Kitchens - how will he pan out? (Assuming he will be OC)

Can he block? Seriously the way the OL blocked last night no one will be successful calling plays. Will Hernandez absolutely stinks. AS bad a Solder comes across, Hernandez is a lot worse. Honestly going into next season we have what one OL worth keeping in Thomas. Not counting on Gates playing next year.

but the ladies had better watch out. The guy is a playa.

until the OL is fixed I'm not expecting a lot. I do expect Kitchen to be better than JG that is not saying much

I think it was JG situational play calling. When kitchens took over last season vs the browns with McCoy he was moving the ball well. Of course that’s the game judge went for the fake field goal etc. I think kitchens will be more aggressive meaning fewer 1st down runs. I also believe the nfl knew JG inside and out. A perfect example was the 4th and one play where tampa clearly knew what was coming. The book on JG has been out for a decade and he never changes the script. Kitchens will be an improvement and I think Jones in turn will be better

In comment 15464805 Eric from BBI said:

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but the ladies had better watch out. The guy is a playa.

maybe he’ll have better luck now if he’s promoted, as he wasn’t getting lucky on his looks. Although he probably could have done better at the bars last year when he was a “tight ends” coach….the pickup lines are endless :)

Because you can't just change everything in a week. But situational playcalling, in game decisions, run/pass might change.

Significant change comes in the offseason when they can install something new.

has reputation for liking high-octane offense with vertical passing game. That's maybe not a fit with our OL (but our receiving weapons are all a match (Engram and Rudolph in two TE sets, Golladay and Toney).

I'm curious to see how much Judge lets Kitchens do some cooking on his own. If Judge puts the conservative stranglehold on the gameplan, this won't work.

In comment 15464845 Les in TO said:

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In comment 15464805 Eric from BBI said: Quote: but the ladies had better watch out. The guy is a playa. maybe he’ll have better luck now if he’s promoted, as he wasn’t getting lucky on his looks. Although he probably could have done better at the bars last year when he was a “tight ends” coach….the pickup lines are endless :)

He could have used Bret as his wingman, but alas, he's moved on...

In comment 15464840 Tuckrule said:

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I think it was JG situational play calling. When kitchens took over last season vs the browns with McCoy he was moving the ball well. Of course that’s the game judge went for the fake field goal etc. I think kitchens will be more aggressive meaning fewer 1st down runs. I also believe the nfl knew JG inside and out. A perfect example was the 4th and one play where tampa clearly knew what was coming. The book on JG has been out for a decade and he never changes the script. Kitchens will be an improvement and I think Jones in turn will be better

The 4th down play wasn't just predictable. As we have seen with a lot of Garrett's plays, it was poorly designed. They had 5 receivers out in patterns and 3 of them were literally clustered in a 5 foot radius of each other 2 on the outside running similar depth routes. There was literally nowhere to go with the ball, including a hot read or a safety valve.

What are you trying to cook up here?

I never reaaly followed the Browns. ( does anyone pre-Mayfield).
What is a kitchens offense??

When he took over last year, he had to keep everything. When he took over play calling in Cleveland, I remember reading that the first thing he did was talk to every player and put in things they liked. Mayfield was immediately more successful, in almost QB measurables, by a large margin if I remember.

He actually tailored to offense to what he had. That is what we were promised here but never received.

I know that because I read it here.

He went 5-3 as a play caller in Cleveland and 0-1 as a play caller here last year when Garrett went down with Covid before the Browns game last year.

a completely new offense installed in one week of practice.

Crap called by a different guy is still crap.

before a Monday nighter?

Wouldn't you if you had to watch this offense operate and you were helpless.

In comment 15464889 Thegratefulhead said:

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When he took over last year, he had to keep everything. When he took over play calling in Cleveland, I remember reading that the first thing he did was talk to every player and put in things they liked. Mayfield was immediately more successful, in almost QB measurables, by a large margin if I remember. He actually tailored to offense to what he had. That is what we were promised here but never received.

Excellent point.

Whether the Defense falters week to week, I think there is no question Graham instills some level of fluidity to his game plans.

Jason Garrett was selling the same old remake from the 90s. I hope Kitchens freshens the place up and removed the round peg from the square holes.

In comment 15464965 MattinKY said:
[quote] a completely new offense installed in one week of practice.

Crap called by a different guy is still crap.

I think what you may see is better situational play calling and better Redzone play calling. Maybe even better use of offensive personnel. Regardless of scheme, that could make all the difference.

Not the long term OC.