Dexter Lawrence: Disappointing Season

belongs inside. Agree he's been invisible too often and is not living up to draft selection.

we need to lower expectations. he's not a negative on this team.

I was expecting the same break out this year. Maybe he is injured but something seems off. I also think with the lack of depth they have he may be wearing out. He does not seem like a high rep player.

In comment 15464338 JonC said:

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belongs inside. Agree he's been invisible too often and is not living up to draft selection.

I have thought this from the time he was drafted.

and move back to a 4-3.

we have a lot of quality DTs and no linebackers. put dex and williams in the middle spelled by Johnson and we got a good rotation. just need real DE's who can pass rush and set the edge.

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In comment 15464338 JonC said: Quote: belongs inside. Agree he's been invisible too often and is not living up to draft selection. I have thought this from the time he was drafted.

Making him into a fucking end in a 3-4 is just another bizarre fucking decision by this horrible organization. He is probably a all pro DT in a 403.

The Giants need in there first 4 picks to have 2 offensive lineman 2 defensive lineman and a tight end or linebacker. They should seriously consider if they take Hutchinson, Karlaftis, or Jermaine Johnson going to a 4-3 with Dexter and Williams at tackle. The best defenders in the draft seem to be 4-3 ends not 3-4 linebackers

I feel bad his career is in cement shoes playing for this horrible team. An other team he would be a pro bowl player.

2 down interior lineman in the 1st round would be a bad move?

in the first place is because that was what bettcher was comfortable running?

Was shocked when they put him at DE.

In comment 15464340 Platos said:

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we need to lower expectations. he's not a negative on this team.

I thought the Giants were getting a Vita Vea type guy. Huge, athletic and disruptive inside.

Well the guy is just as inconsistent as everyone else on this team. Occasional flashes with long periods of average or worse.

Who knows, maybe it's his conditioning? The guy looked gassed in the first half.... after 15 days off. Not good.

In comment 15464340 Platos said:

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we need to lower expectations. he's not a negative on this team.

The expectations are fairly higher than "not a negative".

like his brothers before him, then they draft another DT high because they can't pay the ones we have.

lined up directly over the center

when his time is up.

We've got dozens and dozens of players you could say the same thing about.

When a team is so far gone, we have lots and lots of leeway in letting players walk.

If need be, Giants can locate the exit door for Dexter.

Who cares?

You can't be disappointed by his failure to breakout. You have to expect it.

turn motor to half speed.

but it's also a positional value problem. This player profile just doesn't have much upside.

What is Dexter if he hits his 80th percentile outcome? A good run stopper who gets occasional pressure?

If he hits the 99th percentile, you've got a stud, but the 99th percentile only happens 1% o the time.

For the idea that "if we can teach him to be a pass rusher". He never was one. Why draft a project in the top 10?

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Gettleman drafted from 2018 and 2019 that may be able to contribute something?

some of you are just ruthless...

In comment 15465259 Jimmy Googs said:

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Gettleman drafted from 2018 and 2019 that may be able to contribute something? some of you are just ruthless...

I dont think it's wrong or unfair to expect more from a top 10 draft pick than just "acceptable".

I was being sarcastic. Of course Lawrence's play has been disappointing compared to his draft status...

out of position.

& when you're drafted where he was-16th or 17th overall-you should be.

In comment 15465324 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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& when you're drafted where he was-16th or 17th overall-you should be.

Yep, and playing out of position isn't enough to see so little impact...

In comment 15464338 JonC said:

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belongs inside. Agree he's been invisible too often and is not living up to draft selection.

Agree. We're wasting him by playing him in a 3-4. I hope the new GM considers changing back to a 4-3 even if it takes a year to really get the personnel to do so.

In comment 15465414 AcidTest said:

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In comment 15464338 JonC said: Quote: belongs inside. Agree he's been invisible too often and is not living up to draft selection. Agree. We're wasting him by playing him in a 3-4. I hope the new GM considers changing back to a 4-3 even if it takes a year to really get the personnel to do so.

But then what would we do with our incredible stable of LBers?

And the jersey riding up to his boobs was not thebelly of DL at seasons start. It was embarrassing as a fan of his.
He turned 24 2 weeks ago, and I think he works better lighter.
200 DL available each year, of the 100+ left after the draft there’s gotta be a massive and strong player who can lock up the middle 51%( about 41%> Shelton) of the time in a 3-4 line flip, for a year or 2 until the league catches on.
Like many others they don’t seem to be putting him in the best position for his talent.
Also embarrassing.

Most of our draft choices are disappointments….what does that tell you?

In comment 15465324 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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& when you're drafted where he was-16th or 17th overall-you should be.

Thank you. Please try to explain this to our "philosopher" friend.

such an obvious NT, and would be good there. But the Giants are too smart for that.

just another guy these days. Same with Saquon

In comment 15465263 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 15465259 Jimmy Googs said: Quote: Gettleman drafted from 2018 and 2019 that may be able to contribute something? some of you are just ruthless... I dont think it's wrong or unfair to expect more from a top 10 draft pick than just "acceptable".

He wasn’t a top 10. He was 17th I believe. But he’s a first rounder none the less.

In comment 15464341 Lines of Scrimmage said:

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I was expecting the same break out this year. Maybe he is injured but something seems off. I also think with the lack of depth they have he may be wearing out. He does not seem like a high rep player.

Well that’s Judge’s fault for not keeping more than 5 DLs on the roster.

In comment 15464363 Platos said:

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and move back to a 4-3. we have a lot of quality DTs and no linebackers. put dex and williams in the middle spelled by Johnson and we got a good rotation. just need real DE's who can pass rush and set the edge.

I’d support this; convert to a 4-3, draft two edges (say Hutchinson and Ojabo or Ebiketie), maybe bring in a stop-gap FA at one of the edges like Justin Houston or Jabaal Sheard, draft a SAM linebacker and a defensive tackle in the mid-rounds (there’s a few candidates I’ve been scouting). The wild card is Ojulari as to whether or not he’d be a lineman or linebacker.

Him and DL are DTs. And out the two edge guys next to them. LinJo redux. And of course they should have let Williams walk. And wools jace saved money. Sucked in by an outlier season.