Albert Breer predicted Wilson would be a Giant next year in his half time periscope Q& A last night. Colin Cowherd & Nick Wright just both said either the Giants or Dolphins make the most sense for Wilson.
I wouldn’t do this. Wilson is on the other side of 30 and is making a ton of money. But, the talk is starting. I think it’ll be a fascinating QB market with Watson, Wilson & Rodgers.
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In comment 15464471 joeinpa said:
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Ok. If it means giving up the resources to rebuild the offensive line, no thank you
No, he's signed through 2023, owed $41M over the next 2.
Sounds like a bad move to me. I think the Tarkington comparison above is a good assessment
If you were a fan then as I was. Tarkenton made you proud to be a Giants Fan again, and win or lose we were in every game
DO IT MARA!!!!!
We’re not starting a rebuild and we “tore it all down” 5 years ago and how has that worked out.
I don’t think rebuilding in the NFL involves becoming as bad as possible the same way it does in the NBA. I mean look at the bucs, the chiefs, ravens, pats etc.
They never were nearly as bad as we are right now and they’re all contenders.
Jones is a good soldier and Carroll a great teacher
Maybe we could eventually bring Jones back fixed like Minny did with Fran Tanrkenton
Minn and Mara made some kind of lend lease deal
We’re not starting a rebuild and we “tore it all down” 5 years ago and how has that worked out.
I don’t think rebuilding in the NFL involves becoming as bad as possible the same way it does in the NBA. I mean look at the bucs, the chiefs, ravens, pats etc.
They never were nearly as bad as we are right now and they’re all contenders.
But we didn't "tear it all down" 5 years ago. Management was convinced that 2017 was an outlier, and they could win a championship with Eli. That was the whole rationale for taking Barkley, that he was a pro-ready weapon to help Eli.
And they've been trying to fill in the gaps ever since. Trading valuable assets for an older QB would be more of the same.
The media will love it though.
We need a consultant like Dallas has with Gil Brandt
I have a candidate- Bill Parcells
Yep and he'd be hurt in camp and Jones would be the backup starting.
But unless we overhaul the front office with more competent people who can find more talent, I wouldn't want a great player like Wilson to come here and be exposed to the asbestos all around this current FO.
sure... but he will not play for the Giants. The trade is not happening.
BTW Fran Tarkenton retired with every NFL passing record possible
his 47000 yds in that era was Fnnnnnn incredible
his 1st year with the Giants 1967 he passed for 29 TDs and 13 INTs also ran for around 300 yds 6 yds per carry Avg
If Wilson finger heals and he comes to us and can do 70% of Tarkenton, I will kiss the ground
Like it's our money or something
NFL teams know how to maneuver around the cap. We're in cap trouble as we speak and really don't have anyone on the roster that's worth a damn
At least Russ is worth it
BTW Fran Tarkenton retired with every NFL passing record possible
his 47000 yds in that era was Fnnnnnn incredible
his 1st year with the Giants 1967 he passed for 29 TDs and 13 INTs also ran for around 300 yds 6 yds per carry Avg
If Wilson finger heals and he comes to us and can do 70% of Tarkenton, I will kiss the ground
You're not getting Wilson for Jones straight up.
plus he's a tremendous athlete who can probably play until he's 40+.
You realize that 6 out of the top 10 QBs (stat wise) are 30 or older
Brady, Carr, Stafford, Cousins, Tannehill and Rodgers
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Carroll would go for that
BTW Fran Tarkenton retired with every NFL passing record possible
his 47000 yds in that era was Fnnnnnn incredible
his 1st year with the Giants 1967 he passed for 29 TDs and 13 INTs also ran for around 300 yds 6 yds per carry Avg
If Wilson finger heals and he comes to us and can do 70% of Tarkenton, I will kiss the ground
You're not getting Wilson for Jones straight up.
We have 2 1st round picks next year
Give Seattle DJ, a 1st and a 4th
BTW Fran Tarkenton retired with every NFL passing record possible
his 47000 yds in that era was Fnnnnnn incredible
his 1st year with the Giants 1967 he passed for 29 TDs and 13 INTs also ran for around 300 yds 6 yds per carry Avg
If Wilson finger heals and he comes to us and can do 70% of Tarkenton, I will kiss the ground
How many times did the Giants make the playoffs when Tarkenton was compiling those impressive stats?
