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Trainmaster : 11/25/2021 3:39 pm
TAF: Thanksgiving Afternoon Football (at least out on the West Coast)

F Dallas. That is all.

Covid issues are going to bite  
jvm52106 : 11/25/2021 4:05 pm : link
A contender before this season is done.

Gotta root for the Raiders, just because!!
Nice Start  
Trainmaster : 11/25/2021 4:41 pm : link
Dallas 3 and out, then Raiders TD!

Thank God  
kcgiants : 11/25/2021 4:47 pm : link
the game is on CBS. Wouldn't be able watch if Aikman was commentating the game.
Watch Elliott closely  
bubba0825 : 11/25/2021 4:49 pm : link
He drops his helmet almost every run which is illegal
RE: Thank God  
GNewGiants : 11/25/2021 4:58 pm : link
In comment 15467178 kcgiants said:
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the game is on CBS. Wouldn't be able watch if Aikman was commentating the game.


Think Romo is much better?
Why the fuck was  
kcgiants : 11/25/2021 5:01 pm : link
Carr stretching out with the ball for? He was ten yards away from a 1st down.
RE: RE: Thank God  
kcgiants : 11/25/2021 5:03 pm : link
In comment 15467187 GNewGiants said:
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the game is on CBS. Wouldn't be able watch if Aikman was commentating the game.



Think Romo is much better?


Hell yeah Romo is much better and he's not a big ass homey like Aikman.
I hate the Cowboys.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2021 5:06 pm : link
Fuck them forever.
A Raiders win would send  
jvm52106 : 11/25/2021 5:06 pm : link
This boys team and the media into a full on panic.

Please let it happen.
Am I overserved or did I just see  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2021 5:14 pm : link
A CBS graphic that Parsons has 5 1/2 sacks in November alone?
TD Oakland.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2021 5:15 pm : link
I mean Vegas.
......  
Route 9 : 11/25/2021 5:15 pm : link
Hehe Dallas down early
RE: TD Oakland.  
Route 9 : 11/25/2021 5:16 pm : link
In comment 15467196 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I mean Vegas.


I keep doing that too
Keep Pouring It On Vegas!  
Trainmaster : 11/25/2021 5:17 pm : link
I hate the Cowboys and their bandwagon fan base so much!

RE: RE: TD Oakland.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2021 5:19 pm : link
In comment 15467198 Route 9 said:
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I mean Vegas.



I keep doing that too


I still do that with the Chargers. Haha.
The heck  
Scooter185 : 11/25/2021 5:26 pm : link
Was that commercial
17 6 Oakland.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2021 5:37 pm : link
I mean LV Raiders. Lets go!
Tony pollard is clearly  
bubba0825 : 11/25/2021 6:00 pm : link
Better than Barkley
RE: Tony pollard is clearly  
section125 : 11/25/2021 6:15 pm : link
In comment 15467210 bubba0825 said:
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Better than Barkley


Better than Zeke too.

Hate the Cowboys  
jvm52106 : 11/25/2021 6:18 pm : link
Just fucking hate them...
Luke combs looks like if  
bubba0825 : 11/25/2021 6:25 pm : link
Diabetes got a spokesperson
Alex Leatherwood  
GNewGiants : 11/25/2021 6:35 pm : link
Might be the worst OL I’ve seen this year. What a colossal reach by Mayock.
Giants coaches seemed to have played it smart  
George from PA : 11/25/2021 6:46 pm : link
Against the Raiders
......  
Route 9 : 11/25/2021 6:46 pm : link
Watch Philly win the division now lol
Love it  
kcgiants : 11/25/2021 6:55 pm : link

TD Raiders Td
Fuck Me  
gtt350 : 11/25/2021 6:57 pm : link
,
How did the refs miss  
section125 : 11/25/2021 6:59 pm : link
the block in the back and hold on that KO return?
RE: RE: Tony pollard is clearly  
UConn4523 : 11/25/2021 7:04 pm : link
In comment 15467213 section125 said:
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Better than Barkley



Better than Zeke too.


