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NFT: Knicks vs. Lakers - 7:30 PM - Game Thread

adamg : 11/23/2021 4:55 pm
Let's fucking go Knicks! Short term memory... turn the page... fuck the Lakers!
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cant even make simple passes  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 8:59 pm : link
its like they forgot how they got up by 25
When will Thibs realize  
Earl the goat : 11/23/2021 9:00 pm : link
Kemba and Fournier suck

Grimes IQ and OBi should be playing majority of minutes
The Knicks are a dumb team  
Leg of Theismann : 11/23/2021 9:01 pm : link
These turnover streaks are just embarrassing. If you turn the ball over on a stupid pass you should be extra alert/cautious but instead they just seem to get dumber and dumber as the game goes on
so little concern  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/23/2021 9:02 pm : link
for protecting the ball
Get randle the fuck out  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:05 pm : link
fucking forcing shots, moce the ball asshole
RE: When will Thibs realize  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:05 pm : link
In comment 15465554 Earl the goat said:
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Kemba and Fournier suck

Grimes IQ and OBi should be playing majority of minutes


Fournier is literally their best player tonight
Lakers had no interest in playing tonight.  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2021 9:06 pm : link
Now we have a battle on our hands.
Of course westbrook  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:09 pm : link
is going to start making 3s
RE: so little concern  
Leg of Theismann : 11/23/2021 9:10 pm : link
In comment 15465557 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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for protecting the ball


Exactly ball security needs to be the number one priority at all times— turnovers are the way you lose a lead because it leads to easy points in transition. Sometimes It really feels like for the Knicks ball security is just a minor afterthought. It’s not the same as just missing a shot. It would be way better to just run shitty offense and miss shots but at least hold onto to ball because at least you can get back after a missed shot. You can’t get back on a turn over nearly as easily. Just stupid.
RE: Lakers had no interest in playing tonight.  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15465568 bceagle05 said:
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Now we have a battle on our hands.


yup against every bad team this happens
Stop passing to Noel.  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2021 9:11 pm : link
It sucks having to play 4 on 5 at that end.
RE: Stop passing to Noel.  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15465577 bceagle05 said:
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It sucks having to play 4 on 5 at that end.


literally wide open underneath the basket and cant catch the ball can we bring back toppin
The Knicks absolutely suck without Mitchell Robinson  
Leg of Theismann : 11/23/2021 9:15 pm : link
If only the guy could learn how to run without breaking his own ankles once a game
how is that not and 1?  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:18 pm : link
come on
No clue what a continuation is anymore.  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2021 9:18 pm : link
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so how many terrible shooters  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:20 pm : link
is that that gets hot against the Knicks?
Hopefully Russ emptied the tank.  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2021 9:23 pm : link
Keep Noel on the bench please. Let Obi outrun these big dinosaurs.
a burks clutch 4th would be nice right now  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:26 pm : link
no Rose hurts
quickley slow the fuck down  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:28 pm : link
..
Lakers went on  
Leg of Theismann : 11/23/2021 9:28 pm : link
A 25-4 run between the end of the 2nd quartet to the beginning of the 3rd. I’ve almost never seen a 25 point lead get erased quite that quickly that was astonishing.
RE: Lakers went on  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15465605 Leg of Theismann said:
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A 25-4 run between the end of the 2nd quartet to the beginning of the 3rd. I’ve almost never seen a 25 point lead get erased quite that quickly that was astonishing.


Didnt the Knicks do that to the Bucks a couple of weeks ago? 3 minutes to go in the 3rd they cit it to 10 and then with 8 minutes left it was 4
Obi must’ve gotten chewed out for the late close outs the other night.  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2021 9:31 pm : link
He’s flying out to the three point line.
That quickley 3 was huge  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:32 pm : link
expect the Lakers to bring westbrook back now..
Burks gets run over on the shot  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:35 pm : link
of course no call
Randle gets a T from the bench now.  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2021 9:35 pm : link
Getting tired of his act.
how is that 2 shots  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:42 pm : link
but Randles wasnt an and 1? i mean come on
Quickley what a step up with rose out  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 9:44 pm : link
HUGE
Toppin  
jmalls23 : 11/23/2021 9:47 pm : link
Should play 30 minutes. smart with the ball and now confident
Quick forcing TNT to stop sucking the Lakers collective dicks  
Stu11 : 11/23/2021 9:48 pm : link
For a second
And that’s a shooting foul I guess?  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2021 9:52 pm : link
Whatever.
We got this.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/23/2021 9:53 pm : link
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Why do the Knicks put Randle at the line  
Leg of Theismann : 11/23/2021 9:58 pm : link
He always misses these late
RE: And that’s a shooting foul I guess?  
Stu11 : 11/23/2021 9:59 pm : link
In comment 15465628 bceagle05 said:
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Whatever.

I never say this, and it's not every night but watching the way this game was officiated from the 2nd quarter is why people say the officiating is rigged. I mean 3 times tonight Randle has been shooting and they call it on the floor,band they give Westbrick 3 fts for that shit? Then he runs on the inbounds and hangs onto Randle arm like a toddler and they call nothing.
RE: RE: And that’s a shooting foul I guess?  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 10:03 pm : link
In comment 15465633 Stu11 said:
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Whatever.


I never say this, and it's not every night but watching the way this game was officiated from the 2nd quarter is why people say the officiating is rigged. I mean 3 times tonight Randle has been shooting and they call it on the floor,band they give Westbrick 3 fts for that shit? Then he runs on the inbounds and hangs onto Randle arm like a toddler and they call nothing.