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Carroll would go for that
BTW Fran Tarkenton retired with every NFL passing record possible
his 47000 yds in that era was Fnnnnnn incredible
his 1st year with the Giants 1967 he passed for 29 TDs and 13 INTs also ran for around 300 yds 6 yds per carry Avg
If Wilson finger heals and he comes to us and can do 70% of Tarkenton, I will kiss the ground
How many times did the Giants make the playoffs when Tarkenton was compiling those impressive stats?
The cost of that trade in terms of draft capital accounts for 10 of the 15 years of lousy football.
Nope, this team is set to essentially start over the rebuild.
He’s currently on pace to destroy the NFL sack record if he stays relatively healthy. If he has a rebirth of a 2nd act somewhere else, it’ll be on a team with a strong OL imo. We’ve had a poor OL for how many years now? Over a damn decade.
I’m against going for him even if I’m not quite as against it as others. I could kinda see him working out here. But I’m also generally an optimist, and I’m still against it.
He is one of 8 to 10 QBs in the league that makes the position look easy.
He would immediately make the Giants better, and probably a WC contender.
He would be the most talented QB in the history of the team, the first day he donned Giants blue.
But yea, we don't want that guy.
Rebuilding for 8 years and counting..
He is one of 8 to 10 QBs in the league that makes the position look easy.
He would immediately make the Giants better, and probably a WC contender.
He would be the most talented QB in the history of the team, the first day he donned Giants blue.
But yea, we don't want that guy.
I think he's a great QB and would help any team he goes to. I just don't this is anything but a pipedream given our cap situation. He'd be a great addition but someone explain to me how we could even come close to affording it?
RW is good…. but not for the current NYFG.
his OL would be worse here...
If the guy wants a shot at winning a championship, then he cannot come to the Giants
He is one of 8 to 10 QBs in the league that makes the position look easy.
He would immediately make the Giants better, and probably a WC contender.
He would be the most talented QB in the history of the team, the first day he donned Giants blue.
But yea, we don't want that guy.
I'm with you all the way Bro
God if we can only pull this off. We have 2 #1s and a good QB to send back. I really believe Carroll of all people could make Jones a star. Look how the other HC genius made the other Jones a star at NE....The Giants cannot do it for Jones. He needs a guy like Carroll and a team like Seattle.
We need an experienced ready to go superstar. win/win
But even if so, it's the most ridiculous use of assets for this team. We're upside down with a QB on his rookie deal. We should be contending year-after-year in this position, and instead we're looking at another costly rebuild. A vet QB is not the solution--it's just more of the same for the franchise.
Wilson is an elite quarterback in excellent physical shape in an era where quarterbacks are playing at MVP levels into their late 30s.
I wouldn't know how the cap strapped Giants would make it work, but it's not something I'd write off offhand like it doesn't make sense.
This is a much better, and much different, operation if Wilson is the quarterback.
I want no part of Wilson. Too old for where this team is right now. He would make us competitive for a wild card immediately, be he would likely be in decline before the team is competitive for a Super Bowl, which is what I care about.
Maybe he'll be elite for 5 or more years. But maybe he won't. Maybe it's only 2 before he declines. It's not crazy- not everyone is great into their late 30s.
He is one of 8 to 10 QBs in the league that makes the position look easy.
He would immediately make the Giants better, and probably a WC contender.
He would be the most talented QB in the history of the team, the first day he donned Giants blue.
But yea, we don't want that guy.
Osi Osi Osi had it correct above you.
He's the most talented NFL QB in history in his elusiveness, and certainly top 3 of this era with his ability to make plays on the run and his deep ball accuracy with CBs dropped on his receivers. He has great intangibles and crunch time instincts. Lastly, he seems to be unstoppable at times in 2 minute drills for whatever reason.
But everything else you need from a QB, there are many QBs in the league right now who are as good or better. Guys who wouldn't be considered on his level. Maybe it seems like you could nitpick things about all QBs, but
He's is as big of an anomaly at the QB position as anyone the league has ever seen.
And the unfortunate fact for him is that in January, the good teams have the defenses that minimize his strengths and amplify his weaknesses enough that without a great run game and defense you can't advance past the divisional round, let alone win championships. The Wilson that played in his 2nd super bowl if transported in a time machine to today's team would barely be a starting QB.
You might say you need a great team to win championships, and I would agree, but at the same time he doesn't elevate like a Rodgers, Brady, Brees, esp. in the postseason.
If he didn't already win one SB and play in another, and instead lost twice or never went, he would have been gone a long time ago. I feel that bought him a ton of equity to be in Seattle as long as he has, buoyed by him finally producing real passing stats from 2019 onwards.
He's so reliant on highlight plays, people overlook his overall game.