He gets the benefit of not carrying the load. This is a mistake many make since most RBs can’t handle 20 touches over the course of the season. Elliott has proved that already, Pollard probably can’t. It’s a good match, keeps both fresh.
RE: Fuck Me  
Route 9 : 11/25/2021 7:06 pm : link
In comment 15467222 gtt350 said:
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No
RE: RE: RE: Tony pollard is clearly  
bwitz : 11/25/2021 7:18 pm : link
In comment 15467224 UConn4523 said:
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Better than Barkley



Better than Zeke too.




He gets the benefit of not carrying the load. This is a mistake many make since most RBs can’t handle 20 touches over the course of the season. Elliott has proved that already, Pollard probably can’t. It’s a good match, keeps both fresh.


100% on the nose. This is the same situation as when Felix Jones was behind Barber. Jones would jet his reps, look great and people would say, “He should start over Marion Barber!”
RE: How did the refs miss  
jnoble : 11/25/2021 7:21 pm : link
In comment 15467223 section125 said:
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the block in the back and hold on that KO return?


Dallas home field advantage
That was a penalty  
bubba0825 : 11/25/2021 7:53 pm : link
Last year against us. The nfl is so inconsistent
some Joe judge level clock management there...  
guitarguybs12 : 11/25/2021 7:58 pm : link
just take it to the 2 min warning
Another Penalty called  
yalebowl : 11/25/2021 7:58 pm : link
To favor Dallas
RE: some Joe judge level clock management there...  
ZogZerg : 11/25/2021 8:00 pm : link
In comment 15467234 guitarguybs12 said:
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just take it to the 2 min warning


Yup, terrible.
Mike McCarthy clapping with his play sheet  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2021 8:10 pm : link
annoys the hell outta me for some reason.
Romo...  
dreamer3kx : 11/25/2021 8:12 pm : link
Have just this feeling he pumps his fist in booth when cowboys make a big play, just get that feeling, ha.
Amazing the calls that  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/25/2021 8:14 pm : link
Dallas gets. God I hate them.
Centers bobbing heads  
section125 : 11/25/2021 8:15 pm : link
all game and all of a sudden it is a penalty...
These refs suck  
bubba0825 : 11/25/2021 8:18 pm : link
Your kidding me with that last call
F  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/25/2021 8:22 pm : link
You Dallas
This brown guy  
terz22 : 11/25/2021 8:22 pm : link
Woof
Fuck the NY Giants  
BigBlueJ : 11/25/2021 8:22 pm : link
for not Drafting Parsons. Fuck em all!!!
Awesome watching Parsons tear it up  
j_rud : 11/25/2021 8:22 pm : link
I hope the next GM isn't such a buffoon as to overlook such obvious talent.
Don’t think that  
bubba0825 : 11/25/2021 8:23 pm : link
Was pi either
I'm 59 years old...  
JohnG in Albany : 11/25/2021 8:23 pm : link
I'm quite sure I've never seen the Cowboys take a call like that at home. *grin*

Steratore putting homer Romo in his place.  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2021 8:24 pm : link
Obvious PI.
Maybe not obvious, but fuck them anyway.  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2021 8:24 pm : link
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RE: Awesome watching Parsons tear it up  
JohnG in Albany : 11/25/2021 8:24 pm : link
In comment 15467246 j_rud said:
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I hope the next GM isn't such a buffoon as to overlook such obvious talent.


Yeah, he seems like he's going to be a pretty big problem for a while.
......  
Route 9 : 11/25/2021 8:27 pm : link
This is something I'd do in Madden
Yes fuck Dallas and Jerry jones  
kcgiants : 11/25/2021 8:27 pm : link
Fuck Dallas
......  
Route 9 : 11/25/2021 8:28 pm : link
Lol. Here come the Iggles to take the division.
Lovin' Las Vegas.  
CT Charlie : 11/25/2021 8:28 pm : link
First and last time I'll ever say that.
F  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/25/2021 8:28 pm : link
U Dallas
Is that what "Bones" Fassel...  
JohnG in Albany : 11/25/2021 8:28 pm : link
really wanted?
RE: Yes fuck Dallas and Jerry jones  
jnoble : 11/25/2021 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15467253 kcgiants said:
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Fuck Dallas