I say this every game, it is so uneven, Lakers dont make their run without the refs at half it was 15 fouls to 5 for the lakers...

its absolutely horrendous officiating..
box  
Del Shofner : 11/23/2021 10:07 pm : link
score
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Loved Fourniers game tonight  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 10:09 pm : link
played good d, waa shooting well but didnt force a bunch of shots, Randle played a good game in the 1st half uneven 2nd half..

Quickley was awesome in the 4th, you can tell he just loves when the game is on the line, it may not always fall but he is not afraid..

Toppin is a game changer when the Knicks go small, oppoising bigs cant keep up with him, he was killing the zone on the weak side..

Burks another great 4th, he is another clutch player
Thibs is gonna have to be more flexible with his bigs.  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2021 10:16 pm : link
Noel, Mitch and Taj are backup fives in today’s NBA due to limitations offensively and durability concerns. Let Obi start with Randle, even if just for a few minutes each half - some early dunks will get the team and the MSG crowd going. When you run into teams with legit fives, go back to Obi strictly as the backup four.
That sounds like the making of a  
xman : 11/23/2021 10:18 pm : link
very good team
RE: Thibs is gonna have to be more flexible with his bigs.  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 10:21 pm : link
In comment 15465643 bceagle05 said:
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Noel, Mitch and Taj are backup fives in today’s NBA due to limitations offensively and durability concerns. Let Obi start with Randle, even if just for a few minutes each half - some early dunks will get the team and the MSG crowd going. When you run into teams with legit fives, go back to Obi strictly as the backup four.


I love Thibs but if it was any other coach i think Toppin would be starting at the 5..

I think Mitch needs to be traded for a more offensive minded center that can block shots..

Toppin and Randle are learning to play with each kther as well and it works
I agree guys on Obi  
Stu11 : 11/23/2021 10:31 pm : link
It's interesting I think if he was drafted by a shit team like Houston or OKC last year he'd have gotten more time and put up better offensive #'s but he's becoming such a better all around player in this situation.
RE: I agree guys on Obi  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2021 10:40 pm : link
In comment 15465652 Stu11 said:
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It's interesting I think if he was drafted by a shit team like Houston or OKC last year he'd have gotten more time and put up better offensive #'s but he's becoming such a better all around player in this situation.

Yep, that’s a good point….he’s come a long way in a lot of areas.

Not a whole lot of big changes to be made here - team is what it is. Let Obi take some minutes at the five and let IQ take some of Kemba’s minutes. That’ll improve us as the margins a bit.
RE: RE: I agree guys on Obi  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2021 10:47 pm : link
In comment 15465655 bceagle05 said:
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It's interesting I think if he was drafted by a shit team like Houston or OKC last year he'd have gotten more time and put up better offensive #'s but he's becoming such a better all around player in this situation.


Yep, that’s a good point….he’s come a long way in a lot of areas.

Not a whole lot of big changes to be made here - team is what it is. Let Obi take some minutes at the five and let IQ take some of Kemba’s minutes. That’ll improve us as the margins a bit.


eventually the depth will be consolidated in a trade and guys who are here for the long haul will get more minutes
I take back the shit I was talking about Burks  
adamg : 11/23/2021 11:06 pm : link
He's been great the last several games. He looks like what he's supposed to be... Quickley lite with size.
That win works for me  
djm : 11/23/2021 11:11 pm : link
Just keep at it. They do seem to play up (or down) to the competition. Knicks can hang with most they just need to figure shit out and find their identity.
Maybe Obi  
Carl in CT : 11/23/2021 11:19 pm : link
Could also get a few minutes at the 3 (maybe against teams where they are the not the top 2 scorers on that team.
RE: Thibs is gonna have to be more flexible with his bigs.  
TyreeHelmet : 11/24/2021 7:39 am : link
In comment 15465643 bceagle05 said:
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Noel, Mitch and Taj are backup fives in today’s NBA due to limitations offensively and durability concerns. Let Obi start with Randle, even if just for a few minutes each half - some early dunks will get the team and the MSG crowd going. When you run into teams with legit fives, go back to Obi strictly as the backup four.


Agree with this. There just isn’t enough of a difference on defense most nights to justify playing those guys over Obi. And you can build some killer offensive lineups with him and Randle as the bigs.

Good win last night. Westbrook has been bad but he was incredible in that 3rd quarter.
I said this before but  
nygiants16 : 11/24/2021 8:17 am : link
if the starters keep it close or are leading, with this bench Knicks will be very hard to beat..

Without their best bench player the Knicks bench was fantastic..

Burks is looking like last year burks again and Quickley is looking better and better..

Toppin can be Amare if he continues to develop, he is a modern day big
Saw a couple of videos on Twitter of Grimes' defense last night  
bceagle05 : 11/24/2021 1:14 pm : link
in the few minutes he was in. He's a maniac out there - stays in front of his man on the perimeter, calls out switches, recovers in time to contest threes - Thibs must love him. Hopefully Johnnie Bryant is in the lab with him working on some off-the-dribble moves, because he has the shooting and defense already.
Reading through these threads after the game  
Mike from SI : 11/24/2021 2:58 pm : link
there's one or two of you who may want to take a deep breath while watching. I appreciate your passion as fans, but you also need to recognize that the team can't play well every single possession.

Anyway, good to stack another win, we'll need it with this brutal stretch coming up. Are we gonna get any of our guys back soon?
Man, looks like OKC found another in Giddey.  
Jim in Hoboken : 11/25/2021 9:23 am : link
Can we trade Barrett for him now?

Grimes does have dribble drive moves, but he's just not explosive/quick enough to get to the bucket, often needing to settle for contested jumpers. I hope he gets more minutes, but hard to see how with our depth and Thibs' style.
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