobile line. Secondary players that can tackle. BIG FAST POWEFUL LB's. Belichick to this day wins with that blueprint with some modifications.


You're mistakenly crediting Parcells with Belichik's accomplishments.
RE: I think we hit him twice all night  
Joe Beckwith : 11/23/2021 7:27 pm : link
In comment 15464276 mfsd said:
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and both times, he looked annoyed and may have been complaining to the refs. That’s always been the book on him, hitting him throws him off. But very few teams manage to execute on it


Often too busy worried about his receivers.
Often wondered why Patriots opponents, with crappy teams or records, didn’t just come after him every play to rattle him and challenge the conditioning of his OL for 4 Q, let alone good teams.
The Giants were the only ones with bals, and some talent.

And the second time he got hit and was looking for a flag and screaming at the refs, was just so expected.
RE: ...  
Joe Beckwith : 11/23/2021 7:33 pm : link
In comment 15465317 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I appreciate all he did for the franchise, but he looked every bit of 80 last night IMO.


The questions were set up not to neuter any position or player. I was disappointed. I thought they’d give him the opportunity to blast as he saw things.
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