Nelson pointing:
HA-HA!!!
Let's see  
CT Charlie : 11/25/2021 8:29 pm : link
the Jerrah Face.
Dessert will taste a bit sweeter after that L.  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2021 8:29 pm : link
Losers of three of four? Someone check on Troy Aikman.
RE: F  
JohnG in Albany : 11/25/2021 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15467256 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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U Dallas


Bummer...
Thank you  
BigBlueJ : 11/25/2021 8:29 pm : link
Mike Mccarthy
Happy Thanksgiving!  
Grey Pilgrim : 11/25/2021 8:30 pm : link
:yes:
RE: Steratore putting homer Romo in his place.  
section125 : 11/25/2021 8:30 pm : link
In comment 15467249 bceagle05 said:
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Obvious PI.


Besides the fact he was holding the WR's left hand before running straight through him.
Brown with PI on almost every pass. Diggs also.
RE: Dessert will taste a bit sweeter after that L.  
kcgiants : 11/25/2021 8:31 pm : link
In comment 15467260 bceagle05 said:
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Losers of three of four? Someone check on Troy Aikman.


He on his neeks and has his mouth wide open blowing Jerry Jones
Also, Derek Carr maybe the worst  
section125 : 11/25/2021 8:32 pm : link
deep baller passer in the NFL. He was horribly inaccurate in both distance and placement
RE: Also, Derek Carr maybe the worst  
kcgiants : 11/25/2021 8:34 pm : link
In comment 15467266 section125 said:
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deep baller passer in the NFL. He was horribly inaccurate in both distance and placement

He was good enough to beat the Cowpokes
RE: Also, Derek Carr maybe the worst  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/25/2021 8:43 pm : link
In comment 15467266 section125 said:
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deep baller passer in the NFL. He was horribly inaccurate in both distance and placement


He leads the league in passes over 20 yards, Brady is second.
RE: RE: Also, Derek Carr maybe the worst  
section125 : 11/25/2021 8:45 pm : link
In comment 15467267 kcgiants said:
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deep baller passer in the NFL. He was horribly inaccurate in both distance and placement


He was good enough to beat the Cowpokes


What? Had he completed one or two they would have won in regular time.
What did pass did he complete. He got more DPIs than balls near his WRs.
RE: RE: RE: Also, Derek Carr maybe the worst  
kcgiants : 11/25/2021 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15467269 section125 said:
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deep baller passer in the NFL. He was horribly inaccurate in both distance and placement


He was good enough to beat the Cowpokes



What? Had he completed one or two they would have won in regular time.
What did pass did he complete. He got more DPIs than balls near his WRs.

Did he not win the game? He passed enough to win. That's the bottom line.
A Dallas loss  
fivehead : 11/25/2021 8:49 pm : link
is the whipped topping on my pumpkin pie.

The best part is they lost due to a penalty flag, which makes the stinging loss even worse for the fans.
The heartbreak! The humanity!  
GeofromNJ : 11/25/2021 8:52 pm : link
RE: RE: RE: RE: Also, Derek Carr maybe the worst  
section125 : 11/25/2021 8:56 pm : link
In comment 15467271 kcgiants said:
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Did he not win the game? He passed enough to win. That's the bottom line.


It was a comment. I do not need to be lectured on the Raiders winning. Yes I am happy Dallas lost and that is always good.

It was a simple comment - Derek Carr throws the worst deep ball I have seem in quite a while. He was nowhere near any of his WRs who were open often. He was long, mostly short and often thrown to the wrong side of the WR.

RE: Also, Derek Carr maybe the worst  
DonQuixote : 11/25/2021 8:57 pm : link
In comment 15467266 section125 said:
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deep baller passer in the NFL. He was horribly inaccurate in both distance and placement


Such a stupid comment. He throws a great deep ball.

RE: A Dallas loss  
jnoble : 11/25/2021 9:02 pm : link
In comment 15467272 fivehead said:
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is the whipped topping on my pumpkin pie.

