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pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 11:04 am
any surprises?

For me it's the Penguins and Islanders, I expect those two to be reversed (at least in the standings).

Latest Athletic power rankings (top 10):

1. Panthers
2. Hurricanes
3. Maple Leafs
4. Capitals
5. Flames
6. Avs
7. Lightning
8. Bruins
9. Oilers
10. Wild

4 of the top 10 from the Atlantic, 6 from the East. I think he stretched to include MIN over NYR or PIT just to keep it from seeming more lopsided.

other notables:
12. Rangers
13. GKs
18. Devils
23. Islanders
29. Habs
31. Senators


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USA Hockey  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 11:06 am : link
released the images of the 2022 Olympic and paralympic jersey. No idea why they continually feel the need to mess with this. the '80 unis were perfection. The below jerseys are not.

I am so bummed about the Islanders.  
truebluelarry : 11/26/2021 11:39 am : link
I had such high hopes for this season. The 13-game road trip seemed to take a lot out of the team during the second leg, they looked fatigued. Then, they get the rotten luck of a COVID outbreak as they open the new building ad have been playing a roster that is 40% AHL players. I know there's a long way to go, but they have one heck of a hole to climb out of.
RE: USA Hockey  
truebluelarry : 11/26/2021 11:41 am : link
In comment 15467438 pjcas18 said:
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released the images of the 2022 Olympic and paralympic jersey. No idea why they continually feel the need to mess with this. the '80 unis were perfection. The below jerseys are not.


Those look more like rugby shirts than hockey jerseys!
RE: RE: USA Hockey  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 12:11 pm : link
In comment 15467462 truebluelarry said:
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In comment 15467438 pjcas18 said:


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released the images of the 2022 Olympic and paralympic jersey. No idea why they continually feel the need to mess with this. the '80 unis were perfection. The below jerseys are not.




Those look more like rugby shirts than hockey jerseys!


good call. I just don't get it. Are jersey/logo sales a big money maker for USA Hockey?

I can't imagine they'd recoup more than the fee they paid the design firm who did these in sales of this design on a jersey, t-shirt, sweatshirt, etc.
PJ what is wrong with montreal this year, finalist to horrible?  
snickers : 11/26/2021 1:12 pm : link
They are not fun to watch and look horrible. You are a fan as I am, so what say you?
RE: PJ what is wrong with montreal this year, finalist to horrible?  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 1:19 pm : link
In comment 15467561 snickers said:
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They are not fun to watch and look horrible. You are a fan as I am, so what say you?


Combination of things.

First is all the players they have lost.
1. Carey Price (rehab)
2. Shea Weber (injury/career probably over)
3. Joel Edmunson (injury)
4. Philip Danault (free agent)
5. Paul Byron (injury)
6. Mike Hoffman (injury)
7. Matthew Perrault (injury)

that's 2 of their top 4 D, and 3 top 6 forwards (that's like taking away a teams's best or second best line - F's and D).

plus, they weren't as good as last year's playoffs, just caught a hot streak and some puck luck.
RE: I am so bummed about the Islanders.  
Mike in NY : 11/26/2021 1:26 pm : link
In comment 15467459 truebluelarry said:
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I had such high hopes for this season. The 13-game road trip seemed to take a lot out of the team during the second leg, they looked fatigued. Then, they get the rotten luck of a COVID outbreak as they open the new building ad have been playing a roster that is 40% AHL players. I know there's a long way to go, but they have one heck of a hole to climb out of.


As much as I like what Trotz has done, this really exposes the limits of his "system." They are incapable of scoring enough when they are outmanned defensively. You just can't rely on winning games in the NHL 2-1 or 3-2. It is like trying to win games in the NFL while scoring less than 20 points per game.
Rangers  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 1:44 pm : link
thoroughly dominated by the Bruins in the 1st, but score with 5 seconds left to tie it after 1.
Remember what the Big Whistle used to say  
Vanzetti : 11/26/2021 1:56 pm : link
In comment 15467578 pjcas18 said:
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thoroughly dominated by the Bruins in the 1st, but score with 5 seconds left to tie it after 1.


