Who are you bringin back next year

My understanding is that given the contracts Gettleman has handed out, and our cap situation, this same team is mostly locked in next year.

I’d imagine Hernandez, Engram, Peppers and Solder all won’t be back. It’ll be hard to find cap room to add much of substance this off-season.

Cant just cut people like golladay because you dont like his contract lol. The consequences would outweigh having him on the team.

In comment 15466370 Metnut said:

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My understanding is that given the contracts Gettleman has handed out, and our cap situation, this same team is mostly locked in next year. I’d imagine Hernandez, Engram, Peppers and Solder all won’t be back. It’ll be hard to find cap room to add much of substance this off-season.

I didn't think they all had guaranteed money except Leonard

In comment 15466374 Straw Hat said:

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Cant just cut people like golladay because you dont like his contract lol. The consequences would outweigh having him on the team.

TO be honest I don't mind having Golladay back but playing with a differet QB. I just figured as long as you were rebuilding....Well then you are trading for picks then.

This sucks so basically Gettle traded away Reese jags for Gettle jags

sad, but appropriate....always planning for "next year" because the season is over so quickly.

Here we go again.

What would have you said last year, if I told you at game 10, this thread was out there?

Well I am saying it now. Next year at week 10, we will be seeing the same thread...."who are we keeping?"

Sad, sad state of affairs. smh

In comment 15466375 Debaser said:

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In comment 15466370 Metnut said: Quote: My understanding is that given the contracts Gettleman has handed out, and our cap situation, this same team is mostly locked in next year. I’d imagine Hernandez, Engram, Peppers and Solder all won’t be back. It’ll be hard to find cap room to add much of substance this off-season. I didn't think they all had guaranteed money except Leonard

Not to hard to look it up at Over the Cap if you really wanted to do so.
NYG Cap situation - ( New Window )

He's guaranteed $7MM on his Year Five option. He'll most likely be back, and the hope is that he'll regain his prior form in his second post-surgery season.

Golladay is locked in through 2022. Most of his 2022 salary is
guaranteed.

The dead money hit from cutting him is probably astronomical

More than anything I want Mara to get this brain fart out of his head that jones and Barkley are going to be Giants forever ; be the face of this franchise; and be back next year instead of being cut since they are not NFL level players.

and move on

In comment 15466435 jeff57 said:

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The dead money hit from cutting him is probably astronomical

Yes, the cap hit from cutting him would be $2 million more than keeping him.

In comment 15466420 Big Blue Blogger said:

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He's guaranteed $7MM on his Year Five option. He'll most likely be back, and the hope is that he'll regain his prior form in his second post-surgery season. Golladay is locked in through 2022. Most of his 2022 salary is guaranteed.

If Barkley looks good over the next few games what you say could make him attractive to a trade partner.

First year post-ACL is rough, especially since he has been battling other injuries. With $7MM guaranteed, his trade value will likely be a bag of chips and a six pack of cheap beer.

It makes sense for the Giants to keep Barkley, because there's no downside. If 2022 Saquon looks the same as 2021 Saquon, they can release him next fall and let him seek a new team.

to this guys horrendous posts. But, here I am doing it too. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

Pragmatically — I hope the Giants slowly ease Barkley in and he has a strong final month. That ups the chances the Giants can recoup a 3rd round pick from a team ready to contend in 2022.

1) Given their cap woes, even a small gap between keeping him and cutting him is a big deal to me with Golladay. I'd say more likely than not, he's still here.

2) It's sad but in a #2 and #6 pick, the Giants have almost no value in trying to trade Barkley and Jones.

3) I'd be done with Slayton

4) I'd also be done with Shepard, but his hit may be too big.

5) 3/5 of the OL should be gone and the 4th, in Peart, shouldn't be guaranteed anything other than a chance to compete.

6) The reality is, if it was possible to replace everyone and still plug other holes in 1 offseason, I'd say at least 8 or 9 guys in regular roles should be gone from the offense.

well thought out...

So if I am reading this correctly -- you have to bring back these over paid scrubs?

Ojulari, Roche, Holmes, that’s about it.

offense - thomas and toney
defense - the most recent draft class and mckinney

everyone else on the team i'd make available for trade and get whatever draft picks i can

what i will think they will do. bring back judge with a win now mandate and a new GM. restructure LW and cut solder, dixon and rudolph to create cap space. draft heavily on the offensive line and "go for it" next year.

In comment 15466379 Debaser said:

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In comment 15466374 Straw Hat said: Quote: Cant just cut people like golladay because you dont like his contract lol. The consequences would outweigh having him on the team. TO be honest I don't mind having Golladay back but playing with a differet QB. I just figured as long as you were rebuilding....Well then you are trading for picks then. This sucks so basically Gettle traded away Reese jags for Gettle jags

Debaser knows nothing about the cap and the financial side of football. Please excuse him.

High school. I know even less about operations in that sport.

So obvious what I’m seeing not to mention the obvious losing

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You really need to study his the salary cap works. Mismanagement has locked the giants into huge guarantees for a number of players. The malpractice here is enormous.

He’s been good his entire career. He got hurt then got saddled with a gun shy qb afraid to throw the ball downfield. He’s not getting cut.

A lot of the players here are fine.

they have like 10+ draft picks so there will be plenty of turnover like most offseasons. Probably about half of the 53.

Stupid not to bring Peart to camp. He is only entering year 3 of a late 3rd rd contract. Salary is not guaranteed, and the remaining unamortized bonus amounts to a petty cash cap hit if cut to get final 53.

Golladay (if healthy) will be fine if you run longer developing linear type plays, or slants. His body and his catch radius are what makes him open, not quick precision routes. He actually has very good long speed, but it is the build-up speed of a long strider. I believe he actually is a bigger total cap hit if cut than he is being on the roster.

In comment 15466945 cosmicj said:

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You really need to study his the salary cap works. Mismanagement has locked the giants into huge guarantees for a number of players. The malpractice here is enormous.

No I really don't. If that makes me a bad bbi person and an excuse to call me childish names so be it. I have better things to do than study what a loser GM did to this franchise and how bad of a shit show it is.

In comment 15466470 Jerry in_DC said:

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to this guys horrendous posts. But, here I am doing it too. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

He is turning into a BBI joke.

Why because I tell the truth about Jones and am not rah rah over this team that is a losing team?

Or because I suggest benching Jones and Barkley ?

How many legends have gotten benched for poor play in favor of back ups only to return to form after having a slump of 3-4 games. Joe Montana for Steve Young. Drew Brees for Doug Floutie Simms was too. Darnold (not saying he is a legend). But struggling QBs get benched. Never was's especially get benched and that is what jones is a never was

Even if gettle is fires retired whatever if were capped out and all these guys have guaranteed money?