The best part is they lost due to a penalty flag, which makes the stinging loss even worse for the fans.


I was completely expecting the Raiders to get reffed into a loss via Dallas's home field advantage with said refs. A BS holding call here, a drive extending BS PI call there on 3rd and long...
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Also, Derek Carr maybe the worst  
kcgiants : 11/25/2021 9:03 pm : link
In comment 15467275 section125 said:
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Did he not win the game? He passed enough to win. That's the bottom line.



It was a comment. I do not need to be lectured on the Raiders winning. Yes I am happy Dallas lost and that is always good.

It was a simple comment - Derek Carr throws the worst deep ball I have seem in quite a while. He was nowhere near any of his WRs who were open often. He was long, mostly short and often thrown to the wrong side of the WR.


Sorry if you took it worry. No demeaning was intended. We are both happy CowPukes lost.
Love seeing the Cowboys lose, but  
csb : 11/25/2021 9:13 pm : link
Parsons looked really good. He would be a huge difference maker on this defense and make LW and the DBs look much better. Schemes aside, I think this team wins two more games this year if Parsons played for us the ways he’s been playing.

Not trying to debate passing on him - the pick next year looks great and Toney has a potential to be a game breaker. But Parsons would bring a lot of what is missing in this defense - a game wrecker at LB/Edge
RE: RE: Also, Derek Carr maybe the worst  
section125 : 11/25/2021 9:16 pm : link
In comment 15467276 DonQuixote said:
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deep baller passer in the NFL. He was horribly inaccurate in both distance and placement



Such a stupid comment. He throws a great deep ball.


Where did that happen? He throws a beautiful crossing pass. Not one of his deep passes today was close to being completed to WRs. Maybe in another game(s), but certainly not today.
But carry on...
That was a great game for Thanksgiving  
trueblueinpw : 11/25/2021 9:19 pm : link
I finished my third piece of pumpkin pie during overtime. Dallas loss and Blomo crying about an obvious DPI? Delish!
you can make the case  
nym172 : 11/25/2021 9:31 pm : link
that if we pick parsons we are still alive for the playoffs without question in my mind we have 5 wins and are 1-2 games behind the cowboys as they lose 1-2 more games.
not picking parsons  
nym172 : 11/25/2021 9:32 pm : link
sometimes we over analyze shit

this one move could have saved DG JG JJ jobs.....
picking slater or parsons  
nym172 : 11/25/2021 9:34 pm : link
and we are in it....its sometimes comes down to 1-2 moves...
RE: you can make the case  
Ned In Atlanta : 11/25/2021 9:57 pm : link
In comment 15467288 nym172 said:
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that if we pick parsons we are still alive for the playoffs without question in my mind we have 5 wins and are 1-2 games behind the cowboys as they lose 1-2 more games.


Parsons looks like a perennial DPOY candidate. Thankfully we likely have a top 10 pick as a consolation prize. Lions win today would have been nice
I liked parsons too  
dancing blue bear : 11/25/2021 10:00 pm : link
But hindsight is 20/20. I was and still am happy for the extra picks. Plus aziz looks pretty good too

Thing with parsons that ppl forget. We have Sean Spence on the coaching staff (coach chaos DL coach) was his coach at penn state. So giants had a lot of insight into parsons and passed. Time will tell but there is a habit of doing the hindsight thing here. Most ppl were happy after the draft
I was begging that the giants would draft parsons  
djm : 11/25/2021 10:41 pm : link
When he went to Dallas that second I said oh shit and sure enough the guy is an absolute beast. His very existence in Dallas is going to further ruin football for me these next few years, or longer. That’s what the giants do. Even when they don’t play they annoy me.
And supposedly  
djm : 11/25/2021 10:45 pm : link
Parsons wasn’t even on our radar. Fucking assholes. Shame on any team for thinking that way. Giants have a bias against linebackers lately. They simply don’t draft then very high. They don’t place an emphasis on the position. It’s as clear as day.