Two most important factors in winning are lucky bounces and hot goaltending
Strome  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 2:04 pm : link
has to shoot that.

RE: Remember what the Big Whistle used to say  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15467591 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 15467578 pjcas18 said:


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thoroughly dominated by the Bruins in the 1st, but score with 5 seconds left to tie it after 1.



Two most important factors in winning are lucky bounces and hot goaltending


wiser words on this topic have never been spoken.
What a  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 2:20 pm : link
save by Igor on Pasta. I think Bergeron took a little too long getting that puck over there, but great save,
Islanders just need to finish 8th  
islander1 : 11/26/2021 2:30 pm : link
and be COVID free. I'm not too worried yet.
Swayman  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 2:31 pm : link
robbed Mika to keep it tied at 2.

I like this ABC  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 3:00 pm : link
broadcast crew. especially McDonough and Ferraro. AJ is well...AJ.

and that studio crew of Levy, Messier and Chelios (plus Melrose) blows away the NBC crew (sorry Kathryn Tappen).


Kreider  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 3:13 pm : link
tries the lacrosse goal, I don't think it went it. Not sure what it was called on the ice. it is close.
Gauthier  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 3:33 pm : link
with two assists - one to Panarin and one ot Lafreniere and the Rangers take a two goal lead and likely ice the game.

great game so far.
don't mean this to be a Bruins  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 3:36 pm : link
rangers game thread, but it's the only game on right now and it's an awesome game.

just needs a fight. Hopefully Reaves and Coyle or something like that. Bruins don't really have fighters right now. Foligno? Haven't heard his name mentioned once today if he's even playing.

RE: Kreider  
kcgiants : 11/26/2021 3:37 pm : link
In comment 15467656 pjcas18 said:
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tries the lacrosse goal, I don't think it went it. Not sure what it was called on the ice. it is close.

Pretty move but the puck didn't cross the goal line.
RE: RE: Kreider  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 3:39 pm : link
In comment 15467675 kcgiants said:
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tries the lacrosse goal, I don't think it went it. Not sure what it was called on the ice. it is close.


Pretty move but the puck didn't cross the goal line.


nope hit Swayman's shoulder then off the crossbar then out
Fuckin Bruins Mcavoy  
kcgiants : 11/26/2021 3:39 pm : link
With a dirty tripping. Could of hurt the Ranger player
Yes  
kcgiants : 11/26/2021 3:41 pm : link
Empty netter. 5-2 Rangers
Rangers played their best game of the season  
dpinzow : 11/26/2021 3:42 pm : link
Impressive win in Boston
Laf and KK starting to assert themselves  
Vanzetti : 11/26/2021 3:42 pm : link
Ultimately neither one may live up to their draft position but they both will be good players.

How quickly they develop will determine how far the Rangers go this year.
Panarin  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 3:42 pm : link
just threw his glove from his bench into the Bruins bench at Marchand.

I don't think I have ever seen a player do that before.

I wonder if he gets suspended for that or any discipline.
RE: Panarin  
kcgiants : 11/26/2021 3:45 pm : link
In comment 15467685 pjcas18 said:
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just threw his glove from his bench into the Bruins bench at Marchand.

I don't think I have ever seen a player do that before.

I wonder if he gets suspended for that or any discipline.

Panarin said take that LOL
Guaranteed  
five5 : 11/26/2021 3:49 pm : link
Marchand was talking about Panarin's off ice issues...
Carolina, Florida and Tampa look like the class of the East so far  
Stu11 : 11/26/2021 3:59 pm : link
Though the Rangers have been playing real well. The Caps will always hang around and be good, same with the leafs but can you really trust them in the playoffs? Calgary is probably the surprise of the league. Nobody saw them in 1st in the West at the quarter pole. They are really skilled and can fly. The Devils are fast and when we played the Flames it was like were skating in quick sand.

