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Was Garrett's hire REALLY JJ's call?

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/23/2021 1:39 pm
I've never been able to escape the feeling that the powers that be-Mara, John-pretty much forced Garrett on JJ. We all know the extent-and an absurd extent IMO-the Maras place on 'loyalty' & being a part of the 'Giants family'. Garrett is from Jersey, went to Princeton, & was our backup QB for a couple of seasons. Of course Mara meddling like this is completely on par with him as an owner.

Anyone else think the same?
I'd wager JG was made as a suggestion to Judge  
JonC : 11/23/2021 1:40 pm : link
and he took the cue.
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Danny Kanell : 11/23/2021 1:41 pm : link
Of course Garrett was "gently" forced on Judge by Mara.
Garrett was "highly recommended" by Mara  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/23/2021 1:41 pm : link
and Mara felt that it would be good for JJ to have a fomer head coach on staff as a resource for running the team for the first time.

If you are Judge in your first job and the owner with 4 SBs is suggesting this, would you say no?
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mfsd : 11/23/2021 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15464564 Danny Kanell said:
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Of course Garrett was "gently" forced on Judge by Mara.


Well the Mara’s do like having an “adult” in the room…
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broadbandz : 11/23/2021 1:43 pm : link
In 2020 you could see he put more effort in for the cowboys game. Exposing his lazy ass all the other weeks when he comes with some worn out stick concept centric game plan. The dude was just showing up for a check. Not that he would have been good if tried anyways.
If he wasn’t,  
RicFlair : 11/23/2021 1:43 pm : link
Does that make Judge look any better? Just let’s the team pick his OC for him.
RE: I'd wager JG was made as a suggestion to Judge  
MeanBunny : 11/23/2021 1:43 pm : link
I think Judge is NOT A PLAYCALLER, he is a manager of talent. So I believe Garrett was dumped on(probably got more money than Judge)Joe Judeg as a veteran coach and he could take over playcalling.
Judge was supposed to train the team on the basics...which hasn't worked well either.
The defensive plan SUCKED as bad as the offense, so not sure why Garrett is the only head to roll.
And Gettleman should be shown the door...right NOW
I’m on record as Yes  
Dave on the UWS : 11/23/2021 1:45 pm : link
I think it went down the way JonC laid out. By firing Garrett, Judge showed me something. Not a lot but something.
RE: I’m on record as Yes  
RicFlair : 11/23/2021 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15464599 Dave on the UWS said:
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I think it went down the way JonC laid out. By firing Garrett, Judge showed me something. Not a lot but something.


By taking so long he showed me something too.
RE: I'd wager JG was made as a suggestion to Judge  
GiantTuff1 : 11/23/2021 1:50 pm : link
In comment 15464563 JonC said:
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and he took the cue.


I would wager to say a "gun under the table" like suggestion.
Practically all the staff hires  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/23/2021 1:52 pm : link
have worked with Judge at some point. The only commonality between the JG and JJ is both coached under Saban.

I don't think mandated but I think probably very strongly encouraged. Mara spoke very highly of the staff when they were hired and said he was very pleased with at least a couple of the hires.
Either way Judge and Graham have as many warts as Garrett.  
Dinger : 11/23/2021 1:58 pm : link
That was an ugly defensive performance and on more than one occasion when the offense was actually able to put up points the defense could not make the stop. And there are so many times that JJ looks lost on the sideline. You can't keep running the play clock to zero and not expect to get penalized. Why is Gano kicking off to the 15 yardline? It seems to me JJ trys to 'out-think' the opposition WAY too often. And well DG hasn't really fulfilled his hogmollies promise now has he. So yeah, we got rid of Garrett. Maybe things get better and maybe they don't.
Garrett was a John Mara hire  
Thats Gold, Jerry : 11/23/2021 1:59 pm : link
Even before they hired Judge. This is the main issue with the Giants. John is as bad as his father was prior to GY being hired. This power has to be taken away from him as it was with Wellington. Nothing will get better until this happens. This is 64-81 all over again!
Judge had no connection whatsoever to Garrett  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/23/2021 2:01 pm : link
It’s clear as day that Garrett was a Mara hire. Absolutely ridiculous how the owner can meddle in football operations.
RE: RE: I’m on record as Yes  
adamg : 11/23/2021 2:03 pm : link
In comment 15464602 RicFlair said:
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In comment 15464599 Dave on the UWS said:


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I think it went down the way JonC laid out. By firing Garrett, Judge showed me something. Not a lot but something.



By taking so long he showed me something too.


Agreed. Hopefully this turns the light on.
If you listen to RV's short podcast this afternoon  
JonC : 11/23/2021 3:46 pm : link
he says it was "an arranged marriage from the start, with John Mara suggesting Garrett" to Judge. Boom.
If you're a new hire  
AcesUp : 11/23/2021 4:18 pm : link
And a green one at that - and the Big Boss "suggests" that you consider somebody for a position on your staff, you hire that person. So technically 'yes' but fundamentally 'not even close'.
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