And we play a 3-4.
Glad Dallas lost  
djm : 11/25/2021 10:48 pm : link
Fuck that cesspool of a franchise/fan base. Some shaky performances from them lately. They have an uphill battle now for the top 1-2 seed now. Home field might be a tad overrated but getting that bye and lower seed draw isn’t. Dallas D can still be had despite playing better this year.
Losses will probably benefit the Giants more at this point  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2021 10:58 pm : link
but I’d happily make an exception against Dallas on Dec. 19. That team had an awfully good time kicking our ass earlier this season, as did Aikman up in the booth.
Hey. I’m a penn state fan and I love  
dancing blue bear : 11/25/2021 10:59 pm : link
Defense and linebackers. I grew up on LT. Tthe perfect age to enjoy his career. He was mythical.

That being said we needed (and still need) extra picks. I wanted a slight trade down (15 for the pts to take the qb.) and wanted aziz in the first. Owah was my second choice. Time will tell. KT could be special if he stays healthy and develops
RE: Hey. I’m a penn state fan and I love  
Batenhorst7 : 11/26/2021 5:53 am : link
In comment 15467312 dancing blue bear said:
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Defense and linebackers. I grew up on LT. Tthe perfect age to enjoy his career. He was mythical.

That being said we needed (and still need) extra picks. I wanted a slight trade down (15 for the pts to take the qb.) and wanted aziz in the first. Owah was my second choice. Time will tell. KT could be special if he stays healthy and develops



Did you have any idea Miles Sanders would turn out to be the better NFL RB?
RE: I liked parsons too  
j_rud : 11/26/2021 7:17 am : link
In comment 15467298 dancing blue bear said:
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But hindsight is 20/20. I was and still am happy for the extra picks. Plus aziz looks pretty good too

Thing with parsons that ppl forget. We have Sean Spence on the coaching staff (coach chaos DL coach) was his coach at penn state. So giants had a lot of insight into parsons and passed. Time will tell but there is a habit of doing the hindsight thing here. Most ppl were happy after the draft


It's not hindsight. Not in the least. There was a large and vocal Parsons contingent here prior to the draft. Additionally all of the "tea leaves" stuff coming out from Guants beat writers via "unnamed sources" was structured in a way that it seemed like they were finding a reason/rationalizing not drafting him.

And future picks are only worth so much, and much less when your organization has a pretty poor hit rate. Instead of Parsons, who looks like a potential All Pro and essentially locked in as DROTY, they have a WR they don't know how to use and 2 picks they are just as likely to fuck up than make the most of.
Had we drafted Parsons  
Batenhorst7 : 11/26/2021 10:26 am : link
Graham would have him on the bench watching Crowder and Ragland
OMG: Cowboys blaming the refs for the loss  
Rick in Dallas : 11/26/2021 10:58 am : link
Michael Gallup: "We played two teams.The refs and the other team"Anthony Brown and Micah Parsons complaining about some of the penalties.
It's a great day here in Dallas. I have a big smile on my face today.
RE: Hey. I’m a penn state fan and I love  
HomerJones45 : 11/26/2021 11:38 am : link
In comment 15467312 dancing blue bear said:
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Defense and linebackers. I grew up on LT. Tthe perfect age to enjoy his career. He was mythical.

That being said we needed (and still need) extra picks. I wanted a slight trade down (15 for the pts to take the qb.) and wanted aziz in the first. Owah was my second choice. Time will tell. KT could be special if he stays healthy and develops
RB's and The Happy Valley Hype machine. I think the only good ones in 50 years were Franco Harris, Curt Warner and Larry Johnson with many notable first round busts otherwise.
Parsons is playing in a 4-3  
jeff57 : 11/26/2021 11:46 am : link
Which plays to his strengths. Not sure he would have been as successful in the Giants 3—4.
Hochuli’s crew  
jeff57 : 11/26/2021 11:47 am : link
Has thrown a flag on this thread.
Lydell Mitchell  
jacob12 : 11/26/2021 5:56 pm : link
Mitchell was a great NFL RB. Penn State is fifth in
ALL-TIME NFL rushing yards by college.
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