Cautiously optimistic with Devs. They have really shown fight in the 3rd period. They still can struggle at times to score but with no Jack basically the whole season they've hung in there. I know he can be a dirty pos at times but Subban has actually played some of his best hockey as a Devil the past 10 games or so. At the very least if we fall out of it he has resuscitated his trade value. Underated move getting Nate Bastian back from the Kracken on waivers yesterday. He and McLeod were a nice duo on the 4th line last year. That 4th line has been a revolving door of Utica call ups and guys in the dog house this season, this should really stabilize it. Hopefully Sharengovich is out of his slump with 3 goals the past 2 games. A big issue with the Devs for years now are shootouts. We are horrific at them and it costs us that extra point almost every time.
RE: Laf and KK starting to assert themselves  
ColHowPepper : 11/26/2021 4:06 pm : link
In comment 15467684 Vanzetti said:
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...How quickly they develop will determine how far the Rangers go this year.
True, in good measure, but leaves out what strides Gauthier seems to be making under this coaching staff after being seemingly just an afterthought for most of his ~20 months with NYR. Blessed with size and speed, he was mostly a non-factor. If a light bulb has gone on, will be significant. Two Québecois teaming up, nice to see.
Julien Gauthier continues to give a giant middle finger to David Quinn  
Anakim : 11/26/2021 4:08 pm : link
Love this f'n team and I love this f'n coach
RE: Panarin  
Anakim : 11/26/2021 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15467685 pjcas18 said:
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just threw his glove from his bench into the Bruins bench at Marchand.

I don't think I have ever seen a player do that before.

I wonder if he gets suspended for that or any discipline.


Should just be a fine. It's a fucking glove. And Ratface is still such a little bitch.
RE: Guaranteed  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 4:14 pm : link
In comment 15467696 five5 said:
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Marchand was talking about Panarin's off ice issues...


Panarin barely speaks English, unless he's being coy with the media (which is possible). But assuming he's being honest how do you chirp a guy who doesn't speak your language?
Jeff Gorton  
five5 : 11/26/2021 4:17 pm : link
made a comment a couple weeks ago that he speaks pretty good English...
btw - Flames ranked #5  
ColHowPepper : 11/26/2021 4:18 pm : link
From what limited looks I've had, they've looked a damn sight stronger than #5. Maybe it's because they have mediocre stretches, yet they've put some whompings on some good teams, not including in that assessment their whompings of NYR who were playing like a crap team...maybe that had something to do with how Flames were undressing them).
RE: RE: Guaranteed  
Anakim : 11/26/2021 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15467717 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15467696 five5 said:


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Marchand was talking about Panarin's off ice issues...



Panarin barely speaks English, unless he's being coy with the media (which is possible). But assuming he's being honest how do you chirp a guy who doesn't speak your language?


He's actually fluent in English, but he's more comfortable talking through a translator. He hardly ever does his pressers in English.
when he was asked  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 4:58 pm : link
about being captain he said he didn't speak English.

This was two months ago.

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"I think I'm more effective in hockey," Panarin said. "And I'm afraid that I won't be an effective captain. I even don't speak English.


doesn't matter anyway what Marchand said (unless it was something racist to Miller or Reaves which would be handled differently), throwing equipment into the other teams bench is something I'm not sure there is an official discipline policy for, will be interesting to see how it's handled.
Subban  
pjcas18 : 11/26/2021 6:44 pm : link
booed in return to Nashville.

I don't think MTL booed him, at least not most people. he was beloved there before the trade.
RE: when he was asked  
BestFeature : 11/26/2021 6:54 pm : link
In comment 15467744 pjcas18 said:
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about being captain he said he didn't speak English.

This was two months ago.



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"I think I'm more effective in hockey," Panarin said. "And I'm afraid that I won't be an effective captain. I even don't speak English.



doesn't matter anyway what Marchand said (unless it was something racist to Miller or Reaves which would be handled differently), throwing equipment into the other teams bench is something I'm not sure there is an official discipline policy for, will be interesting to see how it's handled.


As someone who was born in Ukraine and whose parents' first language is Russian and came here in their 30s, I can credibly speak to how weird it is that the guy hasn't learned how to speak English at a passable level in all of these years and needs an interpreter in interviews (not sure if this is still the case).
...  
ColHowPepper : 11/26/2021 9:04 pm : link
may be just comfort level in front of the cameras and not wanting to come off 'illiterate', in a manner of speaking.

