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Giants Head Coaches 2012 - Current (Summary Stats)

M.S. : 11/25/2021 8:43 am

Definitely not my intent to show how grim the Giants have been since their last Super Bowl. But rather to put the current Head Coach's record in the context of his three predecessors.

It's a small sample, but the team's Net Point Differential is going in the wrong direction with each new head coaching regime (Joe Judge at -5.2 points per game is the worst.)

That alone won't get him fired, and he'll probably be back next season unless he completely "loses his locker room" and the team goes into the tank and gets humiliated by its division rivals over the final seven games.

Still, it's difficult to envision the Joe Judge regime getting beyond the 2022 Season if there is not a significant change in the vector of these summary stats below:


Tom Coughlin (2012 - 2015)
Total Games: 64
Games Won: 28
Games Lost: 36
Winning Percentage: .438
Points For: 1,523
Points Against: 1,569
Net Point Differential / Game: -0.7

Ben McAdoo (2016 - 2017)
Total Games: 32
Games Won: 14
Games Lost: 18
Winning Percentage: .438
Points For: 556
Points Against: 672
Net Point Differential / Game: -3.6

Pat Shurmur (2018 - 2019)
Total Games: 32
Games Won: 9
Games Lost: 23
Winning Percentage: .281
Points For: 710
Points Against: 863
Net Point Differential / Game: -4.8

Joe Judge (2020 - 2021 Season-to-Date)
Total Games: 26
Games Won: 9
Games Lost: 17
Winning Percentage: .346
Points For: 469
Points Against: 603
Net Point Differential / Game: -5.2
To level set the point differentials,  
cosmicj : 11/25/2021 9:07 am : link
The historically awful Cleveland Browns of 2015-17 had a point differential in the -10-12 points per game and went 4-44.

The Judge record is more like the Cleveland Browns of 2011-13, when they had a point differential of -4-7 points per game and went 14-34. Those 11-13 Browns had Shurmur as head coach for a couple of seasons and Colt McCoy was starting QB for a while.

So the current Giants aren’t historically awful, just really really bad.
RE: To level set the point differentials,  
M.S. : 11/25/2021 9:12 am : link
In comment 15466929 cosmicj said:
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The historically awful Cleveland Browns of 2015-17 had a point differential in the -10-12 points per game and went 4-44.

The Judge record is more like the Cleveland Browns of 2011-13, when they had a point differential of -4-7 points per game and went 14-34. Those 11-13 Browns had Shurmur as head coach for a couple of seasons and Colt McCoy was starting QB for a while.

So the current Giants aren’t historically awful, just really really bad.

I think that's a fair assessment.
Coughlins early years were not great  
George from PA : 11/25/2021 10:29 am : link
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Talent has a lot to do with those numbers  
nyjuggernaut2 : 11/25/2021 8:46 pm : link
The Giants need to start drafting better. They’ve missed on way too many draft picks during this long stretch of losing. Just look at Dallas and the players they’ve drafted over the last few years…

Micah Parsons
CeeDee Lamb
Trevon Diggs
Tyler Biadasz
Connor McGovern
Tony Pollard
Leighton Vander Esch
Connor Williams
Michael Gallup
Dalton Schultz

Numerous guys to build around. Whereas the Giants have what, Andrew Thomas, Toney, and I guess you can throw Ojulari in there.









RE: Coughlins early years were not great  
bradshaw44 : 11/26/2021 12:41 am : link
In comment 15467000 George from PA said:
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With the Giants?

Tom Coughlin had one losing season between 2004-2012. He was a victim of his own success. We were spoiled. An 8-8 season was upsetting when he was here. We’d kill for 8-8 or 8-9 or 9-8 these days. Wins per year from 2004-2012: 6,11,8,10,12,8, 10, 9,9. The losing started in 2013. I’d say based on everything we know, the GM was the problem more so than the coach.

And even when the losing started he won 7,7, 6, and 6. We now have trouble sniffing 6 wins.

I don’t care what anyone says, had we kept TC we would have turned it around if we had a competent GM that whole time. But I agree with those that said the time had come to part ways, based on what information we had to work with. And that was based on the trend of winning steadily decreasing. But if we had a crystal ball and could do it over, I would have fired Reese, hired someone other than Gettleman, and give coach 3 full years guaranteed. That’s with a crystal ball of course.

I mean stop and think back to 2009 when Spags left and Sheridan took over as DC. That year felt like what the past 6 years have actually been like. Yet we finished 8-8 and canned Sheridan with malice in our hearts. 8-8 and we were all devastated by that record. And yet we’d all kill for that these days. Crazy when you think about it. And yes I know we had come off a 12 win season. Still crazy.

Tom Coughlin was a great coach. And I’m glad he didn’t go to Philly. But I wish Philly had taken Macadoo before we locked him down.
I remember when 8-8 was considered a 'down season'.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/26/2021 8:40 am : link
Now we'd throw a parade for breaking even.
I took TC's time management and and timeout calling for granted  
Spiciest Memelord : 11/26/2021 12:23 pm : link
thought any dope could handle that, its not rocket science. But yeah right there that will cost you a game or two a year.
Forgot to mention  
Spiciest Memelord : 11/26/2021 12:23 pm : link
penalty challenges too.
RE: I remember when 8-8 was considered a 'down season'.  
bradshaw44 : 11/26/2021 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15467348 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Now we'd throw a parade for breaking even.


That’s essentially the point of my post. That’s why I say he was a victim of his own success. He was so good that 8-8 was considered a crap season. I still remember the post game press conference Tom gave after the last game of 2010. He said he was not upset with the season because 10 wins is a damn fine record in the nfl. It was like TC was trying remind the fan base of this fact. That the seasons he was giving us were not bad in the grand scheme of things.

Yet we had become so used to the playoffs that we didn’t care. Reminds me of the old saying, “be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.” This is why the reports about our next coach possibly being a retread if we go that route, don’t upset me. When we canned Shurmur, myself, Eric and a few others were clamoring for Cowher. My main reason for that was I knew we needed someone that knew how to structure a team. Get players to play for him. And basically just right the ship after it has been listing for many years. At this point that’s what we need if we go another route.

Outside of continuity, a proven commodity is the next best thing for this team. Get me a Cowher to come in. Have his successor already on his staff to learn at the side of the boss, and right the ship for at least three seasons. If we win a Super Bowl before three years then tack on a few more years if coach desires. But the most important thing is getting a winning program established. And by having the successor on board already, you can keep continuity in place.

I know this is all wishful thinking. But if I owned the team, I would 100% look for this type of set up as my plan. Doesn’t have to be Cowher, but I’d like someone that had a ring and a decade of winning regularly too boot. That limits the pool, but it’s not impossible.
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