From what I see in the PG Q&As, it seems clear Igor understands the questions thrown at him but he continues to have his interpreters translate his responses in Russian. So, not at all farfetched for me to think Panarin, who's been in this country far longer, knew exactly what the rat was saying. I think it's cool this game got under Marchand's skin. I missed the first period+, but I guess Igor kept them close pretty much singlehandedly.
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pjcas18 : 11/27/2021 10:51 am : link
Hockey Hound
@HockeyHoundShow
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Player Safety: #NYR Artemi Panarin has been fined $5000 for Unsportsmanlike Conduct during yesterday’s game for throwing his glove at #NHLBruins Brad Marchand.

-Per @NHLPlayerSafety
Supposedly Marchand told Panarin  
Mad Mike : 11/27/2021 12:09 pm : link
"nobody in your country likes you", among other things.
lonk - ( New Window )
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pjcas18 : 11/27/2021 12:17 pm : link
Colin Stephenson
@ColinSNewsday
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Panarin confirms Marchand said something about Russia, and that's a no-no. Said he's out $5K, but he thanks the Rangers for paying him $11.6 million per year. He can afford it.
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redbeard : 11/27/2021 12:52 pm : link
In comment 15468234 pjcas18 said:
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Colin Stephenson
@ColinSNewsday
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Panarin confirms Marchand said something about Russia, and that's a no-no. Said he's out $5K, but he thanks the Rangers for paying him $11.6 million per year. He can afford it.


Perfect response…fuck ratface and his BS

Not quite up to par with Henrik spraying Crosby with the water bottle…but I generally enjoyed watching the glove catch Marchand in the chops
So the lefty glove toss  
ColHowPepper : 11/27/2021 1:01 pm : link
= Wilson hear grab and head slam to the ice?

'Player Safety' has got their backs.

Never mind the no call on Pageau
'hair' grab  
ColHowPepper : 11/27/2021 1:01 pm : link
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I'd just never seen that happen  
pjcas18 : 11/27/2021 2:09 pm : link
before and of course I hate Marchand more than most on this thread seeing how the Bruins are the Habs main rival (or one of them) and I live here in Boston and hear about Marchand and his antics all the time. I wasn't in any way defending Marchand, it doesn't matter who the player was I expected the league to come down harder.

The $5,000 fine is the maximum allowed by the CBA.

Also, I viewed this the opposite way from some of you, not Panarin getting under Marchand's skin, but the opposite, Marchand getting under Panarin's skin. I expect Marchand to behave this way. No one expects Panarin to.

Anyway, I guess this gives some unique definition to Panarin "dropping the gloves" with Marchand.

Matt Murray  
pjcas18 : 11/27/2021 2:16 pm : link
placed on waivers.

How the mighty have fallen.

May be good as a NYR backup if Allaire can fix him.

Though if I were NYR I'd be on the phone with MTL and see if I can pry Jake Allen free. Perfect backup and veteran presence for Igor, IMO. Won a SC ring (as a backup), can be a legit starter to protect from injury, and solid in the room (so they say).

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pjcas18 : 11/27/2021 2:28 pm : link
Mollie Walker
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NHL postpones #Isles games through Nov. 30, meaning their game against the #NYR tomorrow is off.
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BrettNYG10 : 11/27/2021 2:42 pm : link
In comment 15468347 pjcas18 said:
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Mollie Walker
@MollieeWalkerr
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NHL postpones #Isles games through Nov. 30, meaning their game against the #NYR tomorrow is off.


Ugh.

Not to turn this into an NYR thread, but Kinkaid deserves the call-up. I wouldn't trade for anyone yet.

I also think NYR twitter is totally overreacting to the Marchand stuff.
the Oilers look legit  
RasputinPrime : 11/27/2021 3:53 pm : link
and Draisaitl is playing out of his mind. He just got bumped up to play with McDavid and Kassian and they ended up with 11 points on the game between them.

If they stay healthy and Skinner continues to look good, they may actually have a cup run this year.

Shouldn't be a surprise with Drai and Con but I figured they'd find a way to screw it up.

Very interested to see if Broberg is ready to stick and if Skinner can hold a spot between the iron.
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